2018-2019 Waitlist Support Thread

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premed0755 said:
sorry if this was answered before I couldn't find anything about it. I just found out that my top choice is at class size right now. there can still be some movement as CTE deadline comes around though right? or is it basically over? @gyngyn
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Once a school reaches their target class size, WL activity will begin (when students are accepted to other schools they prefer).
 
ReturnToMed said:
so wait. Are you saying that the historical May period of WL movement will now be in June?
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For my DO school, June has always been the busiest WL month, and since MD schools are now in the DO world of Admissions thanks to the loss of the MAR, I'd venture to guess that you are correct.
 
What changed on your application to help your cycle more the second time?
medschoolzombie said:
N=1 here, but I reused mine and it worked out. I only made minor grammatical type changes to it and landed II at all the schools I interviewed at last time as well as several more
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ZFox said:
I know Pre-med advisors and other students tell me that SDN is poison and that I shouldn’t go on here, but honestly, given the craziness of this cycle, I would be more stressed out if not for this thread and adcoms, such as @gyngyn

I very much appreciate you all!
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I think the people who say this board is toxic need to grow some thick skin. Honestly, if one doesn’t ask dumb questions that can easily be answered from the stickies or google and not act like a fool on here they should be fine. I haven’t really read anything toxic or overly gunnery on the threads I frequent on here, so maybe I’m missing that stuff, but I doubt it.

If people can’t handle some harsh advice on here then they won’t be able to handle getting chewed out on rotations or when a patient tells them off.
 
Hi! I have been trying to find an answer to this on other forums but I haven't seen one answered about it. I am currently on the waitlist for a med school with no other acceptances and am trying to plan ahead for this next year. A friend and I want to move and get an apartment downtown in OKC (my current lease ends in June) for a potential gap year. I have had two interviews with a clinic to be their upcoming student medical intern for the next year and was thinking about pursuing a certificate in public health. If I were to sign a lease at an apartment and accept the job (if offered) then got an acceptance call, how should I handle this situation? I know you shouldn't pass up an offer, but if I don't know if I could financially afford to break a contract and start a new one in a different city. Would a med school flag that for future applications? Please share your opinions, I'm trying to get different opinions and perspectives.
 
BoomerSooner19! said:
Hi! I have been trying to find an answer to this on other forums but I haven't seen one answered about it. I am currently on the waitlist for a med school with no other acceptances and am trying to plan ahead for this next year. A friend and I want to move and get an apartment downtown in OKC (my current lease ends in June) for a potential gap year. I have had two interviews with a clinic to be their upcoming student medical intern for the next year and was thinking about pursuing a certificate in public health. If I were to sign a lease at an apartment and accept the job (if offered) then got an acceptance call, how should I handle this situation? I know you shouldn't pass up an offer, but if I don't know if I could financially afford to break a contract and start a new one in a different city. Would a med school flag that for future applications? Please share your opinions, I'm trying to get different opinions and perspectives.
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Unfortunately, med school admissions committees do not appear to be very sympathetic to applicants declining a medical school acceptance offer for financial reasons. Yes... this is very unfair to students of lower SES.

I would take the financial hit for the lease. I assume it's a $2000 security deposit.

Your next best alternative is declining the WL position and spending $5000 -$10,000 on application fees for a future cycle.
 
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ZFox said:
I know Pre-med advisors and other students tell me that SDN is poison and that I shouldn’t go on here, but honestly, given the craziness of this cycle, I would be more stressed out if not for this thread and adcoms, such as @gyngyn

I very much appreciate you all!
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Most of the people who tell you to avoid SDN are the ones giving terrible advice.
 
Hey everyone! For those of you who are waitlisted at dream school (or more preferred school) and are fortunate enough to have another acceptance, when will you start really moving forward with plans to go to your accepted school? Finding housing and booking flights/shipping cars, whatever needs to be done? I don’t have a ton of disposal income (very little actually) and this stuff cost quite a bit. I’ll need to make a west coast to east coast move and I’m trying to balance saving money (incase dream school calls) and preparing for my current acceptance. Thoughts? Thanks!
 
BoomerSooner19! said:
Hi! I have been trying to find an answer to this on other forums but I haven't seen one answered about it. I am currently on the waitlist for a med school with no other acceptances and am trying to plan ahead for this next year. A friend and I want to move and get an apartment downtown in OKC (my current lease ends in June) for a potential gap year. I have had two interviews with a clinic to be their upcoming student medical intern for the next year and was thinking about pursuing a certificate in public health. If I were to sign a lease at an apartment and accept the job (if offered) then got an acceptance call, how should I handle this situation? I know you shouldn't pass up an offer, but if I don't know if I could financially afford to break a contract and start a new one in a different city. Would a med school flag that for future applications? Please share your opinions, I'm trying to get different opinions and perspectives.
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Usually , after your lease ends , you can pay month to month for a little extra . For example ,In my apartment complex it is extra 300 a month , without renewing the lease . Talk to your management office to do that till August , when you know for sure if you are getting into Med school or not . This will help you avoid problems . Another option- put your stuff into storage , and get sublease for a month , or go to long term stay motel /hotel for a month . Might be cheaper than paying deposits and loosing them .
 
Been lurking in this thread, but going from sobbing in my room worried about how I'm going to piece together a reapplication to being absolutely over the moon with receiving two acceptances off of the waitlists in the span of one week is possibly one of the wildest emotional rollercoasters I've been on in a long while.

The process is an absolute dumpster fire this year, counting my blessings. Appreciate everyone here for the information and solidarity
 
futuredoc0307 said:
Really? Are majority of CTEs in June? Both of my WL schools are July 15 and July 25th.
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Cluster bias maybe. When you have a small sample size, you’re more likely to have extreme results. One of my acceptances was in June and the school I’m going to is in May. Several of my friends are going to schools with CTE dates in June.
 
@gyngyn I was wondering what your recommendation is on revamping work and activities for reapplicants. I've added the new experiences I've had but I'm not quite sure how to touch up the past experiences that have concluded (ie research, leadership, volunteering at my undergrad). Thanks for all the insights you've given on the forum!
 
I just got updated that my appeal for more financial aid at my accepted school didn’t go through. Should I update my waitlisted school about this since they’re much more affordable for me? The accepted school pretty much said I could defer or they could talk to the other schools I withdrew from... I sent a two page interest/update letter last Tuesday.
 
futuredoc0307 said:
Really? Are majority of CTEs in June? Both of my WL schools are July 15 and July 25th.
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I think most state school CTEs occur in June.

Students with PTEs at top schools often prefer their state school and then there is a trickle down effect.
 
WheelSpinner said:
@gyngyn I was wondering what your recommendation is on revamping work and activities for reapplicants. I've added the new experiences I've had but I'm not quite sure how to touch up the past experiences that have concluded (ie research, leadership, volunteering at my undergrad). Thanks for all the insights you've given on the forum!
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The PS should be worked on. Previous Work and Activities entries should just be reviewed for active voice and grammar.
 
medschoolzombie said:
N=1 here, but I reused mine and it worked out. I only made minor grammatical type changes to it and landed II at all the schools I interviewed at last time as well as several more
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n = 2, but I get what he’s saying. My guess is it may be a bit different for those that are reapplicants for a very specific reason (low MCAT). Could be wrong tho.
 
Does anyone know if I should upload my letter of intent to the secondary portal or should I email it to the admissions committee?
 
ClamShell said:
For some reason, Sunday’s are extremely depressing for me these days and I don’t know why.
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I don't think there is a need to be depressed. Whether you get in or you don't, I think we all have great potential and will make it to our respective goals as long as we continue stepping forward on our journey, learning, and growing. It is an honor being able to serve others, share their vulnerabilities, and to make a difference as a doctor. Whether we are in medical school this year or not, we should still appreciate our health and the valuable time we have by using it to gain more experience, learn more about patient care, contributing to research, enjoying life, or whatever pursuit that can make you a more impactful professional. Let's not waste any more time waiting for a decision that may or may not happen. That is out of our hands.

What we can do is continue reading, learning, experiencing, serving so that we further commit ourselves to our mission and putting ourselves closer to being the physician that we want to be. One day, we will be neck deep in science and clinicals and we won't have the same free time to explore and develop. Sitting and moping around is not what I would want my future physician to be doing at any point of their career, not that I am saying that what you or anyone else are doing, but that is what the process can bring us to. Live life to the fullest and appreciate each moment instead of letting systems, processes, and policies dictate our value and motivation to service and medicine for patients. There are always things we can be doing to be better providers and people regardless of the status and point of the journey. Keep going forward and trust that your growth and commitment will eventually get you where you want to be.
 
medngame said:
I just got updated that my appeal for more financial aid at my accepted school didn’t go through. Should I update my waitlisted school about this since they’re much more affordable for me? The accepted school pretty much said I could defer or they could talk to the other schools I withdrew from... I sent a two page interest/update letter last Tuesday.
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Would really appreciate some advice on this @gyngyn @wysdoc
 
gyngyn said:
That's my guess.
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I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, so please forgive me if the answer to this question is obvious, but, assuming there isn't a lot of messing around with people PTEing or CTEing multiple schools with no consequence, why do you think the upcoming CTE deadlines are going to cause a flood of activity? Why wouldn't it just be converting PTEs to CTEs? Is the answer that a significant number of schools have not implemented the post-4/30 PTE protocol, and there are a ton of people holding multiple acceptances that are invisible to adcoms because they have not been required to select PTE and reduce their acceptances to one? If so, this would be the simple answer to the puzzle going forward -- requiring all schools to require all acceptees to reduce to one after 4/30, by at least selecting PTE if not CTE. Is it really as simple as this, or am I missing something???? Thanks!!!
 
KnightDoc said:
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, so please forgive me if the answer to this question is obvious, but, assuming there isn't a lot of messing around with people PTEing or CTEing multiple schools with no consequence, why do you think the upcoming CTE deadlines are going to cause a flood of activity? Why wouldn't it just be converting PTEs to CTEs? Is the answer that a significant number of schools have not implemented the post-4/30 PTE protocol, and there are a ton of people holding multiple acceptances that are invisible to adcoms because they have not been required to select PTE and reduce their acceptances to one? If so, this would be the simple answer to the puzzle going forward -- requiring all schools to require all acceptees to reduce to one after 4/30, by at least selecting PTE if not CTE. Is it really as simple as this, or am I missing something???? Thanks!!!
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If half of accepted students are PTE (that's about what it is right now) and a school is approaching their desired class size, a school should either be accepting a lot of students from the waitlist...or accepting nobody from the waitlist. Nobody knows which is right.

Schools had no way of predicting whether draconian requirements for converting to CTE were necessary (or desirable).
 
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