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lochamp said:
I believe the interviews are via Skype since Second Look Day is the same for all 3 campuses.
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usernamesaredumb said:
Makes sense. Thanks!
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Yeah Skype interviews week of April 9th. Decisions are released April 16th. (For IMED)
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I called regarding interviews for UMED since I was not placed at the Chicago campus. She said that if we are chosen for an interview, we would attend Second Look in Chicago, however she still wants us to RSVP for Second Look at our currently placed campus in case that we are not chosen for an interview. She doesn't know when we are going to be notified of interviews and recommended emailing UMED directly. I hope this helps!
 
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scrubsandsteths said:
I called regarding interviews for UMED since I was not placed at the Chicago campus. She said that if we are chosen for an interview, we would attend Second Look in Chicago, however she still wants us to RSVP for Second Look at our currently placed campus in case that we are not chosen for an interview. She doesn't know when we are going to be notified of interviews and recommended emailing UMED directly. I hope this helps!
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Tom&Jerry said:
An invite to interview?
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Would it be savage to sneak out of Loyola's second look day to do the UMED interview via skype?
 
usernamesaredumb said:
I wouldnt go there if I was admitted to UIC, so no lol.
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well i'm placed at the rockford campus right now, so only going to uic if i get into umed ergo chicago. just curious why would you say you wouldn't go there? cost?
 
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monspubis10 said:
well i'm placed at the rockford campus right now, so only going to uic if i get into umed ergo chicago. just curious why would you say you wouldn't go there? cost?
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Cost, location, rank.

UIC also has a huge network of alumni and is generally really well respected. I don't know if that's true for loyola.
 
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usernamesaredumb said:
Cost, location, rank.

UIC also has a huge network of alumni and is generally really well respected. I don't know if that's true for loyola.
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i've been told by highly respected docs that loyola is better for ortho and neurosurgery, but haven't talked to too many folks outside of those specialties yet. i feel like students are happier and friendlier at loyola, but the uic's location in the medical district is clutch. idk.....
 
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i've been told by highly respected docs that loyola is better for ortho and neurosurgery, but haven't talked to too many folks outside of those specialties yet. i feel like students are happier and friendlier at loyola, but the uic's location in the medical district is clutch. idk.....
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"i've been told by highly respected docs that loyola is better for ortho and neurosurgery"

Yea idk about that.
 
usernamesaredumb said:
"i've been told by highly respected docs that loyola is better for ortho and neurosurgery"

Yea idk about that.
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My neighbor did Loyola post-bacc and Northwestern for med and residency, and he told me to go to UIC. He said it's well-respected, a number of Northwestern residency spots go to UIC students, and that ultimately the big name of NU didn't matter nearly as much, but the in-state tuition would have been everything as an attending in academic medicine (he's still at Northwestern).
 
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usernamesaredumb said:
I'm not saying you're wrong. I just don't understand how or why.
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Loyola, Rush, and UIC are very comparable in terms of multiple factors. The faculty, patient population you will see, prep for boards, ability to achieve specialty of choice, etc. There are a few key differences:

1) Rush & Loyola, being private institutions, provide more "comfortable" conditions for their students. This means more free lunches, special lectures, possible better technology (or quicker to jump on), etc. For these things, you end up paying roughly 18k a year more in tuition.

2) Rush and & Loyola have smaller classes than UIC-Chicago, so probably a slightly better faculty to student ratio, for whatever that counts. Since so much training and attention goes into molding an MD, it may be that being at Rush (class size 140) might be better than being at UIC Chicago (class size ~200). Although UIC Rockford and UIC Peoria offer more intimate training with student N = ~60 per campus (with even more individual attention than Rush or LUC could provide).

3) Rush and UIC are involved in a lot of dedicated outreach work on the near west side of Chicago. Although Rush has a great community engagement office and global health program, in this regard I believe UIC's dedicated Urban med and Global med programs provide better and more formalized experience if those realms interest you.

4) Comparing Loyola and UIC-Chicago match numbers for 2017, you can see UIC has a slightly higher Primary care tilt, but specialist numbers are fairly comaporable. Additionally, Rockford and Peoria students typically score and match slightly higher on USMLE than UIC-Chicago:

UIC:
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Loyola:

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Long story short. Loyola and/or Rush end up costing about $80,000 in raw dollars more than UIC over the course of 4 years. If you are taking out loans, and ascribe to the rough 3:1 calculation. That ends up being $240,000 when you actually pay it all back by year 10 of being an attending.

In my opinion, $80,000, let alone $240,000 is not worth the marginally increased level of student comfort you may get at Rush/LUC vs UIC. All other factors are equal enough to balance out.
 
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DJKhaled3000 said:
Loyola, Rush, and UIC are very comparable in terms of multiple factors. The faculty, patient population you will see, prep for boards, ability to achieve specialty of choice, etc. There are a few key differences:

1) Rush & Loyola, being private institutions, provide more "comfortable" conditions for their students. This means more free lunches, special lectures, possible better technology (or quicker to jump on), etc. For these things, you end up paying roughly 18k a year more in tuition.

2) Rush and & Loyola have smaller classes than UIC-Chicago, so probably a slightly better faculty to student ratio, for whatever that counts. Since so much training and attention goes into molding an MD, it may be that being at Rush (class size 140) might be better than being at UIC Chicago (class size ~200). Although UIC Rockford and UIC Peoria offer more intimate training with student N = ~60 per campus (with even more individual attention than Rush or LUC could provide).

3) Rush and UIC are involved in a lot of dedicated outreach work on the near west side of Chicago. Although Rush has a great community engagement office and global health program, in this regard I believe UIC's dedicated Urban med and Global med programs provide better and more formalized experience if those realms interest you.

4) Comparing Loyola and UIC-Chicago match numbers for 2017, you can see UIC has a slightly higher Primary care tilt, but specialist numbers are fairly comaporable. Additionally, Rockford and Peoria students typically score and match slightly higher on USMLE than UIC-Chicago:

UIC:
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Loyola:

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Long story short. Loyola and/or Rush end up costing about $80,000 in raw dollars more than UIC over the course of 4 years. If you are taking out loans, and ascribe to the rough 3:1 calculation. That ends up being $240,000 when you actually pay it all back by year 10 of being an attending.

In my opinion, $80,000, let alone $240,000 is not worth the marginally increased level of student comfort you may get at Rush/LUC vs UIC. All other factors are equal enough to balance out.
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Super informative. Thanks again
 
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usernamesaredumb said:
Super informative. Thanks again
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No problem! I prefer more informed discussion with numbers and tables, as opposed to "I heard from". With no dis-respect to word of mouth, which can be important as well, these types of decisions have to be based off more concrete data.. you could almost say it is evidence based practice..
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One final point I forgot to make. If you are interested in research, UIC is probably the way to go. They are a flagship state university in a large state/city, and get lots of funding from NIH and other sources, leading to a preponderance of great researchers and projects. Here is a comparison of the NIH funding for the three schools:

Rank School of Medicine Award
50 UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS AT CHICAGO $82,084,578

66 RUSH UNIVERSITY MEDICAL CENTER $49,136,287

100 LOYOLA UNIVERSITY CHICAGO $13,267,557
 
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DJ Kahled, you're awesome thank you! was looking for more concrete data to help inform a decision. didn't mean to start a "he say-she say" snafu. that being said weighing $'s against intangibles is tough and requires good old judgment, which we've all been deemed reasonably equipped with if we're entrusted to become docs one day.
 
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monspubis10 said:
DJ Kahled, you're awesome thank you! was looking for more concrete data to help inform a decision. didn't mean to start a "he say-she say" snafu. that being said weighing $'s against intangibles is tough and requires good old judgment, which we've all been deemed reasonably equipped with if we're entrusted to become docs one day.
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Happy to help! I agree about $'s vs. intangibles. Furthermore, I have a few close peers who have attended/attend Loyola and UIC. By all accounts, Loyola appears to be the superior experience from the perspective of being a medical student. I also know of a couple of people who have gotten 10-20k a year scholarships from Loyola (for merit). You will be hard-pressed to gain any scholarships at UIC, unless you are URM (I believe they do offer some help to URMs). Anyway, if the price was equal, I would honestly recommend Loyola, but I personally have a hard time justifying the monetary difference if there is no scholarship. Of course to each his own. Either way, there might not be a sweeter choice in the world than being able to choose from two (or more) very good medical schools, so congrats on your accomplishment and good luck!
 
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chisox123987 said:
THank you! Do you know how soon after that meeting we'll find out accepted/waitlisted/rejected? Sorry haven't been following this thread too closely
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From what I heard, people who are accepted see a change in their portal later that day or the next and typically receive an email around 5PM the following day.
If you've been deferred, you won't see a change in your portal but should receive an email saying you are a deferred applicant.
From what I'm reading, I don't think that they have rejected anyone post-interview yet.
 
Anyone else signed up for the Castlebranch yet? I got requirements for clinical year 2017; we start in 2018, shouldn't it show clinical year 2018 instead?
 
StarPlatnium said:
Anyone else signed up for the Castlebranch yet? I got requirements for clinical year 2017; we start in 2018, shouldn't it show clinical year 2018 instead?
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I did, and yes I noticed that too. it looks to me as if it is a glitch in their system, the flu shot is mandatory and maybe it just keeps showing up every year..
 
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Anyone else signed up for the Castlebranch yet? I got requirements for clinical year 2017; we start in 2018, shouldn't it show clinical year 2018 instead?
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Yup, I think this is the same for everyone. They have a package they use from CB for every incoming M1 class and I think they wait until a certain date in the summer to reset the deadlines to the new year. I would not worry about the dates, and just work on getting those immunizations and titers in.

The flu shot is probably set-up to reset to the new year as well. You do not have to get a flu shoot for this season, but you will have to get one at the beginning of the academic year in August/Sept for the 2018-19 flu season.
 
Interview waitlist for UMed and sent in application day before deadline.
 
I must have wrote something pretty egregious to get rejected pre II for one of these programs lol. Whatever I´ll do me in med school.
 
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what is the difference between IMED, UMED, CEMED, AND GMED? Which one is the regular one, and are they still interviewing for regular admissions?
 
F4532 said:
what is the difference between IMED, UMED, CEMED, AND GMED? Which one is the regular one, and are they still interviewing for regular admissions?
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These are all special track programs that are available to admitted students via application. Seems like interviews for general admission are done at this point.
 
Got waitlisted for UMED. Sent my app in prior to receiving my Rockford campus placement. I do wonder if they are prioritizing Chicago placement candidates...

Also applied to GMED, which was more of a hysterical response to my campus placement, so I have less hope for that lol
 
Has anyone been able to log into castlebranch? If so what’s the login info? Also when is all this due. I don’t see any information on the sheet sent out.
 
they obviously have to tell us whether we're accepted to any of these programs before april 30, right??
 
UIC doing me dirty with a third deferral email... The "Status Update" subject line anxiety is real.
 
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Was anyone from the deferred list accepted today?
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Perhaps more importantly, has anyone been denied post interview yet?
 
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