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@allieh8607 assuming you are blocker, who did you block last night and why? might help us rule one of the killers out

Also, based off the way allie came out with that info, it doesnt feel super wolfy. like if I was a blocker and I blocked someone on a night with no kill, I would understandably be suspicious of the person I blocked

point taken
I blocked Paws again. I know she was pretty angry about me doing it the first time, but I couldn't drop it. I needed to follow up on it, as I hope anyone else would have after a simultaneous block and no kill night.
 
Why do people think all of a sudden that wolves have brains smaller than a walnut?

Allie, if a wolf was blocked from doing a night kill...and they knew who the blocker was because you said it was you...

1) why do you think they would have the same blocked wolf attempt the kill again? That sounds like a good way to be caught again somehow

2) why are you alive this morning when 2 other roles -- one of whom appeared to be providing wolves with murky seering ammo -- are dead?
 
Analysis is sounding more village; wolfy dolphin rarely pulls lots of quotes.

Analysis of me saying hello to you? lol... still dont get why some people think theres some kind of meaning there, much less how it could be AI. Also not sure why it matters which post I responded to. I said before, the kata vote post was simply the most recent on the board from you so thats the one i responded to. But ok :shrug:
 
Why do people think all of a sudden that wolves have brains smaller than a walnut?

Allie, if a wolf was blocked from doing a night kill...and they knew who the blocker was because you said it was you...

1) why do you think they would have the same blocked wolf attempt the kill again? That sounds like a good way to be caught again somehow

2) why are you alive this morning when 2 other roles -- one of whom appeared to be providing wolves with murky seering ammo -- are dead?
1) I don't care if she didn't attempt the kill again, she may have had another ability that I could have blocked...that's not rocket science blocking mentality there
2) Good question and interesting that you've waited until 4pm to have that lightbulb moment
 
He's been here liking posts but not commenting, he's been sucking up to me a bit...I'm interested in some pressure there.

Ive been posting a lot today, giving reads and content, even if you might disagree with it. I gave a reads post and then the activity picked way up, so I was liking posts I agreed with/thought were funny instead of individually commenting on everything.
 
Analysis of me saying hello to you? lol... still dont get why some people think theres some kind of meaning there, much less how it could be AI. Also not sure why it matters which post I responded to. I said before, the kata vote post was simply the most recent on the board from you so thats the one i responded to. But ok :shrug:
I wasn't even really talking about that quote specifically, but now that you mention it, thanks for the reminder 😉

I was talking about that entire string of posts from dolphin sounding less regretful and more analytical.
 
They are here. Sorry for the length.

I think it was @ziggyandjazzy who said shes not a fan of the reincarnated player as a sub, and this is coming into play for me (maybe require an avatar change?). In regards to your mel suspicions I tend to agree with you on some of that, but I'm watching newcoop post and I'm subconsciously thinking she's still village coop (who i also inaccurately lynched). It's hard to purely objectively evaluate the quotes you pulled up and have them mesh in my mind with whats shes posting now and hows shes acting, though I do agree there is some fishiness to original ones you quoted.
 
So, did an iso after Ms P said I had always been on her wolf list, wasn't thrilled with the juxtaposition I see in these quotes --
As for my reads
I'm neutral towards pip right now.
Don't know what to make of Nav and his whole seer thing.
I'm leaning neutral to slightly wolfy for acan based on some things I've seen
Don't understand zigg/SAR
Have no read on Cubs
I'm neutral to slightly village on capri. This is subject to change pending her appearance today.
You've kind of always been
So I was neutral yesterday, but now I've always been at the top of the wolf list.

And then this...idk, I just found the first comment a bit off in the context of how she has been framing acanth's wolfiness recently:
The acan thing was bad from the get go. It made zero sense.
Acan posted 4 times this game. The reason they started gathering votes was because of last game. You were the first one to jump on. You gave no other reason other than the stunt they pulled last game.
So she's pressuring Barks for voting acanth there, and then by yesterday, is considering voting for acanth herself...but also thinks I am most wolfy today, while acanth is voting for me and has been pushing aggressively for me to die. Basically, her top read is getting pushed by one of her other top reads, and she's not voting for the one who is being pushed, even though I would probably be a pretty easy vote given the sentiments being tossed around.

So that's not really a logic flow that plays out beyond the surface progression, and I felt it was worth pointing out.
 
I think it was @ziggyandjazzy who said shes not a fan of the reincarnated player as a sub, and this is coming into play for me (maybe require an avatar change?). In regards to your mel suspicions I tend to agree with you on some of that, but I'm watching newcoop post and I'm subconsciously thinking she's still village coop (who i also inaccurately lynched). It's hard to purely objectively evaluate the quotes you pulled up and have them mesh in my mind with whats shes posting now and hows shes acting, though I do agree there is some fishiness to original ones you quoted.
I mean sure, it's potentially telling that AM wasn't subbed back in, because if they were drawing from dead people, she was the first villager dead. As in, she may have already had spoilers that Coop did not, and spoilers would not really matter if Coop was subbing back in for a wolf.

On the other hand, AM hates wolfing and Coop does not, so it may have been offered and declined.

Basically, there could be multiple options and therefore it's probably best not to use it.

Personally I'm trying to ignore those thoughts when they pop up, because I feel like @finnickthedog would hiss at me so bad for using mod choices for affiliation seering, and @Caiter92 seems like a kitten who might spit if asked to deal with this kind of silliness.
 
I mean sure, it's potentially telling that AM wasn't subbed back in, because if they were drawing from dead people, she was the first villager dead. As in, she may have already had spoilers that Coop did not, and spoilers would not really matter if Coop was subbing back in for a wolf.

On the other hand, AM hates wolfing and Coop does not, so it may have been offered and declined.

Basically, there could be multiple options and therefore it's probably best not to use it.

Personally I'm trying to ignore those thoughts when they pop up, because I feel like @finnickthedog would hiss at me so bad for using mod choices for affiliation seering, and @Caiter92 seems like a kitten who might spit if asked to deal with this kind of silliness.
If it helps I wasn't put in dead chat before I was subbed, so I think it must've been that
 
As for dolphin logic, I honestly can't say what Mel has been doing or why, but I think it was just a baffled villager move which we all do. Because I know Mel wouldn't kill AM and said as much before I died the first time.
 
As for dolphin logic, I honestly can't say what Mel has been doing or why, but I think it was just a baffled villager move which we all do. Because I know Mel wouldn't kill AM and said as much before I died the first time.
I don't think it's likely, but it's not impossible either. Mel might eventually do whatever, especially if people think he would never do it, and you're assuming he was even around to see the kill choice to begin with.

I mean, talk about things that should not grant people village cred...night kill choices are the most WIFOMy thing that exists.
 
As for dolphin logic, I honestly can't say what Mel has been doing or why, but I think it was just a baffled villager move which we all do. Because I know Mel wouldn't kill AM and said as much before I died the first time.
But what you’re referring to is the only thing that I said gives him village points the rest of the posts have nothing to do with baffled villager, they are strange interactions and votes. And yeah I would like to think Mel wouldn’t but I’m not going to use that in my determination of y’all.
 
So, did an iso after Ms P said I had always been on her wolf list, wasn't thrilled with the juxtaposition I see in these quotes --


So I was neutral yesterday, but now I've always been at the top of the wolf list.

And then this...idk, I just found the first comment a bit off in the context of how she has been framing acanth's wolfiness recently:


So she's pressuring Barks for voting acanth there, and then by yesterday, is considering voting for acanth herself...but also thinks I am most wolfy today, while acanth is voting for me and has been pushing aggressively for me to die. Basically, her top read is getting pushed by one of her other top reads, and she's not voting for the one who is being pushed, even though I would probably be a pretty easy vote given the sentiments being tossed around.

So that's not really a logic flow that plays out beyond the surface progression, and I felt it was worth pointing out.
I was going on about the acan lynch earlier because it had nothing to do with the game. I've explained this a thousand times.
 
Also @PippyPony. I'm not 100% sure about my wolf reads list but you're on it. You've always been, I just never announced it.
 
I blocked Paws again. I know she was pretty angry about me doing it the first time, but I couldn't drop it. I needed to follow up on it, as I hope anyone else would have after a simultaneous block and no kill night.
I don't like this
Kinda seems like you blocker her so then you could kill her :thinking:
2) why are you alive this morning when 2 other roles -- one of whom appeared to be providing wolves with murky seering ammo -- are dead?
I dont understand what you're trying to say here?

@capri1722 why like posts but not post anything on thread?

did capri open a PM with anyone?
 
Got an update from my partner
"Man I am done with ziggy today. Expresses his anal glands on the bed next to my face, flops over into it, and sticks his feet in my face. Dude smells like ****in Pigpen now. So god damn vile"
cats are lovely, aren't they?? 😍
 
I was going on about the acan lynch earlier because it had nothing to do with the game. I've explained this a thousand times.
I know that. I am commenting mostly about how you then had her as wolfy, but she's been gunning for me, who you apparently also have as wolfy.

Are we in the same pack? Do you think she's bussing me? If we're not in the same pack, who else is in there with one of us?
 
I dont understand what you're trying to say here?
I'm saying that if an outed village blocker blocked a wolf, and I was a wolf who had a double kill, I would kill that blocker so they didn't block a wolf again.

And even if they had blocked a villager, I would probably choose to kill that blocker over someone who was advocating for lynching a village power role based off of strange/unclear seering information. If I had a double kill attempt up my sleeve, I would DEFINITELY go for the blocker because presumably two targets can't be protected at once.

And if I knew about 3 power roles, then in my mind, Paws and Allie are the more dangerous ones vs. Nav. The more Nav talked about his results, the more information it gave wolves about who might have a power role and who doesn't, and he was lynching incorrectly based off of his push to lynch Paws. That's a double value add to the wolves. Triple value, if you consider that he would be a slam dunk lynch when his target flipped village.
 
Not like I think the wolves need any strategy help here because they are doing much better than we are while we're flopping around like a bunch of blind kittens, but you're welcome for my retroactive recommendations on kill target prioritization. #teamwolf
 
Also @PippyPony. I'm not 100% sure about my wolf reads list but you're on it. You've always been, I just never announced it.
Ok, well then I suggest you re-label the lists, because in that quote, you announced me under "Neutral" yesterday.

Gotta love the "not 100% sure but you're sure bad news" part. The only people who are 100% sure on wolf reads are wolves and affiliation seers.

Out of curiosity, do you remember what I said to acanth early yesterday about wolves sometimes finding loud villagers threatening?
 
Pippy
Allie
Barks
Possibly acan

Wait where did I go? 🙁

Also can someone tell me why it wouldn't make sense for allie as a wolf blocker to block paws on a night the wolves knew there wouldn't be any NKs to then be able to throw her under the bus the day after? Because the thought is putting her in my wolf list.
 
The more Nav talked about his results, the more information it gave wolves about who might have a power role and who doesn't, and he was lynching incorrectly based off of his push to lynch Paws. That's a double value add to the wolves. Triple value, if you consider that he would be a slam dunk lynch when his target flipped village.
I disagree with this. I personally thought, based off the way Nav talked, that he was a parity seer. And idk I could see the wolves thinking the same. He literally said if paws flips wolf, he would go for capri because she would also likely be a wolf. So I could have seen them thinking his role was a lot more powerful than it potentially was and wanting to kill him to prevent him from getting results. why else would they kill nav, who didnt even vote yesterday? Either they were scared of him/his role (which is my thought) or they want to use it as some sort of way of clearing capri if she is a wolf (which miz thought but I dont think I agree with, but I could see it as a possibility).


So nav's results came up similar for capri and paws. we know this much. either capri is wolf or village (or 3rd party but Im not discussing that). if she is a wolf, they would be really ****ing confused about what nav was preaching, as they would know paws and capri weren't the same affiliation. they likely wouldn't be that afraid of his role in this case, as they would know his info wasn't too strong. if she is village, they would be really ****ing afraid he was basically a seer trying to down play his role or something. the nav and paws kill over an allie kill (if she was a villager) makes sense to me
 
Wait where did I go? 🙁

Also can someone tell me why it wouldn't make sense for allie as a wolf blocker to block paws on a night the wolves knew there wouldn't be any NKs to then be able to throw her under the bus the day after? Because the thought is putting her in my wolf list.
how would the wolves know there wouldn't be NKs n2?
 
I just don't see why wolves would convert that early unless they were in a full-blown panic or were forced to convert because of game structure.

Unless Mel/Coop is a wolf, in which case I would not be surprised because he has done that before.

...wait ew gross, I just had an awful thought. What if they offered AM convert or die on N1 for an Orchestra repeat and she chose death :lame:
 
I just don't see why wolves would convert that early unless they were in a full-blown panic or were forced to convert because of game structure.

Unless Mel/Coop is a wolf, in which case I would not be surprised because he has done that before.

...wait ew gross, I just had an awful thought. What if they offered AM convert or die on N1 for an Orchestra repeat and she chose death :lame:
But why would they convert D1? Also why are we convert hunting when there's a boatload of explanations other than conversion?
 
Just to clarify I'm not trying to convert hunt but there are reasons why a NK might be delayed or not allowed to happen. I could just be wrapped in tin foil too
 
If there’s more than one wolf with extra NK’s I would bet money that a wolf was on the Kata lynch.
Seems a little OP but ok
Wolves were scared enough of Nav's ability they killed him last night, even though he didn't vote. I assumed his role was something more like a parity seer and I would imagine they did as well. this really makes me think capri is a poor vote, but I could be wrong about this. I would like to hear from her @capri1722
I mean after reading the flavor cop thing on mafia wiki that someone posted it seems like a cryptic affiliation seer. Like for example, for village you find some catnip, or for wolf you find some cat food.
Yup. It would be a great wolf move for Capri to kill the person who she knows is village after Nav said that. His information doesn’t necessarily sway me one way or another and I can see the way it would be a smart wolf move.
Lmao you clearly think more highly of wolf-me than I do. :laugh:
@capri1722 why like posts but not post anything on thread?
Because I was CATching up and then I took a cat nap.
 
Ugh if Mel was busy posting and didn't see the traction Kata was getting when he moved his vote, it would explain that weird outburst after lynch close

Conversion with inheriting the dead wolf's ability would also explain why Kata's ability is still active

And if Acanth was actually a wolf and Mel didn't read the wolf role pm AGAIN because he never reads it, it would explain why he thought it would be ok to lynch Acanth because she could just cancel it, but then he realized & tried to walk it back but it was too late

Aahhh I don't like this, someone tell me I'm bonkers
 
Ugh if Mel was busy posting and didn't see the traction Kata was getting when he moved his vote, it would explain that weird outburst after lynch close

Conversion with inheriting the dead wolf's ability would also explain why Kata's ability is still active

And if Acanth was actually a wolf and Mel didn't read the wolf role pm AGAIN because he never reads it, it would explain why he thought it would be ok to lynch Acanth because she could just cancel it, but then he realized & tried to walk it back but it was too late

Aahhh I don't like this, someone tell me I'm bonkers
You're bonkers.
 
Ugh if Mel was busy posting and didn't see the traction Kata was getting when he moved his vote, it would explain that weird outburst after lynch close

Conversion with inheriting the dead wolf's ability would also explain why Kata's ability is still active

And if Acanth was actually a wolf and Mel didn't read the wolf role pm AGAIN because he never reads it, it would explain why he thought it would be ok to lynch Acanth because she could just cancel it, but then he realized & tried to walk it back but it was too late

Aahhh I don't like this, someone tell me I'm bonkers
You're bonkers
 
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