WildZoo's WWild ZZoo Part 2 - Game Thread

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Khepri said:
You said you weren’t moving off True either but look where we are. You’ve been keeping us in limbo basically by your end of day unvotes. You chainsaw defended Lawpy by going after Zenge then tried to move the wagon to him at EoD2. And I don’t think you would really believe Zenge is scum at this point just because he hasn’t been night killed.
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And Im not pushing True today either! Omg Im so scummy I changed a read!!! And even then I said to you to read previous day cause I KNEW you didnt do it the moment you said you questioned me why I switched. Yet you still didnt read that.

SO. Khepri sees that I change my read on True (I put them as townread in the last table) , and just goes to 'Yeah there is 1 mafia there' . That solving process is lazy af and doesnt make any sense. If you are Villa I am petty enough that being my legacy to yeet you for pushing me FOR SURE. V!Khepri would care more about the solve.
If you are a Wolf keep pushing in that direction looking at arguments in a vaccuum without regards for the full solve and by all mean continue pushing that way
 
Khepri said:
Too blatant. Because she’s innocent and wasn’t aware of his alignment. If she was, she would have been more careful about defending him. Especially since you were hard pushing him and I signal boosted you at the start of day.

If I think it’s Santy/True, and you think it’s Santy/PSV, well then let’s go for the one overlapping in the Venn diagram.
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Given the fact that she was *just* in a successful wolf game where she won largely due to her ability to unpair herself from her packmate, I agree with this. PSV has an extremely recent example of a game where she clearly understands how to not look like two peas in a pod with her wolf partner.

Which I leaves me with a straightforward vote. I still prefer voting you to Santy, but that won't be productive today given where everyone else sits.

Yeet Santy
 
Day 4 Nom Nom Nom Vote Tally

Khepri (1) - Santy
PSV (3) - Zenge, Clem, Khepri
Santy (2) - PSV, True

6/6
Missing: nundo

Deadline: 10pm EDT TODAY (~13 hours)

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Clem J said:
I get the impression a significant chunk of sdn plays the dont bus, do hard defend partners style that was all the rage a few years ago
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Some do. I'm not one of them.
Zenge142 said:
But you had no reason to think that, and throughout the day it became clear that you initially were playing it off like you knew how Lawpy would look as wolf/village but in reality had very little play with him. One cycle of one, very chaotic game where you could reasonably say you were trying to solve his slot.

You were just too eager to not consider wolf Lawpy.
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We had this conversation already. I didn't think he was a wolf. What do you want me to do, don a banana suit, do a jig, and sing a formal apology?
Zenge142 said:
Would it affect your thinking on this if I mentioned that PSV is probably one of the best wolves on the site right now? She’s very good. Still a noob, playing for less than a year. But I think she’s very crafty.
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...🥺
This is very sweet. Thank you.
Khepri said:
Could I have a link to a scum and town game, PSV? (Or Zenge if you know some)
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Idk why the heck Zenge picked games from months ago.
Last game, where I was village:
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And the game before that, I was a wolf:
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potentialsheltervet said:
Some do. I'm not one of them.

We had this conversation already. I didn't think he was a wolf. What do you want me to do, don a banana suit, do a jig, and sing a formal apology?

...🥺
This is very sweet. Thank you.

Idk why the heck Zenge picked games from months ago.
Last game, where I was village:
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And the game before that, I was a wolf:
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Friendship is Magic is the game I was referencing where she and the other wolf did a really great job creating believable distance without actually kicking each other into moving traffic.
 
Truenamer said:
Friendship is Magic is the game I was referencing where she and the other wolf did a really great job creating believable distance without actually kicking each other into moving traffic.
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Yeah. Although that was mostly Cray trying to pummel me when she was probably going down anyway. So it's a slightly different situation but I don't think I've ever had a wolf game where I didn't distance from my packmates?
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Yeah. Although that was mostly Cray trying to pummel me when she was probably going down anyway. So it's a slightly different situation but I don't think I've ever had a wolf game where I didn't distance from my packmates?
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You definitely bullied a poor innocent Truenamer a lot during LiteWWary T.T
 
...eh, I'd rather be misyoten than spend 20 dollars on a banana suit.
Although doing the jig is more prohibitive because I cannot dance.
 
Khepri said:
Unvote: PSV
Vote: Santy
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The issue with this is if you’re wrong on Santy, you won’t be able to yeet PSV tomorrow.

Where as if you’re wrong on PSV, you could still yeet Santy tomorrow.

The vote margins are too thin. If I’m dead, which I suspect I will be, you won’t have the votes to yeet PSV in final 4.

If you yeet Santy now It’ll be you with Clem-PSV-True tomorrow. True won’t yeet PSV. He’s too deep in the pocket. You’ll literally be unable to rally the votes to yeet PSV tomorrow. We could do it today. But not yeeting PSV today, means if it is PSV we lose.
 
I actually think Santy is much harder to yeet. I’ll do a full review of PSV if wrong, but why don’t you think it’s Truey?
 
Khepri said:
I actually think Santy is much harder to yeet. I’ll do a full review of PSV if wrong, but why don’t you think it’s Truey?
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I’ve never thought it was Truey. Nate’s case solidified that.

You doing a review of PSV post Santy flip is irrelevant. True will vote Santy. He won’t vote PSV.
 
@Truey will you work with me to do a full reeval if Santy flips green?
 
Zenge142 said:
I’ve never thought it was Truey. Nate’s case solidified that.

You doing a review of PSV post Santy flip is irrelevant. True will vote Santy. He won’t vote PSV.
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It's not like I refuse to vote PSV in all situations, I just think that both Santy and Khepri are wolfier than her in this game. I joked about being pocketed but I genuinely believe that, even given my earlier frustrations with this game, I'm being fair/clearheaded with my current reads.

Which, to reiterate, are:

Village

Zenge - Not a wolf unless you've completely upended your playstyle. Pushed the hell out of Lawpy and delivered his head, calm and reasonable progression of reads on thread, active solving. I don't know why you're still alive but I believe it's either a mistake or a too-clever-for-own-good ploy.

Clem - Vouched for by multiple other players, voting strategy makes no sense for a mostly-AFK wolf. When he's here he's been reasonable and willing to listen/adapt his reads. Don't love the passive sheeping and hope we can see more of him today and, if we miss today, tomorrow.

PSV - She did vote off-wagon from Lawpy and was village reading him, but as I've discussed previously I actually find the latter to be slightly village indicative.

Santy - I will deliver that wolf-case I promised earlier, I just haven't had any significant block of time to play yet today. But in brief, I believe that the way Santy has been playing has been perfect for keeping a village block just unsteady enough to not clearly form. He's positioned himself as the 'moral authority' or village leader of the game, and did so immediately after it started. His voting pattern, to me, feels like someone who doesn't care which person takes the bullet as long as it isn't himself or Lawpy, with the people village-reading him being village-read and protected in return. The after-the-last-minute attempt to jump onto Lawpy's vote made my eyes roll. I am very concerned that if he's the wolf and we don't vote for him today, he'll have enough clout tomorrow to seal the game.

Khepri - As stated earlier, I would actually prefer to vote Khepri today, but as I'm the only one who feels that way I'm fine with pushing my 2nd-place read. Random reads with little explanation, resisting the Lawpy yeet until the final minutes (after it mattered), unsubstantiated tunnels... I confess that I've been feeling vaguely better about her today, but I don't know if that's just her adjusting to the game and doing a better job of not being as actively against-the-village-grain in every post. Her strange reads also explain, to me, why the NKs haven't really made sense- we're clearly viewing the game differently.

Wolf
 
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Khepri said:
@Truey will you work with me to do a full reeval if Santy flips green?
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Yes, I will. The only person I don't think I could ever vote for at this point is Zenge, but I am still willing to put the work in.

It helps that tomorrow is the weekend.
 
Truenamer said:
It's not like I refuse to vote PSV in all situations, I just think that both Santy and Khepri are wolfier than her in this game. I joked about being pocketed but I genuinely believe that, even given my earlier frustrations with this game, I'm being fair/clearheaded with my current reads.

Which, to reiterate, are:

Village

Zenge - Not a wolf unless you've completely upended your playstyle. Pushed the hell out of Lawpy and delivered his head, calm and reasonable progression of reads on thread, active solving. I don't know why you're still alive but I believe it's either a mistake or a too-clever-for-own-good ploy.

Clem - Vouched for by multiple other players, voting strategy makes no sense for a mostly-AFK wolf. When he's here he's been reasonable and willing to listen/adapt his reads. Don't love the passive sheeping and hope we can see more of him today and, if we miss today, tomorrow.

PSV - She did vote off-wagon from Lawpy and was village reading him, but as I've discussed previously I actually find the latter to be slightly village indicative.

Santy - I will deliver that wolf-case I promised earlier, I just haven't had any significant block of time to play yet today. But in brief, I believe that the way Santy has been playing has been perfect for keeping a village block just unsteady enough to not clearly form. He's positioned himself as the 'moral authority' or village leader of the game, and did so immediately after it started. His voting pattern, to me, feels like someone who doesn't care which person takes the bullet as long as it isn't himself or Lawpy, with the people village-reading him being village-read and protected in return. The after-the-last-minute attempt to jump onto Lawpy's vote made my eyes roll. I am very concerned that if he's the wolf and we don't vote for him today, he'll have enough clout tomorrow to seal the game.

Khepri - As stated earlier, I would actually prefer to vote Khepri today, but as I'm the only one who feels that way I'm fine with pushing my 2nd-place read. Random reads with little explanation, resisting the Lawpy yeet until the final minutes (after it mattered), unsubstantiated tunnels... I confess that I've been feeling vaguely better about him today, but I don't know if that's just him adjusting to the game and doing a better job of not being as actively against-the-village-grain in every post. His strange reads also explain, to me, why the NKs haven't really made sense- we're clearly viewing the game differently.

Wolf
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Oh wait, @Khepri - what pronouns do you prefer? Should have asked much earlier, I've seen a mix and want to get it right.
 
Truenamer said:
It's not like I refuse to vote PSV in all situations, I just think that both Santy and Khepri are wolfier than her in this game. I joked about being pocketed but I genuinely believe that, even given my earlier frustrations with this game, I'm being fair/clearheaded with my current reads.
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Which is what I’m saying. If we vote Santy, and he flips village, then tomorrow you’d be more likely to vote Khepri than PSV. PSV would also vote Khepri and depending who got to 2 votes first, that’s essentially game over.

Where as if we voted PSV today, if we’re wrong, which I don’t think we are, then you and Khepri would be in agreement about Santy it sounds like.
 
Zenge142 said:
Which is what I’m saying. If we vote Santy, and he flips village, then tomorrow you’d be more likely to vote Khepri than PSV. PSV would also vote Khepri and depending who got to 2 votes first, that’s essentially game over.

Where as if we voted PSV today, if we’re wrong, which I don’t think we are, then you and Khepri would be in agreement about Santy it sounds like.
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This logic does not seem to take into account the fact that I think either Khepri or Santy is more likely to be the last wolf. So... I'm okay with voting for one, then the other. That does not bother me.

EDIT- But as I told Khepri, if we're wrong about Santy I'm going to be very, very careful tomorrow. I want to win. I'm not just going to vote with my buddies for the heck of it. Losing sucks.
 
Zenge142 said:
I’ve never thought it was Truey. Nate’s case solidified that.

You doing a review of PSV post Santy flip is irrelevant. True will vote Santy. He won’t vote PSV.
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Okay, going to ask you flatly because you're the only person I believe I can be fully confident about:

Am I being unreasonable about PSV? Am I giving her too much credit? I genuinely believe she would have done a much better job about distancing herself from Lawpy. I don't think this is a too-clever-by-half situation where she knew we would expect her to distance so instead she didn't distance; that's just too much circular logic for a game like this.

I need to reread Monday looking at her posts, I think.
 
Truenamer said:
Am I giving her too much credit?
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I don’t think you’re giving her enough credit. This pocket is deep fam.
Truenamer said:
I genuinely believe she would have done a much better job about distancing herself from Lawpy.
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Hindsight is 20/20. Lawpy was widely village read D1. The wagon on to him at the end of Day 2 built relatively quickly. I’d say for most of Day 2 you wouldn’t have predicted that Lawpy was going to go down. In a “Lawpy is definitely going down” world she probably would have played things differently.
 
Zenge, come on. Flattery will get you places but I still don't want to be misyoten.
I'm still waiting on a more significant effort to case me. If your reasoning is "we can vote Santy tomorrow if it isn't her!" then I'm not very happy with that. What if it is Khepri? Then we still lose, but I'll be salty about it.
 
@Zenge142 Can you please, please ISO me, or lay out a case on why you think I'm slimy (or... oily? Or sweaty?) that goes deeper than "She's a good wolf!" and "she defended Lawpy!!" Or @Santygrass, if you come back around, or @Clem J, or whoever. Really, I'd like to see a genuine analysis of my posts, tone, content, etc. Please. I'd like to see it spelled out.
That is to say, I want stronger evidence of me being scummy. If y'all seriously think you can win for village tomorrow, hmph. I'm not going to bend over for the yeet but at least I can win in spirit. But I think this game is a little more complicated than just "yeet PSV today, yeet Santy tomorrow."
 
potentialsheltervet said:
@Zenge142 Can you please, please ISO me, or lay out a case on why you think I'm slimy (or... oily? Or sweaty?) that goes deeper than "She's a good wolf!" and "she defended Lawpy!!" Or @Santygrass, if you come back around, or @Clem J, or whoever. Really, I'd like to see a genuine analysis of my posts, tone, content, etc. Please. I'd like to see it spelled out.
That is to say, I want stronger evidence of me being scummy. If y'all seriously think you can win for village tomorrow, hmph. I'm not going to bend over for the yeet but at least I can win in spirit. But I think this game is a little more complicated than just "yeet PSV today, yeet Santy tomorrow."
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Can I get your current reads list? Who do you think is wolfing?
 
(yes yes I know, it isn't Clem, blah blah blah)
I have some paranoia about Clem and Khepri rn but warming to the idea of yeeting Santy and hopefully ending the game.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
@Zenge142 Can you please, please ISO me, or lay out a case on why you think I'm slimy (or... oily? Or sweaty?) that goes deeper than "She's a good wolf!" and "she defended Lawpy!!" Or @Santygrass, if you come back around, or @Clem J, or whoever. Really, I'd like to see a genuine analysis of my posts, tone, content, etc. Please. I'd like to see it spelled out.
That is to say, I want stronger evidence of me being scummy. If y'all seriously think you can win for village tomorrow, hmph. I'm not going to bend over for the yeet but at least I can win in spirit. But I think this game is a little more complicated than just "yeet PSV today, yeet Santy tomorrow."
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Sorry, cases are for scum
 
The tldr is you fit as a lawpy partner and the game is much easier/makes more sense if you're mafia, so I want to resolve you today, and if you flip town ill reassess where I went wrong
 
Zenge142 said:
What’s your reasoning for Clem?
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...lacking. like I said, I know it doesn't make that much sense. But I'm being stubborn at here in thinking he could be scum and we've been mostly ignoring that possibility.
So... Ego? Probably
 
Clem J said:
The tldr is you fit as a lawpy partner and the game is much easier/makes more sense if you're mafia, so I want to resolve you today, and if you flip town ill reassess where I went wrong
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...well, then you've a hard road ahead.
 
potentialsheltervet said:
@Zenge142 Can you please, please ISO me, or lay out a case on why you think I'm slimy (or... oily? Or sweaty?) that goes deeper than "She's a good wolf!" and "she defended Lawpy!!" Or @Santygrass, if you come back around, or @Clem J, or whoever. Really, I'd like to see a genuine analysis of my posts, tone, content, etc. Please. I'd like to see it spelled out.
That is to say, I want stronger evidence of me being scummy. If y'all seriously think you can win for village tomorrow, hmph. I'm not going to bend over for the yeet but at least I can win in spirit. But I think this game is a little more complicated than just "yeet PSV today, yeet Santy tomorrow."
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Are you doing the same with me tho?
I see you voting me while not doing much of a case tbh
 
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