WWho Goes There? - Game Thread

[cubsrule4e]

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I wish I knew more about rocky and cyndia! Just big black holes for me right now. Village feel on cyndia, and a total blank on rocky. Id feel "Safer" if i moved to sporty or dubz if i decide to move off of sunni. I guess we'll see how much sunni freaks closer to deadline and then maybe I can decide 🤣

 

[Barkley13]

In this game its much less likely a wolf has that kind of role, so if she did the investigating shes probably not a wolf.

So that mostly makes sense but not so sure about this part. I don’t think it’s a good idea to say anyone’s a wolf or villager based off of ability

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

But I don’t get how that makes genny not a wolf

Genny was the first to call cubs out. If she was doing something wolfy she'd probably be more hesitant. Cubs says he shows up in information gathering roles and she said someone did something to SAR. A wolf could have info gathering roles, but I'm leaning her village.

 

[cubsrule4e]

So that mostly makes sense but not so sure about this part. I don’t think it’s a good idea to say anyone’s a wolf or villager based off of ability

In general, wolves are less likely to have investigative roles because theyre less useful, and more likely to have action roles. Was just giving a generality, which would seem magnified in a 12 player game. I also said it doesnt clear her.

 

[Cyndia]

Forgot it’s my fave techs last day working with me before she leaves to greener pastures, so we're headed out to grab a socially distanced dinner and I'm aiming to be back online near close.

Quick list of my thoughts at the moment:

- barks is an unknown to me, not vocal enough for a clear read/posts haven’t stood out, not liking one or two things said, so putting in neutral to wolf lean
- sporty is also a bit of an unknown, another that’s lower on the radar that’s tough for me to read, more vocal than barks but didn’t like one or two posts so putting in neutral to wolf lean
- rocky was hard to read earlier, some actions seemed more village but not sure, so putting in neutral to village lean
- cubs feels village or potentially chaos if that’s still a thing that happens as a role affiliation. Thinking that because his role impacts only investigation results, it could have caused serious confusion if it hadn’t been brought to the open so quickly
- dubz I can’t really read at all so putting her in my neutral with slight wolf lean (she seems quieter than I remember, granted she’s an adult now and is probs more busy). need to go back and reread her posts carefully.
- genny I’m having conflicting thoughts, some actions seem very village, particularly with outing the cubs thing (unless cubs is chaos), some actions I’m not entirely clear on (basically I’m confused on many of the suni-genny interactions) so putting her at neutral with village lean
- mrs p not sure. Another one that’s flown under the radar and I can’t remember anything standing out about her posts aside from she probes and asks other people questions a lot, putting her in flat neutral right now as I need to go back and reread her posts in more detail
- suni has said lots of conflicting info, comes across confusing, and my gut says wolf lean. I am surprised she’s in a village list for a couple people when I feel so strongly her actions have been wolfy so idk if not knowing her meta is impacting me and that is making me doubt it a little. Keeping her in my wolf pile for now.

Having a hard time scrolling to find the tally, so if I forgot anyone just say so and tag me and I'll add my thoughts on them. As it stands I still wanna vote Suni, but I also desperately need to read through everything in more detail, as I'm sure I'm missing some subtle clues in my skims of todays posts

 

[Barkley13]

In general, wolves are less likely to have investigative roles because theyre less useful, and more likely to have action roles. Was just giving a generality, which would seem magnified in a 12 player game. I also said it doesnt clear her.

Yeah I’m just saying I don’t want to generalize when there’s recently been a wolf protector and other things like that

 

[cubsrule4e]

granted she’s an adult now

Does 5'0" qualify for adult status? 🤣

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I wish I knew more about rocky and cyndia! Just big black holes for me right now. Village feel on cyndia, and a total blank on rocky. Id feel "Safer" if i moved to sporty or dubz if i decide to move off of sunni. I guess we'll see how much sunni freaks closer to deadline and then maybe I can decide 🤣

Dubz or sporty. I'm all for familicide!!!

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I only appear in investigative results, so either genny investigated someone (SAR) or was investigated. In this game its much less likely a wolf has that kind of role, so if she did the investigating shes probably not a wolf. If she was investigated and is a wolf, it wouldnt make sense for her to come out and give results like that (which must be legit because she wouldnt have otherwise known I was going to appear in her results), then also mention my name, and then not push hard to get me lynched, if shes claiming she saw something happen to SAR. I dont think it clears her per se but feels like village play/mechanics. Sunni on the other hand is claiming a voyeur role which favors a village affiliation but theres just so much confusion around it I feel like its almost intentional misdirection or shes even more confused than I am. Im holding onto that less and less though.

You wouldn't show up in genny's result if she was investigated. She probably did the investigating. She did say that someone else was there though so I'm not sure that's an investigators role.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I can see genny investigating SAR though and I can also see dubz killing her.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I'm at work so I'm gonna be posting all over the place. Just a heads up so people don't say I'm a lurking wolf.

 

[genny]

I honestly feel so defeated. Every single game I play is a repeated nightmare because village keeps adding sus points on me when I don't deserve it simply because of my meta.

Wolves keep me until VOLO and we always lose because villagers split vote on VOLO because they don't trust me. I'd rather be voted D1 every game than deal with this.

Vote genny

Genny still has yet to explain who the wolf she saw was

This is why people give you sus points and vote for you. 😛

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I only appear in investigative results, so either genny investigated someone (SAR) or was investigated. In this game its much less likely a wolf has that kind of role, so if she did the investigating shes probably not a wolf. If she was investigated and is a wolf, it wouldnt make sense for her to come out and give results like that (which must be legit because she wouldnt have otherwise known I was going to appear in her results), then also mention my name, and then not push hard to get me lynched, if shes claiming she saw something happen to SAR. I dont think it clears her per se but feels like village play/mechanics. Sunni on the other hand is claiming a voyeur role which favors a village affiliation but theres just so much confusion around it I feel like its almost intentional misdirection or shes even more confused than I am. Im holding onto that less and less though.

There is a lot of confusion surrounding sunny's role. She should have seen who killed SAR if she was a voyeur. @Sunbodi what does your role description say exactly?

 

[cubsrule4e]

You wouldn't show up in genny's result if she was investigated. She probably did the investigating. She did say that someone else was there though so I'm not sure that's an investigators role.

Actually good point, I just reread my role description. That means genny did the investigating for sure. So again, the results are legit because if she tried making it up she wouldnt know to include me in her results. Then add in for a 12 player game theres minimal investigative roles, and more likely village sided, pushes her village for me, in addition to the things I mentioned about her previously.

 

[genny]

Does anyone have a recent tally, or do I have to make one?

 

[genny]

Actually good point, I just reread my role description. That means genny did the investigating for sure. So again, the results are legit because if she tried making it up she wouldnt know to include me in her results. Then add in for a 12 player game theres minimal investigative roles, and more likely village sided, pushes her village for me, in addition to the things I mentioned about her previously.

What do you get out of creeping in people's night results?

 

[cubsrule4e]

And to be TECHNICAL, if sunni is claiming voyeur, my role PM does not specifically state that as someone who would see me in their results.... so she have seen genny mention me in her results, then claiming voyeur and that I was included in her results as well. Who was the third person that had me in their results?

 

[cubsrule4e]

What do you get out of creeping in people's night results?

No pleasure and boredom. I think AM is punishing me for beating her in a saturday night ZOOM party game. And also for never playing her 48/12 games.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Day 2 Elementary, My Dear Yeet Tally
Suni (1) - cubs
rocky () -
Cyndia () -
cubs () -
MsP (1) - dubz
DubZ (1) - rocky
genny (1) - Sunbodi

4/9
yeet close in ~3.75 hours

most recent tally

 

[genny]

Well, that's a lackluster tally. Where is everyone?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

And to be TECHNICAL, if sunni is claiming voyeur, my role PM does not specifically state that as someone who would see me in their results.... so she have seen genny mention me in her results, then claiming voyeur and that I was included in her results as well. Who was the third person that had me in their results?

Rocky said she had you in her results. Voyeur would see you in their results too.

 

[WildZoo]

Dubz- High on my sketch list. Pointed out how small the game is, but then mistakes a mod as playing. Wouldn't she have browsed the list by then if she was commenting on how small the game was?

Why would village dubz be more likely to have memorized who was playing early on d1 than wolf dubz? Come on, this is weak as hell.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Well, that's a lackluster tally. Where is everyone?

We've been talking about you. Who did you see visit SAR?

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Why would village dubz be more likely to have memorized who was playing early on d1 than wolf dubz? Come on, this is weak as hell.

I still feel better about most people than you

 

[WildZoo]

In this game its much less likely a wolf has that kind of role

Wut

 

[cubsrule4e]

Well, that's a lackluster tally. Where is everyone?

I mean i dont see you on it 🤔

 

[genny]

I mean i dont see you on it 🤔

I've been busy.

 

[WildZoo]

In general, wolves are less likely to have investigative roles because theyre less useful, and more likely to have action roles. Was just giving a generality, which would seem magnified in a 12 player game. I also said it doesnt clear her.

Not in an AM game lol

 

[cubsrule4e]

Wut

You think in a small game wolves would be matched with village info acquiring roles in addition to kills and potential other action based PRs?

 

[genny]

You think in a small game wolves would be matched with village info acquiring roles in addition to kills and potential other action based PRs?

They might get a PR that allows them to tag along in all the night results and gets lots of info, especially if village has a bunch of info-gathering roles.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Not in an AM game lol

Youre right, I thought twice about posting that because Im not exactly the WW expert, but thanks for confirming it.

 

[WildZoo]

Forgot it’s my fave techs last day working with me before she leaves to greener pastures, so we're headed out to grab a socially distanced dinner and I'm aiming to be back online near close.

Quick list of my thoughts at the moment:

- barks is an unknown to me, not vocal enough for a clear read/posts haven’t stood out, not liking one or two things said, so putting in neutral to wolf lean
- sporty is also a bit of an unknown, another that’s lower on the radar that’s tough for me to read, more vocal than barks but didn’t like one or two posts so putting in neutral to wolf lean
- rocky was hard to read earlier, some actions seemed more village but not sure, so putting in neutral to village lean
- cubs feels village or potentially chaos if that’s still a thing that happens as a role affiliation. Thinking that because his role impacts only investigation results, it could have caused serious confusion if it hadn’t been brought to the open so quickly
- dubz I can’t really read at all so putting her in my neutral with slight wolf lean (she seems quieter than I remember, granted she’s an adult now and is probs more busy). need to go back and reread her posts carefully.
- genny I’m having conflicting thoughts, some actions seem very village, particularly with outing the cubs thing (unless cubs is chaos), some actions I’m not entirely clear on (basically I’m confused on many of the suni-genny interactions) so putting her at neutral with village lean
- mrs p not sure. Another one that’s flown under the radar and I can’t remember anything standing out about her posts aside from she probes and asks other people questions a lot, putting her in flat neutral right now as I need to go back and reread her posts in more detail
- suni has said lots of conflicting info, comes across confusing, and my gut says wolf lean. I am surprised she’s in a village list for a couple people when I feel so strongly her actions have been wolfy so idk if not knowing her meta is impacting me and that is making me doubt it a little. Keeping her in my wolf pile for now.

Having a hard time scrolling to find the tally, so if I forgot anyone just say so and tag me and I'll add my thoughts on them. As it stands I still wanna vote Suni, but I also desperately need to read through everything in more detail, as I'm sure I'm missing some subtle clues in my skims of todays posts

This is a whole lotta hedge

 

[Barkley13]

Yeet dubz

 

[WildZoo]

You think in a small game wolves would be matched with village info acquiring roles in addition to kills and potential other action based PRs?

I think it's a mistake to assume that investigative-type roles are village in a game that is centered around tracking and watching mechanics

 

[WildZoo]

See, told y'all there was a misyeeting in my future. Would be neat if people had any real reasons for it though. Alas.

But I've liked MSP's effort today. So.

unyeet MsP, yeet cyndia

 

[cubsrule4e]

I think it's a mistake to assume that investigative-type roles are village in a game that is centered around tracking and watching mechanics

What good does a tracker/watcher role do for wolves when they know who the villagers are and who did the killing when there are only 8-9 villagers? Again, I apologize for my ignorance.

 

[genny]

See, told y'all there was a misyeeting in my future. Would be neat if people had any real reasons for it though. Alas.

But I've liked MSP's effort today. So.

unyeet MsP, yeet cyndia

I saw you visit SAR.
yeet dubz

 

[WildZoo]

I saw you visit SAR.
yeet dubz

Even kaydubs' curse wasn't strong enough!

Too bad you won't get a wolf this way though. Sadly my role is gravedigger - I'll be seen visiting or targeting anyone who is killed.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Elementary, My Dear Yeet Tally
Suni (1) - cubs
rocky () -
Cyndia (1) - dubz
cubs () -
MsP () -
dubz (3) - rocky, Barks, genny
genny (1) - Suni

6/9
@WildZoo is in the lead
yeet close in ~2 hours
Missing: @Cyndia @SportPonies @Ms Procrastinator

 

[WildZoo]

For anyone paying attention, that's the real reason I posted this in my first post of the game:

I plan to not get too invested in this game because I have a feeling there is a misyeeting in my future 😉

And I'm standing by that statement. I'll laugh with AM in dead chat about people trusting mechanics over post analysis 😀

 

[WildZoo]

@genny were you tracking me, or watching SAR? because if you were watching her, then whoever else you saw interacting with her is who killed her. It's ok if you have to kill me to convince yourself of this. Will just be sad if you were tracking me. Then my death brings no info.

I will say though, I would never be the one doing kills in a game like this unless I was a ninja (which I'm obviously not) or my partner had been up for lynch. I am heavily aware of how often I get night actions - you can look back at WWarriors wolf chat, I didn't kill except to use my extra kills, because I am a frequent investigation target. So something to think about as well.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Even kaydubs' curse wasn't strong enough!

I'll be seen visiting or targeting anyone who is killed.

Doesn't that set you up?

 

[WildZoo]

What good does a tracker/watcher role do for wolves when they know who the villagers are and who did the killing when there are only 8-9 villagers? Again, I apologize for my ignorance.

It allows silly villagers to think they are village just because they have a particular ability 😉
And gives them an idea of active PRs vs passive ones, which is important for a small wolf pack.

 

[WildZoo]

Doesn't that set you up?

Why yes, yes it does

*enters role PM to submit action*
*remembers only action is to be betrayed by her role*

 

[WildZoo]

I have a whole bottle of wine now so the next two hours should be fun

 

[genny]

@genny were you tracking me, or watching SAR? because if you were watching her, then whoever else you saw interacting with her is who killed her. It's ok if you have to kill me to convince yourself of this. Will just be sad if you were tracking me. Then my death brings no info.

I will say though, I would never be the one doing kills in a game like this unless I was a ninja (which I'm obviously not) or my partner had been up for lynch. I am heavily aware of how often I get night actions - you can look back at WWarriors wolf chat, I didn't kill except to use my extra kills, because I am a frequent investigation target. So something to think about as well.

oh this is hilarious. dubz, you're going to love this. my role is stalker. i picked you to stalk because you usually live for a long time, and i could only stalk one person this game. after you're dead, i don't stalk anymore. so if you don't get lynched, i should see you visit tonight's NK too.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

I saw you visit SAR.
yeet dubz

So you, barks, and sunny all have tracking/watching PRs plus there's an investigator? That seems kinda like a lot in such a small game.

 

[genny]

unvote dubz
vote suni

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

Okay. So the best thing to do is yeet dubz. If she's what she says she is then genny is clear. If not then we have a wolf.

 

[Ms Procrastinator]

unvote dubz
vote suni

Why?