Basics 2.0: The Hubris of the Champions - Game Thread

[dolphin106258]

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Ok well went back and looked and the voting yesterday really confuses me and I don't understand it. So nav was voting for genny, but as soon as strog voted for genny, he changed his vote to strog. This makes no sense to me. Then, after miz puts me in front out of self prez, genny moves to Msp, ensuring I couldn't vote miz and had to vote Msp to try and tie it. Then cubs vote out of seemingly nowhere, esp since he tried throwing shade at nav multiple times yesterday. That's a lot of voting weirdness that I don't understand right at the end of the day.

Yeah I also didn’t understand any of that waffling. Which makes me feel like voting for him again. But I haven’t decided.

 

[WildZoo]

Just got to this post, I am on surgery #5, must be nice only having two surgeries

Nah I was bored in the afternoon but not allowed to be on my phone until everyone else was done 🙁

 

[Animal Midwife]

Official Day 2 Lynch Tally
ziggy (3) - ziggy, Pippy, Coop
cubs () -

3/9
lynch close in ~3 hours

 

[Coopah]

@mizchiefmanaged you said you'd be around today and I still haven't heard from you at all

Why am I the only one trying to get people to talk jfc

 

[Coopah]

Because.

If you're village, you should have nothing to worry about, right? 🙂

That's completely crap and you know it. You should always have a reason behind potentially killing someone and that came out of the freaking blue.

 

[Coopah]

Just got to this post, I am on surgery #5, must be nice only having two surgeries

Jfc at this point I'm wondering why you signed up for a speed game if you were going to be THIS busy

 

[Coopah]

@genny would love to hear from you today besides apparently saying Miz is sketchy in PM

 

[Coopah]

@WildZoo are you back then? Want to place a vote?

 

[Coopah]

Am I talking to myself? Why yes, yes I am.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Yeah I also didn’t understand any of that waffling. Which makes me feel like voting for him again. But I haven’t decided.

Idk who "he" is. cubs or nav? Why not just vote now? You can always decide to change later, it's not like your vote is set in stone

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

unlynch zig
Lynch dubs

+1 vote shoot dubs

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

who to shoot? tally
Coopah - 1- Nav
Cubs - 1- coopah
Dubs - 2 - Pippy, zigjaz

4/9

 

[Coopah]

unlynch zig
Lynch dubs

+1 vote shoot dubs

Oh are you over your pity party now?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Oh are you over your pity party now?

Not entirely 🙁 but partially
I've seen how these things go... not going to put a lot of effort in when I'll be lynched regardless

 

[Coopah]

Not entirely 🙁 but partially
I've seen how these things go... not going to put a lot of effort in when I'll be lynched regardless

 

[Coopah]

Yup I'll check back in an hour or so maybe people will be here then

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Yup I'll check back in an hour or so maybe people will be here then

You ever think it's because wolves are happy to see a villager lynched? just saying

 

[Coopah]

You ever think it's because wolves are happy to see a villager lynched? just saying

Until five minutes ago YOU we're happy to see you lynched! Maybe of you decide to make an effort I'll reconsider but that was complete crap play earlier and not your logic or your even your switch to Ms. P which was sketchy no doubt, but the fact that you gave up said it was everyone else's fault and a rigged system and that you weren't going to play. K have fun buh-bye

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Until five minutes ago YOU we're happy to see you lynched! Maybe of you decide to make an effort I'll reconsider but that was complete crap play earlier and not your logic or your even your switch to Ms. P which was sketchy no doubt, but the fact that you gave up said it was everyone else's fault and a rigged system and that you weren't going to play. K have fun buh-bye

I never said anything was anyone else's fault or that the system is rigged? but ok whatever. Back to studying.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

@mizchiefmanaged you said you'd be around today and I still haven't heard from you at all

Why am I the only one trying to get people to talk jfc

You’ve heard from me like three separate times? Idk what else you want, I’ve answered all your questions.

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

@mizchiefmanaged your last statement in PM is not very team-oriented; I think you should reconsider.

Responded. I’m having a hard time justifying it since it has to potential to lead to a lot more village death.

 

[Coopah]

You’ve heard from me like three separate times? Idk what else you want, I’ve answered all your questions.

Sorry I'm a bit irritated at the fact no one is talking. I would like some active investigation, questioning and wolf hunting. Not just answering questions. I don't mean to be rude. How about a lynch vote, that'd be good too.

 

[dolphin106258]

Idk who "he" is. cubs or nav? Why not just vote now? You can always decide to change later, it's not like your vote is set in stone

Nav and okay fine I was hoping to see more thread progression and reread but I’ve had to drive to get my sister from college.

Lynch Nav

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

Sorry I'm a bit irritated at the fact no one is talking. I would like some active investigation, questioning and wolf hunting. Not just answering questions. I don't mean to be rude. How about a lynch vote, that'd be good too.

Noted. My play style is a lot more of lurking and reading for inconsistencies than active questioning but I’ll give it a go.

*******lynch Nav*******

I understand he’s busy with surgery and I 100% believe that. But play style seems off and not as analytical.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Nav and okay fine I was hoping to see more thread progression and reread but I’ve had to drive to get my sister from college.

Lynch Nav

Noted. My play style is a lot more of lurking and reading for inconsistencies than active questioning but I’ll give it a go.

*******lynch Nav*******

I understand he’s busy with surgery and I 100% believe that. But play style seems off and not as analytical.

and who do you vote to shoot?

 

[genny]

@genny would love to hear from you today besides apparently saying Miz is sketchy in PM

I did not say she is sketchy. I think I'm fine with Miz.

 

[genny]

Responded. I’m having a hard time justifying it since it has to potential to lead to a lot more village death.

I didn't interpret it that way at all. It doesn't have to be a villager.

 

[Coopah]

I did not say she is sketchy. I think I'm fine with Miz.

Good to know

 

[cubsrule4e]

Ok well went back and looked and the voting yesterday really confuses me and I don't understand it. So nav was voting for genny, but as soon as strog voted for genny, he changed his vote to strog. This makes no sense to me. Then, after miz puts me in front out of self prez, genny moves to Msp, ensuring I couldn't vote miz and had to vote Msp to try and tie it. Then cubs vote out of seemingly nowhere, esp since he tried throwing shade at nav multiple times yesterday. That's a lot of voting weirdness that I don't understand right at the end of the day.

To me MSP got sketchier and sketchier as the day progressed and then she voted me out of nowhere. At company crawfish boil, will try to find time to catch up shortly

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

I didn't interpret it that way at all. It doesn't have to be a villager.

It doesn’t, but that would require me having a good idea who the wolf/wolves are at that point. I guess I’ll see how I feel at the point before acting.

 

[genny]

I guess I’ll see how I feel at the point before acting.

You can say these things in PM to me. I'm responding on thread because I can't in PM.

 

[Navilly]

I mean it’s fair if you all want to Lynch me, I get it, I don’t have the time to analyze as thoroughly. You won’t get much more from me tonight, I just finished up my last surgery, it’s a 20 minute drive home and I am getting food on the way home since my wife refuses to cook for me despite me always cooking for her, so by the time I walk into my house it will be 30 minutes from Lynch close. I won’t catch up fully by close so it is what it is

 

[genny]

So, going back to an earlier comment I made, I think the loyal jailer should probably team up with the vigilante here for N2. Since the jailing's protection won't work on a wolf but will work on a villager, whoever has that role should jail the elected vigilante target.

The shot will go through if it is a wolf, and will fail if it is a villager.

Watcher (either the delayed N2 one or the JOAT) should also watch the target to confirm the shot is taken and the jailing happens.

If someone else gets shot instead, we will assume the vigilante is a wolf.

Watcher will be able to confirm the # of people who acted on the vig target, and should be able to verify who acted when we get to the role claiming stage. If the wrong # of people act on the voted vig target, then we know there is some funny business going on with that.

Thoughts?

I can think of a few ways it might fail, but don't really want to hand wolves ideas by laying all of those out. Regardless, I think it might be the best way to use these roles so that we are pseudo-seering. Vigilante target will get blocked if they are village, but they will be alive. There are only two wolves, so the maximum amount of checks on the system that can fail = two.

People should probably avoid role revealing imo until after tonight though, unless they are going down or there is some kind of paradoxical loop created (i.e. vig would be shooting him/herself, jailer would be jailing him/herself, etc).

What happens if the person we choose to shoot is the vig? Attempted suicide?

 

[WildZoo]

I was giving zig a chance to actually respond, plus was at dinner. but since she has decided to continue to ignore my questions and just retaliate instead

Lynch zig

 

[WildZoo]

I want to say shoot cubs but I can't quite bring myself to do that despite him barely playing the game right now. So will think on that. Might actually wait until after Lynch since we can post at night this time.

 

[WildZoo]

@mizchiefmanaged you said you'd be around today and I still haven't heard from you at all

Why am I the only one trying to get people to talk jfc

Because you have too much time on your hands 😉

 

[genny]

lynch cubs

 

[cubsrule4e]

Noted. My play style is a lot more of lurking and reading for inconsistencies than active questioning but I’ll give it a go.

*******lynch Nav*******

I understand he’s busy with surgery and I 100% believe that. But play style seems off and not as analytical.

This is what I was saying yesterday but got jumped for it. Wasn’t attacking his business just the inconsistencies in play

 

[cubsrule4e]

Genny is my other read but haven’t fully read to see if anything has changed my mind on her

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

What happens if the person we choose to shoot is the vig? Attempted suicide?

pretty sure they could just tell us they're the vig

I was giving zig a chance to actually respond, plus was at dinner. but since she has decided to continue to ignore my questions and just retaliate instead

Lynch zig

literally what questions!?!? you're not asking me anything. I can't read your mind. And lol it isn't retaliatory, I voted before you.

since my wife refuses to cook for me despite me always cooking for her

ngl this makes me wanna Lynch you lol

 

[WildZoo]

literally what questions!?!? you're not asking me anything. I can't read your mind. And lol it isn't retaliatory, I voted before you.

Why did you post about my activity outside of this thread, when if you actually looked at it you knew that the last time I had posted was long before day had opened here?

Why have you decided to focus so heavily on things outside of this game today?

I did though. I asked you why you misrepresented my activity and were focusing so much on things outside of this game, which is not something I've ever seen you do before. You never answered that. And if you actually read my posts I said I was reconsidering today.

And it's not like yesterday never happened. It's still retaliatory, and the only argument you've made is that I've made baseless arguments...while you've continued to ignore my posts.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

unlynch dubs
Lynch ziggy

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Why did you post about my activity outside of this thread, when if you actually looked at it you knew that the last time I had posted was long before day had opened here?

BECAUSE I DIDNT EVEN LOOK AT WHAT YOU POSTED. I LITERALLY JUST OPENED UP SDN, SAW YOU COMMENTED ON SOMETHING ELSE BUT NOT ON THE THREAD. IT'S NOT THAT DEEP. STOP MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL

Why have you decided to focus so heavily on things outside of this game today?

pretty sure I talked to dolphin about this, but you can just keep ignoring me, I don't really give a rats ass

 

[Animal Midwife]

Official Day 2 Lynch Tally
ziggy (4) - Pippy, Coop, dubz, ziggy
cubs (1) - genny
dubz () -
Nav (2) - dolphin, miz

7/9
lynch close in ~1 hour

@ziggyandjazzy you are in the lead

Missing: @cubsrule4e @Navilly

 

[WildZoo]

BECAUSE I DIDNT EVEN LOOK AT WHAT YOU POSTED. I LITERALLY JUST OPENED UP SDN, SAW YOU COMMENTED ON SOMETHING ELSE BUT NOT ON THE THREAD. IT'S NOT THAT DEEP. STOP MAKING A MOUNTAIN OUT OF A MOLEHILL

pretty sure I talked to dolphin about this, but you can just keep ignoring me, I don't really give a rats ass

I've only continued to ask because you continued to ignore it and then claim I never asked anything I can't read your mind. I don't understand why you have to fly off the handle about it when you're the one who has made it look more and more weird by ignoring it. I think it's pretty lame to throw shade without checking and then not even acknowledge that's what you were doing when questioned about it. Would have dropped it by now if you had taken two seconds to be like "Oh I didn't even really look at the post." But sure, caps lock and lynching yourself is necessary.

 

[dolphin106258]

Okay so I am probably gonna miss close because I’m driving back from Boone which is so annoying that I’m here this late but whatever. Also I am kinda on the fence about who to vote for to shoot. Who’s been voted for the vig kill so far cubs?

 

[mizchiefmanaged]

and who do you vote to shoot?

Not completely sure, WZ?

 

[WildZoo]

Okay so I am probably gonna miss close because I’m driving back from Boone which is so annoying that I’m here this late but whatever. Also I am kinda on the fence about who to vote for to shoot. Who’s been voted for the vig kill so far cubs?

I'm in the lead for that so far

 

[WildZoo]

who to shoot? tally
Coopah - 1- Nav
Cubs - 1- coopah
Dubs - 2 - Pippy, zigjaz

4/9

@dolphin106258

 

[cubsrule4e]

Dammit dubz, I almost responded to your PM.

##lynch genny##