WWildzoo Family Reunion - Game Thread

[Karabiner13]

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Day 2

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The wolves felt good. They had found one of their own who preferred the villagers to following the family business. Despite some commotions heard, they felt this was a day they could relax and enjoy the sunlight. Some still felt the need to stay indoors, napping safe in their beds. Others started to get the feeling that they were hanging with the wrong crowd and maybe the family business wasn't for them. Overall though, spirits were high and everyone looked forward to continuing to find those pesky villagers.

One family member decided they had had enough with talking with people. PM'ing was for suckers anyways. Too much manipulation, too much behind the scenes madness, and it just seems to take away from where the game should really be played - on thread, in the open. So, they shut down ALL pm's for the night.

ALL pm's are closed for the night cycle. You may not pm during N3
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On the elevator in Munich, an Asian guy turns to no one and says, "I wish I had your height, my whole life!" To which no one replied, "At least you fit in the bed!".They all had a good laugh and he said "You seem like a fun guy/gal". And then no one died.

No one has died

It is now Night 3. Please vote for your night kill victim. Deadline is 10pm EST.

Family Members:
1. @Mad Jack
2. @allieh8607
3. @Animal Midwife
4. @dolphin106258
5. @SARdoghandler
6. @SportPonies
9. @johnnaboo
10. @SnowshoeDog143
11. @finnickthedog
12. @Caiter92
13. @PippyPony
14. @genny
15. @kcoughli
16. @Stagg737
17. @sheltermed
18. @Crayola227
19. @Glammyre
20. @Skimble

Dead:
Skiski - Kaydubs, vanilla wolf
Weim - STL, ninja​

 

[Karabiner13]

N3 I Can't Hear You Kill Tally

allie (1) - shelter
shelter (3) - sporty, jboo, cray

4/18

Deadline 10pm est (~12.5 hours)

 

[Stagg737]

I forgot to add “for Weim” to my explanation when AM asked me.

So if it was basically a throw-away vote, any reason you didn't switch to Cait (*triggers Pippy) or Sporty when they were out in the lead? Or was it not a throw away?

 

[Skimble]

I went to a neighborhood party last night and got very hydrated. In that time you guys added 8 pages to the thread! I may need a summary.

Yesterday I got a tin foil hat. It said I could put it on and ask a question. I asked how many non-wolves were in the game, and I was told three.

 

[kaydubs]

For now Kill Kaydubz, because she's my other perma-salt vote.

I don't care that she's not playing or that her character is already dead. I'm not caught up and it feels sooooo good to actually write this.

***
Aw, fish
***

 

[genny]

So if it was basically a throw-away vote, any reason you didn't switch to Cait (*triggers Pippy) or Sporty when they were out in the lead? Or was it not a throw away?

Because I didn’t think voting Caiter or Sporty or SAR would get a villager. I stuck with my convictions. Any reason you’re all up in my business after I voted to kill a villager?

 

[genny]

I went to a neighborhood party last night and got very hydrated. In that time you guys added 8 pages to the thread! I may need a summary.

Yesterday I got a tin foil hat. It said I could put it on and ask a question. I asked how many non-wolves were in the game, and I was told three.

Was that number for the beginning or the end of the lynch cycle? Or not specified?

 

[Skimble]

Was that number for the beginning or the end of the lynch cycle? Or not specified?

Not specified. I asked yesterday during the day (night cycle), prior to the death of a villager and just got the answer this morning.

 

[PippyPony]

Cait (*triggers Pippy)

Stop that.

Yesterday I got a tin foil hat.

Lmao

I'm interested in your reads after your catch up 🙂

 

[Animal Midwife]

Some still felt the need to stay indoors, napping safe in their beds. Others started to get the feeling that they were hanging with the wrong crowd and maybe the family business wasn't for them.

Okay, but people saw this right?

 

[PippyPony]

Okay, but people saw this right?

Well now I did 😛

 

[PippyPony]

One family member decided they had had enough with talking with people. PM'ing was for suckers anyways. Too much manipulation, too much behind the scenes madness, and it just seems to take away from where the game should really be played - on thread, in the open. So, they shut down ALL pm's for the night.​

idk about this wolf though, guys. Too much manipulation? Not in my wolf pack

 

[Animal Midwife]

Night 1 Mayor Tally
MJ (3) - Sporty, MJ, SAR
Ski (1) - finn
Pippy (2) - Pippy, kc
jboo (1) - jboo
AM (6) - AM, shelter, Skim, dolphin, Weim, Glam
Sporty () -
finn (3) - Snowy, Cait, Ski
Stagg (2) - Cray, Stagg
Snowy (1) - genny
Cray (1) - allie

20/20

Night 2 Kill Tally
MJ () -
SAR (2) - snowy, jboo
Weim (7) - genny, sar, caiter, sporty, mj, pippy, cray
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (5) - Skim, finn, kcough, allie, weim
Glam () -
Caiter (2) - dolphin, glam
am () -
kaydubz (1) - stagg
jboo (1) - am

19/19

 

[PippyPony]

I think I want to hear more from glam, skim, and stagg today

I also didn't like the timing of how MJ jumped on the thread last night. I know he was on the Weim vote, but he loves to ride the bus.

Also think it would be worth looking at SportySpice since she got so snappy around that lynch.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm going to

Kill Snowy

for now since she never moved to the Weim vote when things were close

 

[PippyPony]

Kill glam

For now

 

[Stagg737]

***
Aw, fish
***

You and Sporty have my salty heart forever.

Because I didn’t think voting Caiter or Sporty or SAR would get a villager. I stuck with my convictions. Any reason you’re all up in my business after I voted to kill a villager?

I asked because I wanted to know if you could articulate reasons not to vote Sporty and Caiter other than feelz. I'm only asking them because I wanted clarification and the wording of your responses is bothering me.

Stop that.

No.

But really, I'll try.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I asked because I wanted to know if you could articulate reasons not to vote Sporty and Caiter other than feelz. I'm only asking them because I wanted clarification and the wording of your responses is bothering me.

What do you think about the positioning of genny's vote on Weim's wagon?

 

[SARdoghandler]

Also need to go back and re-read what led to people voting for Weim. @genny , @SARdoghandler , @Animal Midwife , can you either point me to your reasoning or give me a brief recap?

Lol people keep asking for my reasoning and it is ****. Exactly how this came about is halfway through yesterday I realized I'd skimmed everything and needed to re read it better and maybe make myself a spreadsheet. During my re-read, Weim's mayor vote stood out to me. I don't know if I can articulate why, whether it was timing or tone or what but it set off my warning bells big time. I tend to have a good track record of picking out one bad guy on D1 from nothing but obscure feels so I went with it.

I wish I had better or more explainable reasons, I really do. Hahah

 

[genny]

I asked because I wanted to know if you could articulate reasons not to vote Sporty and Caiter other than feelz. I'm only asking them because I wanted clarification and the wording of your responses is bothering me.

This whole game is feelz.

 

[genny]

Kill dolphin

 

[Stagg737]

What do you think about the positioning of genny's vote on Weim's wagon?

Meh. Less interested in the positioning itself than the timing. Which is why I asked for reasons from the 3 people I previously tagged.

ETA: What do you think about the part of the write-up you posted?

This whole game is feelz.

Fair, was just curious if there were reasons behind those feelz. Do you get why some of your wording would raise an eyebrow for me?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Meh. Less interested in the positioning itself than the timing. Which is why I asked for reasons from the 3 people I previously tagged.

Why are you less interested in the positioning?

 

[Animal Midwife]

ETA: What do you think about the part of the write-up you posted?

What do you mean?

 

[Mad Jack]

I think I want to hear more from glam, skim, and stagg today

I also didn't like the timing of how MJ jumped on the thread last night. I know he was on the Weim vote, but he loves to ride the bus.

Also think it would be worth looking at SportySpice since she got so snappy around that lynch.

I literally broke the tie to keep someone I know to be a wolf alive, contributing to an early villager kill. If that's suspicious you are an idiot

 

[Animal Midwife]

I literally broke the tie to keep someone I know to be a wolf alive, contributing to an early villager kill. If that's suspicious you are an idiot

Actually, you made the tie. Also, what are your current thoughts?

 

[finnickthedog]

I've had feels on AM since the beginning of the game. Often I ignore these bc I am so often wrong about AM and reading her is kind of a wash for me. So I tend to lean on other people's reading of AM. But when I was reading back through the last couple pages I see a lot of people calling her out for odd behavior. I really didn't like her late swap to jboo. So I'm tempted to vote there.

I wasn't thrilled about dolphin still sitting on the Caiter kill despite weak reasons to kill Caiter and a strong push from me that we should not. Just not sure why she was that attached to her kill vote. I hear that she wasn't feeling the SAR or Sporty lynch but like... she could have also swapped to someone else. The leading candidates are not the only options. Her sitting on the vote would have made more sense to me if she strongly felt SP and/or SAR were wolves and therefore wanted to save them by staying on another leading candidate, but the impression I got from her post was that she just largely didn't have strong opinions on them. Could also potentially vote here.

Glam also sat on the vote but didn't appear to be around which leads me to...

but will be around to see where pressure on @SportPonies leads

You said you'd be around but then it appears you weren't. Just wondering what happened.

Contingency kill shelter

I have a theory. Let’s see if coherent jboo agrees with me in the morning or thinks I’m ****oo

What does coherent jboo think?

PM'ing was for suckers anyways. Too much manipulation, too much behind the scenes madness, and it just seems to take away from where the game should really be played - on thread, in the open.

This person can come hang out with me.

 

[Stagg737]

Why are you less interested in the positioning?

Because it's irrelevant to the question I was trying to get answered. I have my own opinions on what being first on the lynch would mean and her explanation wouldn't change those thoughts.

 

[PippyPony]

I literally broke the tie to keep someone I know to be a wolf alive, contributing to an early villager kill. If that's suspicious you are an idiot

Aw, you sure know how to flatter a girl 😍

Are you saying no one is allowed to question you now that you've killed a villager?

 

[Mad Jack]

Aw, you sure know how to flatter a girl 😍

Are you saying no one is allowed to question you now that you've killed a villager?

I'm saying if I were a villager what I did made no sense, I easily could have buried sporty who was gunning for an easy bandwagon killin'

 

[PippyPony]

I'm saying if I were a villager what I did made no sense, I easily could have buried sporty who was gunning for an easy bandwagon killin'

Except that now you can say this, which is literally the reason why bad guys kill their friends.

And I don't think you could have buried Sporty as easily as you're claiming -- if she asked you to vouch for her and she didn't end up getting killed, you'd be completely screwed afterwards

 

[dolphin106258]

I honestly had no read on Weim at all. But I felt my feels for Caiter were valid. And I don’t know why me not believing Finn makes me more questionable bc we can read each other wrong all the time. I will put my kill vote on people I believe actually have a decent argument over ppl with basically...no argument. Also I hear the voting for other people but no one else was jumping out at me, and like I said (everyone can disagree) I didn’t like the reveal of everything so early and basing it on a past game where you ALMOST got lynched but lived very long.

I’m willing to just table my Caiter feels and look at other folks bc I try not to tunnel. Stagg I want to put in my bad guy territory for something that I can’t put my finger on. Also did I see AM point out a hint to conversion? Are you trying to make me doubt all my feels on you?

 

[finnickthedog]

I didn’t like the reveal of everything so early and basing it on a past game where you ALMOST got lynched but lived very long.

She was basing it on a game where she almost got lynched the first day cycle and then was killed the first night bc she was forced into a role reveal to save herself. You weren't in that game.

Your feels are your feels and you're entitled to them but I'm not clear what there was against Caiter other than she shared her night results earlier than some of you would have liked. I can see why you would maybe find that a little sketchy. I don't find it sketchy but I can see why maybe you would. What I don't see is why you find that so sketchy that you would ignore someone coming on the thread and giving her a hard vouch. Which is what I was doing. It does not make sense to me that you thought your argument was so solid that someone with a hard vouch should die the first night over people who had nothing either way.

 

[PippyPony]

I honestly had no read on Weim at all. But I felt my feels for Caiter were valid. And I don’t know why me not believing Finn makes me more questionable bc we can read each other wrong all the time. I will put my kill vote on people I believe actually have a decent argument over ppl with basically...no argument.

You don't think role claims and vouches amount to any kind of argument?

I didn’t like the reveal of everything so early and basing it on a past game where you ALMOST got lynched but lived very long.

What?

 

[PippyPony]

@dolphin106258 what are your updated feels on Cray and AM, btw?

 

[allieh8607]

kill dolphin for now

 

[dolphin106258]

She was basing it on a game where she almost got lynched the first day cycle and then was killed the first night bc she was forced into a role reveal to save herself. You weren't in that game.

Your feels are your feels and you're entitled to them but I'm not clear what there was against Caiter other than she shared her night results earlier than some of you would have liked. I can see why you would maybe find that a little sketchy. I don't find it sketchy but I can see why maybe you would. What I don't see is why you find that so sketchy that you would ignore someone coming on the thread and giving her a hard vouch. Which is what I was doing. It does not make sense to me that you thought your argument was so solid that someone with a hard vouch should die the first night over people who had nothing either way.

You said it was based on how she was in PMs? Is that a hard vouch?

 

[Stagg737]

What do you mean?

Exactly what I said. Care to answer?

 

[dolphin106258]

You don't think role claims and vouches amount to any kind of argument?


What?

At the beginning in the rules it says the role names probs won’t help so why would that matter.

And I thought Caiter mentioned earlier that she was referring to the dogs game where she was referencing. Maybe I’m not remembering or something.

 

[PippyPony]

Actually, you made the tie.

I mean, to be fair, you almost made another one. If the tie itself is what you're focusing on here, I'm not sure you have a great argument.

 

[dolphin106258]

@dolphin106258 what are your updated feels on Cray and AM, btw?

I am feeling good guy on good guy still. Currently.

 

[Stagg737]

I am feeling good guy on good guy still. Currently.

Why do you think they're good guys?

 

[dolphin106258]

It does not, and I know that. And I know two votes doesn’t. But after getting almost lynched because I liked a post a few days ago, I would like to nip that in the bud before it starts 😉

Wasn’t this based on the dogs game? Or am I just misremembering that hard....😵

 

[genny]

Do you get why some of your wording would raise an eyebrow for me?

Nope.

 

[finnickthedog]

You said it was based on how she was in PMs? Is that a hard vouch?

It was based on stuff we discussed in PMs, that's not quite the same as basing it solely on "how she was" although certainly that's a factor. I was quite persistent about feeling she shouldn't be lynched and it later came out that she shared her role with me, that I had enough information to feel strongly about not killing her.

So yes, that was a pretty hard vouch as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure why this was apparently so unclear to you.

Wasn’t this based on the dogs game? Or am I just misremembering that hard....😵

No. The dogs game ended a week ago and she mentioned a game a few days ago. She was referring to the Speed game.

 

[allieh8607]

At the beginning in the rules it says the role names probs won’t help so why would that matter.

And I thought Caiter mentioned earlier that she was referring to the dogs game where she was referencing. Maybe I’m not remembering or something.

Caiter said she later was forced to reveal her role too to Finn, I thought. So it wasn't just her role name.

 

[dolphin106258]

Why do you think they're good guys?

I don’t have a concrete reason except the tone of the argument, but AM slightly makes me doubt these feels sometimes. So if she could stop doing that it’d be great lol.

 

[PippyPony]

Wasn’t this based on the dogs game? Or am I just misremembering that hard....😵

She played my speed game in between dogs and this game, and got lynched D1 for a joke post

No fun allowed in WW, this is srs bsns

 

[dolphin106258]

It was based on stuff we discussed in PMs, that's not quite the same as basing it solely on "how she was" although certainly that's a factor. I was quite persistent about feeling she shouldn't be lynched and it later came out that she shared her role with me, that I had enough information to feel strongly about not killing her.

So yes, that was a pretty hard vouch as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure why this was apparently so unclear to you.




No. The dogs game ended a week ago and she mentioned a game a few days ago. She was referring to the Speed game.

Wow that speed game is messing with me. I completely forgot about that one, that’s my bad completely. But I still don’t see that as a hard vouch, maybe I’m coming off that noob game with more understanding of terms but I thought hard vouches were based on mod confirmed things?

But like I said I can let the Caiter thing go since I am clearly misremembering games.

 

[dolphin106258]

She played my speed game in between dogs and this game, and got lynched D1 for a joke post

No fun allowed in WW, this is srs bsns

I feel like an idiot. Lol I’m so upset with myself for forgetting that game.