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Interview invites extended based on date application completed (bar graph)
Oh interesting. Do you know where this map/chart is from? I know on MSAR UMich has a lot more states than the one listed on the map for matriculants
Umich just has their top 10 states represented on their map, which is why it is less. Comes from their admissions snapshot on their website
In that case, I might be cooked...
Name a point in a premed's life where he/she isn't cooked
Transferring careers does not count
Nah it’s top 10 states for number of people they offered an II to averaged over 5 application cycles. They really don’t care what state you’re from
I know they're rolling but I really can't imagine you would be at any significant disadvantage. It's still super early!
Only Mondays and all at once
Are you sure it’s all at once? Just this morning we got 7am and 8:30am…
Facts cuz I've heard all at once as well but I feel like they lowkey come at different times
They do not trickle in throughout the day. They send them in the morning and it’s an automated system. Don’t know about the discrepancy but they won’t send more after the initial set.
Rejections come separately but usually not until November
I got mine at 7:30 just rounded, the time discrepancy is likely different time zones
Won't hurt at all - congrats on the invite 🙂
Michigan doesn't read LORs until AFTER the interview
Thanks for sharing that
Thank you for letting me know! I feel like that is just another example of how much of a mystery this entire process is to me.
just curious as to why? i understand they already have a lot of material to work off of, but ig for me i feel like my letters could help me lol
Because, they want to form their own opinion of you when meeting you at an interview, then read the letters later to see if their impression is confirmed (or contradicted) by the letter writers. Reading the letters first could give a preconceived notion of you.
When put that way, I think that’s a really good system.
Totally agree.
Hmm, so since the deadline for submitting secondaries and supporting materials is December 1, do you think they should wait until after that to begin interviews?
Define "applications not complete" - I mean it's not like schools completely throw away your primary/secondary once you get an interview (AFAIK), so I think having everything together will help put things in context after the interview is done and final decisions are made. May also be biased, as someone who attends a large public school where strong LORs on the level of students at smaller, private schools are slightly hard to come by, so all in context.
By that same logic, these students have four months to not procrastinate and get them in before December 1st. What happens if a student says they have this certain letter, get an interview, then never get that letter? It rewards procrastination in ways that are unfair to applicants that reached out to professors months and up to a year in advance. The system is unfair, yes, but I understand why an applicant would feel this is special treatment.
LORs are part of the application and a student cannot be given an A without matching that requirement, so the application is by definition not complete without them.
I think attributing the LORs' submission times entirely to "procrastination" is also unfair. MANY variables could be at play that would delay someone's letter. For example, a professor at my school had a significant health scare last year in the late winter and could not write the letters he had promised the students working in his lab until after he recovered. If that letter were a crucial aspect of your application, it would be worth waiting a bit longer rather than finding an alternative and less impactful writer. That's just my opinion, though. This entire process is so subjective.
