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What up AK (it's Willy, the old SN brought it through for me).

And I'm not sure how they go about the early acceptances, I know some Ivy Leaguers that didn't get a shout back (nor head of PreMed and a few others that surprised me). Besides, you've got round 2 early acceptance and then mass acceptance in Feb.

What was your interview like? Any stumbles in the interview or lack of connection with your interviewers? How well did you play up Arkansas being your pride and joy of life? I talked a bit about how my entire family still lives here, so that could've helped me, especially since you have the better MCAT.
 
Willy: Lol hey man. I'll be back in Faytown tomorrow I think. This medical school application season is really wearing on me. I thought my interview went well, but I guess you never know. It was my first one of the season though so I might have been out of my element. I guess there's not much I can do but wait.
 
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Nope, it's not binding. It's saying we accept the act of the offer, and we have until May 15,2011 to inform them of our decision. From what I guess, it's just freeing up slots as early as possible (since a lot of us with early acceptance have already received additional options). Think you'll go here or take one of your others (stellar app!)?

And I'm still laughing about the White Coat order form.

Haha, OK, thanks for the confirmation. It's still kind of strange for me to wrap my head around the fact that I'll be wearing one of those white coats next year!

Really, really psyched that I heard back from UAMS early! I've missed not being near family during undergrad and I'd love to come back for med school. Really impressed with all of the clinical training at UAMS!
 
I'd advise against buying a coat from UAMS, just FYI. The pockets in the coats they have are really small. Landau coats get the Milkman stamp of approval.

P.S.: I met a bunch of people at our formal last night who just walked up to me and were like "You're Milkman, aren't you?" Good times. 👍
 
Willy: Lol hey man. I'll be back in Faytown tomorrow I think. This medical school application season is really wearing on me. I thought my interview went well, but I guess you never know. It was my first one of the season though so I might have been out of my element. I guess there's not much I can do but wait.

We'll definitely need to catch up. Hit Ben up for my number, but he might be upset that Jason and I didn't show for a Christmas Sweater party. It may have been just the nerves with the interviewers; I had a blast in my interview (laughed a lot with them, talked a good bit about Arkansas, and talked about the Satellite) and didn't get too bogged down in the harder questions. The hard part was that they were both extremely smart and cute(and single!), horrid way to make me more nervous for an already nerve-wracking experience.

And to Milkman, I think I met you after looking at your Med profile. I was the long haired, hippie looking Arkansan that probably made an uncreative attempt at an insult about North Carolina. Then again, you put me on the spot with some 'your dad's an OB/GYN' jokes in front of the entire tour group.:laugh:
 
Hmm, some catching up to do. I went off the grid (anyone who's seen Tron Legacy should have an extra appreciation for that phrase) before the last test and haven't been online the last few days.

Al/MJM 09: do you guys have any suggestions as how to best prepare for the interview? I've been browsing through the interview feedback section; is there anything else I can do to prepare, like reading a book on medical ethics or healthcare reform?

The benefit of an closed file/conversational interview is that it should be more relaxed and relatively unscripted compared to other interview methods. The downside is there's a whole lot of variability and you actually have to talk to your interviewers for a while 😀. It's always good to be up on ethics issues (hot topics have been health care reform, end of life decisions/what to do if a you disagree with a family member about the care of a comatose or terminal patient (I had this one), and privacy, but they really could ask anything if they wanted) but ethics questions seem to be the most variable part of the interview. I had a couple, some have had none, others have talked like they got grilled with them. So not sure what to tell you there. Other than the traditional garbage (why do you want to be a physician/why UAMS/what's your plan B?) just plan to talk about yourself. Remember- the committee has your numbers and stats and unless your interviewer asks specifically (which they're really not supposed to do but some apparently have) you don't need to talk about that stuff. Talk about what you think makes you "special" and things you know they can't get a full appreciation for by reading your file. Many interviewers will be interested in talking about any research experience you may have of course, and showing an appreciation or interest for primary care and rural health never hurts...

Also accepted! I go to school OOS so I guess my letter took an extra day to arrive.

The acceptance form we're supposed to return isn't binding or anything, right? I assume it isn't, but there are all these other forms to fill out for white coats and stuff...
Congrats! None of that is binding, but I think I can speak for all the future waitlistees when I say to you and the others with other offers: please make up your mind as soon as possible. You're in an extremely small group of people lucky enough to have multiple offers, but the longer you take to decide the longer someone else doesn't have a shot at those spots. Make a good, informed decision and think about where you'll be happiest (or least crazy 😀) during med school, and let us know if there are any questions those of us on here currently at UAMS can answer for you to help. You can ignore most of the other forms until closer to registration, you'll probably be given them two or three more times before then anyway.

I'd advise against buying a coat from UAMS, just FYI. The pockets in the coats they have are really small. Landau coats get the Milkman stamp of approval.

P.S.: I met a bunch of people at our formal last night who just walked up to me and were like "You're Milkman, aren't you?" Good times. 👍
I wish I'd known that earlier... These coats are truly awful. Admittedly, I'm sure the Haitians making them had other things on their minds at the time, but they truly are crummy. I'll have to remember that Landau coats are worthwhile, thanks!


To those of you that got offers: congrats, and good luck with the decision phase! To those of you waiting or otherwise, have a Merry Christmas and take out your stress on those holiday treats.
 
I'm really excited about receiving a large envelope from UAMS this past weekend!! Can't wait to meet all my classmates. And I agree, the gendered white coat forms were hilarious.
 
It says on the UAMS site that letters will be mailed on February 20 to all applicants, which is a Sunday. Do you think the letters will be mailed the week before or after?
 
A very reliable little birdie just told me that there are 80 OOS interviewees this year. Considering that probably 30-ish will matriculate, I'd say you have some pretty good odds if you're actually looking to go here. Good luck!
 
A very reliable little birdie just told me that there are 80 OOS interviewees this year. Considering that probably 30-ish will matriculate, I'd say you have some pretty good odds if you're actually looking to go here. Good luck!

I was a little surprised to see that there are also going to be about 40 in-state applicants interviewing this Saturday with the OOS interviewees, I seem to remember them not liking to put many of the in-state interviews that late if they could avoid it.

At any rate, good luck to everyone coming to interview this Saturday- I'll be on one of the tour groups and look forward to meeting some of you. Hopefully you all had a good Christmas/New Year's and are relaxing a bit before heading down here. If you need any last minute hotel or dining recommendations, ask away and I'm sure amongst all of us we can help you out.
 
I heard all of you guys interviewing this weekend got invited to a reception at the Clinton Library this Friday night. They've rented out the library and it sounds like they'll have a tour of the library/museum planned for you and then mingling afterwards. Pretty cool opportunity in my opinion, and probably a good way to relax the night before the interview. Any of you guys going to be there?
 
Just got back home after the interview. It was a great experience overall, the admissions staff (esp. Ms. DuPuy) were very friendly and supportive, and the interview was very laid back and chill. The med students were helpful with tips and inside info about the school.

Hoping for good news in February :xf:
 
Being an OOS interviewee from Kansas, wasn't sure how I'd like the place. After attending the reception and my interview day I can say that I'm very impressed. UAMS staff was very friendly and organized and the facilities were more modern than any of the other schools I've interviewed at. Sure hope I get some good news :luck:

Good luck to the rest of you as well, including all those I met when I was down there.
 
Wichita, actually. There were a couple of us from Kansas.
 
As I understand it, January 8th was the only day where out of state applicants were interviewed. Is this true, or will there be another weekend for OOSers?
 
As far as I'm aware, that was the last interview date of the year. Sorry. 🙁

Oh no you have the wrong idea 🙂. I was at that last interview. I was just curious how many oos to account for.
 
Is it just me or what, Feb 20th seems just a long time? It seems I have put all my eggs in one basket. I really want to attend med school at Uams for so many reasons; as such I have been lazy in pursuing other options. :scared:

I left the interview feeling great, but that has changed over time. :laugh: I don't want to go through this process again.
 
Oh no you have the wrong idea 🙂. I was at that last interview. I was just curious how many oos to account for.
Ah, gotcha. Well, like I said, they sent us an email stating that they were interviewing 81 OOS applicants on the 8th. I'm not sure if there were other OOS people at the previous session, but I certainly didn't see any. They usually interview well over 100 OOS people, and I'm not sure what accounted for the decrease. In any event, it's good news for you guys who actually want to come here. Lots of OOS people decide to go somewhere else (this is Arkansas, after all), so you have a really, really good chance of being accepted.

Is it just me or what, Feb 20th seems just a long time?
Unfortunately, you're probably going to have to wait longer than that to get in. UAMS has a rather nasty habit of waitlisting OOS applicants only to accept them later due to the massive waitlist movement. I'm not saying a waitlist spot is as good as an acceptance, of course, but chances are you're going to get stuck there, one way or another.
 
The Milkman, I am considered in-state.

I just heard that only about 50 or so get automatic acceptance; the rest are through waitlist/rural medicine program. This info was from a lady who graduated years back. I seriously doubt this, what do u think?
 
I have absolutely no idea, The RphToMD. All I can tell you for sure is that roughly 1/2 of in-state applicants matriculate and that the waitlist moves a whole hell of a lot. I also know that not too many people per class are doing the rural practice program: maybe a dozen or so, at most. They have to give out enough acceptances to fill the class by March 15 or something, so just running the math makes me think you've probably heard incorrectly.
 
The Milkman, I am considered in-state.

I just heard that only about 50 or so get automatic acceptance; the rest are through waitlist/rural medicine program. This info was from a lady who graduated years back. I seriously doubt this, what do u think?

Yeah, as Milkman said, that's not correct. They offer a few in-state spots in December (10-12 normally, I've heard), a few in-state (same) in January, and then everyone else hears word in February. They will have offered acceptances to every available space on the February mail date, and waitlisted a certain number (normally around 60) more. There are only a few people that do the rural practice thing, and certainly not enough to fill all spots above 50 from. There is a lot of waitlist movement on the in-state side since some IS applicants will go elsewhere (although quite a few of them will have already informed UAMS of this before acceptances are offered) and quite a few more will choose to defer admission a year for one reason or another. If you're interested in doing the rural practice thing and you get waitlisted- make sure you apply for that program. You get moved to the top of the waitlist and your odds of getting in are exceptionally good at that point (keep in mind you do have to do rural practice if you apply to the program... 😀). There's also a lot of movement on the OOS side, but it may just seem like a lot since it's not as many spots too. At any rate, the majority of my OOS friends were waitlisted at some point it seems.

To break it down into statistics based off interviews... 324 in-state applicants were expected to interview, and between 104 (legal minimum)-151 will be accepted (normally closer to that 145-150 mark). Those are excessively good odds when it comes to med school admissions, so be happy about that. OOSers- 80 of you ended up interviewing, and probably around 30 of you (23 or more, anyway) will end up being accepted. Once again, excessively good odds if you were invited to interview.

I'm puzzled by them interviewing less OOSers this year if that's the case since overall OOS applications were up a decent amount, but I'm sure they have their reasons.

Feb 20th isn't that far away guys, so try not to stress any more than necessary. I kept myself insanely busy the month of February and it helped put it out of my mind until the letter actually showed up. I was driving a group from Dallas to Fayetteville for work when my parents called and said a letter had come in (they hadn't opened it) and I told them I'd call them back and hung up, I didn't want to hear bad news in a rental SUV full of prospective students and cause a wreck or something. Apparently I looked like I was having a heart attack or something after I hung up because one of the kids asked if I was alright 😀. I was of course thrilled when I called them back and they opened and read the first sentence of the letter, but I didn't totally believe it until I met them (that night, since I was leaving again for work in a couple days) halfway between Fayetteville and home to get the letter and see it with my own eyes. I made damn good time driving to meet them that night too. At any rate, keep your mind busy and come February maybe you can have your own crazy letter-opening experience.
 
I didnt think so either, may be that was how it was way back when. 😕


MJM09 & MilkmanAl 👍
 
Is the 10-15 the legit number of December offers?

There are 4 of us from the same high school that got December offers (different Universities now, but applied from same district), and I know 3 others with offers. Pure chance?

UAMS may rescind my acceptance after I called down to thank Linda DuPuy. I was completely tongue-tied and panting with excitement, still way too giddy. I know that my stammering made 0 sense. :laugh:

I will also be forcing my way into this UAMS SDN clique. I am 9 feet tall, 400 lbs, all muscle.
 
I was thinking the December group was maybe 30 or so, but that's total conjecture.
 
I was thinking the December group was maybe 30 or so, but that's total conjecture.
Is the 10-15 the legit number of December offers?

There are 4 of us from the same high school that got December offers (different Universities now, but applied from same district), and I know 3 others with offers. Pure chance?

UAMS may rescind my acceptance after I called down to thank Linda DuPuy. I was completely tongue-tied and panting with excitement, still way too giddy. I know that my stammering made 0 sense. :laugh:

I will also be forcing my way into this UAMS SDN clique. I am 9 feet tall, 400 lbs, all muscle.
That's what I was told last year. It's normally a very small offering, I doubt it'd be a full fifth of the in-state class spots, because I've heard from a good source the January offering is the same size. Both of them together might make up 30 spots, but individually? Doubtful. The reasons they make the December and January offers are a bit mystical (it's not purely stats, as I used to assume), but congrats on being an early pick. You may just know a lot of people they thought would be good early admits 👍. Are any of you MD/PhD or rural medicine applicants?

I laughed a little about the phone call. I was always worried about things like that too. I'd call the office, get nervous, and mispronounce something or stammer and I could just picture them taking note "possible yokel or invalid. Not College of Medicine material."

As far as the SDN clique, I'm sure you're welcome, haha. Although if we adjust the members to your e-description scale, I'm Terrell Brown and I believe Milkman is Godzilla. 😀
 
It's normally a very small offering, I doubt it'd be a full fifth of the in-state class spots, because I've heard from a good source the January offering is the same size. Both of them together might make up 30 spots, but individually? Doubtful.
Yeah, what he said. Unless things have changed dramatically in the last 3 years, the vast majority of acceptances go out in February.

if we adjust the members to your e-description scale, I'm Terrell Brown and I believe Milkman is Godzilla.
I dunno about all that, but I may sound like it when getting people together for a tour. 😛
 
Are any of you MD/PhD or rural medicine applicants?

Nah, regular applicant. I'm from one of the 3rd world districts though and had a master's in-house, which I hear carries considerable weight.
 
Nah, regular applicant. I'm from one of the 3rd world districts though and had a master's in-house, which I hear carries considerable weight.

😀 Oh come on, it's at least 2nd World... They do seem to like the UAMS Master's people, we have a few of them in my class.
 
Is there a chance that the January interviewees would be eligible for early January acceptance? I have tried looking, I am sure its been posted before, but I can't seem to find it. The admission committee, would they be meeting this January?
 
Is there a chance that the January interviewees would be eligible for early January acceptance? I have tried looking, I am sure its been posted before, but I can't seem to find it. The admission committee, would they be meeting this January?

I've never heard of that happening but I suppose it's possible. I'm not sure what the official word on that is though. I doubt they normally do since the early acceptances always go to (from my understanding) in-state applicants, which normally have all interviewed by December. This year was the first year I've heard of where a sizable portion of in-state students interviewed in January too, and I'm not sure what the reason for that was (or the reason for less OOS interviewing was). I may have to ask about that.

I would imagine the committee does meet in January, but I don't think a meeting in January would necessarily mean that Jan. applicants could get an early acceptance.
 
January letters are out.

I just got accepted.

Good luck everyone
 
You mean...the letters from Jan 8th are out there? :scared:

Thought it wouldn't be until February.

EDIT: Ah, must be since you're in state.
 
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Congrats man! Mind posting your stats (undergrad/gpa/MCAT/congressional district). I've got a few friends crossing fingers for a letter.

And if we both accept, see you in August!
 
FHS Unite!

Well I got accepted today. Takes the pressure off for the rest of the application season. I'll need it with all the waitlists that will likely be coming my way from other schools. I'm still kind of shocked that I'm going to be a doctor.

Good luck to everyone else!
 
Congrats to all those who received recent acceptances.

Does anyone know UAMS's policy on post-interview update letters? Should you include references/contact info. in a update letter? Im not sure how a update letter/LOI is suppose to be executed!😕

Thanks.
 
Does anyone know UAMS's policy on post-interview update letters?
I don't believe they/we have one. If you have something cool to send in that you think will help, do it.

Should you include references/contact info. in a update letter?
That would probably be useless. I seriously doubt they'd contact anyone, but if you want to have that person call the office or write an additional rec letter for you, I don't see how that could hurt. If your own contact info has changed, just update it in AMCAS.

Im not sure how a update letter/LOI is suppose to be executed!
There are plenty of great guides around here that will describe what you should include. If you want an example, alwaysaangel (no typo) has a superb letter in her MDApps profile.
 
Yeah, as Milkman said, that's not correct. They offer a few in-state spots in December (10-12 normally, I've heard), a few in-state (same) in January, and then everyone else hears word in February. They will have offered acceptances to every available space on the February mail date, and waitlisted a certain number (normally around 60) more. There are only a few people that do the rural practice thing, and certainly not enough to fill all spots above 50 from. There is a lot of waitlist movement on the in-state side since some IS applicants will go elsewhere (although quite a few of them will have already informed UAMS of this before acceptances are offered) and quite a few more will choose to defer admission a year for one reason or another. If you're interested in doing the rural practice thing and you get waitlisted- make sure you apply for that program. You get moved to the top of the waitlist and your odds of getting in are exceptionally good at that point (keep in mind you do have to do rural practice if you apply to the program... 😀). There's also a lot of movement on the OOS side, but it may just seem like a lot since it's not as many spots too. At any rate, the majority of my OOS friends were waitlisted at some point it seems.

To break it down into statistics based off interviews... 324 in-state applicants were expected to interview, and between 104 (legal minimum)-151 will be accepted (normally closer to that 145-150 mark). Those are excessively good odds when it comes to med school admissions, so be happy about that. OOSers- 80 of you ended up interviewing, and probably around 30 of you (23 or more, anyway) will end up being accepted. Once again, excessively good odds if you were invited to interview.

I'm puzzled by them interviewing less OOSers this year if that's the case since overall OOS applications were up a decent amount, but I'm sure they have their reasons.

Feb 20th isn't that far away guys, so try not to stress any more than necessary. I kept myself insanely busy the month of February and it helped put it out of my mind until the letter actually showed up. I was driving a group from Dallas to Fayetteville for work when my parents called and said a letter had come in (they hadn't opened it) and I told them I'd call them back and hung up, I didn't want to hear bad news in a rental SUV full of prospective students and cause a wreck or something. Apparently I looked like I was having a heart attack or something after I hung up because one of the kids asked if I was alright 😀. I was of course thrilled when I called them back and they opened and read the first sentence of the letter, but I didn't totally believe it until I met them (that night, since I was leaving again for work in a couple days) halfway between Fayetteville and home to get the letter and see it with my own eyes. I made damn good time driving to meet them that night too. At any rate, keep your mind busy and come February maybe you can have your own crazy letter-opening experience.
Does the waitlist number of sixty include Out of State applicants or is that a number of In state applicants who are waitlisted?
 
It's the total. All applicants are ranked together; there are not separate waitlists, though they will skip OOS applicants if they max out on their OOS quota. Anecdotally, it seems that the waitlisted OOS people seem to be closer to the top than Arkansas people, but that's only based on an incomplete survey of my class.
 
Those of you that are current students ( Al and MJ ) or anyone else that has some input, besides apartmenthunters.com and similar sites how could i go about finding a place near campus. A couple friends told me that i should just go look in the area, but im trying to find a place in early may and im not sure there will be many openings then. Im looking for a 2 br (vacant) near campus (hillcrest or somewhere nearby) for under 1000/month. Is that an unreasonable expectation, and do you guys know if there are postings on campus for housing in the area. BTW i am wanting to rent not buy (like thats an option for me anyway!!:laugh:). Thanks in advance
 
Congrats on your acceptance Jt and Alex!

Jt- From friends, I've been told to either live on campus or live a few miles away from past medical students. That area of Little Rock may not be the best place to be commuting from daily, especially in odd hours. Personally, I'm leaning towards dorms for the first year.
 
I live in maumelle and the commute is 15-25 minutes depending on traffic. I really like the area but it would be nice to live closer. I have a few friends that live in the riverwalk apts on riverfront dr. It's not far from campus at all, just off Cantrell and there are other apartments in that area as well.
 
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