2018-2019 University of Central Florida

[CES5]

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I got the email that said that NYA students can go and I sent an email back saying I'd be interested in going but have yet to hear any more details beyond that. I think it would be worth it if you would 100% go to this school if they gave you an offer (which I would). It's probably beneficial for meeting potential roommates and getting used to the campus again! I think this was only extended to the ppl in the top 1/2 of the top 1/3rd so your chances of getting off the NYA list are about as high as they can get.

 

[CES5]

Has anyone else from the "Not Yet Accepted" list been invited to Second Look? Just want to see if it is even reasonable to go given i havent gotten an acceptance and dont want to waste the money

see above I forgot to quote the initial post.

 

[SnP500]

I got the email that said that NYA students can go and I sent an email back saying I'd be interested in going but have yet to hear any more details beyond that. I think it would be worth it if you would 100% go to this school if they gave you an offer (which I would). It's probably beneficial for meeting potential roommates and getting used to the campus again! I think this was only extended to the ppl in the top 1/2 of the top 1/3rd so your chances of getting off the NYA list are about as high as they can get.

That’s odd. I’m on the NYA list and didn’t get any emails about second look. They said I was in a place where they always offer an acceptance based on previous years

 

[djsbaseball2014]

That’s odd. I’m on the NYA list and didn’t get any emails about second look. They said I was in a place where they always offer an acceptance based on previous years

Where are you at in the upper 1/3? Upper or lower half? i was in the upper half FWIW

 

[scrapy]

How much WL movement has there been since October?

 

[SnP500]

Where are you at in the upper 1/3? Upper or lower half? i was in the upper half FWIW

I’m in the lower half. I guess that makes sense

 

[angrytheanimal]

Does UCF offer merit scholarships or just need based?

 

[scrapy]

Does UCF offer merit scholarships or just need based?

Everyone gets some sort of fin aid that I believe is a combination of need and merit. OOS people get more.

The big question, however, is how much you'll get. There's no way to tell until you get the letter. I remember REL said IS people get $5-15k at most, and OOS people get $5-25k. Other than these ranges, people have also reported to have gotten nearly or entirely full tuition scholarships.

 

[ranne13]

Has anyone gotten their March Not Yet Accepted update? Getting antsy to know where I am now that UCF’s interviews are over.

 

[djsbaseball2014]

Has anyone gotten their March Not Yet Accepted update? Getting antsy to know where I am now that UCF’s interviews are over.

Only info i've gotten was an invite to 2nd look. Based off people's posts, im assuming they only invited the upper portion of the waitlist thus far. Kinda just want the acceptance already lol

 

[MDhopeful222222]

Any one else in the upper 1/2 of the upper 1/3 with no other acceptances? Wondering if I should plan on reapplying or count on UCF.

 

[scrapy]

Any one else in the upper 1/2 of the upper 1/3 with no other acceptances? Wondering if I should plan on reapplying or count on UCF.

I’ve been trying to inquire about WL movement this year at UCF. I’m sure that it’s changed in some way because of the traffic rules. Whether it’s changed for better or worse I’m unsure, and only REL would know

 

[REL]

I’ve been trying to inquire about WL movement this year at UCF. I’m sure that it’s changed in some way because of the traffic rules. Whether it’s changed for better or worse I’m unsure, and only REL would know

So there is never any wait list movement until sometime in the middle of April because we, like most MD programs over-admit during the interview cycle. This means that they have to lose the "over admit" numbers before they begin to activate the wait list. Make sense?

 

[REL]

Any one else in the upper 1/2 of the upper 1/3 with no other acceptances? Wondering if I should plan on reapplying or count on UCF.

Should not be a problem.

 

[scrapy]

Lastly can someone please be honest: were there no prelim matches in medicine or surgery this year whatsoever, or are they obfuscated into the internal medicine and general surgery sections of the match list?

 

[scrapy]

Lastly can someone please be honest: were there no prelim matches in medicine or surgery this year whatsoever, or are they obfuscated into the internal medicine and general surgery sections of the match list?

Never mind. Note to all: see column on the right for categorical vs prelim

 

[BunsenBeaker]

Never mind. Note to all: see column on the right for categorical vs prelim

Saw that after you asked... I wonder what “A” and “M” are.

 

[scrapy]

Whoa. New MSAR is out. UCF's last accepted median IS MCAT was 513. The OOS one was 515. Every school's MCAT median went up. GPA's in all categories (state, c/s) are above 3.8. US MD schools are no longer screwing around, thats for sure.

 

[SteyrFWB]

What class of students reflects the new MSAR result of 513 and all other listed data ?

Does it reflect the credential of UCF students who are finishing first year medicine now ? Or the most recent accepted students who are yet to start this fall?

 

[djsbaseball2014]

What class of students reflects the new MSAR result of 513 and all other listed data ?

Does it reflect the credential of UCF students who are finishing first year medicine now ? Or the most recent accepted students who are yet to start this fall?

Current M1's

 

[djsbaseball2014]

Don’t freak out. I have a 509 MCAT and I got an early interview date and was immediately accepted. Some of the SDN speculation can get to your head. Chill out and apply early.

I was just answering the person's question, I already applied this cycle, got an II and am now in the top portion of the waitlist

 

[scrapy]

Don’t freak out. I have a 509 MCAT and I got an early interview date and was immediately accepted. Some of the SDN speculation can get to your head. Chill out and apply early.

n = 1 homie

Also btw, IS vs OOS are different pools. I’m pretty sure that the OOS pool for UCF became a lot more competitive this year and last year, and it seems like a big portion of people on this thread are OOS

 

[SteyrFWB]

If 513 reflects the current M1, the entering class for this fall must be around 514 then.

UCF does not cut their BS/MD students any slack. Cutoff for UCF BMS BS/MD was 512, same as regular med entrant average.

That number is raised to 514 next year, must be a reflection of the actual MCAT of current fall starting class.

Everyone’s application carries much more merit than just scores.

But if you are whites , south / east Asians, scores less than 510 is really against you statistically .

 

[scrapy]

If 513 reflects the current M1, the entering class for this fall must be around 514 then.

UCF does not cut their BS/MD students any slack. Cutoff for UCF BMS BS/MD was 512, same as regular med entrant.

That number is raised to 514 next year, must be a reflection of the actual MCAT of current fall starting class.

Yeah, folks are better off not going for UCF BS/MD anymore. My sibling wanted to but decided against it because of that Mcat cutoff. I guess it’s not really a bad thing, I’ve seen these programs do more harm than good for their students at various schools. My family is stuck on whether to accept a bs/md for my brother or tough out the normal med school admissions in 2022+ (yikes)

 

[scrapy]

If 513 reflects the current M1, the entering class for this fall must be around 514 then.

UCF does not cut their BS/MD students any slack. Cutoff for UCF BMS BS/MD was 512, same as regular med entrant average.

That number is raised to 514 next year, must be a reflection of the actual MCAT of current fall starting class.

Everyone’s application carries much more merit than just scores.

But if you are whites , south / east Asians, scores less than 510 is really against you statistically .

Just a small caveat: SE Asians might be URM in FL schools.

 

[serenitym15]

How is the match potential here to competitive specialites outside of FL?

 

[SteyrFWB]

That is an asinine caveat.

UCF has highest proportion of Asians, especially south Asians, amongst all Florida schools.

In fact, it is one of highest in the country. It does not get any higher than that. Any higher, it becomes uncomfortably, too high.

 

[BunsenBeaker]

How is the match potential here to competitive specialites outside of FL?

2019 match list looked pretty good to me. Derm included Mayo MN & FL, EM to plenty of places outside FL (DC, ATL, +), Ortho to Vandy, 3 Plastics matches... depends on what you're looking for and where you want to go I guess.
https://med.ucf.edu/media/2019/03/Match-Results-by-Specialty-2019.pdf

 

[scrapy]

That is an asinine caveat.

UCF has highest proportion of Asians, especially south Asians, amongst all Florida schools.

In fact, it is one of highest in the country. It does not get any higher than that. Any higher, it becomes uncomfortably, too high.

1. I said might
2. Southeast Asians in particular are an underserved group in many areas of the US, due to their needs and relative underrepresentation of healthcare providers.

 

[scrapy]

@REL how is rotation site selection going to work in 2021 given that the Lake Nona Hospital should be built by then?

 

[angrytheanimal]

Everyone gets some sort of fin aid that I believe is a combination of need and merit. OOS people get more.

The big question, however, is how much you'll get. There's no way to tell until you get the letter. I remember REL said IS people get $5-15k at most, and OOS people get $5-25k. Other than these ranges, people have also reported to have gotten nearly or entirely full tuition scholarships.

@REL do you know when we might be hearing about potential aid, perhaps before the April 30th deadline?

 

[Seyeydnav]

@REL do you know when we might be hearing about potential aid, perhaps before the April 30th deadline?

In years past, this been in the last half of March I thought....thus really hopeful to hear in the very near future....like today or tomorrow even?

 

[scrapy]

Saw that after you asked... I wonder what “A” and “M” are.

A is advanced. I think that demarcates someone who already did a prelim somewhere else and is entering PGY-2. I'm not sure if its part of a guaranteed PGY-2 match or whether they re-matched after an unguaranteed prelim year

 

[REL]

If 513 reflects the current M1, the entering class for this fall must be around 514 then.

UCF does not cut their BS/MD students any slack. Cutoff for UCF BMS BS/MD was 512, same as regular med entrant average.

That number is raised to 514 next year, must be a reflection of the actual MCAT of current fall starting class.

Everyone’s application carries much more merit than just scores.

But if you are whites , south / east Asians, scores less than 510 is really against you statistically .

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Consider that the average metrics for those coming through the BS/MD Program over the last year are 517 MCAT and 3.95 GPA's the program is very alive and kickin'

We also DO NOT require those in this program to apply ONLY to UCF for MD School -- IF a BS/MD program student wants to go to an MD program that better suits their direction in life we want to provide them with the flexibility to do so. Unlike most similar programs we are always thinking of the student, not the program.

 

[REL]

How is the match potential here to competitive specialites outside of FL?

75% of our graduates match outside of Florida - we are happy with this because most of the best residencies are not located in Florida. We can do this because our charter is different than the other state programs here. That is also why we match the most students into the traditional nine most difficult specialties than any other program in Florida. Keep in mind that the specialty is chosen by the student, but also is influenced by the clinical experiences that they see while in the MD program. Make no mistake, we would love for our grads to stay here. That is why we have recently created over 350 of our own residencies here in Florida with another ~300 on the immediate horizon.

 

[REL]

@REL how is rotation site selection going to work in 2021 given that the Lake Nona Hospital should be built by then?

The UCF LN Hospital is slated to open by the end of 2020. IMHO it will be open and seeing patients by the time this next class enters their M3 year, but I do not see it as being ready for a large number of students to experience patient care there quite yet. I suspect that it will have a larger impact with each successive year. Still we would keep all of our other clinical facilities to ensure a very diversified training opportunities in a myriad of environments.

 

[REL]

@REL do you know when we might be hearing about potential aid, perhaps before the April 30th deadline?

The Scholarship Committee has been reviewing lots of files and I would anticipate that they will start releasing information incrementally very soon -- based on the past I anticipate that could begin any day now.....

 

[Typatt50]

@REL is UCF open to admssion deferment?

 

[The_Notorious_Not_MD]

75% of our graduates match outside of Florida - we are happy with this because most of the best residencies are not located in Florida. We can do this because our charter is different than the other state programs here. That is also why we match the most students into the traditional nine most difficult specialties than any other program in Florida. Keep in mind that the specialty is chosen by the student, but also is influenced by the clinical experiences that they see while in the MD program. Make no mistake, we would love for our grads to stay here. That is why we have recently created over 350 of our own residencies here in Florida with another ~300 on the immediate horizon.

Would you mind explaining how the charter is different? And how we might ask other schools if students are staying in state for residency by choice or by design? Thanks!

 

[scrapy]

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Consider that the average metrics for those coming through the BS/MD Program over the last year are 517 MCAT and 3.95 GPA's the program is very alive and kickin'

We also DO NOT require those in this program to apply ONLY to UCF for MD School -- IF a BS/MD program student wants to go to an MD program that better suits their direction in life we want to provide them with the flexibility to do so. Unlike most similar programs we are always thinking of the student, not the program.

Wow. Non-binding and the students are killing it. Your bs/md is quite an exemplar other bs/md programs in the US need to follow.

 

[REL]

@REL is UCF open to admssion deferment?

Yes, if good reason. This would be after acceptance.

 

[REL]

Would you mind explaining how the charter is different? And how we might ask other schools if students are staying in state for residency by choice or by design? Thanks!

The legislature approved UCF and FIU together back in the fall of 2006. All other state programs were approved with the idea of creating more physicians for our state. The governor approved UCF for the reason of diversifying the economic impact of our state. This meant that the Lake Nona Medical City and it's 7k acres were being created to become a top "go to" place for medical treatment that will become well known by the end of this century. Our job is not only to train medical students but to anchor this medical city and to attract health care partners from across the spectrum to collaborate for this to be a success. While it would be nice to keep the graduates in FL, it is even better to send them across the nation to showcase the strength of the program. The early results are stunning with 75% of our graduates leaving the state to many of the top residencies across the nation and Step/research metrics that the NRMP 3-year data says we are in the upper one-half of the upper quarter of all MD programs. The acreage has also been created to have many homes, health options, and a town center. We have just entered phase II that is the beginning of 4 million sq feet of retail, entertainment, and shopping immediately across the street from the COM. Our university hospital broke ground in October and will be available at the end of 2020 and we are currently refurbishing a large research building that will house the UCF Cancer Research and Pt care center adjacent to the new hospital. Our dean and leadership group have been together from the beginning and have worked hard with great vision to make all of this happen since our first entering class in 2009, a mere 10 years ago....and what is icing on the cake is our collaborative and fun student body are all part of our progress and are actively invested in all that we do. The Lake Nona Medical City, Nemours, VA, USTA Tennis, KPMG, Guidewell, Johnson & Johnson, UF research/pharmacy, and many others have all joined to begin this mega revenue stream to diversify our economy. And what is so cool is that this "ride" is just beginning!!

 

[SteyrFWB]

Can’t agree more, reputation of UCF rides on its graduates going out of state.

Last week, met an anesthesiologist ICU friend from MayoClinic, Rochester. He said he worked with an orthopedic resident from UCF. A thumb up, first class resident.

That is how reputation of UCF will spread around.

 

[The_Notorious_Not_MD]

The legislature approved UCF and FIU together back in the fall of 2006. All other state programs were approved with the idea of creating more physicians for our state. The governor approved UCF for the reason of diversifying the economic impact of our state. This meant that the Lake Nona Medical City and it's 7k acres were being created to become a top "go to" place for medical treatment that will become well known by the end of this century. Our job is not only to train medical students but to anchor this medical city and to attract health care partners from across the spectrum to collaborate for this to be a success. While it would be nice to keep the graduates in FL, it is even better to send them across the nation to showcase the strength of the program. The early results are stunning with 75% of our graduates leaving the state to many of the top residencies across the nation and Step/research metrics that the NRMP 3-year data says we are in the upper one-half of the upper quarter of all MD programs. The acreage has also been created to have many homes, health options, and a town center. We have just entered phase II that is the beginning of 4 million sq feet of retail, entertainment, and shopping immediately across the street from the COM. Our university hospital broke ground in October and will be available at the end of 2020 and we are currently refurbishing a large research building that will house the UCF Cancer Research and Pt care center adjacent to the new hospital. Our dean and leadership group have been together from the beginning and have worked hard with great vision to make all of this happen since our first entering class in 2009, a mere 10 years ago....and what is icing on the cake is our collaborative and fun student body are all part of our progress and are actively invested in all that we do. The Lake Nona Medical City, Nemours, VA, USTA Tennis, KPMG, Guidewell, Johnson & Johnson, UF research/pharmacy, and many others have all joined to begin this mega revenue stream to diversify our economy. And what is so cool is that this "ride" is just beginning!!

Thank you!

 

[Seyeydnav]

Received email today regarding financial/scholarship status; posted for future classes wondering when this might happen

 

[scrapy]

@REL what were the ranges for IS and OOS financial aid awards this year?

 

[REL]

@REL what were the ranges for IS and OOS financial aid awards this year?

Have no idea for this year. In the past it seems that the average for FL residents was around $6-7k with ranges from 2~20ish, non-FL was probably an average of about 15-16 with a range of 11-20? Thakfully this has been fairly consistent over the years. FWIW it's another bullit on the residency resume'.

 

[SnP500]

Technically, we don’t have to use the “plan to enroll” tool at all, correct? From my understanding, we just need to select “commit to enroll by the school-specific deadline, which is in late June or early July.

 

[ranne13]

Technically, we don’t have to use the “plan to enroll” tool at all, correct? From my understanding, we just need to select “commit to enroll by the school-specific deadline, which is in late June or early July.

I think that's correct. In the last Not Yet Accepted list update, Rel was saying that you need to "Commit" by 21 days prior to matriculation, not necessarily by April 30th. (But I'm already getting pressure from a different school to commit now, and they don't start until July, so that sucks)

 

[REL]

I think that's correct. In the last Not Yet Accepted list update, Rel was saying that you need to "Commit" by 21 days prior to matriculation, not necessarily by April 30th. (But I'm already getting pressure from a different school to commit now, and they don't start until July, so that sucks)

You are correct that PTE never needs to be used before April 30, and "can" be used after April 30 if you wish, although it still has limited meaning. Selecting CTE 21 days prior to matriculation is the general rule, although many MD program have chosen a date 30 days in advance of their matriculation date. If you feel like sharing the "pressure" school let me know. We are monitoring those programs who are not playing nice.