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cdoconn said:
So I sit in the front because of the whole deaf thing, and it’s great and all... I love it




Except that it’s prime location for my sick professors to cough all over/ around me!!!

:rage::rage::rage:

If I get sick because of my professors, I’m gonna lose it!
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Wear a mask to class

“I’m practicing being masked for long periods of time for surgeries”

It’s def believable
 
cdoconn said:
So I sit in the front because of the whole deaf thing, and it’s great and all... I love it




Except that it’s prime location for my sick professors to cough all over/ around me!!!

:rage::rage::rage:

If I get sick because of my professors, I’m gonna lose it!
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Aw, man. Why can’t they just cancel class!? I’m staying home an extra day just to make sure I don’t take the class down so that I have been well for almost 72 hours...you’d think they could show the same courtesy. I’m gonna hold my breath when I finally come back to class tomorrow. :meh:

And since my immune system has already taken a beating this week, I’m sure it will gladly take up the next thing that gets thrown my way.
 
Coopah said:
I hate 8AM lectures. That is all.
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I totally feel your pain. I'm hoping to get used to our 8-5:30 days.... there are a few days in the semester where we are in class from 7:30-5:30 (but with a much needed 1 hour lunch break).
 
Emily Faith said:
I’ve been tempted to set “Never Enough” from the Greatest Showman as my alarm tone because that’s what I’m thinking about how much sleep I got when I’m waking up M-F for those 8 AMs.
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Ok but that actually was my alarm tone this morning
 
Large animal anatomy sucks.
Intestinal physiology sucks.
Wanting to boil my skin after parasitology sucks.

I’m just tired. 🙁
 
Pretty sure I just did terrible on that large animal anatomy exam. I loved small animal anatomy but I really don’t like large animal. 🙁
 
cdoconn said:
Agreed. It stinks for me not being able to pull animals out after hours. I just feel so so behind. 🙁
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They don't let you guys look at your cadavars after class?
 
At this point I'd love some large animal anatomy. I'm so tired of trying to find little tiny head muscles/nerves/vessels on our dog. I just want something big that I can actually see.
 
cdoconn said:
We could for SA, but it’s too dangerous for LA with our setup with the full animals.
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Wtf??? Our overhead rails were pretty rickety (obviously, considering they've since been torn down and the lab completely remodeled), but we were still allowed to get our horses/cows/goats out anytime we wanted.
 
twelvetigers said:
Once you get further in the semester you can move things around easier. Like when there are more pieces... heh.
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That’s what I’m hoping! We started with the head and neck, so theoretically we can now take go in out of lab and do head reviews

ResoluteMike said:
After the first exam out cadavers got a lot smaller.
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True!! Very true! I think next is forelimb? so that should hopefully be okay!
 
LyraGardenia said:
Wtf??? Our overhead rails were pretty rickety (obviously, considering they've since been torn down and the lab completely remodeled), but we were still allowed to get our horses/cows/goats out anytime we wanted.
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I wish we were allowed any time outside of dissection class with our cadavers. Our dissection classes are usually only 2-3 hours and we need to get a lot done so there is a lot of “we can’t find it but we have to move on,” which is so annoying. We don’t even get the same animal for each dissection so you end up with someone else’s hack job half the time.
It must be so helpful to be able to look at the specimens after class to study. We have to relay on pictures and videos we took during lab. Most of our class finds dissections useless and now I understand why! It would be so much more helpful to be able to slow down and go back!
 
LabLuv004 said:
We don’t even get the same animal for each dissection so you end up with someone else’s hack job half the time.
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There would be riots if my school did this. How the hell does the school expect y'all to know this stuff for the test if you can't actually study it? Pictures are fine for the memorization, but suck for the context.
 
LabLuv004 said:
I wish we were allowed any time outside of dissection class with our cadavers. Our dissection classes are usually only 2-3 hours and we need to get a lot done so there is a lot of “we can’t find it but we have to move on,” which is so annoying. We don’t even get the same animal for each dissection so you end up with someone else’s hack job half the time.
It must be so helpful to be able to look at the specimens after class to study. We have to relay on pictures and videos we took during lab. Most of our class finds dissections useless and now I understand why! It would be so much more helpful to be able to slow down and go back!
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Wow. This is crazy to me. We have 24/7 access to the anatomy lab. We aren’t allowed to take pictures, but man. That sucks...I would hate having someone else’s animals.
 
LabLuv004 said:
I wish we were allowed any time outside of dissection class with our cadavers. Our dissection classes are usually only 2-3 hours and we need to get a lot done so there is a lot of “we can’t find it but we have to move on,” which is so annoying. We don’t even get the same animal for each dissection so you end up with someone else’s hack job half the time.
It must be so helpful to be able to look at the specimens after class to study. We have to relay on pictures and videos we took during lab. Most of our class finds dissections useless and now I understand why! It would be so much more helpful to be able to slow down and go back!
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We used to be able to take pictures and videos of them (providing they don’t go on social media/ get shared outside the school) but our new professor won’t let us. 🙁

He gives us the Popleski images or something like that and 2- 2.5 hours of lab time and then we move on. 😱 Not a single person is moderately ready for the exam
 
Do most schools just have one cadaver you look at per group? We had like 16 dogs and then 9 horses/cows total, and we rotated cadavers daily. I liked it since on an exam any of the cadavers were fair game, and it gave you a chance to see structures that may be more visible on another animal, etc.

Rarely were cadavers not well dissected for us. Since they were all for everyone, people generally did a good job since they’d also only be screwing over themselves if a poorly dissected cadaver ended up on an exam.
 
We had our main cadaver, which we dissected during lab time, but we could pull any cadaver out during our free time to study. My group would also periodically stop in the middle of lab and go look at other people's cadavers - we called them "dog tours".

As for large animals, we had a hanging horse and a hanging cow that weren't dissected by us that we studied off. Each group also got a ton of horse legs to dissect. Our professors also do a lot of demos in lab where they would mainly bring in fresh large animal specimens for us to look at/go through/learn about. We had some occasional pig dissection days and a section at the end of the class where we went over lab animals and birds.

There's a large animal anatomy class this semester for people who want to spend more time with large animal stuff, but it's an elective
 
Caiter92 said:
Do most schools just have one cadaver you look at per group? We had like 16 dogs and then 9 horses/cows total, and we rotated cadavers daily. I liked it since on an exam any of the cadavers were fair game, and it gave you a chance to see structures that may be more visible on another animal, etc.

Rarely were cadavers not well dissected for us. Since they were all for everyone, people generally did a good job since they’d also only be screwing over themselves if a poorly dissected cadaver ended up on an exam.
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For SA, we had 27 dogs plus 2 dogs dissected by TA’s. For LA, we have 4 cows, 4 horse, and then 2 of each that the TA’s dissect?

But we can pull out any animal to study, which is what we did instead of rotating cadavers
 
Yeah I would straight up fail anatomy if we couldn't take out our cadavers at any time.

1 dog and 1 cat per 4 person group plus a few demo dogs dissected by our professor; the anatomy lab is open 24/7 and you can go in and look at any cadaver you want at any time (obviously have to care for it appropriately and dissecting another group's cadaver is a no-no). Also, we frequently walk around during lab and identify structures on each other's cadavers.

My group had a brachycephalic dog, so for this block (the head) we got to fish around in a bucket of pre-dissected heads from last year and choose one superficial dissection and one deep dissection. Was one of the creepiest things I've ever done but also has been one of the most helpful haha.

All of our animals for lab are client donations from animals euthanized for medical reasons at the hospital, which is nice. In addition to feeling like the bodies are being put to good use, we also get some brief case history and the names of the animals. Drives home the point that these animals are all individuals who were loved during their lifetime by families who probably had to make some tough choices on behalf of their pets. Which is a nice reminder to have when you're standing in anatomy lab going "...someone remind me why I'm doing this to myself?"
 
Four us we have groups of 3 that get a dog to themselves and we have prosections to look at whenever we want. We don't have much horse/cow anatomy unfortunately, at most we have comparative labs and definitely no dissections. There are some prosecutions for us though. Also we are able to use any of these at any point.

We basically worship Dr. Gutierrez, he tries so hard to make our anatomy classes enjoyable and stress free.
 
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For large animal we have fewer cadavers -- I think every group of 10 gets a goat to dissect and then we have a few embalmed horses, a couple plastinated horses, and a cow and camelid or two. Oh and at least one pig, I think. With the exception of the goats, only the first year TAs get to dissect. But, it's my understanding that the cadavers are out in the lab at all times for us to study if we want.

We don't do any dissections for comparative anatomy, I don't think. Bummer for the ~60% of my school that wants to do wildlife med haha
 
I don't even know how to describe my anatomy class this semester. The large animal parts are mostly wandering around in groups to various prosections. Then some of our labs are more small animal stuff, like we did ultrasounds on dogs last week (and oh man, I could actually recognize a few organs). I like it, but it's very different from our first semester anatomy.
 
finnickthedog said:
I don't even know how to describe my anatomy class this semester. The large animal parts are mostly wandering around in groups to various prosections. Then some of our labs are more small animal stuff, like we did ultrasounds on dogs last week (and oh man, I could actually recognize a few organs). I like it, but it's very different from our first semester anatomy.
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I love it. The hands on stuff is very cool. We’ve gotten to ultrasound both live dogs and horses, perform endoscopy and pass a nasogastric tube on horse cadavers, and other stuff.

We basically have a hanging horse and multiple prosection stations manned by our anatomy faculty that we visit/learn from. We also often take some sort of quiz in the lab. Also, our anatomy lecture “quizzes” (aka exams) are all open note.

It’s crazy, but I love it and I am learning a lot and retaining a lot for knowing zilch about horses and cows prior.
 
wallydo said:
I love it. The hands on stuff is very cool. We’ve gotten to ultrasound both live dogs and horses, perform endoscopy and pass a nasogastric tube on horse cadavers, and other stuff.

We basically have a hanging horse and multiple prosection stations manned by our anatomy faculty that we visit/learn from. We also often take some sort of quiz in the lab. Also, our anatomy lecture “quizzes” (aka exams) are all open note.

It’s crazy, but I love it and I am learning a lot and retaining a lot for knowing zilch about horses and cows prior.
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It just feels like two different classes that are somehow both anatomy.

Also, they scared the crap out of me when they said we should have studied for the open note quiz because I definitely did not. It went fine though. :hilarious:
 
8 person groups with a male dog, female dog, and either a calf or Pony for us to dissect. Fresh tissue limbs and hearts as well. There's a prosection of a calf, pony, dog, and goat the lab staff make. We can access everything but the prosections at any time.
 
batsenecal said:
There would be riots if my school did this. How the hell does the school expect y'all to know this stuff for the test if you can't actually study it? Pictures are fine for the memorization, but suck for the context.
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Especially since there end up being certain groups/people who just never got the idea of how to dissect carefully, so they pretty much come to you during lab to ask for a rundown of structures that got ripped out in their dog...

My pet peeve during first year was coming in to study only to find someone had dug through our cadaver and cut nerves/vessels or just botched things we worked hard on. At least one person got 'talked to' about it.
LabLuv004 said:
I wish we were allowed any time outside of dissection class with our cadavers. Our dissection classes are usually only 2-3 hours and we need to get a lot done so there is a lot of “we can’t find it but we have to move on,” which is so annoying. We don’t even get the same animal for each dissection so you end up with someone else’s hack job half the time.
It must be so helpful to be able to look at the specimens after class to study. We have to relay on pictures and videos we took during lab. Most of our class finds dissections useless and now I understand why! It would be so much more helpful to be able to slow down and go back!
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Outside class time was honestly when most of my group did our studying. Dissection can take forever, especially when you're trying to strip fascia off every nerve/vessel. I think it was only the week of the exams, when most of the dissection was already done, that we could actually study during the lab period.

Weird that you guys rotate cadavers. I can't understand why that's a thing. If one cadaver is days behind, you can't learn at all that lab because you're trying to catch up? It makes sense to be able to see all the variations between individuals that exist, but it just seems like a good way to hinder learning.
 
We have groups of four assigned to a dog first semester and groups of 6 assigned to a horse second semester. There were prosectioned dogs first semester and porsectioned cows this semester. We usually walk around and look at other people’s animals during class or just anytime in the lab. Definitely glad we have 24/7 access and don’t rotate cadavers.
 
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