WW in the Canadian WWilds - Game Thread

[holdthemayo]

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MOOSE. I literally said that I had caught wolves before you. You are the reason why dolphin died on jboo. Stop lying or things will turn around.

How can a previously returned villager not confirm village status? Unless you convert the hunt?

The possibility of barks coming back as wolf has been talked about for days...

 

[Animal Midwife]

The possibility of barks coming back as wolf has been talked about for days...

Cette conversion rendrait inutile l'expression "villageois confirmés".

 

[holdthemayo]

Not gonna lie, I also feel uncomfortable that Mayo isn't voting today all of a sudden

I've been reluctant to jump on the Mel wagon. Not because I trust Mel, but because there appears to be absolutely no resistance to it. It feels too easy.

 

[holdthemayo]

Cette conversion rendrait inutile l'expression "villageois confirmés".

I think the point is they ceased to be confirmed once they were rezzed in a game with a wolf rezzer.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I think the point is they ceased to be confirmed once they were rezzed in a game with a wolf rezzer.

Un ressurecteur de toute affiliation supprime la confirmation. Mon point est, sur quoi est basée sa pile de "villageois confirmés"? S'il n'inclut pas Barks, il ne peut pas vous inclure et est donc vide et inexistant. Soit il y a des gens irréfutablement du village à partir des informations fournies par le modérateur, soit il y a juste des interprétations fortes du village, dans ce cas, qu'est-ce qui m'exclut?

 

[cubsrule4e]

I guess I'm confused about why wolf-Snowy would continue to distribute items to villagers if she didn't know what they did and she got no credit for doing it.

Like I cannot understand how that role benefits wolves at ALL unless she handed out a bunch of items to wolves, too. But we know she didn't do that because dead villagers claimed getting her items.

So I dunno, I guess it makes me lean Cubs a little more wolfy, because if she was forced to distribute to villagers, then I'd imagine it would be important for wolves to know what they were handing out.

It's a weird set up and I don't really know what to think about it tbh

Again, why for so long I refused to believe that could be a wolf role, unless there was a stipulation that she could only send to villagers. What is the point of the role otherwise, except to disallow me from picking the people I want + a misdirection mechanic? Otherwise mods could have just had my items be RNG'd like they are now after she died. She would have just sent all the items to wolves if she could, theres no reason to "go for village cred" when its much more useful to keep the items for the wolves, even though I tried to temper some of them to not be super useful to non-villagers in case that happened (N2 - Fern's item was a 1x bulletproof which is useless to wolves unless theres a village vig in the game, and even then the chance of it being useful is still small.)

 

[holdthemayo]

A resurrector of any affiliation removes the confirmation. My point is, what is his stack of "confirmed villagers" based on? If it does not include Barks, it cannot include you and is therefore empty and non-existent. Either there are irrefutably people from the village from the information provided by the moderator, or there are just strong interpretations of the village, in this case, what excludes me?

So it is impossible for someone to conclude that I am a villager and Barks and you aren't?

 

[holdthemayo]

So it is impossible for someone to conclude that I am a villager and Barks and you aren't?

Because to clarify. I am a villager and I don't think you and Barks both are

 

[Animal Midwife]

So it is impossible for someone to conclude that I am a villager and Barks and you aren't?

Oui, s'il y a des villageois confirmés. Non, si l'on en juge par le jeu.

Comme je l'ai déjà dit, ma pièce n'est pas lue correctement du tout si MOOSE est intouchable pour avoir poussé les deux mêmes loups que j'ai fait, après je l'ai fait, mais je suis en train d'éliminer. Soit elle ne lit pas du tout, soit elle est en train de mal peindre les événements.

 

[cubsrule4e]

@cubsrule4e why haven't you voted today?

You've been here all day and it seems like you think AM is a wolf, so what gives?

Because Ive been trying to sort out Mel. I know he's telling the truth with his timeline and his targets but I still dont get the usefulness of it and why there would be two types of village protection - but when you think about it maybe it does make sense. A typical protector role blocks kills and other negative effects, right? If Jen can only protect from kills, maybe he is the other half of that.

I am hesitant on AM because I remember you or someone mentioning something about an alpha role. I feel like AM has been so aggressive and goading maybe because she cant even be lynched right now so she doesnt care. Like if she were able to get me lynched after as much as she's put into it, she would 100% be the next target but knows it wouldnt matter, then village is wasting lynch cycles.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I've been playing this game with you and I'm seeing red flags. I'm not voting for you at this moment but you've moved out of my village pile.

What would it take for you to vote here instead of Mel?

 

[Lawpy]

I did read your mega message. I didn't see much new info. I don't like your Cubs tunneling.

Wait so do you think AM and Mel are both wolves? Sorry if i missed it somewhere

 

[Animal Midwife]

Il y va, abandonnant son interprétation de Mel pour le quatrième cycle consécutif.

 

[cubsrule4e]

@Lawper @Melchizedek Did you get the government calling about guns message? What night?

 

[PippyPony]

Because Ive been trying to sort out Mel. I know he's telling the truth with his timeline and his targets but I still dont get the usefulness of it and why there would be two types of village protection - but when you think about it maybe it does make sense. A typical protector role blocks kills and other negative effects, right? If Jen can only protect from kills, maybe he is the other half of that.

I guess I still don't see why it is more useful for someone to block all early actions on the mayor than to let those through.

And I can't comment on what kind of wolfy actions his role might block because no wolves have flipped except jboo and snowy. I haven't seen evidence of super wolfy actions, so it seems like his role is to squash villager investigation.

 

[kaydubs]

Day 8 Placeholder Tally

cubs (1) - AM
Cheezit (6) - lawp, 3m, pippy, barks, moose, jenjen
AM (1) - Wondering

8/11 votes

@Melchizedek You are winning

missing: @cubsrule4e @holdthemayo Mel

Deadline: 8pm Canada / 10pm EDT (~ 1.25 hours)

 

[Lawpy]

@Lawper @Melchizedek Did you get the government calling about guns message? What night?

I got it N7

 

[PippyPony]

@Animal Midwife do you think Mel is a wolf?

 

[PippyPony]

@Animal Midwife do you think Mel is a wolf?

And I need you to answer this in the context of your current vote, not with your feely feels.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I guess I still don't see why it is more useful for someone to block all early actions on the mayor than to let those through.

And I can't comment on what kind of wolfy actions his role might block because no wolves have flipped except jboo and snowy. I haven't seen evidence of super wolfy actions, so it seems like his role is to squash villager investigation.

I know that Jen's protection on MOOSE failed N1 because of Mel's block.. also something to consider. If it was a wolfy mechanism, wolves could basically kill who they wanted whenever they wanted, because Mel's action would block them from being protected.

 

[Animal Midwife]

And I need you to answer this in the context of your current vote, not with your feely feels.

Je comprends qu'il est devenu un œuf à ce stade, mais cela me fait mal de regarder.

 

[PippyPony]

I know that Jen's protection on MOOSE failed N1 because of Mel's block.. also something to consider. If it was a wolfy mechanism, wolves could basically kill who they wanted whenever they wanted, because Mel's action would block them from being protected.

Eeehhhhhh.

Do they know that?

 

[PippyPony]

Je comprends qu'il est devenu un œuf à ce stade, mais cela me fait mal de regarder.

That's not what I asked.

I want a w/w or w/v read on the pair of them.

 

[Animal Midwife]

That's not what I asked.

I want a w/w or w/v read on the pair of them.

Le premier, je suppose.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Eeehhhhhh.

Do they know that?

Well I guess they do now.

 

[Lawpy]

I've been reluctant to jump on the Mel wagon. Not because I trust Mel, but because there appears to be absolutely no resistance to it. It feels too easy.

So who do you think are wolves?

 

[PippyPony]

A typical protector role blocks kills and other negative effects, right?

Also, no. A traditional protector/doctor protects against kills.

Dubz & Sporty's weirdo protector interpretation "protects" against everything, like a backwards block.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Eeehhhhhh.

Do they know that?

So is it worth it enough for the flip just to find out? Im not really wanting a still possible villager dead but I dont think Im getting anywhere else with it.

 

[holdthemayo]

So who do you think are wolves?

My current reads:
I think village is me, moose, cubs, jenjen, you, and wondering
I lean village on Pippy unless she was converted

The wolves are split among the remainder

 

[cubsrule4e]

@Miranda Senft besides me and lawper, who else is on the 🙂 list?

 

[kaydubs]

Day 8 Placeholder Tally

cubs (1) - AM
Cheezit (6) - lawp, 3m, pippy, barks, moose, jenjen
AM (1) - Wondering

8/11 votes

@Melchizedek You are winning

missing: @cubsrule4e @holdthemayo Mel

Deadline: 8pm Canada / 10pm EDT (~ 45 minutes)

 

[cubsrule4e]

My current reads:
I think village is me, moose, cubs, jenjen, you, and wondering
I lean village on Pippy unless she was converted

The wolves are split among the remainder

I agree with this list, so maybe a Mel flip is worth it? I mean if hes village theres only so many options left. Gotta be 2 OG's and a convert I would guess. Are we still thinking a 3P is out there?

 

[cubsrule4e]

lynch AM to get my vote on the board. May switch to Mel still.

 

[WildZoo]

Day 8 Placeholder Tally

cubs (1) - AM
Cheezit (6) - lawp, 3m, pippy, barks, moose, jenjen
AM (2) - Wondering, cubs

9/11 votes

@Melchizedek You are winning

missing: @holdthemayo Mel

Deadline: 8pm Canada / 10pm EDT (~ 45 minutes)

 

[PippyPony]

I agree with this list, so maybe a Mel flip is worth it? I mean if hes village theres only so many options left. Gotta be 2 OG's and a convert I would guess. Are we still thinking a 3P is out there?

I hope not because that would mean we have less flexibility here than we think.

 

[cubsrule4e]

@WonderingStudent I'm gonna maybe be needing that information you promised me today pretty soon.. no?

 

[holdthemayo]

I agree with this list, so maybe a Mel flip is worth it? I mean if hes village theres only so many options left. Gotta be 2 OG's and a convert I would guess. Are we still thinking a 3P is out there?

I could see there still being a 3P. I think we learn something valuable from either a Mel or an AM vote, which seem to be the only two realistically in play tonight.

I hope not because that would mean we have less flexibility here than we think.

We've lucked out with some good night blocks so far

 

[cubsrule4e]

Maybe put 5 votes on AM, 4 on Mel and see what happens? lol

 

[Animal Midwife]

Maybe put 5 votes on AM, 4 on Mel and see what happens? lol

Ce qui se passe, c'est que vous obtenez un lynchage de vitesse demain pour, encore une fois, implorer la résistance de Mel.

 

[cubsrule4e]

My current reads:
I think village is me, moose, cubs, jenjen, you, and wondering
I lean village on Pippy unless she was converted

The wolves are split among the remainder

If I speculate barks as still village if snowy sent her an item... makes it look like

Cubs, Mayo, Moose, Jen, Wondering, Lawper, Barks
Pippy

So either way: 2 OG's here AM, Mel, 3M

 

[cubsrule4e]

What is happening is that you are getting a speed lynch tomorrow to, again, beg for Mel's resistance.

So you would not self prez?

Beg for Mel's resistance?

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm fine with it being Mel today based on the reads, but I want to see what happens if we present another option

Lynch AM

 

[Animal Midwife]

So you would not self prez?

Beg for Mel's resistance?

Oui, et je suis sur le point de prouver mon point de vue sur vous.

Tu ne bougeras pas de moi, et j'aurai poussé trois loups, alors que tu avais trop peur de bus deux fois. Préparez vos meilleurs arguments pour demain.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unlynch cubs
Lynch Mel

 

[Melchizedek]

@Lawper @Melchizedek Did you get the government calling about guns message? What night?

I didn’t get anything like that?

 

[Melchizedek]

Wtf guys I’m not a wolf. Smh.
I can’t even self-prez vote so just remember you’re kicking me while I’m down too

 

[cubsrule4e]

Oui, et je suis sur le point de prouver mon point de vue sur vous.

Tu ne bougeras pas de moi, et j'aurai poussé trois loups, alors que tu avais trop peur de bus deux fois. Préparez vos meilleurs arguments pour demain.

I wont move from you? This is the first time I placed a vote on you. And this is what Im talking about with the goading behavior... Shes basically taunting me to vote Mel.

 

[MOOSEygoosey]

Unlynch Mel
Lynch AM

I'm good with either at this point.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Note: it took 3 votes for AM to switch to Mel

 

[Lawpy]

SOMEBODY VOTECOUNT NOW