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Animal Midwife said:
Did I imply that? What do you think of the other people on the board?
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I already said what I thought of caiter and sporty as kill options, cray has seemed herself (that is - A LOT so much that it’s almost sketch but it’s just her being true to form for now), glam has been quiet which I can’t be mad at yet and MJ I just have no feels either way.
 
dolphin106258 said:
okay so reading this whole AM/cray partly Pippy interaction I have some questions.

@Crayola227 are you more bothered by AM being wrong about prevet vs lounge games, or the whole obtuse in responses bit you mentioned earlier?

Because for me personally I just voted there bc I feel like I can read AM if MJ won I would’ve been lost in that department. And at first i literally read what a mayor is supposed to do and thought hmm that’s AM. Not that there weren’t other good candidates, I just didn’t get to come back on and read posts before WZ closed the vote 😛

But anyways basically what I’m getting at is I am reading this whole interaction like you seemed to be upset about the mayor thing and self voting in general, and then AM’s responses (to me seemed normal) bothered you more. And then she misremembered things about past games which I know is unlike AM and honestly that’s the only part out of the whole exchange that made me have pause. Is that sorta right summary wise?
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You've got it. I'll forgive anyone for being wrong about a past game (how could I not?) but on the tails of what I felt was obtuseness, AND the fact that frankly all of it feels outside her meta (wanting to be mayor, being seemingly unconcerned about it, not catching onto my points about strategy (that mayor is a target on your back) AND being wrong *this* wrong about past games...) is what irked me.

I agree that I can read AM better than MJ, and being able to read a player was guiding my vote earlier to Stagg. Ultimately I just felt like maybe giving it to someone besides AM. I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least one villager on her vote.
 
PippyPony said:
But I've missed you, boo :kiss:


You ever talk to your friends about what breed you'd be?

I put up a long fight with my friends IRL about how I'm actually not a chihuahua (or pom, or peke)...but then I recently just gave in because you know what? Longhaired chis are freaking adorable, and I love them.

Edit to add cuteness:
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*****
I saw this dog show and I love this dog
******
 
WeimMama said:
I already said what I thought of caiter and sporty as kill options, cray has seemed herself (that is - A LOT so much that it’s almost sketch but it’s just her being true to form for now), glam has been quiet which I can’t be mad at yet and MJ I just have no feels either way.
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Anything specific about SAR bothering you?
 
Crayola227 said:
You've got it. I'll forgive anyone for being wrong about a past game (how could I not?) but on the tails of what I felt was obtuseness, AND the fact that frankly all of it feels outside her meta (wanting to be mayor, being seemingly unconcerned about it, not catching onto my points about strategy (that mayor is a target on your back) AND being wrong *this* wrong about past games...) is what irked me.

I agree that I can read AM better than MJ, and being able to read a player was guiding my vote earlier to Stagg. Ultimately I just felt like maybe giving it to someone besides AM. I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least one villager on her vote.
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Okay, I can definitely see the train of thought with everything you’ve said, the more I read it the more it felt like good guy on good guy lol.
 
Animal Midwife said:
Not necessarily. Just putting a vote on the tally to stir up activity.
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I get this, but given how things have gone for the pack in past games, I'm gonna bust my butt to get people to back things up with some reasoning.

Because villagers have to vote too, so they're not necessarily afraid to give out votes with *zero* reasoning that "stir things up." Enough of that, it's lazy for wolves to act accordingly.

Only villagers really benefit from votes dropped like that, especially when multiple people do that.

Also, we're somewhat past "RVS" (random voting stage, what some people call the first vote to kill someone in WW, since there's usually little gameplay to actually base a vote on) in that we have some data now.

I'm going to be mean and say that partly due to AM, and also other players that do this, we've sorta gotten used to "wolves" putting out these mystery pressure votes as part of some secret psychological test gambit move. I'm tired of the trend.
 
allieh8607 said:
just saying-- I don't think it's unreasonable for people to have seen your lynch vote, what you wrote with it, and think that you were trying to imply something.
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I mean, if I have a strong reason to vote for someone, I'm not going to hide it from people.
 
Night 2 It's the Family Business Kill Vote Tally

MJ (2) - pippy, KC
SAR (3) - AM, allie, weim
Weim (1) - genny
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (3) - Skim, finn, caiter
Glam (1) - Snowy
Caiter (4) - sporty, MJ, jboo, dolphin

Caiter is in the lead!

15/19 votes

Missing: sar, stagg, cray, glam

Deadline: 10pm EST (~2 hrs)

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For whatever it's worth, I am getting village wolf vibes from Caiter so I'm pretty uncomfortable with that vote. I do distinctly remember playing or modding games where she has been a wolf and where she has been a villager. So far, she is coming across as village wolf.

How many times will I type the wrong word in this weird mixed up game? Stay tuned to find out.
 
After all that's been said on thread here I do think the Sporty calling out Caiter as more likely to kill Ski as a weird move. Normally when people are friendly in or outside WW games you tend to keep them around longer than maybe you should, or at least long enough to make you get nervous and then get rid of them via NK (lynch, whatever). I just don't see a D/N1 kill being orchestrated by a friendly face as being a "more likely" occurrence.

So on that note

Unkill MJ
Kill Sportyspice
 
SportPonies said:
It’s WIFOM

Just because she’d be pissed doesn’t mean that you wouldn’t do it if you were worried she’d figure you out
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I'm pretty sure I've played like one game with her ever aside from a speed game. That wouldn't even have crossed my mind. You harping on this so much is giving me feels.
 
Caiter92 said:
I literally about got lynched three days ago because I liked a post I thought was funny. People thought I was sketch last game for actually trying to post ideas and theories. Can you not see how I would prefer not to have votes pile on if I can help it?
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Kay, I get the overdefensiveness (aren't you a newer player?), but you're starting to get into that zone that seems less nooby overdefensiveness and more villagery.

If you want to maintain that you were just being defensive because you're gunshy of being killed, that's fine, but I think you need to let it go that being jailed last night is NAI. (not affiliation indicative)
 
finnickthedog said:
Caiter's results don't mean anything for reasons already expounded upon by others. That said, I think it's a reach to suggest that her sharing them is sketchy behavior. To me, it doesn't say a thing about affiliation either way. I'm not even sure it's that unusual tbh.
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I'm going to disagree with this. It seemed odd to share when she only had 2 votes on her and was in a multi-way tie, and felt a little like over-sharing/over-clearing to me.

kill caiter

but will be around to see where pressure on @SportPonies leads
 
Crayola227 said:
Kay, I get the overdefensiveness (aren't you a newer player?), but you're starting to get into that zone that seems less nooby overdefensiveness and more villagery.

If you want to maintain that you were just being defensive because you're gunshy of being killed, that's fine, but I think you need to let it go that being jailed last night is NAI. (not affiliation indicative)
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I did?
 
Glammyre said:
I'm going to disagree with this. It seemed odd to share when she only had 2 votes on her and was in a multi-way tie, and felt a little like over-sharing/over-clearing to me.

kill caiter

but will be around to see where pressure on @SportPonies leads
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I think there was more pressure before you broke the tie away from Sporty.
 
Glammyre said:
I'm going to disagree with this. It seemed odd to share when she only had 2 votes on her and was in a multi-way tie, and felt a little like over-sharing/over-clearing to me.
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Meh, difference of opinion. As far as I'm concerned it's not unusual for people to random share their results. Sometimes even when they have one or no votes on them. I don't think it says much about whoever it is because I've seen both wolves and villagers do it.

And in regards to caiter specifically, she's one of the few people I'm getting village vibes from so I'm not thrilled about the idea of lynching her over something I consider not indicative affiliation.
 
Animal Midwife said:
I mean, if I have a strong reason to vote for someone, I'm not going to hide it from people.
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but that's what I'm saying- the way you worded it definitely could come across as a strong reason to vote for her. Ex: a lucky N1 tracking result where you could assume she was probably notified that she was tracked. I guess I'd hope to see you also pushing more people to vote for her, which has kind of been the opposite today so that makes me think that you don't have a strong reason. But you've placed votes before with absolutely no reason before and wanted people to follow.
 
finnickthedog said:
Meh, difference of opinion. As far as I'm concerned it's not unusual for people to random share their results. Sometimes even when they have one or no votes on them. I don't think it says much about whoever it is because I've seen both wolves and villagers do it.

And in regards to caiter specifically, she's one of the few people I'm getting village vibes from so I'm not thrilled about the idea of lynching her over something I consider not indicative affiliation.
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I get this bc I’m all about going with your opinion and gut and everything. But for you personally you feel like the reasoning for Sporty or SAR is more affliction indicative based? (hopefully that makes sense)

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Crayola227 said:
Kay, I get the overdefensiveness (aren't you a newer player?), but you're starting to get into that zone that seems less nooby overdefensiveness and more villagery.

If you want to maintain that you were just being defensive because you're gunshy of being killed, that's fine, but I think you need to let it go that being jailed last night is NAI. (not affiliation indicative)
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Caiter is not a newer player.

And idk, I can kind of see her point about getting lynched for stupid stuff on D1 last game.
 
finnickthedog said:
Random thoughts on the people leading currently while I put off my studying...

Caiter's results don't mean anything for reasons already expounded upon by others. That said, I think it's a reach to suggest that her sharing them is sketchy behavior. To me, it doesn't say a thing about affiliation either way. I'm not even sure it's that unusual tbh.

I'm not clear on why people are following the SAR vote when no actual reason for it was given.

In regards to Sporty, my vote was indeed random but since I asked her a question I was hoping to hear from her before I considered moving my vote around.
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I don't remember what finn said earlier that pippy quoted that made me feel like voting there, but this post above reads to me like actual decent villager hunting, so I'm off of voting on finn.

I was starting to get villagery vibes on Caiter, but ultimately I don't make anything of her offering up night results. It just didn't feel wolfy to me, although I can see why it might seem that way to others. It was more feeling like she was digging in, and maybe that's "why me fry me" (the more you defend the more they kill principle)

The point Finn makes on SAR - after losing that one game where SP was promoted as a daily kill target by wolves FOR NO REASON I will never again sheep vote anyone that NO ONE comes out with an actual reason for voting for.

Also, I would highly caution anyone from sheeping AM. I do it too, but if you do, I seriously hope it's because you feel confident about your read of her.
 
PippyPony said:
Caiter is not a newer player.

And idk, I can kind of see her point about getting lynched for stupid stuff on D1 last game.
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Last time I ignored it and that back fired. I tried to not let that happen this time and that also backfired. So I just don't win lol
 
I'm not very thrilled with either the Sporty or the Caiter votes. I think both reasons those wagons started are NAI and likely they are both good guys. However, if it comes down to me vs. one of them, then I'd likely go for Caiter. Not for any real supported reasons, just that her wagon reason sounds mildly more bad-guy-y than Sporty's wagon reason. IDK.

Kill Weim

Feels mostly from D1. I'd also be totally down for an Allie lynch. Though I've been struggling with myself that both of these may be retaliatory in nature - but I've got no clue how to separate myself from that so it is what it is.

Edit for me still screwing up v/w
 
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dolphin106258 said:
I get this bc I’m all about going with your opinion and gut and everything. But for you personally you feel like the reasoning for Sporty or SAR is more affliction indicative based? (hopefully that makes sense)

Edit: forgot a question mark
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I'm still not sure what the reason is for SAR so I can't comment on that.

For Sporty... eh, I think her logic is a little weird but I'm not sure that it's necessarily villagery or just bad logic.

Caiter is the only one up for kill that I actually feel is a wolf though which is why I'm most uncomfortable with that. The others are very much in my neutral/not-a-clue pile right now.
 
Caiter92 said:
Last time I ignored it and that back fired. I tried to not let that happen this time and that also backfired. So I just don't win lol
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Lol this was me for so long I feel it on a deep level
 
johnnaboo said:
Will catch up once I’m done volunteering at this spay/neuter clinic but I DID MY FIRST NEUTER TODAY! (no quotes pls)
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Definitely thought you were WZ at first as I feel she starts things with "will catch up once.." a lot of times 😛

Caiter92 said:
Before this bandwagons even more, I was jailed/blocked last night.

D1: You found your door was locked. You couldn't leave your room, but at least you felt like no one could get to you either.
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Yeah this is a weird defense. But given your story on how you got lynched off a "like' last game, it makes sense you'd be super defensive now.

PippyPony said:
But I've missed you, boo :kiss:


You ever talk to your friends about what breed you'd be?

I put up a long fight with my friends IRL about how I'm actually not a chihuahua (or pom, or peke)...but then I recently just gave in because you know what? Longhaired chis are freaking adorable, and I love them.

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Hey man, chihuahua's live the good life :banana: They get away with everything and are pampered as princesses. They could murder someone and their owners would be like "oh yeah fifi is just like that. Isn't she sooo cuuute"

finnickthedog said:
Random thoughts on the people leading currently while I put off my studying...

Caiter's results don't mean anything for reasons already expounded upon by others. That said, I think it's a reach to suggest that her sharing them is sketchy behavior. To me, it doesn't say a thing about affiliation either way. I'm not even sure it's that unusual tbh.

I'm not clear on why people are following the SAR vote when no actual reason for it was given.

In regards to Sporty, my vote was indeed random but since I asked her a question I was hoping to hear from her before I considered moving my vote around.
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If finn is a villager.. she is probably trying to subtley defend one of these peeps. Guess is caiter from later comment. Just to keep in mind for me for later.
 
SARdoghandler said:
I'm not very thrilled with either the Sporty or the Caiter votes. I think both reasons those wagons started are NAI and likely they are both villagers. However, if it comes down to me vs. one of them, then I'd likely go for Caiter. Not for any real supported reasons, just that her wagon reason sounds mildly more bad-guy-y than Sporty's wagon reason. IDK.

Lynch Weim

Feels mostly from D1. I'd also be totally down for an Allie lynch. Though I've been struggling with myself that both of these may be retaliatory in nature - but I've got no clue how to separate myself from that so it is what it is.
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can we please use the right words for this game before i get even more confused lol
 
SARdoghandler said:
I'm not very thrilled with either the Sporty or the Caiter votes. I think both reasons those wagons started are NAI and likely they are both villagers. However, if it comes down to me vs. one of them, then I'd likely go for Caiter. Not for any real supported reasons, just that her wagon reason sounds mildly more bad-guy-y than Sporty's wagon reason. IDK.

Lynch Weim

Feels mostly from D1. I'd also be totally down for an Allie lynch. Though I've been struggling with myself that both of these may be retaliatory in nature - but I've got no clue how to separate myself from that so it is what it is.
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What from D1 set off your feels?
 
Animal Midwife said:
Things that would directly harm a mayor for being elected.
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While I did bring up what was in the write ups about being mayor maybe having someone to do with ties this game, I was mostly focused on the idea that being mayor is an overall liability for a wolf. Yes, it's a liability for villagers too. It's a liability all around. I am defining liability as = it ends up with a player being killed, mostly for being a mayor, or a villager mayor that screws the wolf pack vs a point of scrutiny. Sooooooo yeah, still side-eyeing people that put themselves up for the role.

If people don't give a damn about this and want it anyway, OK. It's feeling like people are arguing this isn't even a thing and there are no examples of what I just freaking said.

Forget it.

kill AM

I'm not going to be able to deal with this play style this game, and the other times I felt AM was like this and annoying me this much, she was a villager.
 
Unkill glam

kill SAR

Because I feel better about her lynch then caiter or sporty

*edited to change lynch to kill because confusion
 
Night 2 It's the Family Business Kill Vote Tally

MJ (1) - pippy,
SAR (4) - AM, allie, weim, snowy
Weim (2) - genny, sar
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (4) - Skim, finn, caiter, kcough
Glam () -
Caiter (5) - sporty, MJ, jboo, dolphin, glam
am (1) - cray

Caiter is in the lead!

18/19 votes

Missing: @Stagg737

Deadline: 10pm EST (~1.5 hrs)

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Okay it's starting to get to me, I keep having to reread everyone's posts when they say villager they mean bad and when they say wolf they mean good. Unless they forget and they actually mean the opposite (or the usual meanings of the words).

I don't know what the point of me saying this is other than if I totally misread something you say it's just because I just totally misread something you said.
 
genny said:
What from D1 set off your feels?
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Just was around, but quiet. Didn't participate in discussion that was happening when she dropped her mayor vote. Just pinged me for what I feel is normal for her.

Basically, I can't back anything up. But this is how I caught jboo last game (this = D1 feels, though at that time it was D1 voting record specifically) so sometimes my feels are on point
 
kcoughli said:
Okay it's starting to get to me, I keep having to reread everyone's posts when they say villager they mean bad and when they say wolf they mean good. Unless they forget and they actually mean the opposite (or the usual meanings of the words).

I don't know what the point of me saying this is other than if I totally misread something you say it's just because I just totally misread something you said.
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This is why I have tried to switch to good guy vs bad guy haha. However, I still manage to screw it up apparently
 
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