2009-2010 University of Florida Application Thread

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Can anyone confirm or deny the pass/fail thing? Thanks.

I am positive we are having pass/fail and we are not going to be ranked until 3rd and 4th year. The 2nd years are currently voting to see if they want pass/fail as well. UF is moving to pass/fail because the new dean did not like the system that was in place. He wants to make it more like Michigan where he graduated from. This is all I know for now. Ill try to pass on info as I hear it 😉
 
Hi guys! I was just wondering how many ppl were planning to order scrubs thru UF? I wanted to know if I wud stick out like a sore thumb if I had on my own. Even tho they say that they r selling them at a good price, I was able to find some for a little cheaper (Burlington Coat Factory-$15 for entire set). Plus it offers the benefit of being able to try them on b4 I bought them...it seems like every pair fits differently. Anyway, thanks for any replies!
 
I got the scrubs through UF. I figure that I'm going to need to buy them for third year anyway, might as well get them now.
 
I got the scrubs through UF. I figure that I'm going to need to buy them for third year anyway, might as well get them now.
You'll need scrubs 1st yr too for anatomy. I need to find somewhere that sells tall scrubs as I have a 46" in seam and the XXXL ones are ridiculously wide, LOL.
 
Just received this email. P/F is officially being implemented:

Hi Everyone,
As the new Senior Associate Dean for Educational Affairs I want to welcome you to the University of Florida College of Medicine and to inform you about an important change in our medical education program. Over 40 medical schools currently have pass/fail grading in their “pre-clinical” curriculum including UCSF, Univ. of Michigan and Univ. of Virginia. Further, research has shown that pass/fail grading in the first two years of medical school significantly decreases student stress, without any adverse effect on student scores on national licensing exams or the student’s ability to match into the most competitive residencies. With these important issues in mind, we have decided to implement pass/fail grading for the first two years of medical school beginning in August, 2010.

Those with experience in pass/fail grading systems have noted that in the absence of grades, there is more emphasis on student learning; collaboration and teamwork among students; progressive mastery of competencies; and the enhancement of personal and professional development outside of the classroom. In a 2009 study that included over 1,200 residency program directors’ evaluation of the 14 most important factors that they use to evaluate applicants, performance in the required clinical clerkships ranked #1 while performance in “preclinical” courses ranked #12. We will continue to assign grades for the required clinical clerkship experiences during the third and fourth years. I have attached three articles that may be of interest that address some of these issues.

We are confident that this change will have significant benefits for you and your personal development.

If you have any questions about the change in our grading system, please feel free to contact me. I look forward to meeting and working with you in the years ahead.

Best regards


Joseph C. Fantone, M.D.
Professor, Department of Pathology
Senior Associate Dean for Educational Affairs
University of Florida College of Medicine
 
Just received this email. P/F is officially being implemented:

Hi Everyone,
As the new Senior Associate Dean for Educational Affairs I want to welcome you to the University of Florida College of Medicine and to inform you about an important change in our medical education program. Over 40 medical schools currently have pass/fail grading in their “pre-clinical” curriculum including UCSF, Univ. of Michigan and Univ. of Virginia. Further, research has shown that pass/fail grading in the first two years of medical school significantly decreases student stress, without any adverse effect on student scores on national licensing exams or the student’s ability to match into the most competitive residencies. With these important issues in mind, we have decided to implement pass/fail grading for the first two years of medical school beginning in August, 2010.

Those with experience in pass/fail grading systems have noted that in the absence of grades, there is more emphasis on student learning; collaboration and teamwork among students; progressive mastery of competencies; and the enhancement of personal and professional development outside of the classroom. In a 2009 study that included over 1,200 residency program directors’ evaluation of the 14 most important factors that they use to evaluate applicants, performance in the required clinical clerkships ranked #1 while performance in “preclinical” courses ranked #12. We will continue to assign grades for the required clinical clerkship experiences during the third and fourth years. I have attached three articles that may be of interest that address some of these issues.

We are confident that this change will have significant benefits for you and your personal development.

If you have any questions about the change in our grading system, please feel free to contact me. I look forward to meeting and working with you in the years ahead.

Best regards


Joseph C. Fantone, M.D.
Professor, Department of Pathology
Senior Associate Dean for Educational Affairs
University of Florida College of Medicine
Saw that today. Kind of glad actually. I want to be in an environment where people are more focused on working together and learning the material than trying to beat each other on exams.
 
Saw that today. Kind of glad actually. I want to be in an environment where people are more focused on working together and learning the material than trying to beat each other on exams.

I agree. My only reservation when choosing UF was the lack of pass/fail. Looks like they took care of that.
 
Has anybody gotten any financial aid information yet?
 
Ah - I've missed the party in here. I was inactive on SDN for too long 🙁
 
Man - I didn't realize so many of you guys were starting this fall with me. For some reason I thought Dr. Zaius was a current student. Hah

obviously I haven't read too much of this thread...
 
Yep. Go to http://www.isis.ufl.edu/, click on financial aid, login, and view your awards. I didn't get ****! 😀

I still have nothing listed, not even Stafford loans. I hope I'm just still waiting on information. Otherwise, I have no idea how I'm going to pay tuition. 😛

Edit: From the financial aid website. It looks like this is normal. Maybe we can expect something today or tomorrow, however.

July 19, 2010
UPDATE FOR 2010-2011 awards:
New 2010-2011 budgets aren't totally put in the UF system yet. They are hoping to start testing possibly by the end of the week.
I will send an email to current students when it happens and you will be electronically notified by UF as well.
 
Hm...I see my financial aid "award". It just lists the cost of attendance from August to May as 45,291 - so I'm assuming that's what I'm getting in the way of loans. BTW tuition figures were updated for 2010-2011 - tuition is now 30,755 per year. or something like that. it's on the fin-aid website.
 
Were you at second look? For some reason I pegged you as a guy I met there.

You'll be able to figure out who I am very quickly once you find out where I'm from.
Just look for the med student with the orange hair and orange abe lincoln sytle beard...who is also an orangutan.

Look forward to meeting you panheads 😀
 
Well, you guys will know it's me because I won't be an actual person. I'll just be a silhouette with a full head of hair, smoking a cigarette against a blue backdrop.
 
Just look for the med student with the orange hair and orange abe lincoln sytle beard...who is also an orangutan.

Look forward to meeting you panheads 😀

haha - yep. 1st day of orientation will be interesting. speak of the devil, it's not too far off now, is it?!
 
haha - yep. 1st day of orientation will be interesting. speak of the devil, it's not too far off now, is it?!
I've got everything except the lab coat. I have some old scrubs I can use, but really want some nice ones that are actually long enough. May have to go online for those.
 
You'll definitely be able to recognize me.

Btw, have any of you registered for classes or done anything else like that? I'm kind of getting worried that I missed something here...
 
You'll definitely be able to recognize me.

Btw, have any of you registered for classes or done anything else like that? I'm kind of getting worried that I missed something here...

I haven't done anything like that nor have I received an email with anything about it. I think we cover all of that stuff during orientation...at least I hope we do.
 
You'll definitely be able to recognize me.

Btw, have any of you registered for classes or done anything else like that? I'm kind of getting worried that I missed something here...
I think we all take pretty much the same classes for the first 2 yrs with the exception of these narrative medicine and review sessions here and there. I think we do the same stuff 3rd yr as well, but in different order and then there's all kinds of customization during 4th.

Got a pretty good chunk of "America's Social Health" done today. Easy read, but not too exciting. I feel like they could make their point in 10 pages and be done. Oh well.
 
I think we all take pretty much the same classes for the first 2 yrs with the exception of these narrative medicine and review sessions here and there. I think we do the same stuff 3rd yr as well, but in different order and then there's all kinds of customization during 4th.

Got a pretty good chunk of "America's Social Health" done today. Easy read, but not too exciting. I feel like they could make their point in 10 pages and be done. Oh well.

Where did you find it? I've been trying to get a copy, but I can't find a bookstore with it, and last I checked on amazon it wouldn't be here in time.
 
Where did you find it? I've been trying to get a copy, but I can't find a bookstore with it, and last I checked on amazon it wouldn't be here in time.
Half.com. Bought it and the Every Patient Tells a Story one right when the email went out. Bought it since they said we may discuss it and the Every Patient one because it seemed interesting.

Saw the dude who wrote the checklist one on the Daily Show and some other interview; he pretty much summed up the whole book in 5 min. I've been working with cadavers for 3 yrs, so don't need the Body of Work one. The thinking one didn't seem like anything special either so I didn't bother.

The Social Health one is easy, but dull. It's basically just about how we need to do a better job of covering and quantifiying social issues. We have the S&P500 and stats like GDP for our economy that are updated all the time and everyone pays attn to them...the book calls for something similar for social issues (infant mortality, homlessness, crime, teen suicide, blah blah blah); a "Social Health Index" as it were.

I'm almost done with it and can pass it on to you this weekend when I get into town if you'd like.
 
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Half.com. Bought it and the Every Patient Tells a Story one right when the email went out. Bought it since they said we may discuss it and the Every Patient one because it seemed interesting.

Saw the dude who wrote the checklist one on the Daily Show and some other interview; he pretty much summed up the whole book in 5 min. I've been working with cadavers for 3 yrs, so don't need the Body of Work one. The thinking one didn't seem like anything special either so I didn't bother.

The Social Health one is easy, but dull. It's basically just about how we need to do a better job of covering and quantifiying social issues. We have the S&P500 and stats like GDP for our economy that are updated all the time and everyone pays attn to them...the book calls for something similar for social issues (infant mortality, homlessness, crime, teen suicide, blah blah blah); a "Social Health Index" as it were.

I'm almost done with it and can pass it on to you this weekend when I get into town if you'd like.

I appreciate the offer, but at this point I won't have time to read it. Hitting up Harry Potter World until Friday (woo! Getting hammered at scarring children for life!) with friends who came down from 'Bama. See you guys on Monday!
 
The only one I read was "How Doctor's Think" by Groopman...I thought it was a pretty good book. I honestly did not know or hadn't considered a sizable chunk of what he goes through. I didn't finish it but I think I got the gist of it...all about cognitive errors in doctor's thinking and how to work around them both from the perspective of a doc and a patient.
 
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