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  1. Lucca

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    Please state your reasons for applying to Creighton University School of Medicine. (2000 characters)

    How will you use your specific attributes and experiences to reinforce the Creighton University School of Medicine Mission? (2000 characters)

    Please describe your current activities/employment if you are not currently enrolled as a fulltime student. (2000 characters)

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    Hey I've got kind of a predicament here. Creighton requires 2 sci 1 non sci letters from schools who do not write packets (mine does not.) I am an engineering major who came in with a lot of AP, and I kid you not, have only taken physics, chem, math, bio, and engineering courses. I literally do not have a non science prof to ask for a letter. What do I do?
     
  4. Écureuil

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    I think that the best thing to do would be to call the Office of Admissions to talk about your situation, they'll have the best answers for you. Another thing to note would be that prior to matriculation Creighton requires two English courses (and I'm not sure if AP credit will count towards it). They might be able to work something out for your LoR situation, but it's best to get the advice from them rather than any of us speculating, hopefully it will work out though!
     
  5. McNerdy

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    Yeah I second this approach. Give admissions a call and explain your situation. Creighton has the nicest, most genuine and helpful admissions staff I have personally every encountered and I am sure they will be able to sort you out.

    However I do believe, and could absolutely be wrong, that engineering courses are not "Science" as classified by bcpm. As such if you were true to course classification, and can get a letter from an engineering course that you didnt label as BCPM, than I think you should be fine.
     
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    Anyone else get an email about the MD/PhD program but no secondary? C'mmon man.
     
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    I did as well. In the email they noted having received my primary as well.
     
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    just received the secondary! good luck guys :)
     
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    I got both.
     
  14. TFredrick

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    Just my secondary now as well
     
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    @Lucca @gyngyn

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    How will you use your specific attributes and experiences to reinforce the Creighton University School of Medicine Mission? (2000 characters)

    Please describe your current activities/employment if you are not currently enrolled as a fulltime student. (2000 characters)
     
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    secondary received!
     
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    What a tease this morning w the spam then secondary lol
     
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    Since this school has a faith based mission, do you think they'd care more about the institutional action I listed on my AMCAS than other schools? Typical freshman story where I got a little too drunk and my friends and I got written up for being too loud in the dorms and drinking. Don't even have a record on my file or anything, but I felt it best to play it safe and put tell them anyway since I had to write an essay for it.
    The secondary asks to basically restate what I put in my primary about this incident so idk how much it'll hurt my chances and if I should even apply. Thoughts?
     
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    Secondary received today! Good luck everybody!
     
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    I believe you just need to take those classes by the time you matriculate


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    I was in a similar position last year, and the IA wasn't brought up at my interview nor did it seem to be held against me. I would not worry about it! The fact that it was a one-time problem that hasn't re-occurred in recent years show that you learned from it and that it shouldn't be a concern for the Office of Admissions.
    Your anatomy course might be satisfactory for fulfilling the requirements, but I would still check with Creighton to see what they think of your situation. If you do need to take a physiology course, they might allow you to take a course prior to matriculation (spring or summer semester) at your local college. It's always best to call and ask to see what they actually think though! I wouldn't let it discourage you from applying, unless you think your money is best spent elsewhere at another school.
     
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    I've decided not to complete the secondary because I would have to take Physiology and Anatomy before June 1st and because I honestly cannot see myself living in Omaha. I should have considered those things before sending a primary, but no big deal. Now I'm cutting my losses.

    Can anyone convince me to send it in anyway?
     
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    Why not Omaha?
     
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    I've been living in big coastal cities my entire life. Omaha is landlocked and relatively small and I think I would go mad.
     
  25. McNerdy

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    Ill take a crack at it because I chose Creighton over several other medical schools in much larger cities and have lived in larger cities my entire life.
    1. Creighton faculty is outstanding. This was the first medical school I interviewed at where I truly felt like they cared. Any and all questions were returned immediately, my interviews were more so like conversations. I was asked maybe 2 minutes of questions and spent the rest of the time just talking about life. So right from the get go I felt like it wasn't just this school that tried to crank out doctors, they tried to foster you as a individual. One of the few direct questions I was asked was what can Creighton due to ensure I succeed and achieve my dream of becoming a physician which kinda blew me away.

    2. Kinda a continuation but the people are INCREDIBLE in Omaha. Literally the nicest people I have ever met. I can't count the number of times I got free food and such during my visit because the restaurant owner/manager wanted to treat me/ be inviting. Orzi pizza (which is awesome) literally gave me like $35.00 to celebrate my coming to Omaha. Even after the freebees stopped, its such an incredible change in culture from where I was from.

    3. Academically its a pretty outstanding school for its relatively modest gpa/mcat scores. They've just invested over 100 million in renewing their medical facilities so everything will be state of the art. They have their own hospitals and don't "share" really with other schools which is the case in big cities like Miami and chicago and such. 40 students a year have the option to go to st. josephs in phoenix arizona which has one of the top rated neurological/neurosurgical programs in the world and is ranked above places like yale and cedars sinai hospital in LA. If you look at their match list, they tend to match very competitively every year.

    YOU AREN't GRADED. or at least to any significant extent. They have honors for the top few students, but everyone can pass. so you don't have to worry about grades, or fake Pass schools that actually have grades they just label them as Honors, high pass, pass, etc.

    Most classes aren't mandatory. While most students will go the first semester due to the timing of anatomy lab/lecture 90% of classes aren't mandatory and all lectures are recorded.

    4. Omaha is actually awesome. Its incredibly cheap to live in and has a great social scene. My total cost of living (food+apartment+extras) is less than just the rent of the schools I was looking at in big cities. Omaha has an awesome bar/foodie culture. It is very not commercialized so if you want a burger you don't go to mcdonalds or some crap, you can go to a bar or restaurant that sells REAL food. Legit, I've been to every major city in the East coast and I've never eaten such good food before. As far as other things to do, Creighton Basketball is crazy big (they play in a stadium and receive a turnout that rivals most NBA teams). They host the college baseball world series every year. Swimming olympic trials will be held in Omaha for the 2020 olympics. Major musicians often come through Omaha as well. They have an incredible zoo (i believe it's the top in the U.S. or dang close to it). If you like to be outside (which would be a nice change of pace coming from a big city) Omaha has ton's of green space to enjoy the beauty of nature. They beautiful parks throughout the city including right in the heart of downtown Omaha. If you crave the commercialism, you can go 10 minutes west just past University of Nebraska Omaha and find it.
    Essentially, yes Omaha is small but it's just big enough to offer everything you need. I mean it does have 900k people.

    5. If there is anything Omaha doesn't offer, Kansa city is just a 3 hour drive and you can have professional soccer, football, baseball, etc.

    These were some of the major reasons I personally chose Omaha and creighton over schools in bigger cities.
     
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    Thanks for taking the time to write that. I'll definitely give it some more consideration. It sounds better than I thought.
     
  27. McNerdy

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    No worries. Omaha and Creighton have their own pro's and con's. All I know is, whenever I hear about my friends med schools, even at some "top tier places," I'm actually happy I chose Creighton.

    Another thing I forgot to address, was their religious affiliation. For some this is big, especially if they are devote. For others its a big downside because they think they're going to be in school with a bunch of bible thumpers preaching fire and brimstone.
    I'd say Creighton administration is incredible about walking the line between jesuit belief incorporation and a secular education. What I mean by this is that jesuit influence will be present but will in no way be forced upon you. I think the largest extent is that during the study of healthcare ethics, you also learn the catholic churches positions, but this is taught in addition to a largely secular viewpoint. There is a "church" on campus but you aren't required to ever go for service (there is a cadaver memorial service held but thats more out of respect to the donor and their family). They host several different types of worship including non-catholic. There is also a Chaplain who is really non-confrontational. You won't be questioned about your faith, he's more just there if you ever want to talk and keeps snacks and hot chocolate.

    The vibe of the school is like "Are you catholic/christian cool we can help you develop that" or "your not catholic/christian? cool your still a person so we aren't going to treat you any differently." At least thus has been my experience.

    Enough with my rambling and Good luck with your apps!
     
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    if i'm waiting for a second mcat score to be released on the 18th, should i go ahead and submit my secondary application?
     
  29. McNerdy

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    I could be wrong, but I sincerely doubt that submitting your app before the mcat release would affect your chances in any way. Schools are alerted to your mcat status so they know another score is on the way. The fact that the exam score is only 9 days away reaffirms this belief because why wouldn't they wait 9 days to make a judgement? If your committed to applying to Creighton Med just submit.
     
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    You guys were both right! After a quick call to a very nice lady on the other end of the phone, they said they would accept an engineering prof.
     
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    Is anyone else's portal not letting them save their essays? I have tried multiple times and save the essay page individually but when I go to the final submit page it tells me my essays are missing... did anyone else experience this? Thanks!
     
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    Hm that's weird. Maybe try calling admissions? If it's just happening now, there might be a bug/too many people using the website now.
     
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    Secondary submitted!
     
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    @McNerdy is there a good way to abbreviate Creighton University School of Medicine? CUSOM? I need to save for character space haha.

    Also, do you experience a lot of the Jesuit influence in the program? I.e. are there mandatory classes/readings in addition? Also, can you speak to the diversity of Omaha? Is it big enough to have urban pockets? Does the school have outreaches/programs to both urban and local rural populations? I am odd in that I want to work with both lol.
     
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    Hey man, so I'll do my best to address each question. I'm an incoming 1st year so my answers may not be as developed as say a 2nd or 3rd year but I will do my best.

    I don't know if there's an official way to abbreviate it but I just checked my secondaries and I did CUSOM. I'm not sure if this is the "official" but Obviously it must have been alright.

    As far as Jesuit influence yes there is some, but from my understanding it's not overbearing or anything that's really out there . They don't teach you creationism and that Jesus is just going to cure someone's cancer so they don't need chemotherapy.

    An example of how Jesuit beliefs would be incorporated can be seen with your ethics class. It is a fully comprehensive ethics course that is (from my understanding) largely secular. There is however a portion where they touch on medical ethics according to the Catholic Church. This Jesuit material is taught in addition to standard material, not in place of.

    Omaha is relatively diverse pending your understanding of "diverse"

    For example according to some of my friends going To Miami schools, an area isn't diverse if over 50% of the city is white.

    Omaha, like the rest of the US is predominately nonhispanic White however there are definitely non-white ethnic/religious/LGBT minorities as well. If you walk around Omaha you can find food options for Chinese, Vietnamese, Hispanic, and everything else. I believe the class is typically nonhispanic white and Asian, but I believe this is more of a de facto occurrence than any type of deliberate racism as their class profile often coincides with demographic makeup of the Midwest region/California.

    Yes there are some "urban pockets" but it's not like A massive city where there is little China and little Cuba and such (at least not that I know about). There are definitely areas of the city (about 10 minutes both of campus) which tend to be more socioeconomically disadvantaged and more "diverse" than other areas.

    As far as outreach goes, I'd encourage you to look up the Magis clinic. That's a free clinic run by Creighton that offers an multispecialty care within Omaha. So this is probably the biggest "urban" outreach I know of and is one of the biggest/landmark programs cusom does.

    I don't know if any rural (largely cause I'm not interested of it and haven't sought it out at all), but I imagine there's something and if not, you can always start a student organization.

    There are also the CURA mission trips that students take so if international outreach is important there's that.

    Hopefully I answered your questions but feel free to ask more.
     
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    I'm a current M2, and I think I can answer some questions you have about CUSOM (Yeah, that's our abbreviation lol).

    The only Jesuit influence I've experienced so far is in ethics. They do tell you what they consider is OK and not OK in their Christian hospitals (obviously, as a Christian institution, they are pro-life). They don't force this down your throat though. They try to make it more of a discussion than them telling you what you NEED to believe, which is important. Everything can be viewed from different angles. Other than Ethics, you do have to attend the memorial service for your cadaver at the end of your first year, which is held in the church. It's not so much a religious experience as it is just them saying really nice speeches and acknowledging the sacrifice that the cadavers and their families have made. It was quite lovely. CUSOM doesn't have preference, or really care much, about your religious affiliation, but they do just want you to be a loving, caring human being, which is the most important thing.

    There are sparse mandatory classes. Small group sessions (maybe once a week or every other week for an hour or two) and a few classes have a mandatory presentation. It's safe to say I don't go to class lol. I prefer going at my own pace (2x speed) at home. They know class isn't for everyone. It usually has to be very important for it to be mandatory (like a guest speaker, grand rounds, or patient panel).

    In terms of diversity, Omaha has a rich population of people, with quite a bit of diversity and a lot of ma and pa restaurants and bars that reflect that. I did a lot of tours for the school this past year for med applicants, and they were always a mixed bag of people from different backgrounds, and it was great. There are A LOT of people from California lol. That's not necessarily a bad thing.

    The school does offer a lllloooottt of clinical outreach experience, not so much during your first semester since you're just learning how to function, but there are three clinics you can work with: Magis Clinic, Healing Gift, and Porto Clinic. I was lucky enough to do each of them, but I did Healing Gift the most. You're allowed the option to do rotations in rural medicine too, if you choose so in 3rd year. Also, during your summer break, you can do their scholarship (2,500$) program in rural medicine in NE through the Family Medicine association. There is also CURA, which allows you to travel outside of the US. It's good stuff.

    Overall, I really love Creighton, and I NEVER EVEVEVEVEVEVER would have expected to end up here initially, but I am so glad I did (originally from a big city). I was like "yeah, sure, I'll apply here", but then I was blown away by them and was so happy when I got in. If you're on the fence of applying, I would highly recommend you finish that secondary app.
     
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    @McNerdy @MedCat9 Awesome thanks for the answers! I'll put CUSOM. Yeah the more I researched Creighton for the secondaries the more awesome it looked. Definitelythink Omaha has the diversity with the urban clinics and it's nice to know they have some rural outreach too (small town kid here). Their clinicals look like they should be awesome at the CUMC and Bergan Mercy.
     
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    I called admissions about Physiology because I don't have that credit either, they said I could take an online course from certain schools and it would work. The lady on the phone said something about taking it through San Diego State I believe.
     
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    Glad I submitted my primary! Thanks for this. :)
     
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    No prob! If you (or anyone else) have questions about CUSOM down the line about general things or about your interview, feel free to ask here or in a message. If I'm online, I'd be happy to answer them. Good luck to everyone!
     
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    Is anyone else still waiting for the Creighton Secondary? I got the MD/PhD email, but have not received the secondary yet! :(
     
  43. Do you guys know if its 2.7 or 4 for credit hours if the class was taken at a quarter system? Also, for the course name, do we enter it as it appears on the AMCAS (With abbreviations)?
     
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    Did anyone else get an invitation to apply to their MD/PhD program?
     
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    I'm pretty sure I got the same email the day I received the secondary
     
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    Does Creighton pre-screen for secondary. How how many days after verified you received secondary.
     
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    Submitted my secondary and only got an email confirming payment. Does Creighton send out an email confirming that your application is complete?
     
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    Yup. I got mine 2 days after the payment email.
     
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    Finally got complete email
     

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