WWildzoo Family Reunion - Game Thread

[Caiter92]

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Guys, I'm the one person you know couldn't have lynched someone last night. I was not trying to imply that cleared me completely. But you actually know ~something~ about me . Can we please use this lynch to actually get some new information?

 

[allieh8607]

While I did bring up what was in the write ups about being mayor maybe having someone to do with ties this game, I was mostly focused on the idea that being mayor is an overall liability for a wolf. Yes, it's a liability for villagers too. It's a liability all around. I am defining liability as = it ends up with a player being killed, mostly for being a mayor, or a villager mayor that screws the wolf pack vs a point of scrutiny. Sooooooo yeah, still side-eyeing people that put themselves up for the role.

If people don't give a damn about this and want it anyway, OK. It's feeling like people are arguing this isn't even a thing and there are no examples of what I just freaking said.

Forget it.

kill AM

I'm not going to be able to deal with this play style this game, and the other times I felt AM was like this and annoying me this much, she was a villager.

I'll admit I kind of checked out of the earlier conversations about the mayoral election. But do you really think AM would have wanted to be mayor as a villager, knowing she'd probably be looked into the first night? I guess unless she was an unseerable villager, but the roles hadn't gone out yet when she self nominated. AM freaks out enough as a villager by itself, I just can't really see her tacking on the mayor "responsibilities" with it. Unless she's going for the shock factor 😱

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unkill glam

kill SAR

Because I feel better about her lynch then caiter or sporty

*edited to change lynch to kill because confusion

Why's that?

 

[genny]

While I did bring up what was in the write ups about being mayor maybe having someone to do with ties this game, I was mostly focused on the idea that being mayor is an overall liability for a wolf. Yes, it's a liability for villagers too. It's a liability all around. I am defining liability as = it ends up with a player being killed, mostly for being a mayor, or a villager mayor that screws the wolf pack vs a point of scrutiny. Sooooooo yeah, still side-eyeing people that put themselves up for the role.

If people don't give a damn about this and want it anyway, OK. It's feeling like people are arguing this isn't even a thing and there are no examples of what I just freaking said.

Forget it.

kill AM

I'm not going to be able to deal with this play style this game, and the other times I felt AM was like this and annoying me this much, she was a villager.

Cray, are you really going to vote to kill the mayor first? There's no one sketchier than the mayor, whom I hope was checked out last night? You're really that convinced?

 

[Crayola227]

Unkill glam

kill SAR

Because I feel better about her lynch then caiter or sporty

*edited to change lynch to kill because confusion

but why

 

[Crayola227]

Cray, are you really going to vote to kill the mayor first? There's no one sketchier than the mayor, whom I hope was checked out last night? You're really that convinced?

OK, I actually kind of forgot she was mayor

I guess someone really did piss in my wheaties today

unkill AM

 

[Crayola227]

Cray, are you really going to vote to kill the mayor first? There's no one sketchier than the mayor, whom I hope was checked out last night? You're really that convinced?

although I will say it's some WIFOM to the max, you can see how being mayor can get a player a big fat pass in the game

she'll be a prime conversion target later, I'm sure

 

[SARdoghandler]

I actually find it really, really funny how everyone on my lynch/kill/whatever "feels better about my lynch than the others" when the reason I'm being lynched is because AM got on me in the least aggro way possible

 

[KCgophervet]

OK, I actually kind of forgot she was mayor

I guess someone really did piss in my wheaties today

unkill AM

Your entire post before voting for her was about the mayor... how did you forget she was mayor??

 

[Crayola227]

Unkill glam

kill SAR

Because I feel better about her lynch then caiter or sporty

*edited to change lynch to kill because confusion

this is giving me feels.... I dunno, maybe because it feels like sheeping and with not very fleshed-out reasoning.... I mean, why do you feel better about SAR's kill and less so about Sporty (Caiter I can see that the case for/against has been pretty well outlined unless someone has some other take on the sitch that hasn't been covered)

 

[PippyPony]

although I will say it's some WIFOM to the max, you can see how being mayor can get a player a big fat pass in the game

But like, they don't. Or at least, they shouldn't.

she'll be a prime conversion target later, I'm sure

And no offense to AM, but she would not be at the top of my list during convert hunting, mayor role or no

 

[KCgophervet]

Kill SAR

You know exactly why.

Alright I went back to this. Is this in reference to a previous game or an inside joke? Because I don't know why and I want to...

 

[Crayola227]

Your entire post before voting for her was about the mayor... how did you forget she was mayor??

because my memory is awesome... I started playing right when I woke up... I got crappy sleep and haven't had coffee yet like a *******.... truth is I'm feeling antsy to get caught up on thread and drop a vote so I can be sure I don't miss deadline while I make a cup of espresso, which is fairly time consuming

 

[PippyPony]

Tally?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Alright I went back to this. Is this in reference to a previous game or an inside joke? Because I don't know why and I want to...

A previous game.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Why's that?

I found her initial post wolfy (like trying to say something so she's on the board for having talked)

omgomgomg

I'm actually on the tree

I have arrived

You can never get rid of me now

And half of her comments are about how confused she is. And she waited a long time today to drop a vote. Not great feels.. but some feels.

Wat.

Actually that's a lie. I have a theory. But I don't think the conclusions you have drawn are correct.

Actually this comment makes me feel a bit better. What do you think of it AM?

Overall, I think she posts similar to WZ (less but same style) and therefore she is probably the opposite affiliation then I think she is (I always get wz wrong).. so don't go off my thoughts on her 😛

Cray, are you really going to vote to kill the mayor first? There's no one sketchier than the mayor, whom I hope was checked out last night? You're really that convinced?

Yeahhhh I wouldn't kill the mayor first day either. Usually they are looked into in the first couple days. So unless she is unseerable, not worth it. Plus see what powers she has and whether she uses them for wolfiness or villagerness

 

[Crayola227]

But like, they don't. Or at least, they shouldn't.


And no offense to AM, but she would not be at the top of my list during convert hunting, mayor role or no

I've lost to convert AM at lylo twice (or was it original and then convert?), so yeah, she's not the top in that each time I read her correctly, but I did read her too late, and before I could raise the alarm bells effectively

 

[KCgophervet]

A previous game.

Fair enough, but like this goes back to all of allie's previous posts about how it reads as maybe something more to those of us not in on the joke, especially with you possibly having phenomenal mayoral powers now.

 

[Caiter92]

Night 2 It's the Family Business Kill Vote Tally

MJ (1) - pippy,
SAR (4) - AM, allie, weim, snowy
Weim (2) - genny, sar
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (4) - Skim, finn, caiter, kcough
Glam () -
Caiter (5) - sporty, MJ, jboo, dolphin, glam
am (1) - cray

Caiter is in the lead!

18/19 votes

Missing: @Stagg737

Deadline: 10pm EST (~1.5 hrs)

Tally?

 

[KCgophervet]

Hey guys, so overthinking mechanics here, but did we elect a mayor or an alpha wolf? Because technically mayor is of the village which in this game is bad. Did we vote to convert someone D/N1??? Wouldn't that be a crazy mechanic?

Note I don't actually think this is the most likely scenario, more poking fun at all the reverse terminology messing with my brain this game.

 

[KCgophervet]

You sticking with that MJ vote there @PippyPony ?

 

[SARdoghandler]

Hey guys, so overthinking mechanics here, but did we elect a mayor or an alpha wolf? Because technically mayor is of the village which in this game is bad. Did we vote to convert someone D/N1??? Wouldn't that be a crazy mechanic?

Jesus

 

[Animal Midwife]

Night 2 It's the Family Business Kill Vote Tally

MJ (1) - pippy,
SAR (4) - AM, allie, weim, snowy
Weim (2) - genny, sar
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (4) - Skim, finn, caiter, kcough
Glam () -
Caiter (5) - sporty, MJ, jboo, dolphin, glam
am () -

Caiter is in the lead!

17/19 votes

Missing: Stagg, Cray

Deadline: 10pm EST (~1 hr)

 

[Crayola227]

I don't like the SAR, Caiter, and SP wagons, although I appreciate that Snowy expounded on SAR, and I can't say her points aren't valid about SAR

Can someone explain like I'm 5, what was it about SP's earlier logic that gave them feels?

I haven't learned to read SP, and generally have to rely on others to clue me in villagery SP, and I have some PTSD about SP votes based on thin reasoning

 

[KCgophervet]

Jesus

Sorry but also welcome to my tinfoils.

 

[PippyPony]

Hey guys, so overthinking mechanics here, but did we elect a mayor or an alpha wolf? Because technically mayor is of the village which in this game is bad. Did we vote to convert someone D/N1??? Wouldn't that be a crazy mechanic?

Note I don't actually think this is the most likely scenario, more poking fun at all the reverse terminology messing with my brain this game.

KC don't start fake(?) convert hunting this early, please -- I already have enough problems reading you

 

[PippyPony]

You sticking with that MJ vote there @PippyPony ?

For right now? Yep, happily hanging out here, thanks for asking

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't know. I'm just getting stressed out.

Unlynch SAR
Lynch Weim

 

[finnickthedog]

she is probably trying to subtley defend one of these peeps.

Yeah, I'm trying to defend Caiter. Well spotted, I guess?

I can PM with her and I pretty strongly feel that she's a villager wolf so I'd rather my strong read doesn't get killed the first day night.

 

[PippyPony]

If I'm reading the thread correctly, I don't think we should be killing Caiter, so I will move if it gets down to that

 

[KCgophervet]

I don't like the SAR, Caiter, and SP wagons, although I appreciate that Snowy expounded on SAR, and I can't say her points aren't valid about SAR

Can someone explain like I'm 5, what was it about SP's earlier logic that gave them feels?

I haven't learned to read SP, and generally have to rely on others to clue me in villagery SP, and I have some PTSD about SP votes based on thin reasoning

The whole "Caiter because she's the most likely person to want Ski dead" logic. Didn't like it, didn't agree with it, felt like maybe a villager trying to set someone up for a fall. Just didn't feel... real? More fabricated logic than actual logic.

That being said a wolf could also just use weird logic to justify a vote so it could mean nothing, like almost everything in this lovely game.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

this is giving me feels.... I dunno, maybe because it feels like sheeping and with not very fleshed-out reasoning.... I mean, why do you feel better about SAR's kill and less so about Sporty (Caiter I can see that the case for/against has been pretty well outlined unless someone has some other take on the sitch that hasn't been covered)

Caiter because I'm going with she is trying to overcompensate by doing the opposite then ignoring everyone for getting mad at a tiny thing she did last game.

Sporty because I haven't found anything she's said sketchy. She asked to clarify the was ski a wolf or a village, which seems like something a wolf would say rather then the informed minority that knew her affiliation.

And I see where she's coming from with the caiter vote. Like if caiter wasn't a strong wolf player and she knew ski could read her well, it would be smart to kill her off. But a lot of people who love wolfing like to try and fool their closest friends so it wouldn't be a good argument.. but if she's not confident in wolfing it is an alright vote (Im saying this but don't know whether caiter likes to wolf or not)

*wolfing in this sense refers to wolfing

 

[PippyPony]

I don't know. I'm just getting stressed out.

Unlynch SAR
Lynch Weim

Why?

 

[KCgophervet]

KC don't start fake(?) convert hunting this early, please -- I already have enough problems reading you

Just sharing what my brain realized when it was trying to reverse all the "village/wolf" statements to understand what people actually meant and realizing that mayor could also be a reverse term. I did note in the post that I wasn't actually suggesting we go there, but had to share the thought when it occurred to me.

 

[Caiter92]

I don't like the SAR, Caiter, and SP wagons, although I appreciate that Snowy expounded on SAR, and I can't say her points aren't valid about SAR

Can someone explain like I'm 5, what was it about SP's earlier logic that gave them feels?

I haven't learned to read SP, and generally have to rely on others to clue me in villagery SP, and I have some PTSD about SP votes based on thin reasoning

The whole "Caiter because she's the most likely person to want Ski dead" logic. Didn't like it, didn't agree with it, felt like maybe a villager trying to set someone up for a fall. Just didn't feel... real? More fabricated logic than actual logic.

That being said a wolf could also just use weird logic to justify a vote so it could mean nothing, like almost everything in this lovely game.

This. Would have given zero ****s if she had voted for me. But her saying this like it's sound logic rubs me the wrong way. And her to keep insisting it's the reason gives me feels.

 

[Crayola227]

The whole "Caiter because she's the most likely person to want Ski dead" logic. Didn't like it, didn't agree with it, felt like maybe a villager trying to set someone up for a fall. Just didn't feel... real? More fabricated logic than actual logic.

That being said a wolf could also just use weird logic to justify a vote so it could mean nothing, like almost everything in this lovely game.

OK yeah, thanks, this was really helpful (not being sarcastic just in case that didn't come across)

 

[SARdoghandler]

Okay, in the interest of people thinking Caiter should probably not be lynched. I don't like the idea of lynching Sporty at this time. And I am definitely a good guy...

4th option for the invariable waffles?

 

[KCgophervet]

For right now? Yep, happily hanging out here, thanks for asking

Any thoughts on the leaders?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why?

I just don't understand her reasoning for voting there.

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

Hey guys, so overthinking mechanics here, but did we elect a mayor or an alpha wolf? Because technically mayor is of the village which in this game is bad. Did we vote to convert someone D/N1??? Wouldn't that be a crazy mechanic?

Note I don't actually think this is the most likely scenario, more poking fun at all the reverse terminology messing with my brain this game.

noooo don't get cray back on the AM train 😛

Yeah, I'm trying to defend Caiter. Well spotted, I guess?

I can PM with her and I pretty strongly feel that she's a villager wolf so I'd rather my strong read doesn't get killed the first day night.

ah makes sense. Couldn't figure out whether village buddies, pm buddies, or just you can read her well in these games.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unkill SAR
Kill Weim

in case the former isn't accepted

 

[Crayola227]

Caiter because I'm going with she is trying to overcompensate by doing the opposite then ignoring everyone for getting mad at a tiny thing she did last game.

Sporty because I haven't found anything she's said sketchy. She asked to clarify the was ski a wolf or a village, which seems like something a wolf would say rather then the informed minority that knew her affiliation.

And I see where she's coming from with the caiter vote. Like if caiter wasn't a strong wolf player and she knew ski could read her well, it would be smart to kill her off. But a lot of people who love wolfing like to try and fool their closest friends so it wouldn't be a good argument.. but if she's not confident in wolfing it is an alright vote (Im saying this but don't know whether caiter likes to wolf or not)

*wolfing in this sense refers to wolfing

I will point out that exactly what has happened in this thread yet again supports the principle that NKA (typically night kill analysis, here it would be day lynch analysis) is typically a completely useless exercise in WIFOM reasoning

In fact, I'm side eyeing anyone trying too hard to use a villager target to make a case for a player being villager

we're all smarter than this, I think

 

[Caiter92]

I will point out that exactly what has happened in this thread yet again supports the principle that NKA (typically night kill analysis, here it would be day lynch analysis) is typically a completely useless exercise in WIFOM reasoning

In fact, I'm side eyeing anyone trying too hard to use a villager target to make a case for a player being villager

we're all smarter than this, I think

Did you mean village red or green here? cause i can't tell.

 

[allieh8607]

Okay, in the interest of people thinking Caiter should probably not be lynched. I don't like the idea of lynching Sporty at this time. And I am definitely a good guy...

4th option for the invariable waffles?

I could waffle to weim for very minor reasons, cray is also kind of giving me some feels

 

[PippyPony]

Any thoughts on the leaders?

I think SAR feels a little too flippant/sassy to be her village self, and I think Sporty feels a little different than the last game and dropped a lazy vote. I have concerns about others, which is why I haven't voted for any of the leaders in the first place

 

[PippyPony]

I just don't understand her reasoning for voting there.

No but like, why are you stressed?

 

[SARdoghandler]

I think SAR feels a little to flippant/sassy to be her village self

Lol sorry not sorry 😉

Tbf though, I think people should listen to this. Pippy can read me well. She knows I'm not a bad-guy. I can't power-bad-guy worth a damn and I especially can't be a vocal bad-guy

 

[Animal Midwife]

No but like, why are you stressed?

I forgot I hate being mayor.

 

[PippyPony]

Tbf though, I think people should listen to this. Pippy can read me well. She knows I'm not a bad-guy. I can't power-bad-guy worth a damn and I especially can't be a vocal bad-guy

Yeah I'm not ever going to advise that people listen to me though, sorry lol

 

[Crayola227]

Did you mean village red or green here? cause i can't tell.

Typically it would read as

"anyone trying too hard to use a wolf target to make a case for a player being a wolf"