2012-2013 University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Application Thread

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Thanks guys! And yes, waiting that extra bit was definitely hard... so much so that I skipped an afternoon lecture to sit in front of my mail slot. 🙄

If anyone is in need of a roommate let me know. 👍
 
Thanks guys! And yes, waiting that extra bit was definitely hard... so much so that I skipped an afternoon lecture to sit in front of my mail slot. 🙄

If anyone is in need of a roommate let me know. 👍

When the facebook group gets rolling in the near future, you'll be able to get in touch with other classmates to find roommates.

Congratulations!
 
For all you medical students who have been down this road, how does the student loans process play out? I doubt I qualify for scholarships, so I'll probably have to take everything out on loans.

Do I meet with someone or do I have to handle everything on my own?
 
Accepted as well! OOS student from CA, this is a pretty exciting time!
 
For all you medical students who have been down this road, how does the student loans process play out? I doubt I qualify for scholarships, so I'll probably have to take everything out on loans.

Do I meet with someone or do I have to handle everything on my own?


Make sure you've filled out the fafsa. You should have a bunch of paperwork in the packet about financial aid. At the end of orientation, at registration, you'll sign a couple more pieces of paper detailing tuition and fees and financial aid. Toward the end of August, you'll get a check in the mail. It's all pretty streamlined. I didn't have any problems with it. The big downside is that refund checks don't come until about 3 weeks after classes start, so you've gotta support yourself somehow until then.
 
Great, thanks for the reply LouieLouie. One more question. I saw that I can take out once during the 4 years up to $1500 for a computer. In my case, I haven't had a laptop in over two years and manage to keep up with the internets via my work computer or iphone.

I was curious what is the most effective way to use technology in lecture, team based learning, etc. Do most people lug a laptop around or is it feasible to use an ipad (I'll be investing in one of those nifty things sometime soon). Or do most of you guys go old school and print off hard copies ahead of time?

Also, I know this may not be the best place to ask, but what would be a reasonably priced and accommodating laptop for medical school? I am by no means a computer whiz and have no idea where to start.
 
I dunno about you Wompy, but my packet had a page about a laptop requirement.

Check your packet again (it was a yellow page). It's got details about the required specifications for laptops too.

Also, the details for financial aid are covered on a single sheet in the packet. It just sort of points you at the website. I knocked out the FAFSA and was sick of it, so I'll hit it again tomorrow =P.. that is assuming I have power.. stupid frozen precipitation. I'm sort of clueless on financial aid too though. I was fortunate enough to have enough scholarship money to get through undergrad without paying out of pocket until post-bac.
 
Great, thanks for the reply LouieLouie. One more question. I saw that I can take out once during the 4 years up to $1500 for a computer. In my case, I haven't had a laptop in over two years and manage to keep up with the internets via my work computer or iphone.

I was curious what is the most effective way to use technology in lecture, team based learning, etc. Do most people lug a laptop around or is it feasible to use an ipad (I'll be investing in one of those nifty things sometime soon). Or do most of you guys go old school and print off hard copies ahead of time?

Also, I know this may not be the best place to ask, but what would be a reasonably priced and accommodating laptop for medical school? I am by no means a computer whiz and have no idea where to start.

So glad you asked about financial aid. I'm not too fond of the lack of aid in the month of August. But I guess as long as a hurricane doesn't ruin my first week of school and financial aid like it did this year... we're good. 🙂

As far as the laptop thing is concerned, I don't know what the current students will say, but I have loved my MacBook Air for grad school. I got an 11 inch Air last summer, and it goes with me everywhere. It's a great coffee shop study laptop and because of its size I really could care less about having an iPad. They are also currently Apple's cheapest models and if you buy one under the education store it's discounted $100.

Also, the details for financial aid are covered on a single sheet in the packet. It just sort of points you at the website. I knocked out the FAFSA and was sick of it, so I'll hit it again tomorrow =P.. that is assuming I have power.. stupid frozen precipitation. I'm sort of clueless on financial aid too though. I was fortunate enough to have enough scholarship money to get through undergrad without paying out of pocket until post-bac.

I wasn't familiar with financial aid much either for the same reasons until grad school this year. It really wasn't that hard though. I pretty much just filled out the FAFSA, went to Tulane's financial aid online page, logged in, accepted my loan amount, then it went into my student account to pay for everything, and they direct deposited my refund money. I honestly thought it was going to be a huge pain and hard to figure out... And it really wasn't. Fingers crossed UAMS is the same.
 
I dunno about you Wompy, but my packet had a page about a laptop requirement.

Check your packet again (it was a yellow page). It's got details about the required specifications for laptops too.

Also, the details for financial aid are covered on a single sheet in the packet. It just sort of points you at the website. I knocked out the FAFSA and was sick of it, so I'll hit it again tomorrow =P.. that is assuming I have power.. stupid frozen precipitation. I'm sort of clueless on financial aid too though. I was fortunate enough to have enough scholarship money to get through undergrad without paying out of pocket until post-bac.

Yeah, I'll definitely buy a laptop before school starts. I saw the required software and all that, I was more looking for specific models that people like because I have to go find something to buy.

The MacBook Air looks pretty good and is in my price range.
 
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Yeah, I'll definitely buy a laptop before school starts. I saw the required software and all that, I was more looking for specific models that people like because I have to go find something to buy.

The MacBook Air looks pretty good and is in my price range.

I'd say 80+% of our class has macbooks of some kind. I just upgraded from an older macbook pro to a new 13" macbook air and it's the best thing I've done so far. Lugging the old one from the parking lot got old.

There is a laptop requirement because we take our exams on them. Right now we're using the educational lab pc's, but the software we have lets us take the exam wherever. They're going to be going to that type of setup more regularly next year as the educational labs are the most scheduled rooms on campus.
 
I was curious what is the most effective way to use technology in lecture, team based learning, etc. Do most people lug a laptop around or is it feasible to use an ipad (I'll be investing in one of those nifty things sometime soon). Or do most of you guys go old school and print off hard copies ahead of time?

All of the above. Most people set their laptops up on the tables during TBLs. Some people take notes on ipads. Some people print out powerpoints [or we have them printed off], and take notes the old fashioned way.

I've done all of the above and still haven't found a proper rhythm yet. Your study methods will change so many times that you just have to go with what works.
 
I figure I'll get a mac simply for compatibility purposes with other students. Since like you said most others will probably also have one.
 
Get whatever you like to use and can "afford" (if you're going to be on loans like me, that's more of a joke). The majority of the educational things created at UAMS/used there are PC based because that's obviously what the campus runs on, but there are far fewer compatibility issues with Mac than there used to be. Everyone is going to be using powerpoint and such anyway, so you're not going to have to worry about problems transferring things between classmates. If I were going back and doing it over again I'd get one of the tablet/keyboard combo things like a Surface or a Transformer for convenience sake. I took my laptop everywhere first year and although it wasn't heavy as far as laptops go, a full sized laptop isn't the route I'd go again.
-Matt
 
Get whatever you like to use and can "afford" (if you're going to be on loans like me, that's more of a joke). The majority of the educational things created at UAMS/used there are PC based because that's obviously what the campus runs on, but there are far fewer compatibility issues with Mac than there used to be. Everyone is going to be using powerpoint and such anyway, so you're not going to have to worry about problems transferring things between classmates. If I were going back and doing it over again I'd get one of the tablet/keyboard combo things like a Surface or a Transformer for convenience sake. I took my laptop everywhere first year and although it wasn't heavy as far as laptops go, a full sized laptop isn't the route I'd go again.
-Matt

I was going to say the same thing. I think for me the biggest problem software wise was just trying to find things that made working with my ipad easier. By far, goodreader + dropbox seems to be the best combination. If only goodreader could modify powerpoints as well as it works with PDFs. Noteability is the other app most people use as well. I haven't really gotten into it, though.

I'm going to further reinforce the idea of not buying all the books recommended on the booklist you received in the packet. Except the genetics book - I bought the kindle version of that and ended up getting screwed because of lack of page numbers. I hope Dr. Schaefer's book is better with that. I would highly recommend acquiring ebooks, though, if you are a book reader. The medphys paper book is massive. The CHM or PDF version is virtually weightless. Since August I've gone from carrying a full and heavy backpack with binders and printed powerpoints, to only carrying a laptop and a small folder to contain written notes.

The $80 Netter's ipad atlas app was an okay purchase. It was useful for quizzing myself in anatomy, but sometimes a book did help (I used/am using Lippincott's).
 
I feel a bit silly asking this... but... oh well. I'm excited. 😛

Stethoscopes. A friend of mine at Tulane said that the school pays for their first stethoscopes. (Which I informed him I'm sure his ridiculous tuition and fees were paying for.) UAMS does not provide stethoscopes, correct? Personally, I'm fine with this because I wanted to pick out my own. Cardiology III is a pretty common, good one right? Are colored ones okay? I mean I'm a girl... I wanted a Reddie/Razorback red one or a plum one...
 
I feel a bit silly asking this... but... oh well. I'm excited. 😛

Stethoscopes. A friend of mine at Tulane said that the school pays for their first stethoscopes. (Which I informed him I'm sure his ridiculous tuition and fees were paying for.) UAMS does not provide stethoscopes, correct? Personally, I'm fine with this because I wanted to pick out my own. Cardiology III is a pretty common, good one right? Are colored ones okay? I mean I'm a girl... I wanted a Reddie/Razorback red one or a plum one...

If the colors exist I'd assume it's at your discretion how much personality you put into your equipment. At worst you'd just be "that girl with the red stethoscope".
 
I feel a bit silly asking this... but... oh well. I'm excited. 😛

Stethoscopes. A friend of mine at Tulane said that the school pays for their first stethoscopes. (Which I informed him I'm sure his ridiculous tuition and fees were paying for.) UAMS does not provide stethoscopes, correct? Personally, I'm fine with this because I wanted to pick out my own. Cardiology III is a pretty common, good one right? Are colored ones okay? I mean I'm a girl... I wanted a Reddie/Razorback red one or a plum one...

You'll be able to place orders during orientation for books and supplies as a pre-order against your financial aide. All of the details will be given to you then in one of the many packets you'll get.. or, you can buy one on your own. I went the pre-order route because you don't need them for a few months into school. I, and most of my classmates, have the Cardiology III, in various colors. The bookstore has limited colors, though, so if you want the roadcone orange with the rainbow anodized diaphragm/bell, you might want to get that one from Amazon.
 
Making the huge assumption that the orientation bonanza prices are roughly the same as they were 5 years ago, most of the stethoscopes are actually similarly priced. I think there was like $40 difference between the cheapest and most expensive. For what it's worth, I can actually tell a difference between the cardio 3 and my Harvey DLX despite not exactly being the most skilled auscultator. That said, the cardio 3 is a fine steth that'll serve you well, and not buying the bizarre 3-headed DLX will save you a lot of **** on the wards.

Just FYI, here's a list of things you should buy from classmates or the school during orientation:
-Stethoscope

Things you should buy from Amazon:
-Reflex hammer, pen light, tuning fork (should cost you ~$10 total for all 3, so you might as well have them)
-Whatever books you want, one edition old and used, preferably. Lippincott's biochem, a dissector, an anatomy atlas (Rohen's or whatever illustrated atlas you like), RR micro, High Yield Embryo +/- Langman's Embryo, maybe an anatomy review book, BRS phys, Costanzo's phys text, and Haines's neuro atlas should really be all you need to rock the year.

Things you absolutley should not buy, under any circumstances:
-Devlin's Biochem, Whatever cell bio text nonsense they "require" now, basically any of the recommended texts
-An oto/ophthalmoscope. I needed one once in med school when I didn't have easy access to it. Ditto intern year so far. Save your $600.
-Blood pressure cuff. Complete waste of money.

Pro tip 1: Never, ever put the student parking sticker on your car. Doing so just prevents you from parking anywhere near the hospital. Without it, you can park unmolested in the VA and Children's lots.

Pro tip 2: Find an older student after you've gotten your orientation schedule an have him point out which lectures you need to go to and which you can skip. You can literally save yourself a couple days of time this way.

Pro tip 3: When registering for classes and getting your loans signed and all that crap, go to the immunization line first, no matter what. Seriously, just do it.

Pro tip 4: Go to every orientation event you can. They're fun, free, and getting to know your classmates is always good.
 
You're filled with so much useful info, Al. Keep that knowledge flowing, man.


I kinda feel like this thread is slower than in previous years. 🙁
 
You're filled with so much useful info, Al. Keep that knowledge flowing, man.


I kinda feel like this thread is slower than in previous years. 🙁

Agreed. All of you guys have been a big help. 👍

Yeah, there's hardly anyone on here... I'm hoping the Facebook group will be a bit more active once that's created.
 
Agreed. All of you guys have been a big help. 👍

Yeah, there's hardly anyone on here... I'm hoping the Facebook group will be a bit more active once that's created.

I'm thinking it probably will. Not everyone does sdn, but everyone and their mom has Facebook. It'll be nice to see the people I'll be spending the next 4 years of my life with.
 
Pro tip 1: Never, ever put the student parking sticker on your car.
Agreed. I don't think they give you one to park in the War Memorial lot, which makes it easier to park in the neighborhoods.. but, that being said, I used to live in the immediate neighborhood around campus and could see why the residents get upset. I don't think parking on side streets is worth the hassle as you have to cross Markham. I've found the walk to War Memorial to be just slightly longer, flatter, and not terrible.

Pro tip 2: Find an older student after you've gotten your orientation schedule an have him point out which lectures you need to go to and which you can skip. You can literally save yourself a couple days of time this way.

I'm not sure how this is going to work with the again-revised curriculum that the new M1s are going to deal with next year. I'm inclined to skip all the lectures and watch them on blackboard on my own time, with VLC, at an accelerated playback rate of around 1.2x to save myself some time every week.. that leaves me at the mercy of the faculty not screwing up blackboard, though, which has happened more than once when I thought it was worth skipping.

Pro tip 3: When registering for classes and getting your loans signed and all that crap, go to the immunization line first, no matter what. Seriously, just do it.

I'm not even sure we had an immunization line. I think we cleared all that before orientation. Our big time-waster line was the clicker checkout line. Everything else moved pretty quickly, but I had to wait over an hour for that one. They had one guy sitting there, filling out forms and scanning them out to us.

Pro tip 4: Go to every orientation event you can. They're fun, free, and getting to know your classmates is always good.
Yup. The PhiDE parties were the best. Don't expect to remember anyone's name though. I still don't know everyone in my class yet.

The administration is combining physiology, microanatomy, biochem, and cell bio into system-oriented blocks. Each block will get a grade, it seems. These classes will cease to exist after our year, so I'm not sure what the requirements will be for books. I think the only books I've really used this year are the embryology book and a bunch of different review books.

Gross Anatomy is going to be over and done with in the first couple months from what I hear, too. I'm not sure how the schedule is going to pan out for you new guys, but I hope it works for you. I got sick enough of gross lab after 2-3 dissections per week for months on end. If you're living it straight through, maybe it'll be better for you? I dunno, but I'm interested to see how it works out.

Don't buy an otoscope. Or a sphyg.. unless you really want one. Pick up the other ICM items on Amazon.

You guys will hear all of this repeatedly during orientation as well. I thought orientation days were the worst part of the first month or so.. it's just a week straight of being talked at during the day, and partying at night. Take notes, make friends, and drink up.

Until then, enjoy your free time. You'll miss it soon enough.
 
Hey all,

My wife and I are starting to think about what our living situation will look like.

What do you think about buying vs. renting in Little Rock?
Also what neighborhoods would be good places to start looking for either?

Thanks everyone for the already helpful tips!
 
To add to some previous posts:

Parking:
I have the after hours parking sticker for the UAMS deck and was glad I have it, but that's only because I live somewhat close to campus and I just liked being able to park there in the evening when I was studying. The hours that permit is good for make it useless for anything other than evening/night studying and night float. What is annoying about that sticker is that depending on which person is working the parking gate they are not technically supposed to let you park in that deck any other hours because you're a student (even if you pay). That can be really annoying if you're running late one day and are willing to pay the $7 or whatever it costs to park there that day. The Lot 10 permit (the gravel lot by the VA) is free, but it does label your car as a student. If you're not parking somewhere you shouldn't (like the VA patient lot, they have really been cracking down on this lately due to the lot being resurfaced and patients/families not having a place to park) it's a good permit to have. I've only had one instance of not finding a spot in lot 10.

Books:
Buy review books. You won't have time to use textbooks as anything other than a reference, and sometimes you won't even have time to do that. Upperclassmen will be able to tell you which textbooks are actually good references, but to be honest I didn't find any of them particularly excellent.

Orientation:
Orientation is a lot less painful than it used to be, actually. Our class cut a full day and a half of crap out of it for the current M2s when the administration asked us for ways to improve orientation, and I am sure they didn't add any of that fluff back for the current M1s either. The downside to that is it's pretty much cut down to the stuff they're legally required to do now and basic course info, which is all very boring. Our orientation week parties were the bright spot though. I met literally everyone in my class (that attended the parties, which was a very high percentage fortunately) those few nights and it really helped make the first few weeks easier since then you've already been introduced and friendships will develop pretty quickly. If you don't drink, still go to the parties and meet people. If you have social phobia, drink a little so you can relax enough to meet people.

Hey all,

My wife and I are starting to think about what our living situation will look like.

What do you think about buying vs. renting in Little Rock?
Also what neighborhoods would be good places to start looking for either?

Thanks everyone for the already helpful tips!
The buy vs. rent question is tough since there is the unknown of "will I be in Little Rock longer than 4 years?" to factor in. When I did the math, it broke down to where it was "cheaper" for me to rent than buy, but if I'd be in Little Rock longer than about 5 years the benefit swung back over to buying at the price range I was looking at. Renting is lower risk of course, you can bail any time you please (which is nice if you end up going to the NW campus or when it comes time to move away for residency), but if you want to build equity/don't mind the hassle or risk of selling then you'll probably not be too satisfied with renting.

I'm a fan of the Hillcrest area, it's close to campus and has a nice little town/village feel to it along Kavanaugh. It's a popular place for students to rent, as well as buy, but it's probably the most expensive non-condo rent in Little Rock. I know quite a few people that rent downtown, which is the only real option if you want loft/condo living in Little Rock, but you pay a premium for that niche. Midtown and north of Markham are also good areas for students and the prices are more reasonable, it's just a little farther from campus and entertainment but still quite convenient. Riverdale is another popular area to rent, and is quite nice if you like living near the riverfront/trails/parks. Some people rent/buy out in west Little Rock (which is newer, relatively reasonable price-wise, and has larger homes), but then you have to deal with driving in and out to campus every day. Some people don't mind, but if I had to waste an extra hour of my day on commute after a 12-14 hour day on surgery I might snap. I know a couple people that live in Maumelle or comparably far out from campus, but once again, I wouldn't want to live that far out. Good luck with your search.

-Matt
 
To all the med students who posted: thanks for all the info! I'm super excited.
 
again-revised curriculum
Ugh. Nuff said.

Orientation is a lot less painful than it used to be, actually. Our class cut a full day and a half of crap out of it
Good news, to be sure.
I have the after hours parking sticker for the UAMS deck and was glad I have it, but that's only because I live somewhat close to campus and I just liked being able to park there in the evening when I was studying...but it does label your car as a student
Solution: don't take the sticker off its backing, and keep it inside your car. Hide it when you're not using it. As nice as marginally easier library access is, I don't think that's a good trade for easy rotation parking. When you've got to be in at 5 AM, nothing is worse than having to get up an extra 10 minutes early because you know you've got to walk across the whole damn campus to get where you need to be.

As for the rent/buy question, it's really a matter of where you're buying and what your finances are like. If you have the scratch and can get a place in a desirable area close to campus, I'd buy. Homes are insanely cheap in Little Rock, and you might as well secure your living for the next 4 years if you can. If you're like most students, though, renting is probably better. Like Matt said, you can always bail if things go wrong, and you don't run the risk of getting a place you'll be unhappy with down the line. If you're unfamiliar with the area and can't easily get to LR for some home scouting, renting, at least for your first year, is going to be way smarter, in my opinion.
 
All the talk of parking. Must be a big deal 🙂

Think it would be easier to commute on my motorcycle as far as parking goes or would I just get more of the same? And speaking of motorcycles do any of you guys ride? It would be nice to have someone to explore LR with when the summer rolls around.
 
All the talk of parking. Must be a big deal 🙂

Think it would be easier to commute on my motorcycle as far as parking goes or would I just get more of the same? And speaking of motorcycles do any of you guys ride? It would be nice to have someone to explore LR with when the summer rolls around.

If I'm not mistaken, you can park at War Memorial, and they even have a shuttle. Which no offense, but in my opinion is a little silly. The school isn't THAT far. Of course, New Orleans has given me a whole different perspective on what bad parking and roads are. I will agree though that stickers seem good to have for late night studying.

I know here the motorcycles are allowed to park in front of the building with the bicycles... Wonder how UAMS is. Even if it was about the same parking wise, wouldn't you still save on gas?
 
If I'm not mistaken, you can park at War Memorial, and they even have a shuttle. Which no offense, but in my opinion is a little silly. The school isn't THAT far. Of course, New Orleans has given me a whole different perspective on what bad parking and roads are. I will agree though that stickers seem good to have for late night studying.

I know here the motorcycles are allowed to park in front of the building with the bicycles... Wonder how UAMS is. Even if it was about the same parking wise, wouldn't you still save on gas?

I think scooters can park right in front of the library, which is in a central location. I've heard that they give priority to med students (not sure how much truth there is to that), but as an employee I've been on one of the parking waiting lists for over a year now.

I just checked, I'm still #139 of 561 people on the parking 2 list.
 
Will you be taking the acceptance? Cali to Arkansas, quite a change of scenery, eh?

Of the acceptances I have right now, most likely. Depends on financial aid and a few other places I'm still waiting to hear back from. Would be quite the change though! Excited for a new adventure 🙂
 
I know here the motorcycles are allowed to park in front of the building with the bicycles... Wonder how UAMS is. Even if it was about the same parking wise, wouldn't you still save on gas?

I find that I always have the best intentions of taking the bike instead of the car but there's something to be said about how lazy I am when I first wake up. If parking wasn't substantially better I'd probably just take my car. But honestly I hope I can get a place to rent within walking distance.
 
I find that I always have the best intentions of taking the bike instead of the car but there's something to be said about how lazy I am when I first wake up. If parking wasn't substantially better I'd probably just take my car. But honestly I hope I can get a place to rent within walking distance.

Hah, I'm guilty of this as well. I live mere blocks from Tulane's uptown campus, and there is a free shuttle service that runs almost every 30 minutes to the downtown campus. Guess who values their extra 20 minutes of sleep more than their gas? 😀

Wompy... Good grief, how many people do they get to in a year's time I wonder... 😱
 
I have a motorcycle, but haven't brought it out to campus yet as it kind of got buried in the garage after I finished building it. Parking for motorcycles is relegated to the parking decks. Here's a link for more info, but it doesn't mention students, so I'm not sure how useful it is:

http://www.uams.edu/parking/motorcycle_information.html

The shuttle cuts a ~10 minute walk into a ~10 minute bus ride. It's useful if it's cold or rainy, or if you're just feeling a little lazy.

We're getting the facebook group established now. Invitations to M0s should be going out once we get the list, if they haven't gone out already.
 
A friend just told me that they made the Class of 2017 Facebook group.
 
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I was going to wait to be invited... but then Linda sent out an email... so I just requested to join instead. 😛

I'm also sure everyone else got the background check email?
 
Background check email received and messed with.

Always nervous of malware with those browser apps. Glad to see someone else got it too 😉
 
I've heard early April is when OOS people start getting pulled off, so I imagine IS should hear before then.
 
I've heard early April is when OOS people start getting pulled off, so I imagine IS should hear before then.

Not necessarily, OOS accepted are replaced with OOS alternates. District 1 accepted are replaced with district 1 alternates, etc.
 
Not necessarily, OOS accepted are replaced with OOS alternates. District 1 accepted are replaced with district 1 alternates, etc.
I don't know that that's strictly true. They certainly try to replace people with similar alternates (e.g., white male from Wyoming with another white male from Wyoming or whatever), but that's not always going to be feasible. The only thing they have to do with alternates, if at all possible, is adhere to the state requirements for admissions per district and limits on OOS admits.

In any event, the list started moving in early May for my class, after all the rural practice people got accepted. Unless things have changed, that typically happens in mid-late April.
 
The way I've had it explained to me by admissions is that the list does stay static once the the rural practice program participants have been selected and moved to the top, but that just because the list is static it does not mean that the next person on the list is always the one to be offered the next available position. This is because, just as was stated in the previous post, the school is required to have a minimum number of admitted students from each congressional district. So if the minimum number, for example, is 35 (I'm sure this is not the number) for each district and District 1 only has 35 students admitted, then if one of those students declines the acceptance then no matter where on the list the next alternate is from District 1, well that is who would next be offered that spot. However, if all the districts have more than the required minimum accepted, then apparently the next available spot does indeed go to the alternate who is next on the list. This was just my understanding of how it was explained to me. Others on here may have additional information.

I do not know if things are separate for OOS applicants and if they have their own alternate list and go by a separate set of rules and are replaced by each other, or if everyone is on the same list.

Does anyone know how many of the rural practice people have been offered acceptances to the school and about how many were accepted into the program? That could give us a better idea of when movement will start for the remaining alternates not in the program.
 
Hello! So I was reading through last years thread (I saw a link at the beginning saying to check that out for info about the curriculum) and saw they were worried about getting on probation with LCME. Do you think this is still a concern? What happens if your school loses accreditation after you graduate? I know its an issue while you're still in school, but what about after you're done- assuming you've already started residency.
 
Hello! So I was reading through last years thread (I saw a link at the beginning saying to check that out for info about the curriculum) and saw they were worried about getting on probation with LCME. Do you think this is still a concern? What happens if your school loses accreditation after you graduate? I know its an issue while you're still in school, but what about after you're done- assuming you've already started residency.

Based off recent conversations with the administration, no, they're not as concerned. I think it was a shock to them at the time when another school they felt was similar to UAMS (they may have overestimated the similarity) was put on probation and that is what caused all the concern. They've since had the opportunity to go on some site visits at other schools up for review/renewal that are apparently far less prepared than UAMS as far as LCME criteria goes, which has been somewhat reassuring for them. They feel pretty confident that with their better baseline than other recent renewals and the improvements that have already been made (and ongoing curriculum improvements) that they'll be in good shape when the LCME does their review/renewal in 2014. The good thing is that the shock of the other university being put on probation led to some pretty rapid changes at UAMS that have probably been needed for a while.
-Matt
 
Based off recent conversations with the administration, no, they're not as concerned. I think it was a shock to them at the time when another school they felt was similar to UAMS (they may have overestimated the similarity) was put on probation and that is what caused all the concern. They've since had the opportunity to go on some site visits at other schools up for review/renewal that are apparently far less prepared than UAMS as far as LCME criteria goes, which has been somewhat reassuring for them. They feel pretty confident that with their better baseline than other recent renewals and the improvements that have already been made (and ongoing curriculum improvements) that they'll be in good shape when the LCME does their review/renewal in 2014. The good thing is that the shock of the other university being put on probation led to some pretty rapid changes at UAMS that have probably been needed for a while.
-Matt

Good to know. Thanks!
 
Okay, I'm looking for someone who knows anything about the Rural Practice program and my chances of getting accepted to UAMS since I have recently been bumped to the top of the alternate list apparently. Are my chances as good as they make them out? They're so sensitive about answering direct questions regarding the alternate list info. But I am just hoping that I get accepted to UAMS; it will be a dream come true!
 
Oh, and I just spoke with Tammy Henson last week when I got accepted into the program. She said they accepted only 10 this year. Does anyone know if I should be comforted by being on top 10 of the alternates? It's so hard to feel good about your chances until you get the official confirmation I guess. 😕
 
Good luck to everyone on the alternate list.
 
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