Campbell University (CUSOM) DIscussion Thread 2012 - 2013

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Who else is applying here? I am :O. 3.26 science 3.36 science mcat TBD.
 
I'm interested in this school, but I'm wondering if it's worth it to apply since I'm a California resident. I have a 3.45 cumulative GPA and am taking the mcat July 6th. I went to a baptist school for college so I'm interested in this school since it's a christian school.
 
Their website says they have a bias towards north carolina and south eastern states but who knows for sure.
 
"Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences and cumulative grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2. The admissions process is competitive, and a higher grade point average (above 3.0) results in improved chances for acceptance. CUSOM places emphasis on the last 120 credit hours and on the science and required courses when choosing between competitive applicants. CUSOM also places emphasis on the applicant’s interview."

I thought this was a little strange since more established DO schools dont typically have this? Any thoughts on the applicant pool for campbell this cycle, on whether or not itll be competitive for a new school? My cum gpa is a 3.26 with a 3.36 science so I just barely make it to their 3.2, lol. It just seems a little strange since they have bias for NC and southeastern states
 
Cgpa =?= Overall Gpa
Min:3.0 =?= Min:3.2


Doesn't quite make sense. Anyway I think their min gpa will probably be a cutoff of 3.0, but if it is a 3.2 then they will suffer by having both low mcat averages and low enrollment as people with a 3.2+ and a high mcat will probably attend some other more established school instead. Not to mention NC has a ton of instate schools that really perfer their own students and have low stats as it is ( Brody is what? A 3.5/28-29?).

@Cole, go to a more established school, don't aim so low.
 
yeah im looking into a lot of schools, i was just a little surprised by this. The paragraph i copy/pasted from their site confuses me. Requiring at least a 3.2 cumulative? seems like a confident move by their part.
 
ColeSmalls said:
yeah im looking into a lot of schools, i was just a little surprised by this. The paragraph i copy/pasted from their site confuses me. Requiring at least a 3.2 cumulative? seems like a confident move by their part.
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Except they aren't say that. They are saying something contradictory, because they require a min Cumgpa of 3.0 and a overall gpa of 3.2. So unless the Overall Gpa is some sort of Frankenstiein gpa combining post-bacc gpa, grad gpa, etc. then a 3.2 is probably just a recommendation.
 
serenade said:
Except they aren't say that. They are saying something contradictory, because they require a min Cumgpa of 3.0 and a overall gpa of 3.2. So unless the Overall Gpa is some sort of Frankenstiein gpa combining post-bacc gpa, grad gpa, etc. then a 3.2 is probably just a recommendation.
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lol oh. that is super weird. ive never heard of a DO school doing that before.
 
serenade said:
Except they aren't say that. They are saying something contradictory, because they require a min Cumgpa of 3.0 and a overall gpa of 3.2. So unless the Overall Gpa is some sort of Frankenstiein gpa combining post-bacc gpa, grad gpa, etc. then a 3.2 is probably just a recommendation.
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That is odd since cGPA is synonymous with overall GPA...
 
ColeSmalls said:
"Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences and cumulative grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2. The admissions process is competitive, and a higher grade point average (above 3.0) results in improved chances for acceptance. CUSOM places emphasis on the last 120 credit hours and on the science and required courses when choosing between competitive applicants. CUSOM also places emphasis on the applicant’s interview."

I thought this was a little strange since more established DO schools dont typically have this? Any thoughts on the applicant pool for campbell this cycle, on whether or not itll be competitive for a new school? My cum gpa is a 3.26 with a 3.36 science so I just barely make it to their 3.2, lol. It just seems a little strange since they have bias for NC and southeastern states
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That is definitely a good news for me because by the time I apply I'll have over 250+ credit hrs from my BS, BA, MS, and PhD 😀
 
OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA
 
curt656 said:
OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA
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So, in that case, they do require a min cGPA of 3.2 for acceptance.
 
curt656 said:
OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA
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Then I expect half of the class to be not filled and the average mcat to be no higher than a 24.
 
I must apologize to OP. I pulled my info off of the AACOM website, and OP pulled off of CUSOM website. The CUSOM states "3.0 sciences and cumulative grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."

So, I would say that the CUSOM website has a typo and the AACOM is probably more accurate. Just take the word cumulative out of CUSOM's and it is the same.
 
curt656 said:
OP copied the words wrong. It states "Applicants should have achieved at least a 3.0 sciences/grade point average (GPA), on a 4.0 scale. The minimum overall GPA for acceptance is 3.2."



So, 3.0 sGPA, 3.2 cGPA
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i copied directly from their website?
 
FrkyBgStok said:
It's a brand new school and the only people that would realistically attend are those that are bound by geography, or couldn't get in anywhere else. Going to a brand new school is a bad idea.
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That's understandable, but Campbell is a reputable school and has decent pharmacy, law and divine schools.
 
FrkyBgStok said:
It's a brand new school and the only people that would realistically attend are those that are bound by geography, or couldn't get in anywhere else. Going to a brand new school is a bad idea.
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This. A student with a 3.3/25+ is going to potentially get into a school like LMU. LECOM, VCOM, etc. Generally by cutting out low gpa applicants with high mcats you really cut out a major audience. Furthermore again, NC has a lot of state schools including one with stats that are lower than most MD schools.
 
FrkyBgStok said:
It's a brand new school and the only people that would realistically attend are those that are bound by geography, or couldn't get in anywhere else. Going to a brand new school is a bad idea.
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and they have regional preference for NC residents and southeastern states.

so im super curious what ends up happening.
 
ColeSmalls said:
and they have regional preference for NC residents and southeastern states.

so im super curious what ends up happening.
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Yes they do, I'm from NC and the people I know who graduated from Campbell were all NC natives. 😉
 
ECU Pirate said:
That's understandable, but Campbell is a reputable school and has decent pharmacy, law and divine schools.
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Doesn't matter. The problem is that they don't have a med school. What happens if the prepare you for the boards incorrectly? You are the one screwed. it may be at Princeton, but the administration doesn't have the actual experience running that med school and that faculty.
 
FrkyBgStok said:
Doesn't matter. The problem is that they don't have a med school. What happens if the prepare you for the boards incorrectly? You are the one screwed. it may be at Princeton, but the administration doesn't have the actual experience running that med school and that faculty.
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Oh yeah that's true, I don't know where they're gonna find the hospitals for clinical rotations. A friend of mine is in the pharmacy school at Campbell and he just started his clinical last month, at a small nursing home, right next to a hospital, he doesn't even have the access to the hospital..which I was a bit surprised..
 
ColeSmalls said:
theyll have to accept a decent amount from south eastern states im sure.
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They also have a very...strict..dress code..and the school is in the middle of no where. There's a baptist church on campus though
 
ECU Pirate said:
That's understandable, but Campbell is a reputable school and has decent pharmacy, law and divine schools.
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I honestly can say that it does not sound like an impressive school or one that I would personally give the honor of having a medical school. And Pharmacy schools and Law schools are a dime a dozen.
 
serenade said:
I honestly can say that it does not sound like an impressive school or one that I would personally give the honor of having a medical school. And Pharmacy schools and Law schools are a dime a dozen.
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Campbell is not a bad school, it's reputable in the South, people who graduate from there tend to stay in the South..
 
ECU Pirate said:
Campbell is not a bad school, it's reputable in the South, people who graduate from there tend to stay in the South..
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I'm not saying it is bad, I'm just saying that the game of owning medical schools is not for small mid level colleges. It's for reputable research universities with huge endowments.
 
I feel that new(ish) schools kind of boast up their stats. I don't know why.

I live somewhat close to WCU, and everyone around here is convinced that if you don't have a 3.5 you'll be lucky to be granted an interview. Then a quick search online shows their average matriculant is well under 3.4. It's simply difficult to get ahold of consistent statistics for new schools. We won't know the average Campbell stats for 3+ years, I bet.

Anyway, back on track, Campbell has pretty high hopes for its first year class. I don't think they'll stay true to that, but at least they're shying away the 2.6 applicants.
 
DocFelt said:
I feel that new(ish) schools kind of boast up their stats. I don't know why.

I live somewhat close to WCU, and everyone around here is convinced that if you don't have a 3.5 you'll be lucky to be granted an interview. Then a quick search online shows their average matriculant is well under 3.4. It's simply difficult to get ahold of consistent statistics for new schools. We won't know the average Campbell stats for 3+ years, I bet.

Anyway, back on track, Campbell has pretty high hopes for its first year class. I don't think they'll stay true to that, but at least they're shying away the 2.6 applicants.
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The plethora of anecdotes do not create statistics.
 
Are they saying that an applicant with 3.18 cGPA, 3.5 sGPA and 29 MCAT will be auto rejected....If this is true, they will have a lot students with 3.2+ GPA and subpar MCAT score.
 
it appears that they are saying that, but i doubt that they will stick to it the first year. no one knows how they will do with admissions including them and the last thing that they want to do is under accept. And being that they know it is very risky going to a first year school, if I were them, I would accept at least 200 for a class of 150 and my waitlist would be three times the class. I wouldn't continue this once they can actually claim a baseline, but for the first year, i would be overly cautious. i suspect they will be as well.
 
FrkyBgStok said:
it appears that they are saying that, but i doubt that they will stick to it the first year. no one knows how they will do with admissions including them and the last thing that they want to do is under accept. And being that they know it is very risky going to a first year school, if I were them, I would accept at least 200 for a class of 150 and my waitlist would be three times the class. I wouldn't continue this once they can actually claim a baseline, but for the first year, i would be overly cautious. i suspect they will be as well.
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I think they want to accept students who are more likely to stay in NC and the South after graduation. There is always a high risk to attend a brand new school, and I think this applies to all kind of schools.
 
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where does it say that they favor southeastern states....damnit i hope i didnt waste my money applying
 
Mash43 said:
where does it say that they favor southeastern states....damnit i hope i didnt waste my money applying
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You can still apply, but you may check the acceptance ratio for OOS students for their pharmacy/law programs.
 
Mission Statement

The Mission of the Campbell University School of Osteopathic Medicine (CUSOM) is to educate and prepare community–based osteopathic physicians in a Christian environment to care for the rural and underserved populations in North Carolina, the Southeastern United States and the nation.
CUSOM faculty, staff and students values: Teamwork, leadership, professionalism, integrity, diversity, and the ethical treatment of all humanity.



http://www.campbell.edu/cusom/about-us/our-purposemission/




they make it sound like they like the southeastern states too. I think if they tried to accept most of their class from NC as well as a 3.2 min, that could be potentially bad.
 
I'd apply anyways, it's likely they will have a regional preference, but I don't think it will be any more than what other regional DO schools have which is around 50-70% in state. Certainly not TCOM's 90% rule.
 
UrshumMurshum said:
I'd apply anyways, it's likely they will have a regional preference, but I don't think it will be any more than what other regional DO schools have which is around 50-70% in state. Certainly not TCOM's 90% rule.
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It's a tough call since it's the only DO school in NC, and we have a like 16 public schools and 35 private schools. 😉
 
serenade said:
The plethora of anecdotes do not create statistics.
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The compiled average stats posted in the underdog thread is where I got that information. I then searched further and confirmed those stats for WCU.

Label it what you want, I guess. 🙄
 
DocFelt said:
The compiled average stats posted in the underdog thread is where I got that information. I then searched further and confirmed those stats for WCU.

Label it what you want, I guess. 🙄
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I label it convenience polling.
 
ColeSmalls said:
Mission Statement

The Mission of the Campbell University School of Osteopathic Medicine (CUSOM) is to educate and prepare community–based osteopathic physicians in a Christian environment to care for the rural and underserved populations in North Carolina, the Southeastern United States and the nation.
CUSOM faculty, staff and students values: Teamwork, leadership, professionalism, integrity, diversity, and the ethical treatment of all humanity.



http://www.campbell.edu/cusom/about-us/our-purposemission/



they make it sound like they like the southeastern states too. I think if they tried to accept most of their class from NC as well as a 3.2 min, that could be potentially bad.
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what does this mean exactly? i am just curious.
 
Campbell is a christian school i believe. Which is cool with me honestly, i know some people dont like this but I personally like religion. To each his own.
 
ColeSmalls said:
Campbell is a christian school i believe. Which is cool with me honestly, i know some people dont like this but I personally like religion. To each his own.
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I think a lot of schools are faith affiliated, which is fine as long as they don't require me to attend mass or church or have to sign a contract demanding I live a required life style or etc. What's important is that the school provides you many opportunities to do research, get double degrees, and get into whatever residency you want.
 
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