I can post a roster, pick two people who I think are village, call the rest suspicious, and then brag about my reads, too.
Nice try. If you want credit for good reads, you can't just be "suspicious of EVERYONE" and then pat yourself on the back for the ones who turn out to be wolves, but ignore your incorrect read on the majority who turned out to be not-wolves.
I don't love the idea of moving off of Allie because I think she's maybe rage quitting as a wolf, but cray has also just hit another level and maybe needs to be like, mercy lynched.
OK, motherfrakkers, I've given an opinion on everyone, and why, in detail, and gone through the thread, and tried to be informed about it, dudes.
Besides the Allie train, I want to hear you dudes offer your thoughts on more than today's top candidate.
I suspect @Lawper is PST? The PST dudes always come on "late" as the EST people see it, as lynch deadline is 7 pm for us, many people are tying up their day and finally getting to the couch around then
The list isn't long, I suspect there must be thoughts besides the silent noob & the crazy pants player, dudes.
I don't love the idea of moving off of Allie because I think she's maybe rage quitting as a wolf, but cray has also just hit another level and maybe needs to be like, mercy lynched.
Dudes, screw you guys. This is when I lose my shyte about lynches, dudes.
I feel like I'm being made fun of, dudes.
If it's annoyance factor and a lot of posting and you think I'm dumb, then lynching me is just mean and stupid, dudes. I bust my ass at this game, dudes, and not without results, dudes.
Notice I didn't get super pissed off when Dubz and Pippy both gave actual reasons they thought I was maybe wolf, dudes. I was annoyed and defending, but whatever, dudes.
And LIS, screw your stupid rule that if I have opinions on when it's dumb to lynch me and no as dumb to lynch me, that makes me a wolf, dude. I always get pissed when I get lynched over BS, dude.
I don't need a frakking mercy lynching, that's pretty patronizing dude, and I don't appreciate it.
Dudes, screw you guys. This is when I lose my shyte about lynches, dudes.
I feel like I'm being made fun of, dudes.
If it's annoyance factor and a lot of posting and you think I'm dumb, then lynching me is just mean and stupid, dudes. I bust my ass at this game, dudes, and not without results, dudes.
Notice I didn't get super pissed off when Dubz and Pippy both gave actual reasons they thought I was maybe wolf, dudes. I was annoyed and defending, but whatever, dudes.
And LIS, screw your stupid rule that if I have opinions on when it's dumb to lynch me and no as dumb to lynch me, that makes me a wolf, dude. I always get pissed when I get lynched over BS, dude.
I don't need a frakking mercy lynching, that's pretty patronizing dude, and I don't appreciate it.
I have never claimed that I don't waffle my votes. I do so frequently to prompt discussion and to adjust to new information. I am aware I have waffled multiple times this game. 2/3 (almost 4) days it has been onto wolves, so I'm feeling kinda ok about waffles right now.
I love it now, dudes. The narrow tunnel vision that because I don't make sense to dudes, I'm a wolf.
If I was a wolf, don't you think I could make more sense, dudes? Lying is not my forte and that was hardly how I got by in the game I wolfed in, anyway, dudes. I didn't even produce this much material as a wolf, dudes. If I was a wolf, dudes, I easily could have backed off sooner and not looked quiet. I'm not quiet because I'm trying to give village all I got before I die, dudes. I'm talking myself into the grave, dudes, because the fate of the wolves doesn't rest with me, nor of the village.
Seriously look at WZ, LIS, Coop, Ny, WM, Capri, Lawper, Allie, Snowy, Pip, I think I forgot someone (a lurker?) and ask yourself if I'm really the master wolf of the 2 or 3 or 4 left, that you're looking for, dudes.
And LIS, I won't say I told you, dude. But I will laugh when you're wrong, dudes, lol. I love the way the village deflates when they make a lynch that in hindsight was obviously made for stupid reasons, dudes. Like with Ceke and Stella and Lawper and Gryff in this game and prior games, dudes. Weird does not equal wolf, dudes. Do better, dudes.
I love it now, dudes. The narrow tunnel vision that because I don't make sense to dudes, I'm a wolf.
If I was a wolf, don't you think I could make more sense, dudes? Lying is not my forte and that was hardly how I got by in the game I wolfed in, anyway, dudes. I didn't even produce this much material as a wolf, dudes. If I was a wolf, dudes, I easily could have backed off sooner and not looked quiet. I'm not quiet because I'm trying to give village all I got before I die, dudes. I'm talking myself into the grave, dudes, because the fate of the wolves doesn't rest with me, nor of the village.
Seriously look at WZ, LIS, Coop, Ny, WM, Lawper, Allie, Snowy, Pip, I think I forgot someone (a lurker?) and ask yourself if I'm really the master wolf of the 2 or 3 or 4 left, that you're looking for, dudes.
And LIS, I won't say I told you, dude. But I will laugh when you're wrong, dudes, lol. I love the way the village deflates when they make a lynch that in hindsight was obviously made for stupid reasons, dudes. Like with Ceke and Stella and Lawper and Gryff in this game and prior games, dudes. Weird does not equal wolf, dudes. Do better, dudes.
Ack but I will take my answer later because I have been doing this for hours now and need to do a little of my own triaging before school actually kills me.
That's fine. Will you also laugh at yourself for YOUR wrong reads? Or will you just see the ones that are right (if any), pat yourself on the back, and conveniently forget all the wrong ones?
Because I know of at least one that you are 100% wrong about......
I love it now, dudes. The narrow tunnel vision that because I don't make sense to dudes, I'm a wolf.
If I was a wolf, don't you think I could make more sense, dudes? Lying is not my forte and that was hardly how I got by in the game I wolfed in, anyway, dudes. I didn't even produce this much material as a wolf, dudes. If I was a wolf, dudes, I easily could have backed off sooner and not looked quiet. I'm not quiet because I'm trying to give village all I got before I die, dudes. I'm talking myself into the grave, dudes, because the fate of the wolves doesn't rest with me, nor of the village.
Seriously look at WZ, LIS, Coop, Ny, WM, Capri, Lawper, Allie, Snowy, Pip, I think I forgot someone (a lurker?) and ask yourself if I'm really the master wolf of the 2 or 3 or 4 left, that you're looking for, dudes.
And LIS, I won't say I told you, dude. But I will laugh when you're wrong, dudes, lol. I love the way the village deflates when they make a lynch that in hindsight was obviously made for stupid reasons, dudes. Like with Ceke and Stella and Lawper and Gryff in this game and prior games, dudes. Weird does not equal wolf, dudes. Do better, dudes.
Again, I think you seriously need to think about other dude candidates and get them talking. I'm a distraction at this point constantly repeating myself when no dude seems to get it anyway, meanwhile others can just sit and throw potshots rather than analyze or talk about their own suspicions besides cracks about me.
Pippy, I arranged my suspicion list the way I like it, dude. There's a lot of ways to think about this, and I'm not quite sure I want to be constrained by what you said. I have performed a triage list for all of you dudes ad nauseum. For once in my frakking life I refuse to write another novel for you dudes. I'll be a pal and quote one, though.
These are in order of danger + behavior, but I still don't like the algorithm. I'll humor you.
LIS - tinfoil hat, but with his village cred, even if he's the last wolf, he could take out the village
Pippy - you seemed village, but I can't actually follow your interactions today with Allie or WM, you have a PR, you are also very dangerous
Ny - silent and deadly. Lack of on-thread interactions and a useful comment today doesn't change that.
WZ - mostly benign, but a dangerous wolf, and I haven't had good feels for.
It drops off after that.
Capri - I had her as village, but the spoiler tag was weird. You can read all her posts and interpret wolf if you want the hat.
Coop - bad feelz. Decent defense for change in gameplay, but it's IRL stuff.
WM
Lawper
Dudes, yes, it would be awesome if we knew why we had no kill nights, if there was conversion, what's with blocking, drugs, phones, but we gotta just keep at the woof hunting even if we don't figure it out.
My reads, dudes. And yes, in a spoiler box, dudes. I promise what's in there I've already likely said elsewhere, or its ma feelz on dudes I haven't had much to say about earlier. I think these are decent summaries, dudes. Dudes, this move is not for noobs. Only I because I think I am special and cuz only some dudes wanna bother with my wall texts.
Lawp - starting to concern me, dude. Dude hasn't done much with his noob "pass." Maybe seeming like a wolf that doesn't know what to say vs nooby villager dude. If dude doesn't impress us soon, he's likely a nut to crack. I don't see that dude's been especially wolfy, but I don't want to get burned. Dude's posts have been weak sauce, but I don't know what to make of that exactly.
Allie - torn a bit, dude. Overall, reading villager with the dude. Not seeing the sketch on her, maybe some dude can explain. My analyses above explain why I think village, dude. The hint of wolf I had was maybe feeling dude was inciting something with Ny and I. Not really loving that idea, but it occurred to me, dude.
WZ - fluff posting, mostly mechanics, and then dude turning to voting me. Dude, I'm an easy lynch. Dudes, always safe to say you find me sketch, get me mis-lynched, and play it off as an accident. I posted earlier where Pippy found her sketch and I agreed, and before WZ found me sketch, I indicated she was in my top 3 dudes with genny & coop. For gut feel and Pippy's points, dude. I was one of the first to say genny was a wolfy dude based on gut feel alone. I'm not sold on WZ as a wolf, but she hasn't done much to impress me yet as villager, dude. I do wonder if she's starting to lean more wolf on me since I've started kicking up dust around her, dude. That could be v vs v, but I dunno, dude. But if I was drawing attention to a wolf, dude could safely push my lynch to off me, not waste a night kill, and not have it look retaliatory, because my lynch will always look justified anyway.
LIS - after reviewing the thread, I'm highly suspicious of the dude. The problem is it feels a bit tinfoil hat. dude. Dude's always so hard for me to tell wolf from villager, still, going off of my thread review I'm very worried.
Pippy - not sure why I have dudette so strongly village. I'd have to review the thread *again* but there are several places where her as wolf just makes zero sense, so that's likely why, dudes. I don't like the dudes she's been pushing as wolf and she's changed her votes a lot and I don't always follow. That makes me suspicious but that's all that's suspicious, dudes. So inclined to think that behavior is villager as well, dudes.
WeimMama - I'm wishy washing here, mostly because I've felt wishy washy on thinking her posts were villager meh OK and feeling like some lazy wolfy dude voting from her.
SnowshoeDog143 - I feel like we haven't seen enough from Snowy, dude. I have her as village lean, partly because I like what she's been saying this game, dudes. Only thing is that I agree with her so much, dude. That happens to me with wolf dudes (because my head is so broken and I'm so sketchy that's my twisted vibration?), but it's likely because wolves can make great cases about who is villager, and this game that has been easier for me to look with an eye for trying to defend or find villagers since I'm so sketched out by most players.
Nyanko - is too bizarre for me to make anything of, dudes. The fact that other dudes even find her off, doesn't make me feel better. But if she's going down, I'm down to be on that, dude. Because dude needs to die every game just to make sure we're not missing anything. And I'm not clearing any dude based on a drug-induced vision in a sketchy move by a noob. Sorry, but no, dude.
capri1722 - strikes me as villager, dude, and some noob mistakes, but the "hiding" of Ny info and some other comments I likely quoted, I'm worried but not sold as some people are that she's wolf.
Coopah - also wondering if she's drilling down on me because of my gut feel suspicion early on, dude. Others claim dude reads village, including Pip, who I read as village. Not sure if she's tunneling me for my suspicion or if she's working with WZ to subtly take me down, dude. Besides that weird gut thing, which could be off dude, she comes off village in posts. I feel like she's been more aggressive as villager in past games, though, dude.
My gut suspects are WZ and Coop, from earlier, dude. LIS really worries me from a game strategy/thread analysis standpoint, and dude seems "razor sharp logic" lite, and heavier on his villager traits that make good wolf camo.
Worry list, dudes
Lawp is just gonna have to go, sooner rather than later, dude.
WeimMama for wishy washy, but not ready to pull the trigger, dude.
Capri seems village except for that weird thing with Ny and some other comments, dude
Ny is ny, dude
Villager lean - keep in mind ma dudes, I always worry my villager leans just have me really fooled.
Pippy
Allie
Snowy
Dudes
Hard to say where to vote when I have way earlier gut feelings, overanalysis of LIS, likely too much trust in Pippy & Allie, and not looking hard enough at at the worry list of dudes, maybe.
OK, today has changed it up a bit, as you can see if you compare my lists, dudes
I'm more worried about LIS, Pippy, than before, WZ not far behind, dudes. Coop is still up there, dudes, but a bit lower now. Ny is always there, sorry not sorry dudes. That's 4-5 dudes in my top concern circle, out of 10 with 2 wolves remaining (at least, we think), in order, and I don't think that's insane at this point, given that I'm saying they're not all equal levels of concern. I think with 2/10 wolves I'd be remiss not to have at least 4 suspects on my list, dude.
Then I have Allie, Capri, WM, Lawp, Snowy, as much lower concern dudes. If you're expecting me to say anything besides low concern and declare anyone 100% clear villager, then you'll be disappointed, dudes. 5 out of 10 dudes as low concern/villager lean, I don't think suggests I'm overly paranoid and unable to to put people into at least two piles, fear they are wolf, suspect they are villager.
That said, dudes, I would expect one of the 5 I'm leaning villager to be a wolf. Because the chances that out of 10 players, 5 that seem villager, and 2 suspected wolves, that at least one wolf has managed to get on my villager list, is quite high, dude.
Also I'm done talking about me and my reads, dudes. Not sure you'll ever understand, and you don't like my logic, dudes. I hoped the work I did going over the thread would help make things clearer, and it didn't, dudes.
So if you want to ask more questions, you can try before I crash, dudes.
But really I'd love it if others dominated the convo, dudes.
Can someone explain what was the miscommunication between Pippy and Allie earlier, please, dudes?
if she's not lynched we're just going to sit here and wonder whether the ragequit was a last ditch effort to get pity or a real thing. i know i've had ragequit moments as both a villager and a wolf before, but i'm pretty sure they've been more often as a wolf. if it's any consolation allie, i also haven't gotten anything fun except the phone the first night.
Currently? Yes. I do think you are one of the wolfiest.
I think allie and you are emerging as the most wolfy.
That is why I am voting for you now, and why I was voting for allie earlier.
And because I have allie ranked higher than you in terms of wolfiness, I will be going back to that vote if there is no chance of a tie that would take both of you out simultaneously.
Ok just got out of sheep lab. I'm still between Allieh and Cray. Not just because of the reads cray has given (and I'm not calling you stupid, sorry) I'm saying I think your logic is inconsistent which points toward wolf. You won't change your mind when given new information and that's dangerous if not wolfy. But this info on Allieh also makes me want to go for her and then lynch pip if she flips village. I feel better about pip since Dubz came forward and said the same thing happened to her.
Lol OK dudes, you gave decent reasons, wrong, but OK
I do change my opinions, that's why the reads change, dudes. You see inconsistencies, I just don't see that, dudes. But whatevs, dudes.
I had Allie as village, but I appreciated Pippy's post, dudes. I don't get what happened earlier between them dudes because it involved talk about mechanics and I don't have the whole story and I always get lost in that. Allie has moved higher on my list, but yeah, I guess Coop is right, I'm stubborn. It anything I find Pippy going for Allie less suspicious.
Lynching Pip if Allie is village sounds not bad, dudes. Anyone but me, right, dudes? lol, dudes
Dudes, I did not follow the conversion talk earlier or what Dubz and Pips were on about with that. Explanations, please, dudes?
I had the same phone again. When asked I said I would converse with cray but that was before I got on the thread and saw what cray had been up to overnight haha so I never ended up opening the conversation
I had the same phone again. When asked I said I would converse with cray but that was before I got on the thread and saw what cray had been up to overnight haha so I never ended up opening the conversation
dude so you saw all I had to say, but what about all your super secret intel?? were you avoiding me, WM? What about all my super secret intel I never told you, dude??
Finally caught up on thread though I was able to somewhat keep an updated list of thoughts throughout the day. And yes, I know some of this is fakeold news by now.
I asked the mods if i was allowed to talk about this, because last night they said I shouldn't mention it because it would make me sound crazy, but they just said I can mention it, just no copy & paste. Basically wanted to compare with what happened to @PippyPony
So last night I basically was asked if I wanted to join the dark side. However, it seemed to be more like me struggling with my inner demons rather than getting a conversion offer from someone in particular (mods reminded me of this when I asked if I could talk about it). Not so much a conversion attempt as a mechanic that would allow you to convert yourself in a way? At any rate I turned it down.
I was basically asked if I wanted to make a change to perhaps give myself a better future.
Which, considering how I feel about wolfing, I interpreted to mean it was a conversion offer
But I turned it down for a few reasons, not the least of which is that I occasionally like to bust out some village moves to help me build up lynch armor for future games. lol
These both sound less like conversion offers to me and more like versions of the drug aversion program that WeimMama mentioned a few days back. So like Pippy if she accepted would have gone to drug therapy and maybe been protected for a night. And actually WZ’s does sound like a conversion offer. Idk maybe that’s a mechanic this game, like convert or die, except without the die. Or WZ is a wolf. Y’know, either one.
actually the way it was offered to me sounds somewhat similar (although it was super clear that it would be for a drug rehab program) and then the results was just the colon cleanse/spa day/feel great but still my impulsive self stuff
so basically the offer sounded similar but the results sounded very different from the other two. there was definitely not even a hint that i shouldn't share the info.
And if you didn't.. You guys would probably still be top choices for conversions. I don't understand it though. Why unless it was chaos conversion would you not be dead if you didn't accept. And if you didn't die (which would be unfair to the wolves at this point) then I would wonder if they tried to convert pips and she declined and since she brought it up, you decided to say you declined as well even though you didn't... but thats a tinfoil hat for you.
First bolded part: that’s a thing?
Second bolded part: this was the issue I had with the theory I mentioned up top. Having convert or die without the die seems unbalanced in favor of the villagers, even disregarding the fact that we’ve already bagged two wolves.
Maybe it’s like the whisk last game—no strategic effect, just for mod giggles. But I’m also confused why no one else has claimed to have had the same drug in the past.
Seriously look at WZ, LIS, Coop, Ny, WM, Capri, Lawper, Allie, Snowy, Pip, I think I forgot someone (a lurker?) and ask yourself if I'm really the master wolf of the 2 or 3 or 4 left, that you're looking for, dudes.
Maximum two wolves left, including any current or future converts. I’m not sure of much in this game, but I am sure of that. Any more would be a far greater proportion of wolves than seen in basically any other game.
These both sound less like conversion offers to me and more like versions of the drug aversion program that WeimMama mentioned a few days back. So like Pippy if she accepted would have gone to drug therapy and maybe been protected for a night. And actually WZ’s does sound like a conversion offer. Idk maybe that’s a mechanic this game, like convert or die, except without the die. Or WZ is a wolf. Y’know, either one.
I wonder if you’re only discouraged from sharing if you say no.
Does your opinion change knowing that Allie isn’t rage quitting at the last minute, but rather midday?
To the first comment - I thought that at first but the more we discussed the less their experiences sounded like mine. Next, that’s totally possible though I don’t know why that would be.
And yes my opinion does change based on a midday rage quit —> even more wolfy to quit when there is still time to change opinions than 10 minutes before close IMO
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