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jolt, quick question. did you by any chance win a noble prize or something?
and i mean that in a very complimentary way. nice cycle.
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no nobel prize...just hard-working
but thanks, He2
jolt, quick question. did you by any chance win a noble prize or something?
and i mean that in a very complimentary way. nice cycle.
mmmcdowe, awhile back someone posted regarding the role of residency on admission despite this being a private school-i don't think it was in the columbia thread specifically, but i think a combined columbia/penn thread under "what are my chances?" Any way you could comment on that? Are there in fact more accepted students from home state NY in your experience?
In evaluating the qualifications of applicants, the Committee on Admissions does not seek a uniform pattern of background or ability. Careers in medicine are open to students with diverse experience, interests, and personalities. The committee attempts to select candidates on the basis of their potential for service and leadership in whatever field they may choose to enter. Consideration is given to many factors, including cultural, athletic, service-oriented, and other extracurricular activities. Other factors being equal, preference is given to residents of Pennsylvania.
mmmcdowe, awhile back someone posted regarding the role of residency on admission despite this being a private school-i don't think it was in the columbia thread specifically, but i think a combined columbia/penn thread under "what are my chances?" Any way you could comment on that? Are there in fact more accepted students from home state NY in your experience?
I'd just like to shoot out another plea for interview feedback. The admissions office (not committee, you aren't going to be hunted down for having feedback) is very much looking to incorporate the opinions of this years interviewees in their plans to renovate the interview day (something that might even start in part this cycle). If you are truly scared about being hurt by your feedback, change the date of your interview (though they would prefer you not if it is something specific like bad food, rude person etc so they can hunt THEM down) or pm me and I will forward your comments anonymously.
Oh, by the way I asked about the last date of interviewing. It hasn't been set, though they are hoping to finish mid-February (last year they apparently went past mid-February and, while they are backed up, they still anticipate not having to go that far over).
I use a lot of parentheses....
mmmcdowe, is the admissions office going to review the SDN interview feedback section to obtain information or is there another way we should pass it along? i interviewed back in october and i don't recall there being any official post-interview evaluation that they asked us to do...was there something that i missed?
Yes. Your chances are significantly better In-State (twice as likely to be admitted if you get an interview). This usually pans out at almost every medical school.
Total admissions data
7014 applied, 1101 interviewed, 291 were accepted, 153 enrolled
In-state admissions data
114 interviewed, 62 were accepted, 42 enrolled (54% of interviewees accepted)
Out-of-state admissions data
987 interviewed, 229 were accepted, 111 enrolled (23% of interviewees accepted)
I think I made the post in that other thread. Same thing goes for UPenn, which even specifically states it on their website:
I.E. In-State is your X-factor to get you in over equally ranked/qualified applicants.
Does anyone know the preferred process for sending updates? On their website it has their mailing address posted, but they also have their email right under it. Since Columbia does everything by paper, should I send a letter instead of an email? Sorry if this was answered already.
Hey everyone,
I just received a thank you letter from Dr. Frantz regarding the thank you letter I sent to my interviewer. In this letter, Dr. Frantz says "I can assure you that we will keep you very strongly in mind." My question is, should I read too much into this? Or is this a standard letter that is sent to everyone who sends out thank you letters? I tried searching the forums but got bogged down... I do remember reading that he (Dr. Frantz) is always optimistic when speaking with applicants...
Tjquinn
they have received all my materials for just over a month. should i be worried?
That's a Dean Frantz classic phrase. While the letters do have a few variations here and there, they don't guarantee a given outcome. Most people but not everyone seems to get a letter response from thank yous, but people who don't get the letter also get accepted so it might just be an occasional lost letter or something.
they have received all my materials for just over a month. should i be worried?
ha. many of us have been complete since august.
My application was submitted in mid-October and I still haven't heard anything (good or bad). I just sent a letter of interest with updates, but should I be worried?![]()
.ha. many of us have been complete since august.
I think that the poster meant that they haven't been marked complete yet.
What is it about Columbia P&S that makes them so prolific (and successful, look where they match!) in producing NS residents? Columbia typically matches to all the top programs in every field, but looking back over past match lists, Columbia consistently puts out more neurosurgeons than anybody else, bar none. One year Columbia matched 12, yes 12, neurosurgery residents. I am just curious how they inspire and successfully place so many medical students in NS... it does not seem to be coincidence. Great training programs? Hospital? Advising? Research? What makes them special? I realize this post likely won't interest a lot of people looking at this thread, but any Columbia students with an ear to the ground have any clues on this?
Remember, much of what specialty people go into is self selective. I'm sure many folks could get into neurosurgery if they so desired, but go into other fields. As well as doing what you like, interests you, etc etc, what specialty you go into is in part dependent on the experiences that you have with members of that specialty. You might be interested in a specialty, but if you are constantly having negative experiences while rounding or have clashes with the attendings/residents, it is very likely that these things are going to have an affect on your desire and enthusiasm for that specialty. The reverse is also true. Without a doubt, Columbia has a very influential neurosurgery department. It is one of the best, and many of the attendings/residents provide some of the best experiences to medical students. Dr. Quest, for example, is quite a well known guy, but also is one of the advisory deans, a prolific adcom member, and plays trombone in a number of P&S events. He is quite possibly the most beloved advisory dean at the school, if my experiences with people in his group are a good representation. In addition, the neurosurgery department has sent in more residents/attendings/fellows than any other department for anatomy labs. They are great teachers and very enthusiastic. Good experiences with mentors is a powerful way to kindle an interest. You then combine this with the fact it is a huge department (NYP has 32 attendings!!!!) and a very approachable group of neurosurgery researchers looking for medical students wanting semester and summer research. There is also the fact that there are some students (a minority, but some), who were attracted to Columbia because of the strength of their neurology/neurosurgery/psych departments. All of these factors come together to (in my opinion) explain why Columbia has such a powerful presence in this field.
Also, mmmcdowe I'm pretty sure I met you when I visited... thanks for the conversation.
I kinda got that sense from this thread.
Have you guys started performing into the woods yet?
hi guys! does anyone know if columbia sends out pre-interview rejections??
They most certainly do, as does every US medical school. That isn't to say that have sent them out *yet* though.
well i meant rejections way before the march decision deadline. some schools like harvard and yale won't let you know of the pre-interview rejection until march when they send out all other final decisions![]()
Hey all,
Does anyone on this thread know what days P&S typically conducts interviews? I'm going to be interviewing at Weill in mid-January (probably 1/12, 1/13, or 1/14) and I was wondering a) if it would be a good idea to send an "in the area" letter of interest to Columbia and b) if they did have me for an interview, what are their mid-January dates? Ideally, I can coordinate an NYC area trip to consolidate interviews (currently on the West Coast and have a strong interest in reducing the number of redeyes I fly). I also have completed apps in at NYU and Yale, if anyone knows anything about those schools' interview dates.
Thanks for any help you can provide!
P.S. My Columbia app was complete 12/11, if that is helpful info.
Starting jan they will be only interviewing on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday.Every day monday through friday except for holidays and such.
If you haven't interviewed by late January, I think it's safe to assume rejection... dangit, I should've sent an in-the-area email when I went to NYC for my other interviews... I was just too scared that it would reflect badly haha has anyone actually had any luck with in-the-area emails?
Starting jan they will be only interviewing on Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday.
Does anyone have any idea on when the admission committee meet to review those who have interviewed.
Is it worth sending an update letter at this point if you've been complete for months? Are there still interview invites still out there?
I sent an update letter/letter of interest a week ago, and then I get an email saying that my application is complete. I never got an email like that before...how does an update letter complete my application?![]()
ok i LOLed at this. but anyway, I've been complete since early sept i think. I was debating about sending an in-the-area email when i was in NYC for other interviews in nov, but I was told that those emails are not such a good idea for columbia. but anyway- mmmcdowe seems to be encouraging update/interest letters. Is that appropriate to send pre-interview? I'm always a bit ancy about these letters, because it seems like such a "pre-medish" thing to do and I figured it might just annoy schools. but if columbia is very receptive to them, I'm totally game. what should be included?
I know nothing about the official say effect of in the area emails. I wouldn't be surprised if they were ineffective, if only because Columbia tends to be a bit backlogged in terms of applications. Columbia encourages updates. It sounds vague, but they are happy to accept anything you want to inform the admissions committee about. I personally sent a December update letter about grades, variations in my activities (didn't end up doing on thing that I had written I was continuing, started doing something else), status updates on my activities (progress of my research, club initiatives, etc), and also any awards that I had won (I sent a second letter about this because I hadn't won it in December yet, but you get my picture).
If I had had any new ones, I would have also sent letters of rec.