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No more oversharing!
I really appreciate this. I didn't quite get what you were saying but I get it now.Oh I think my wolf and village may be backwards, because I totally meant that as complimentary. I meant that I can’t read you worth beans when you’re a bad guy because I wrongly underestimate you. But when you’re a good guy, I find you are very insightful. And this game, I have have been finding that you’ve been insightful, so I am more inclined to trust you. You could obviously be completely pulling the wool over my eyes, but I am more inclined to believe we’re on the same team this game.
when I say *expect* to be connected, I should say I would think they would, but of course they might not be with a PM mix up event having happenedI hardly think I've had amazing insights with my AM mayor paranoia tunnel, but maybe I am at least making more coherent points.
But I'm coming out of that tunnel as others have managed to catch my attention more.
Yes, it will seem retaliatory, but Sporty's turn to me is suspicious, and while I was tabling SP in light of the WM day and the MJ vouch, of course it comes up that relying on MJ's vouch only works if they're both wolves.
I can't claim to read MJ, but he is sketch, and not just because he is sketch. Maybe all he really has to contribute is the vouch (whether hard or soft) which seems to be from PM.
It looks like there has been a change in the PMs, I'm wondering if some of the people that so far were partners now have new partners, that would obviously affect the strength of vouches. The concern being that I would expect linked PM roles like mason or lovers or whatever, to still be connected, and everyone coming out with whether or not they are still connected to a PM partner, could be problematic for the pack.
Basically, if that didn't make sense, and why I haven't pressed, is that I don't know that the SP/MJ or Finn/Caiter or Allie/WM communications and vouches were because of neighbours or some other random-ish match up, or if they were because of linked roles that allow one to more confidently vouch for a partner. The thing being that if you present your PM vouch as more related to ability vs just luck of the PM draw, then one is more likely to draw villager lynch vs conversion.
In any case, putting players like SP, MJ, Finn, Caiter, Allie, AM up on the back burner because of PM vouching and mayor is problematic, and we all know that. Of these people though, SP & MJ seem the most suspicious. Finn seems wolfy to me, but besides the fact I thought the Caiter case was weak and the soft vouch, that was all Caiter had going for her really.
Wasn't Allie on WM's death vote in a spot that VCA suggests Allie is OK? I know Allie soft vouched WM initially (I think) and later she came out with info that made it seem like WM was buddy buddying her. That said, how solid is all that? Just reconsidering.
AM on the back burner.
So, any thoughts on these players?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out what all the PM'ing and vouching means and how this mash up on PM's is going to affect how we feel about this, at the same time, I REALLY REALLY am not trying to fish and I DO NOT want people to say too much about their PM partners and who they are if they think that's going to be used for villager agenda.
Also, I like semicolons and wine after a long day of treating an endless stream of kennel cough and ear infections.
But why
yes, because when I said everyone I was clearly meaning to exaggerate, because I thought the lie that it was every single person out of the 20 we started with, was totally gonna fly and get me somewhere with a villagery agenda, I can't believe I didn't get that one past the wolf pack in my master plan
good catch
I meant all the people who did get behind it, and there were a lot
Also, WTF is an illusion remover? Sorta suggests an illusion giver mechanic of sorts, don't you think?
The only thing I can think of with this is:Dead is @SportPonies who was Trilt, a wolf with the ability to remove any illusions from a player each day
......and this is what drives my FOMO, and what I hate about taking breaks from WW. Like, inside jokes are cool. Not explaining and including your friends who missed out in on the jokes, not cool. I don't care that inside jokes are less cool when people explain them.
Plus, most inside jokes go over my head even when I'm there when they happen.
It looks like there has been a change in the PMs, I'm wondering if some of the people that so far were partners now have new partners, that would obviously affect the strength of vouches. The concern being that I would expect linked PM roles like mason or lovers or whatever, to still be connected, and everyone coming out with whether or not they are still connected to a PM partner, could be problematic for the pack.
Basically, if that didn't make sense, and why I haven't pressed, is that I don't know that the SP/MJ or Finn/Caiter or Allie/WM communications and vouches were because of neighbours or some other random-ish match up, or if they were because of linked roles that allow one to more confidently vouch for a partner. The thing being that if you present your PM vouch as more related to ability vs just luck of the PM draw, then one is more likely to draw villager lynch vs conversion.
In any case, putting players like SP, MJ, Finn, Caiter, Allie, AM up on the back burner because of PM vouching and mayor is problematic, and we all know that. Of these people though, SP & MJ seem the most suspicious. Finn seems wolfy to me, but besides the fact I thought the Caiter case was weak and the soft vouch, that was all Caiter had going for her really.
Wasn't Allie on WM's death vote in a spot that VCA suggests Allie is OK? I know Allie soft vouched WM initially (I think) and later she came out with info that made it seem like WM was buddy buddying her. That said, how solid is all that? Just reconsidering.
AM on the back burner.
So, any thoughts on these players?
Basically, I'm trying to figure out what all the PM'ing and vouching means and how this mash up on PM's is going to affect how we feel about this, at the same time, I REALLY REALLY am not trying to fish and I DO NOT want people to say too much about their PM partners and who they are if they think that's going to be used for villager agenda.
A beloved grandmanatee was doing all she could to try and be sketch free. It seemed no matter what she did though, she was suspicious. Normally she was without lynch armor as she had somehow acquired the mutation. But not yesterday. The only problem with that is she still looked suspicious. So suspicious that someone snuck up on her during the day and shot her
Dead is @Glammyre who was Jboo, a wolf who could avoid 1 night kill
Some say hilariousalso the jboo ability was hilarious, hats off mods
Too real guys
You can blame me for any and all ability/role matchups love you jbooze!!Some say hilarious
Others say too damn accurate
The only thing I can think of with this is:
SP and I trusted each other and just like with WZ I would never kill her early game because I like having her aroundJFC I just realized that SP is dead, so whatever I was saying about her being sketch and voting me, makes me look super bad as in guilty or just stupid.
It also makes me look at MJ more.
Also, WTF is an illusion remover? Sorta suggests an illusion giver mechanic of sorts, don't you think?
Oh I guess this would make sense -- wasn't weimSince the topic of the "remove illusion" ability has been discussed by a few people today, I took that to mean that to mean they made unseerable/untrackable villagers seerable or trackable.
I assumed it was the mods since there were a bunch of people without PM partners. But if it was a player, maybe whoever cancelled PMs earlier had this ability too, or something? Or if the cancelled PMs person is wolfy (sounded like maybe the case based on write up), then maybe the person creating the PMs is villagey.Thoughts on this pm buddy scramble though? I'm not sure how I feel about it, assuming it was related to an ability (which I assumed from the write up).
Untrackable I believe.Oh I guess this would make sense -- wasn't weim unseerable or something?
That was just my interpretation of the write up. I can't decide if I think it's a village or wolf ability though.I assumed it was the mods since there were a bunch of people without PM partners. But if it was a player, maybe whoever cancelled PMs earlier had this ability too, or something? Or if the cancelled PMs person is wolfy (sounded like maybe the case based on write up), then maybe the person creating the PMs is villagey.
****@ziggyandjazzy and @Crayola227 thank god -- I was sitting here thinking "it's 2019 and nobody remembers the things I find funny anymore "
I literally hear "illusion, Michael" in my head every single time someone says illusion lol
Ok I swear to god it has absolutely nothing to do with an inside joke and I would have said so if that was the case because I also hate when inside jokes go over my head. It's something related to the game and it'd be really "cool" if it was just dropped.
I've already stated on the thread that it's related to item use, I was hoping people would have picked up on that and dropped it. I was trying to be subtle about it because the results of the item are not immediately apparent. You get the item during the day (usually overnight) (the hat- either WZ's or kara's, which you decide) and have to post publicly about it on the thread the next day. The day I had it, I posted this:Temple Grandin came and spoke at my school last week, and my close friend was interviewed about it afterwards in the local paper. Here's the beginning of her quote:
After the talk, student Cambrey C. Knapp, 23, of Redding, California, who is in her second year at the school, said she thought Ms. Grandin's lecture was "really cool."
We've been giving her **** for it for daaaaays
I get that it was related to the game. That part was pretty obvious. The reason why I was asking for clarification is that it seemed like there was something game-related that we were supposed to take away from it, and I didn't get the underlying reference, so I didn't/still don't get the significance of the info drop. Make sense?
Also -- it's something that was put onto the thread in a very obvious way, so I'm not sure why we can't talk about it at all.
Lol I 100% missed that whole thing. Was it @SARdoghandler who said she needs things to be about as subtle as an avalanche? I feel that lol. Sorry I'm an idiotI've already stated on the thread that it's related to item use, I was hoping people would have picked up on that and dropped it. I was trying to be subtle about it
Yep, that is exactly what I thought.There was no info drop, idk what info you're referring to unless maybe you thought jboo was vouching for SAR?
What makes you so sure that it's a seering item?Lol I 100% missed that whole thing. Was it @SARdoghandler who said she needs things to be about as subtle as an avalanche? I feel that lol. Sorry I'm an idiot
I'm not sure why the need for all the subtlety, though -- if it is an item, and you already had it, I don't see the issue with talking about it
Yep, that is exactly what I thought.
I couldn't figure out why tf she was doing it right before kill close when SAR wasn't even on the board
Based on genny's description of the 2 metaphorical hats, I am assuming it's better to choose Kara's hat/the info is more likely to be true
Kinda weird to have a public seering item in the first place, though
...because both of you posted a player name and an affiliation claim? I'm not sure what else you would call thatWhat makes you so sure that it's a seering item?
But like...you said you're required to post the results. I guess I just still don't see the point of trying to hide something that by design is not supposed to be hidden, but maybe that's just meThe cover is blown now. I feel like those who had the item could have kept it kind of secret if they posted about it subtly. Oh well! I'm sure jboo will fill us in if she learned anything important.
No. You're not required to post the results....because both of you posted a player name and an affiliation claim? I'm not sure what else you would call that
Whether or not it's accurate is another thing entirely
But like...you said you're required to post the results. I guess I just still don't see the point of trying to hide something that by design is not supposed to be hidden, but maybe that's just me
Ah, gotcha. Ok, that also makes a lot more sense about why you didn't want people talking about it. SorryNo. You're not required to post the results.
Here is the item description: To use this, you must post a hat eating comment about a player of your choosing on thread during this night cycle and specify which hat you are using.
This sounds nice and safeChoose wisely for there are no second chances and there may be consequences.
Lol I 100% missed that whole thing. Was it @SARdoghandler who said she needs things to be about as subtle as an avalanche? I feel that lol. Sorry I'm an idiot
I really was just thinking about who i felt I could defend my decision on.