2014-2015 Columbia University College of P&S Application Thread

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If you took time off from your undergraduate studies, please briefly summarize your reasons for doing so. 250 words.

In what collegiate extracurriculars did you engage? 400 characters

Did you work for compensation during college during the year or the summer? 300 words

If you have graduated from college, please briefly summarize what you have done in the interim. 300 words.

What challenges do you expect to arise from living and working in a complex urban environment? How will you meet them? 300 words.

Is there anything else you would like us to know? 300 words.

Good luck to everyone applying! :luck:
 
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So excited to finally be applying to Columbia. It's always been my dream school!
 
Fire up for columbia. I just graduated here as part of the new curriculum, if you have questions always feel free to ask me.
Which scholarly project track did you complete if you don't mind me asking?
 
I took a year off so technically I didnt have to do one, but I added the time to do more research on the clinical research track.


Yeah, I do remember you saying that. The clinical research track looks extremely appealing, how difficult was it to find/join a project that matched your clinical interest? How supportive were the faculty?
 
Yeah, I do remember you saying that. The clinical research track looks extremely appealing, how difficult was it to find/join a project that matched your clinical interest? How supportive were the faculty?
I can't speak for mmmcdowe or the scholarly project, but I just finished first year and am doing NIH funded research along with almost 1/2 of my class (as far as I know, everyone who applied for NIH funding got it). It was extremely easy (and really a treat) to find an exciting project. I set up one-on-one meetings with several NYP doctors doing amazing things and, with their help and guidance, was able to tailor a project with a mentor who I clicked with well. Teaching is an important part of being a doctor here, and so it's a breeze finding faculty who are supportive. Opportunities are aplenty and it's just a matter of looking for them.
 
I can't speak for mmmcdowe or the scholarly project, but I just finished first year and am doing NIH funded research along with almost 1/2 of my class (as far as I know, everyone who applied for NIH funding got it). It was extremely easy (and really a treat) to find an exciting project. I set up one-on-one meetings with several NYP doctors doing amazing things and, with their help and guidance, was able to tailor a project with a mentor who I clicked with well. Teaching is an important part of being a doctor here, and so it's a breeze finding faculty who are supportive. Opportunities are aplenty and it's just a matter of looking for them.
That sounds awesome, thank you 🙂

I was under the impression the scholarly project was required, you just have to pick a track that interests you. Have I been misinformed?
 
That sounds awesome, thank you 🙂

I was under the impression the scholarly project was required, you just have to pick a track that interests you. Have I been misinformed?
You're absolutely right. You have 4+ protected months after your major clinical year to do a project that you care about. Through first-year, though, it's not something that I thought about or prepared for regularly (although summer projects can be jumping-off points).
 
Fire up for columbia. I just graduated here as part of the new curriculum, if you have questions always feel free to ask me.
I have a few for you if you have the time to answer. Thank you very much for your response 🙂:
I've read about Columbia's commitment to primary care where every student completes clinical experience in ambulatory primary care or family medicine during a clinical year. Which did you participate in and how did you find that experience? Did you work in any underserved communities? I'm very interested in primary care as well working with underserved populations, as I've grown up in a medically underserved area and most of my volunteering experiences have also been in underserved communities, where I've acted as a scribe and translator for patients to help have their needs addressed and I've learned a few different languages and cultures to better understand each patient and the issues they face. I would also appreciate knowing any information about Columbia's programs working with the underserved, as I've read about the CoSMO program and am looking for more similar opportunities, such as that which I can explore.
Likewise i'm also interested in exploring global health opportunities, such as the Millennium Villages project the international center for AIDS care and Treatment program and other global health electives. Have you explored or do you know much about global health opportunities at Columbia? I've worked in a global health organization as an undergraduate and did research to bring solar panels to rural hospitals in India and other global health causes. I'm very interested in exploring global opportunities, and especially look forward to the opportunities they provide to learn different languages and cultures and will challenge me to address each person's needs.

What drew you to Columbia in particular and what opportunities available at columbia really influenced the direction of your medical care/resonate with you?

Could you tell me about the way the curriculum is structured at columbia and how that affected your education? I understand it is team-based, but also has a strong focus on individual goals. I've also heard about the P/F unranked curriculum and I really like the sounds of that. How did that affect your learning environment?

How close are the faculty to students? is it relatively easy to talk to faculty members and get involved with their research? I really wanted to pursue publications and extensive research as an undergrad, but never managed to be published or really direct or explore medical-related research, so I would be very interested in doing so in medical school. I know there's a required four-month scholarly project at Columbia, how is that handled? What types of research did you explore during your time at columbia?
Are there any unique opportunities you pursued at columbia that you would definitely recommend future students explore?

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my questions 🙂.
 
Well there is the primary care rotation, which as well as in new york can be done at the Bronx VA as part of a 3 month longitudinal rotation, rural parts of neighboring states, and also via the indian health services rotation in new mexico and arizona. I did the latter and it was the best experience of my clinical year. There are certainly lots of opportunities to work with the underserved in Harlem and Washington Heights. I did CoSMO for 5 years, but similar experiences can be obtained via CHAMP (Harlem Homeless) and Curhon (High risk individuals such as IV drug users and domestic violence victims). We also have a program through Amnesty International or a similar group that provides histories and physicals for people seeking asylum on the grounds of torture.
Plenty of options for global health, including paid experiences or those that pay for travel at least. We have affiliates in about 30 hospitals in 21 or so countries off the bat. You can also do your scholarly project abroad, and are allowed to be abroad for up to 6-7 months total during your fourth year.

I was drawn by the culture of diversity of interests in and out of medicine. I also liked the way that everything was flexible (non mandatory lectures, pass fail unranked, almost entirely elective 4th year, etc). It's a culture dedicated to allowing for people to find their own path. The value of p/f unranked is that it gives you the confidence to chose when you've mastered the material and move on to utilize the many other opportunities available at Columbia (be it research, volunteering, exploring NYC, etc).

It is very easy as a medical student to get involved in research, and I can't really claim that this is Columbia specific. Columbia has a strong core alumni group, and this breeds a lot of camaraderie amongst the students and residents/faculty. Columbia also does not require professors to teach as part of tenure. Everyone is a volunteer. This doesn't necessarily mean that all volunteers are good teachers, but it does mean that they genuinely are committed to your education. If you are willing to put in the effort, it is easy to publish something during medical school. I dealt with clinical research mostly. As a aside, the scholarly project doesn't have to be research. It can be public health, international, or even artistically inclined. One of my classmates did sketched collages depicting patients in and out of the hospital (with consent obviously).

The unique opportunity I recommend exploring at Columbia is the fact that you can take 2 classes per semester at any school or department at the university absolutely free (Law is the one exception). Thanks to the p/f curriculum, it isn't stressful to do so even.
 
Well there is the primary care rotation, which as well as in new york can be done at the Bronx VA as part of a 3 month longitudinal rotation, rural parts of neighboring states, and also via the indian health services rotation in new mexico and arizona. I did the latter and it was the best experience of my clinical year. There are certainly lots of opportunities to work with the underserved in Harlem and Washington Heights. I did CoSMO for 5 years, but similar experiences can be obtained via CHAMP (Harlem Homeless) and Curhon (High risk individuals such as IV drug users and domestic violence victims). We also have a program through Amnesty International or a similar group that provides histories and physicals for people seeking asylum on the grounds of torture.
Plenty of options for global health, including paid experiences or those that pay for travel at least. We have affiliates in about 30 hospitals in 21 or so countries off the bat. You can also do your scholarly project abroad, and are allowed to be abroad for up to 6-7 months total during your fourth year.

I was drawn by the culture of diversity of interests in and out of medicine. I also liked the way that everything was flexible (non mandatory lectures, pass fail unranked, almost entirely elective 4th year, etc). It's a culture dedicated to allowing for people to find their own path. The value of p/f unranked is that it gives you the confidence to chose when you've mastered the material and move on to utilize the many other opportunities available at Columbia (be it research, volunteering, exploring NYC, etc).

It is very easy as a medical student to get involved in research, and I can't really claim that this is Columbia specific. Columbia has a strong core alumni group, and this breeds a lot of camaraderie amongst the students and residents/faculty. Columbia also does not require professors to teach as part of tenure. Everyone is a volunteer. This doesn't necessarily mean that all volunteers are good teachers, but it does mean that they genuinely are committed to your education. If you are willing to put in the effort, it is easy to publish something during medical school. I dealt with clinical research mostly. As a aside, the scholarly project doesn't have to be research. It can be public health, international, or even artistically inclined. One of my classmates did sketched collages depicting patients in and out of the hospital (with consent obviously).

The unique opportunity I recommend exploring at Columbia is the fact that you can take 2 classes per semester at any school or department at the university absolutely free (Law is the one exception). Thanks to the p/f curriculum, it isn't stressful to do so even.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your response. I love how passionate you are about your school and medicine. It really encourages and motivates me.
 
I was looking at the secondaries from last year and they ask questions like "did you participate in College ECs?" and "did you work during the school year?"

Obviously there will be a lot of overlap in answering this and my primary application...is that okay?
 
I was looking at the secondaries from last year and they ask questions like "did you participate in College ECs?" and "did you work during the school year?"

Obviously there will be a lot of overlap in answering this and my primary application...is that okay?

I'm assuming the overlap will be unavoidable. For these essays I've listed out my employment in short blurbs, including information that I did not mention in the primary. The "collegiate EC" space is very small, so my blurb is very brief.

One question about the final essay: "What challenges do you expect to arise from living and working in a complex urban environment? How will you meet them? (Words: 300)"

Are they referring to personal dilemmas (ex: losing your MetroCard, NYC rent, the general overwhelmed-ness of living in a big city) or are they asking about health care problems attributed to urban centers (language barriers, huge population of urban poor, difficult access to health care)?
 
I'd love to attend Columbia ... definitely love everything I've read and heard about it.
Fire up for columbia. I just graduated here as part of the new curriculum, if you have questions always feel free to ask me.
Hi mmmcdowe, I think I'm in a sense tossing money away as I'm a bit below the 10% stats-line, but I do think I'm a unique applicant (or at least an applicant with some unique activities). Does Columbia try to look at all applications or do you feel there is a strict LizzyM score type of cutoff?
 
One question about the final essay: "What challenges do you expect to arise from living and working in a complex urban environment? How will you meet them? (Words: 300)"

Are they referring to personal dilemmas (ex: losing your MetroCard, NYC rent, the general overwhelmed-ness of living in a big city) or are they asking about health care problems attributed to urban centers (language barriers, huge population of urban poor, difficult access to health care)?

My sense is that either way would be appropriate. I wrote about personal challenges and opportunities for growth presented by living in the city, but your best bet might be to write whatever feels most genuine and meaningful to you. I figure that secondaries give you the chance to express who you are and what you're about, and so whatever lets you do so is likely the way to go.
 
Another secondary question.

For the "Did you work during college...?" question, are you guys just listing the employment and your duties, or actually expanding upon what you learned etc.?

They do give 300 words for this one, but all they explicity ask is "did you work?", "How many hours per week", and "what did you do"
 
Another secondary question.

For the "Did you work during college...?" question, are you guys just listing the employment and your duties, or actually expanding upon what you learned etc.?

They do give 300 words for this one, but all they explicity ask is "did you work?", "How many hours per week", and "what did you do"
I've already put ~2000 characters towards my employment during school in the primary, so I'm just going to be pretty basic about it for this prompt.
 
I've already put ~2000 characters towards my employment during school in the primary, so I'm just going to be pretty basic about it for this prompt.

That's what I'm thinking, didn't really want to say the same stuff all over again.
 
For the old secondary application does anyone know if this question refers to the experiences I will do in the upcoming year before I attend medical school or if I took a year off to apply and will take another off to interview?
If you have graduated from college, please briefly summarize what you have done in the interim.Words Remaining:300

I am unsure why it is using the words "have done" when currently I have not done anything that I will be doing in the interim year after graduation and medical school.
 
For the old secondary application does anyone know if this question refers to the experiences I will do in the upcoming year before I attend medical school or if I took a year off to apply and will take another off to interview?
If you have graduated from college, please briefly summarize what you have done in the interim.Words Remaining:300

I am unsure why it is using the words "have done" when currently I have not done anything that I will be doing in the interim year after graduation and medical school.

I generally assume this type prompt has two parts: 1) what activities are you continuing from the previous year(s), 2) what activities do you have shovel ready for the next year, even if they have not actually started. Obviously, your ability to discuss 2) will be limited if you have just started or are soon starting something, but you "have done" something related to that activity if you have it lined up and ready to go. Talking about it to any extent that you can would leave a better impression than leaving the prompt blank or saying you have done nothing yet.
 
For old secondary application questions like
"4. Did you work for compensation during college during the year or the summer?Yes No
If so, what did you do? How many hours a week did you work?Words Remaining:300"

am I suppose to simple answer those technical questions or am I suppose to extrapolate why this experience would make me into a good doctor like I did for the AMCAS experience section?
 
For old secondary application questions like
"4. Did you work for compensation during college during the year or the summer?Yes No
If so, what did you do? How many hours a week did you work?Words Remaining:300"

am I suppose to simple answer those technical questions or am I suppose to extrapolate why this experience would make me into a good doctor like I did for the AMCAS experience section?
If you've already done so for your work experience on AMCAS, I would just answer simply.


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Piggybacking on asroth's question,
"4. Did you work for compensation during college during the year or the summer?Yes No
If so, what did you do? How many hours a week did you work?Words Remaining:300"


...is this just asking about those typical random side-jobs one gets to get some spare income? I did tutoring for a summer and then one academic year, but I also did research for pay during summers (the profe$$or was good at getting grants to fund us). Should I be talking about the research or just the tutoring jobs? I imagine work for compensation is more of something like working at the library or in the dining hall, but just want to double check.
 
Piggybacking on asroth's question,
"4. Did you work for compensation during college during the year or the summer?Yes No
If so, what did you do? How many hours a week did you work?Words Remaining:300"


...is this just asking about those typical random side-jobs one gets to get some spare income? I did tutoring for a summer and then one academic year, but I also did research for pay during summers (the profe$$or was good at getting grants to fund us). Should I be talking about the research or just the tutoring jobs? I imagine work for compensation is more of something like working at the library or in the dining hall, but just want to double check.

I would say both but stress the research because that seems more important.
 
Fire up for columbia. I just graduated here as part of the new curriculum, if you have questions always feel free to ask me.

when considering the secondary question that asks if you took time off during your undergraduate studies, to summarize your reasons... would applicants that went on a gap year program between high school and college be expected to answer this question or is it only for applicants that took a break between starting and finishing college?
 
Fire up for columbia. I just graduated here as part of the new curriculum, if you have questions always feel free to ask me.

hey mmmcdowe, another quick question... when answering the secondary question about extracurriculars would this only include traditional extracurriculars (like clubs within your school), or does it also include activities like research experiences, volunteering, TAing, working at a consulting firm and working on your own startup?
 
Columbia is my dream school, let's go!
 
Secondary received today pre-verification. The essays are the same as last year
 
Does the passport style photo actually have to have a white background and such? Or can it just be any headshot that's cropped to a passport photo style size?
 
Essays:
What challenges do you expect to arise from living and working in a complex urban environment? How will you meet them? (300 words)
Is there anything else you would like us to know? (300 words)
Please describe your parents' occupations: (100 characters)
If your last name is often mispronounced, how do you pronounce it? (250 words)
Have you previously applied to P&S? (Yes/No) If yes, briefly summarize your activities since your previous application:
If you took time off from your undergraduate studies, please briefly summarize your reasons for doing so. (250 words)
In what collegiate extracurriculars did you engage? (400 characters)
Did you work for compensation during college during the year or the summer? (Yes/No) If so, what did you do? How many hours a week did you work? (300 words)
 
Secondary received! Absolute dream school!
 
I just received my secondary but it says my login is incorrect even though I double checked. Even tried copying/pasting. Anyone have a problem with this?
 
Can any current students speak to the merits of the Columbia-Bassett program vs. the regular MD program?
 
Received that secondary ... but what's with that passport picture requirement? Just wants to see who can clean up for a head shot?

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Regarding the question "If you have graduated from college, please briefly summarize what you have done in the interim." ...how do you suggest we approach it? (I graduated this past May) As of now, I've been seeing if I can get a research gig for the academic year, but I'm also going for a month to Asia as part of a scholarship I won. I don't know when I will hear back about the research, but I do know what I'll be doing for July and August...should I just put that, or wait until I hear back from the PIs? I guess waiting won't kill me, but should probably submit the secondary by mid-late July, yeah?
 
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Has anyone submitted this application? I think it's glitched. It asks me to add a parent and sibling name, as well as parent info and one record, but the questions they're referring to don't even show up under basic info on my application.
 
Has anyone submitted this application? I think it's glitched. It asks me to add a parent and sibling name, as well as parent info and one record, but the questions they're referring to don't even show up under basic info on my application.

I haven't submitted yet, the application won't save the box marked for "Do you have a parent/sibling who graduated from Columbia". It shows that it is incomplete when I try to submit. Anyone else have this problem?
 
I haven't submitted yet, the application won't save the box marked for "Do you have a parent/sibling who graduated from Columbia". It shows that it is incomplete when I try to submit. Anyone else have this problem?

I had this problem but what I did was select "yes" for the do you have an parent or sibling question and then you'll notice it brings up like 6 other sub-questions. Mark them all no then switch the top back to "no" and it will work fine after that.
 
I had this problem but what I did was select "yes" for the do you have an parent or sibling question and then you'll notice it brings up like 6 other sub-questions. Mark them all no then switch the top back to "no" and it will work fine after that.

you're my hero thanks. now I didn't even need to email support 🙂
 
Received that secondary ... but what's with that passport picture requirement? Just wants to see who can clean up for a head shot?

EDIT:
Regarding the question "If you have graduated from college, please briefly summarize what you have done in the interim." ...how do you suggest we approach it? (I graduated this past May) As of now, I've been seeing if I can get a research gig for the academic year, but I'm also going for a month to Asia as part of a scholarship I won. I don't know when I will hear back about the research, but I do know what I'll be doing for July and August...should I just put that, or wait until I hear back from the PIs? I guess waiting won't kill me, but should probably submit the secondary by mid-late July, yeah?
I'm just using a portrait photo I've been using for all the secondaries. It's not a passport photo per se but it's a straight on shot. I can't imagine they'll care. Also yeah I would just state what plans you already do have made and what options you're pursuing for afterward.
 
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