2015-2016 University of North Carolina - Chapel Hill Application Thread

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I also had a mini heart attack when getting that email. Glad I'm not alone!
 
Yeah at first I was all
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and then I read it and now I'm just
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Can anyone confirm the rejection wave hit? I've only seen pre interview ppl post on it.
 
So if our apps are still being reviewed, what does that entail? Are they getting in touch with our Activity/ECs contacts? Or just discussing our essays? Not really sure how the review process works...
 
So if our apps are still being reviewed, what does that entail? Are they getting in touch with our Activity/ECs contacts? Or just discussing our essays? Not really sure how the review process works...
This is just a guess but I would assume that if they have already brought you up for review but had not made a final decision that they would re-review you at a later date OR you are in line to be reviewed. Perhaps it also includes applicants who have been placed on the waitlist...? I interviewed 1/6 so I doubt my file has come up yet. I think the e-mail is more to reassure us that our application has not been lost in some black void in space.
 
Omg. I was rejected last week but just got an email from UNC to fill out the FAFSA... salt in my wounds.
 
Any recent OOS II? I'm slowly losing hope, but I'll take it as a good sign that I wasn't rejected. Complete in August.

I'm in the same boat too. Completed in August and not a peep. Can we still say no news is good news at this point?
 
Are all of these rejections coming pre-interview, or were there more post-interview rejections??
I interviewed in October OOS and it is torture waiting so long!
 
Hey guys, according to the UNC website, it seems that for OOS they only interview 120 of the roughly 4,000 that apply. Can anyone comment on whether that is correct or not? Seems a bit low as most other schools interview around 10% of applicants.
 
Hey guys, according to the UNC website, it seems that for OOS they only interview 120 of the roughly 4,000 that apply. Can anyone comment on whether that is correct or not? Seems a bit low as most other schools interview around 10% of applicants.

Yep, UNC is incredibly brutal on OOS applicants. Of the 180 students that matriculate every year, ~160 of those are IS and only ~20 spots are available for OOS.
 
Hey guys, according to the UNC website, it seems that for OOS they only interview 120 of the roughly 4,000 that apply. Can anyone comment on whether that is correct or not? Seems a bit low as most other schools interview around 10% of applicants.
FWIW, on my interview day they said that they had over 6,000 OOS applications this year but they're sticking to the 120 interviews.
 
FWIW, on my interview day they said that they had over 6,000 OOS applications this year but they're sticking to the 120 interviews.
Yikes. OOS has a 2% chance of even getting an interview this year. Even extremely well-qualified candidates would have trouble with those odds, so don't feel bad!
 
What are the chances of getting in instate?
If proportions and number of interviews remain the same with the increase of applicants, a little under 50% of in-state applicants will get an interview. Of those, between 30%-45% will probably get an offer. I don't know off the top of my head how many UNC accepts, but it's not likely to be more than 1.5x their number of matriculants (students tend to hang on to those seats once they get them).
 
They brag about their 77% yield I believe, not sure if that's IS, OOS, or overall tho
 
Longtime lurker here. On the topic of numbers, does anyone know how many in-state applicants there are this year and how many got interviews?
 
If proportions and number of interviews remain the same with the increase of applicants, a little under 50% of in-state applicants will get an interview. Of those, between 30%-45% will probably get an offer. I don't know off the top of my head how many UNC accepts, but it's not likely to be more than 1.5x their number of matriculants (students tend to hang on to those seats once they get them).

Thanks for the analysis. So I was super bored and decided to count the number of people interviewed based on the calendar where I scheduled my interview. There was a total of 426 spots... (Both instate and out of state). Is it even possible that they only interviewed 426 people? I must have counted wrong...
 
Thanks for the analysis. So I was super bored and decided to count the number of people interviewed based on the calendar where I scheduled my interview. There was a total of 426 spots... (Both instate and out of state). Is it even possible that they only interviewed 426 people? I must have counted wrong...

Yeah it seems a little low. Seems like I heard around 450 for IS interviews, and then maybe like 120 OOS. These are guesses (somewhat educated) though
 
Longtime lurker here. On the topic of numbers, does anyone know how many in-state applicants there are this year and how many got interviews?

When I interviewed back in November, they said that around 8000 applied. Around 2000 IS and 6000 OOS.
 
Thanks for the analysis. So I was super bored and decided to count the number of people interviewed based on the calendar where I scheduled my interview. There was a total of 426 spots... (Both instate and out of state). Is it even possible that they only interviewed 426 people? I must have counted wrong...

Yeah it seems a little low. Seems like I heard around 450 for IS interviews, and then maybe like 120 OOS. These are guesses (somewhat educated) though

Well they should be interviewing every MWF through the end of February, right? So if those numbers are correct, that would leave about 144 spots for 15 more interview days. Seems about right, no?
 
Sooooo given all this I'm thinkin an II at this point is not likely haha

*tears out hair*
*slams 10 shots at TOPO*
*jumps off TOPO patio*
 
A friend called Admissions and was told they filled their interview slots for the year back in November and the only new invites would be if someone withdrew. She's a trustworthy person so I trust the info but hopefully things have changed.
 
Hey everyone! Congrats to those accepted 🙂 I'm putting my school list together and I was told that in order to gain admissions you MUST have had direct patient contact experience....not just volunteering in a clinical setting or shadowing experience but have actual responsibility dealing with patients (be certified, a nurse or something). Is that true? I researched the statistics and based on the ages of last year's accepted student body, it seems as if there wasn't a whole lot of time between undergrad and medical school to become certified and work for a while to get that experience...

Can anyone (maybe someone who got accepted) confirm this info? That would be very helpful. I have a gap year to fill...but no funds for certifications and probably not much time to actually gain experience until the next cycle opens... Thanks a bunch in advance!!!
 
Hey everyone! Congrats to those accepted 🙂 I'm putting my school list together and I was told that in order to gain admissions you MUST have had direct patient contact experience....not just volunteering in a clinical setting or shadowing experience but have actual responsibility dealing with patients (be certified, a nurse or something). Is that true? I researched the statistics and based on the ages of last year's accepted student body, it seems as if there wasn't a whole lot of time between undergrad and medical school to become certified and work for a while to get that experience...

Can anyone (maybe someone who got accepted) confirm this info? That would be very helpful. I have a gap year to fill...but no funds for certifications and probably not much time to actually gain experience until the next cycle opens... Thanks a bunch in advance!!!
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Yeah I applied this year and was accepted at a few schools (like UNC) and got an II at an ivy (tho i didnt attend interview). I have had about 100 hours of volunteering in a hospital and about 100 shadowing hours. that said, those numbers are low and I had other things to really make my application different.

It REALLY looks good to have some CNA experience. You could also be a medical scribe. These things pay, so borrowing money for a certification may pay off financially. It certainly makes your application a lot stronger.

In sum: no. you don't NEED it. It's no guarantee. It will make your application a hell of a lot stronger.
That makes perfect sense! The way it was described to me was more like you had no chance if you haven't had "serious responsibility" for a patient before. I'm volunteering at a hospital as well, and maybe a certification as a scribe isn't such a bad idea. I don't think it takes that long and shouldn't be too pricey either..
 
Meeting tomorrow I guess (today, technically). From what I've gathered so far, I haven't seen any IS post-interview rejections yet and there doesn't seem to be a consistent method of notification of acceptance - some emails (this appears to be new), some phone calls, some solely by mail, some on Monday evenings, some later on in the week. Anyway, good luck to everybody and I hope we see a lot of movement tomorrow.
 
Hey everyone! Congrats to those accepted 🙂 I'm putting my school list together and I was told that in order to gain admissions you MUST have had direct patient contact experience....not just volunteering in a clinical setting or shadowing experience but have actual responsibility dealing with patients (be certified, a nurse or something). Is that true? I researched the statistics and based on the ages of last year's accepted student body, it seems as if there wasn't a whole lot of time between undergrad and medical school to become certified and work for a while to get that experience...

Can anyone (maybe someone who got accepted) confirm this info? That would be very helpful. I have a gap year to fill...but no funds for certifications and probably not much time to actually gain experience until the next cycle opens... Thanks a bunch in advance!!!
I have been told by several adcoms in various interviews that direct patient contact is almost a must... but they DO include physician shadowing and volunteer experience, which doesn't take certifications. I know boat loads of people who have gotten in that way. Sure certifications may boost your application, but they'd rather have someone who has had actual physician shadowing to know what the role of a physician actually is (scribes are really good for that too), vs like a few months of CNA experience with little to no physician contact.

Hope this helps.
 
I have been told by several adcoms in various interviews that direct patient contact is almost a must... but they DO include physician shadowing and volunteer experience, which doesn't take certifications. I know boat loads of people who have gotten in that way. Sure certifications may boost your application, but they'd rather have someone who has had actual physician shadowing to know what the role of a physician actually is (scribes are really good for that too), vs like a few months of CNA experience with little to no physician contact.

Hope this helps.

Thank you! I'm glad you mentioned that shadowing is included. I do have plenty of it, and one of the doctors I shadowed let me participate (as much as possible within legal boundaries) in consults. So I did have direct patient contact but from what I was told it doesn't count because technically, I wasn't in charge...not mainly responsible for the patient. I think I will try to get a certification as a scribe, shadow more and cross fingers 🙂
 
Thank you! I'm glad you mentioned that shadowing is included. I do have plenty of it, and one of the doctors I shadowed let me participate (as much as possible within legal boundaries) in consults. So I did have direct patient contact but from what I was told it doesn't count because technically, I wasn't in charge...not mainly responsible for the patient. I think I will try to get a certification as a scribe, shadow more and cross fingers 🙂

Working as a scribe is great experience, so go for it. But scribes are in no way responsible for the patient--you're just taking notes. Shadowing physicians in different fields is still extremely valuable because all fields of medicine are not alike and it will show interest and diversity in your understanding of medicine (a scribe in the ED will not see the same scenarios, challenges and obstacles as in internal medicine, orthopedics or pain management--all are equally valuable).

If you're looking for 'direct' patient contact where you are truly responsible for their care, EMT is also a very good route. With that certification you can also work as a med tech. Not only does it show commitment to serving others, but it builds technical skills and critical thinking in care, demonstrates teamwork, and shows that you are not afraid to get your hands on people, all while learning to communicate with patients. While it does not involve working directly under the supervision of a physician, it is more than changing bed sheets, which isn't a bad thing at all (meaning that it is more relevant to providing actual medical care).

There is no magic recipe. It sounds like you're doing fine. Just get involved in ways that are meaningful to you because checking off boxes will not cut it during an interview; they want to hear about the why behind your motivations and experiences too. Bottom line, make it meaningful to you, write about it in your application and talk about it in your interview. You will not stand out doing what every other pre-med is doing, but by showing thoughtfulness, reflection and growth. Be unique, be yourself and show them why medicine is right for you! Good luck, you'll do great!!
 
Meeting tomorrow I guess (today, technically). From what I've gathered so far, I haven't seen any IS post-interview rejections yet and there doesn't seem to be a consistent method of notification of acceptance - some emails (this appears to be new), some phone calls, some solely by mail, some on Monday evenings, some later on in the week. Anyway, good luck to everybody and I hope we see a lot of movement tomorrow.
No IS post-interview rejections yet? Damn that makes my chances of being accepted even smaller now.... interviewed and havent heard from then in 3 months. Anybody knows when or if they reject post-interviewed IS applicants?
 
No IS post-interview rejections yet? Damn that makes my chances of being accepted even smaller now.... interviewed and havent heard from then in 3 months. Anybody knows when or if they reject post-interviewed IS applicants?

Pretty certain there has been post interview instate rejections. I know for sure that there was one person earlier this month in this thread. Also, your chances of getting in are still very good! 40-50%! It seems like UNC is being extra slow this year. 3 months might just mean that you will hear back today! Good luck!!
 
There was a rumor that they over accepted last year pretty early so maybe that's why they are being a bit slower
 
Working as a scribe is great experience, so go for it. But scribes are in no way responsible for the patient--you're just taking notes. Shadowing physicians in different fields is still extremely valuable because all fields of medicine are not alike and it will show interest and diversity in your understanding of medicine (a scribe in the ED will not see the same scenarios, challenges and obstacles as in internal medicine, orthopedics or pain management--all are equally valuable).

If you're looking for 'direct' patient contact where you are truly responsible for their care, EMT is also a very good route. With that certification you can also work as a med tech. Not only does it show commitment to serving others, but it builds technical skills and critical thinking in care, demonstrates teamwork, and shows that you are not afraid to get your hands on people, all while learning to communicate with patients. While it does not involve working directly under the supervision of a physician, it is more than changing bed sheets, which isn't a bad thing at all (meaning that it is more relevant to providing actual medical care).

There is no magic recipe. It sounds like you're doing fine. Just get involved in ways that are meaningful to you because checking off boxes will not cut it during an interview; they want to hear about the why behind your motivations and experiences too. Bottom line, make it meaningful to you, write about it in your application and talk about it in your interview. You will not stand out doing what every other pre-med is doing, but by showing thoughtfulness, reflection and growth. Be unique, be yourself and show them why medicine is right for you! Good luck, you'll do great!!
Thank you for your kind advice, @Medbound40 ! I have some reflecting to do to figure out what I really want to do. It's hard to sell something you're not convinced of 😉 I know I'm a bad liar so I won't even try to do something just to check off a box lol
 
That makes perfect sense! The way it was described to me was more like you had no chance if you haven't had "serious responsibility" for a patient before. I'm volunteering at a hospital as well, and maybe a certification as a scribe isn't such a bad idea. I don't think it takes that long and shouldn't be too pricey either..

A couple years ago I interviewed at UNC and was not accepted. I was told, quite specifically by someone at the UNC admissions office, that although patient contact is good, they want patient contact with commitment and responsibility. To show this commitment, it looks very very good if you have some sort of certification and work in that field directly with patients. She strongly suggested getting a CNA or EMT certification. Another person who is on the admissions committee also told me that the certification doesn't really impress them unless you utilize it.

So there you have it. Though I'm sure if you have an otherwise strong application, you can sort of get away with shadowing and indirect medical volunteering. But for those of us who are throwing a hail mary in terms of GPA or MCAT, touching/smelling/getting thrown up on by patients is necessary (and will be necessary at some point anyway). 🙂
 
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