WWildzoo Family Reunion - Game Thread

[PippyPony]

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You're paranoid about genny???

idk, based on personal experience, genny looks pretty good covered in tinfoil

All shiny-like

 

[KCgophervet]

You're paranoid about genny???

You mean always a wolf genny? Not for any particular reason other than I know she's a good bad guy. Did she do something significant I should be remembering that should clear her?

 

[Animal Midwife]

You mean always a wolf genny? Not for any particular reason other than I know she's a good bad guy. Did she do something significant I should be remembering that should clear her?

Have you gotten a chance to look at the tallies I posted yet or genny's vote tracker?

 

[PippyPony]

You mean always a wolf genny? Not for any particular reason other than I know she's a good bad guy. Did she do something significant I should be remembering that should clear her?

*Squint* at this, though.

I can see how someone could have some paranoia about genny, but it's related to specific events in this game.

Not sure I'm buying this whole space cadet routine you've got going on over the last few days

 

[jaboo]

Current thoughts on all players:
Wolf leaning (in no particular order):
dolphin - reading nooby
finn - just liking the posts and logics
sporty - based on how the weim vote went down
caiter - reveals from weim vote
allie - posts feel "right" idk
jboo - mostly based on ability

Village leaning (in no particular order):
glam - feels based on some of her posts
AM - have a hard time reading her, feels off, weirdness on weim vote day
Snowy - more recent posts have my eyebrow going up with dem feels

Null read:
MJ - forget he's playing
cray - can never read, swings back and forth between red and green so average is ?
pippy - agree with lots of posts and thought processes BUT tingling spidey-sense saying bad guy so average to null
Skim - forget she's playing
SAR - going back and forth, too much "omg i caught a villager with nothing but random feels haha so great" had her leaning village to me but rereading the weim vote go down pushed her more wolf
Stagg - not enough info, forget he's playing
genny - had her in wolf land for a bit but lately been feeling more paranoid so idk

Not a huge fan of these reads. Largely unoriginal thoughts.

 

[PippyPony]

Going to try to get a better read on some of my null reads.

Kill MJ

Come play with us. 🙂

Didn't feel like breaking the 4 way?

 

[PippyPony]

Unkill dolphin
Kill glam

 

[Animal Midwife]

Didn't feel like breaking the 4 way?

Apparently not even though 3 of the 4 are on her village list.

 

[KCgophervet]

Have you gotten a chance to look at the tallies I posted yet or genny's vote tracker?

Saw there were tallies, didn't spend a lot of time looking at them. Genny had a vote tracker?

*Squint* at this, though.

I can see how someone could have some paranoia about genny, but it's related to specific events in this game.

Not sure I'm buying this whole space cadet routine you've got going on over the last few days

It's been last few months. Do I have to go back and reread everything to find exactly where I started leaning back the other direction on genny? Because spoiler alert, not going to, don't have strong enough feels on her to put in the effort.

Not a huge fan of these reads. Largely unoriginal thoughts.

Cool. And your reads are? Also yes people point things out that I agree with and use them in my analysis of how I'm reading people. Do you ONLY have original thoughts?

Didn't feel like breaking the 4 way?

I thought about it but I didn't want to be that person 🙄

Apparently not even though 3 of the 4 are on her village list.

Actually I debated voting glam (village read + other two votes for her were both on my wolfy leaning list) BUT MJ's popping in to vote AM and then poof again made me want to see if he'd participate a bit more with some pressure.

 

[Caiter92]

Hey guys, I’m really sorry I haven’t been around. Getting subbed out tomorrow so I can focus on my bun. Caught up with yesterday and am catching up with today now.

 

[Karabiner13]

Night 4 Kill Tally

glam (3) - dolphin, jboo, pippy
snowy (2) - am, stagg
dolphin (1) - cray
am (2) - finn, mj
skim (1) - snowy
mj (1) - kcough

no tie 😢

Missing: allieh, sar, sporty, caiter, genny, glam, skim

10/17

Deadline 10pm est (~2 hours)

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

This statement surprises me based on my first impressions of you in WW accurately calling out my role and affiliation in PM.

well, different games, different thoughts. I like some of your logic but when you post reads like this (below) and some other posts you have made it sounds like the type of posts you make as a bad guy.

Current thoughts on all players:
Wolf leaning (in no particular order):
dolphin - reading nooby
finn - just liking the posts and logics
sporty - based on how the weim vote went down
caiter - reveals from weim vote
allie - posts feel "right" idk
jboo - mostly based on ability

Village leaning (in no particular order):
glam - feels based on some of her posts
AM - have a hard time reading her, feels off, weirdness on weim vote day
Snowy - more recent posts have my eyebrow going up with dem feels

Null read:
MJ - forget he's playing
cray - can never read, swings back and forth between red and green so average is ?
pippy - agree with lots of posts and thought processes BUT tingling spidey-sense saying bad guy so average to null
Skim - forget she's playing
SAR - going back and forth, too much "omg i caught a villager with nothing but random feels haha so great" had her leaning village to me but rereading the weim vote go down pushed her more wolf
Stagg - not enough info, forget he's playing
genny - had her in wolf land for a bit but lately been feeling more paranoid so idk

 

[SnowshoeDog143]

There are sooo many people missing from voting..

 

[PippyPony]

There are sooo many people missing from voting..

@allieh8607 @SARdoghandler @SportPonies @genny @Glammyre @Skimble

I think SAR is doing her first spay this week, maybe? And I think Sporty, glam, and skim might be on rotations. Caiter has her bunny

allie and genny have like, real jobs or something

 

[Animal Midwife]

Saw there were tallies, didn't spend a lot of time looking at them. Genny had a vote tracker?

Yes. Here's both of them.

I have no idea if this will be useful, but I can't seem to fall asleep, so here's a lynch tracker:

Spoiler: Night 2

Pippy kills MJ (1)
AM kills SAR (1)
genny kills Weim (1)
shelter kills Cray (1)
allie kills SAR (2) lead
Skim kills Sporty (1)
finn kills Sporty (2) tie
Snowy kills Glam (1)
Sporty kills Caiter (1)
KC kills MJ (2) 3-way tie
MJ kills Caiter (2) 4-way tie
Caiter kills Sporty (3) lead
Weim kills SAR (3) tie
jboo kills Caiter (3) 3-way tie
dolph kills Caiter (4) lead
KC unkills MJ (1)
KC kills Sporty (4) tie
Glam kills Caiter (5) lead
SAR kills Weim (2)
Cray kills AM (1)
Snowy unkills Glam (0)
Snowy kills SAR (4)
Cray unkills AM (0)
AM unkills SAR (3)
AM kills Weim (3)
Pippy unkills MJ (0)
Pippy kills Sporty (5) tie
AM unkills Weim (2)
AM kills Sporty (6) lead
allie unkills SAR (2)
allie kills Sporty (7)
Weim unkills SAR (1)
Weim kills Caiter (6)
jboo unkills Caiter (5)
jboo kills SAR (2)
Sporty unkills Caiter (4)
AM unkills Sporty (6)
AM kills Weim (3)
Stagg kills kaydubz (1)
Caiter unkills Sporty (5)
Caiter kills Weim (4)
Sporty kills Weim (5) tie
Weim unkills Caiter (3)
Weim kills Sporty (6) lead
MJ unkills Caiter (2)
MJ kills Weim (6) tie
Pippy unkills Sporty (5)
Pippy kills Weim (7) lead
Cray kills Weim (8)
AM unkills Weim (7)
AM kills jboo (1)

Night 1 Mayor Tally
MJ (3) - Sporty, MJ, SAR
Ski (1) - finn
Pippy (2) - Pippy, kc
jboo (1) - jboo
AM (6) - AM, shelter, Skim, dolphin, Weim, Glam
Sporty () -
finn (3) - Snowy, Cait, Ski
Stagg (2) - Cray, Stagg
Snowy (1) - genny
Cray (1) - allie

20/20

Night 2 Kill Tally
MJ () -
SAR (2) - snowy, jboo
Weim (7) - genny, sar, caiter, sporty, mj, pippy, cray
Cray (1) - shelter
Sporty (5) - Skim, finn, kcough, allie, weim
Glam () -
Caiter (2) - dolphin, glam
am () -
kaydubz (1) - stagg
jboo (1) - am

19/19

Night 3 Kill Tally
allie () -
shelter (7) - sporty, jboo, cray, skim, sar, glam, kcough
snowy (1) - am
glam (1) - pippy
dolphin (1) - allieh
am (3) - finn, stagg, mj
stagg (3) - dolphin, snowy, genny
jboo (1) - shelter

17/18
Missing: Cait

Actually I debated voting glam (village read + other two votes for her were both on my wolfy leaning list) BUT MJ's popping in to vote AM and then poof again made me want to see if he'd participate a bit more with some pressure.

Is there a reason you didn't go that way yesterday when he did a similar thing?

 

[Glammyre]

Oh shoot, I haven't voted yet, have I

Kill glam

Not psyched about her responses so far -- I feel like she's typically a lot more insightful as a villager than what I'm seeing from her this time around

Remember how I was in Pokemon? (I think you played that.) I'm ending up with the same type of thing here where I'm on more in the evenings.

I get where some of the votes on me might be to get me to post more, but otherwise I'm not sure why I'm the target.

My personal reads so far -
Good guy
SAR - Strongest read for me because of vote evidence. Second on weim and someone weim voted to kill long before she was in the lead
AM - closer reset to regular tone. Also, when I think about it more, I don't think a bad guy would have tried for mayor unless they had a seer immunity like weim.


Bad guy
MJ - agree with what other people said about riding the bss. Wasn't last on Weim, but late enough that it's not a lot of good-guy cred. Haven't heard much from them since.
johnaboo - They seem much more active today when there's only been soft pressure. There's been equivalent pressure on me (possibly stronger, with the votes) and look how long I took to show up. I also think it's weird to use the lynch cancel as soon as the good guy who can selectively invalidate it is dead. The two-day justification doesn't make much sense to me - this isn't a protection ability where using it will convince the bad guys to choose another target, and you're nearly guaranteed to save a good guy on any night you choose.

Thought leaders
Pippy and Cray are in a special category for me because I feel they've been driving a lot of the discussion. I don't think both of them are bad guys, but I could easily see a bad guy behind one of them since both of them know how to power wolf.

Cray - late to the bus on weim and helped start the bus on shelter. That, plus me disagreeing with their positions more than usual (albeit mostly the mayor discussion), has me worried about cray

@PippyPony - out of curiosity, why didn't you vote for me earlier today? I was your vote yesterday, and you're good enough at reading me that I'm pretty sure you'd be pushing me harder if you thought that I was sketch.

Technically, I view AM as a thought leader on the thread as well, but she's in my good-guy lean for seeking mayor.

Miscellaneous threads
IIRC, Sporty was vouched for by @Mad Jack as someone we should not lynch. MJ, is that still true?

I think Caiter was vouched for by someone as well, but I can't remember who. Either way, I'd rather wait and see how her sub does before judging. @Caiter92, hope your kid feels better soon!

 

[Mad Jack]

Remember how I was in Pokemon? (I think you played that.) I'm ending up with the same type of thing here where I'm on more in the evenings.

I get where some of the votes on me might be to get me to post more, but otherwise I'm not sure why I'm the target.

My personal reads so far -
Good guy
SAR - Strongest read for me because of vote evidence. Second on weim and someone weim voted to kill long before she was in the lead
AM - closer reset to regular tone. Also, when I think about it more, I don't think a bad guy would have tried for mayor unless they had a seer immunity like weim.


Bad guy
MJ - agree with what other people said about riding the bss. Wasn't last on Weim, but late enough that it's not a lot of good-guy cred. Haven't heard much from them since.
johnaboo - They seem much more active today when there's only been soft pressure. There's been equivalent pressure on me (possibly stronger, with the votes) and look how long I took to show up. I also think it's weird to use the lynch cancel as soon as the good guy who can selectively invalidate it is dead. The two-day justification doesn't make much sense to me - this isn't a protection ability where using it will convince the bad guys to choose another target, and you're nearly guaranteed to save a good guy on any night you choose.

Thought leaders
Pippy and Cray are in a special category for me because I feel they've been driving a lot of the discussion. I don't think both of them are bad guys, but I could easily see a bad guy behind one of them since both of them know how to power wolf.

Cray - late to the bus on weim and helped start the bus on shelter. That, plus me disagreeing with their positions more than usual (albeit mostly the mayor discussion), has me worried about cray

@PippyPony - out of curiosity, why didn't you vote for me earlier today? I was your vote yesterday, and you're good enough at reading me that I'm pretty sure you'd be pushing me harder if you thought that I was sketch.

Technically, I view AM as a thought leader on the thread as well, but she's in my good-guy lean for seeking mayor.

Miscellaneous threads
IIRC, Sporty was vouched for by @Mad Jack as someone we should not lynch. MJ, is that still true?

I think Caiter was vouched for by someone as well, but I can't remember who. Either way, I'd rather wait and see how her sub does before judging. @Caiter92, hope your kid feels better soon!

Sporty is legit

 

[Glammyre]

Aaand I forgot to drop a kill vote

kill johnaboo

MJ's notified that I'd like to hear from him

 

[Glammyre]

Sporty is legit

👍 Interesting, and thanks

 

[PippyPony]

MJ, are you just stalking the thread until your name comes up, or what?

Edit: didn't see that glam tagged you. That might have something to do with that response time lol

 

[jaboo]

Aaand I forgot to drop a kill vote

kill johnaboo

MJ's notified that I'd like to hear from him

I’m a she, fyi. Also that’s not my name 😛

 

[finnickthedog]

I think Caiter was vouched for by someone as well, but I can't remember who. Either way, I'd rather wait and see how her sub does before judging. @Caiter92, hope your kid feels better soon!

Was me. And I stand by it.

 

[jaboo]

Cool. And your reads are? Also yes people point things out that I agree with and use them in my analysis of how I'm reading people. Do you ONLY have original thoughts?

I’ve been pretty vocal about who I’m suspicious of.

Idk, kc, it felt forced to me and all you seemed to say in each read was what other people have already talked about several times

 

[genny]

You mean always a wolf genny? Not for any particular reason other than I know she's a good bad guy. Did she do something significant I should be remembering that should clear her?

I am a wolf! 😀

 

[SARdoghandler]

Sorry guys. This week has gotten much worse for my personal time than I thought. Add in a killer migraine and I'm not having the best time right now haha

Kill kc

For now, knowing I'm not as caught up and thinking as straight as I should so there might be totally valid reasons for not voting here. However, tingly feels.

 

[genny]

I kind of want to vote for snowy, but that's just so problematic for me. Plus, stagg is voting for her, and I'm not really all that comfortable with stagg right now. Though no one else seems to share that thought, since he's not even on the tally yet today. Everything's just so spread out.

 

[PippyPony]

Remember how I was in Pokemon? (I think you played that.) I'm ending up with the same type of thing here where I'm on more in the evenings.

Nope, sadly did not play Pokemon even though I play Pokemon go every day.

(Add me if you play! My trainer code is 4674 3167 6405)

@PippyPony - out of curiosity, why didn't you vote for me earlier today? I was your vote yesterday, and you're good enough at reading me that I'm pretty sure you'd be pushing me harder if you thought that I was sketch.

I was in class and thought I had already voted

I don't really understand the second part of your question. Are you saying I should be more concerned about you than you think I am?

Edited to add pokemon info

 

[KCgophervet]

Yes. Here's both of them.

That is a lot of effort there. Not sure exactly what you're wanting me to get out of it, other than yes I'm impressed genny went back and did the vote tracker - I find that potentially more useful than the final day analysis. I think timing of votes and reasoning behind them plus other gameplay actions and feels tend to contribute more to my village-hunting strategy than where the votes landed at the end of night. Which is why when I skim and don't have the time/energy to put in the constant effort my gameplay sucks a lot more. Gone are the days sitting in a vet school lecture hall making WW spreadsheets and re-reading the thread 3 times a day...

Is there a reason you didn't go that way yesterday when he did a similar thing?

I called him out the other day, he popped in and said he was cleaning his house. Gave him a day to do that but now I kinda want more (especially since he didn't come clean my house afterwards).

 

[KCgophervet]

I’ve been pretty vocal about who I’m suspicious of.

Idk, kc, it felt forced to me and all you seemed to say in each read was what other people have already talked about several times

No one was calling me out for reads. I decided to do them when I saw stagg was posting more frequently and realized I had forgotten stagg was playing. It was a way for me to actually look up the list of all the players and decide how I felt about them (and remind myself of who all was actually playing since there have been a vocal minority and quite a few under-the-radar folks.) So... idk why you think it was forced since literally no one asked me or was even really mentioning me other than Snowball

 

[SportPonies]

lynch cray

Still at school. Still have not read the last day. Going with my slightly uncomfortable feels on her. I usually have a good idea of when she's village, and I don't have that good idea yet, despite her mass amount of posts to analyze.

Tempted to see what happens if we lynch AM though.

 

[KCgophervet]

Since apparently he only appears when tagged,

@Mad Jack what are your thoughts on this game? Other than "don't kill sporty"

 

[Karabiner13]

Night 4 Kill Tally

glam (3) - dolphin, jboo, pippy
snowy (2) - am, stagg
dolphin (1) - cray
am (2) - finn, mj
skim (1) - snowy
mj (1) - kcough
jboo (1) - glam
kc (1) - sar
cray (1) - sporty

Missing: allieh, caiter, genny, skim

13/17

Deadline 10pm est (~1 hour)

 

[Skimble]

After Iso'ing Skim, her contributions are limited to her results from the tin-foil, random info from past games, and 1 or 2 posts on general strategy/mechanics. Almost nothing about reads other than one liners with her votes. Again, not a fan. @Skimble any actual reads thus far?

I've given some reads, and if you iso'd my posts, you should see some.

Again, I think AM is wolf, and I don't see why people keep voting there.

I usually have a better read of cray, but some of her posts directed at me felt kind of pockety, and it makes me really uncomfortable. In the past she's been quick to lynch me when she was a good guy.

I'm not sure how I feel about the vouches for caiter and sporty. It's easier to lie in pm vs on thread.

I think jboo is also wolf based on the proven ability that is definitely detrimental to the village and helpful to wolves.

So that leaves... everyone else that I'm just not sure about. I'm hesitant to lynch glam, because I feel she's getting lynched for the same reason that you are voting for me, and that is decreased post quantity and quality based on time available. I also play this game a lot on feels, without concrete reasons, and that seems to bother some people. That said, I'm going to...

Kill Kc

Which pains me in some ways because I like her a lot as a player, just something feels a bit off.

 

[Glammyre]

I’m a she, fyi. Also that’s not my name 😛

Whoops. Sorry on both counts 😳

I don't really understand the second part of your question. Are you saying I should be more concerned about you than you think I am?

Nope, I was trying to figure out what looked like an inconsistency in your feels when deciding if you vs. cray vs. both were sketch

 

[Stagg737]

I've given some reads, and if you iso'd my posts, you should see some.

Again, I think AM is wolf, and I don't see why people keep voting there.

I usually have a better read of cray, but some of her posts directed at me felt kind of pockety, and it makes me really uncomfortable. In the past she's been quick to lynch me when she was a good guy.

I'm not sure how I feel about the vouches for caiter and sporty. It's easier to lie in pm vs on thread.

I think jboo is also wolf based on the proven ability that is definitely detrimental to the village and helpful to wolves.

So that leaves... everyone else that I'm just not sure about. I'm hesitant to lynch glam, because I feel she's getting lynched for the same reason that you are voting for me, and that is decreased post quantity and quality based on time available. I also play this game a lot on feels, without concrete reasons, and that seems to bother some people. That said, I'm going to...

Kill Kc

Which pains me in some ways because I like her a lot as a player, just something feels a bit off.

Psssst, I'm not voting for you...

 

[Stagg737]

I've given some reads, and if you iso'd my posts, you should see some.

Again, I think AM is wolf, and I don't see why people keep voting there.

I usually have a better read of cray, but some of her posts directed at me felt kind of pockety, and it makes me really uncomfortable. In the past she's been quick to lynch me when she was a good guy.

I'm not sure how I feel about the vouches for caiter and sporty. It's easier to lie in pm vs on thread.

I think jboo is also wolf based on the proven ability that is definitely detrimental to the village and helpful to wolves.

So that leaves... everyone else that I'm just not sure about. I'm hesitant to lynch glam, because I feel she's getting lynched for the same reason that you are voting for me, and that is decreased post quantity and quality based on time available. I also play this game a lot on feels, without concrete reasons, and that seems to bother some people. That said, I'm going to...

Kill Kc

Which pains me in some ways because I like her a lot as a player, just something feels a bit off.

Also, you really don't see why people would be uncomfortable with AM based on the topic of conversations she was in earlier in the game?

 

[Skimble]

Psssst, I'm not voting for you...

Whoops! That was snowy. Sorry, I'm having a hard time keeping anyone straight this game! I openly admit that is likely affecting my reads to an extent.

 

[Skimble]

Also, you really don't see why people would be uncomfortable with AM based on the topic of conversations she was in earlier in the game?

You mean about her running for mayor and then saying it stressed her out? No. That doesn't really bother me. I don't see AM running for mayor as a villager in this game. There are other minor things that make me think she's wolf as well. As I also said before, I do think she'd make an excellent convert choice, but that is a discussion for another day.

 

[genny]

kill glam

 

[Karabiner13]

Night 4 Kill Tally

glam (4) - dolphin, jboo, pippy, genny
snowy (2) - am, stagg
dolphin (1) - cray
am (2) - finn, mj
skim (1) - snowy
mj (1) - kcough
jboo (1) - glam
kc (2) - sar, skim
cray (1) - sporty

@Glammyre is in the lead!

Missing: allieh, caiter

15/17

Deadline 10pm est (~40 min)

 

[Stagg737]

Hey guys, I’m really sorry I haven’t been around. Getting subbed out tomorrow so I can focus on my bun. Caught up with yesterday and am catching up with today now.

I'm so sorry about your bunny, I hope he starts doing better soon.

 

[allieh8607]

ugh I really don't have strong feels towards anyone right now. The way votes are spread out is a little worrisome.

 

[allieh8607]

kill dolphin while I go do some ISOs

 

[Stagg737]

You mean about her running for mayor and then saying it stressed her out? No. That doesn't really bother me. I don't see AM running for mayor as a villager in this game. There are other minor things that make me think she's wolf as well. As I also said before, I do think she'd make an excellent convert choice, but that is a discussion for another day.

I was referring to getting involved in several conversations about mechanics including one about your tin foil results about whether a convert would be included in those counts. Just seemed very out of character for her to me to even be involved in those kinds of conversations beyond "why are we talking about this right now". I feel better about her today, but she's still on my village-y side of the pile.

 

[Skimble]

I was referring to getting involved in several conversations about mechanics including one about your tin foil results about whether a convert would be included in those counts. Just seemed very out of character for her to me to even be involved in those kinds of conversations beyond "why are we talking about this right now". I feel better about her today, but she's still on my village-y side of the pile.

Yeah no... that doesn't bother me at all. I'm sure it's not the first time she's talked mechanics, and often talking mechanics can help catch a bad guy.

 

[Stagg737]

Can I get some actual explanations as to why people are voting for Dolphin? I've read her correctly in almost every game we've played and I'm just not seeing it here.

Edit: Or why people are putting her in their village-leans pile.

 

[Stagg737]

Yeah no... that doesn't bother me at all. I'm sure it's not the first time she's talked mechanics, and often talking mechanics can help catch a bad guy.

I realize mechanics helps catch bad guys. I love mechanics. AM does not, and the amount of times she's engaged in those conversations early on along with other things I've already mentioned bothers me a lot.

 

[Skimble]

I realize mechanics helps catch bad guys. I love mechanics. AM does not, and the amount of times she's engaged in those conversations early on along with other things I've already mentioned bothers me a lot.

I guess I didn't see her mechanics conversations being that extensive. It's also what was being discussed widely on thread at the time and she clearly had input. I guess we have a difference of opinion, but I'm just not seeing how people really think she could be village.

 

[allieh8607]

Can I get some actual explanations as to why people are voting for Dolphin? I've read her correctly in almost every game we've played and I'm just not seeing it here.

It was her persistence in killing caiter when caiter had a pretty solid vouch from finn. Then dolphin claimed it was mostly in part due to a misunderstanding from thinking caiter was referring to a certain game when in reality it was a different game. And I'm not sure I'm buying it. Just because you can read someone well doesn't mean everyone has to trust you on your reads. My vote for her is mostly a placeholder until I find someone else I want to kill more. Although the more you protest her lynch, the more I start formulating a certain theory.

 

[KCgophervet]

Can I get some actual explanations as to why people are voting for Dolphin? I've read her correctly in almost every game we've played and I'm just not seeing it here.

Edit: Or why people are putting her in their village-leans pile.

I may be overcompensating for it, but it seemed like a lot of the arguments against dolphin were based on her misunderstanding something Caiter said (about what happened in a previous game). Reading through the weim/caiter/sporty/sar voting it became more clear to me at least that dolphin was referring to a different game than what others were referring to and it all just reads like a big nooby misunderstanding. So for some reason that pushed her into wolfy territory for me because I could definitely see myself digging that hole and getting killed for it.

While explaining this though I realize that it probably should have landed her more in null zone for me than wolf since I don't really have anything positive for her other than I disagree with the thought processes that were making her villagey.