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That being said, I would think that a mod that goes by the book, sets their rules and sticks to them (Doce, Jdh) would have it block the wolf kill

I don't think there's anything inherently "rule abiding" that would say it should block the wolf kill. My PM said my role ability was not useable for a night/day. Do you consider the wolf kill to be a "role ability"? I can see half of us answering that one way and the other half answering it the other way. Big toss-up. Personally, I wouldn't consider it a personal role ability, unless my game design was such that the wolves picked a specific killer. Then I might. *shrug*

dungeon master like mod that will tweak midgame to help the balance or solve an unforeseen issue (I fit in this, as do most mods), seeing the wolves are getting violated right now, might tweak things(give them their kill)

Yeah. So, this isn't a ... I dunno ... negative criticism of doing that... Ok, I guess it is, but I mean it respectfully, because it's not like I'm saying "I'm right", but ... I'm really tired of mods adjusting mid-game to balance. I get that as mods we kinda want to see our games come down to a closer finish, but by doing that we totally take away the fun chance for one side to just slaughter the other. It also takes pressure off either side to play well because, hell, the mods will just balance things out as we go! If the game is reasonably balanced from the beginning, and one side just happens to get off to a great start (*cough*by killing two wolves in the first two lynches*couch*), then personally I'd rather the mod just let it go. If the villagers stomp the wolves, they get bragging rights about an awesome game. If the wolves come back and win, they get bragging rights about how well they turned it around. If the mod keeps adjusting things to balance it out ... meh .... it doesn't mean much.

I agree this gives us a bit of guidance for investigation/blocking/etc, I just wouldn't be alarmed if this is a wild goose chase to give the wolves a chance to catch up

QFT.
 
I don't think there's anything inherently "rule abiding" that would say it should block the wolf kill. My PM said my role ability was not useable for a night/day. Do you consider the wolf kill to be a "role ability"? I can see half of us answering that one way and the other half answering it the other way. Big toss-up. Personally, I wouldn't consider it a personal role ability, unless my game design was such that the wolves picked a specific killer. Then I might. *shrug*



Yeah. So, this isn't a ... I dunno ... negative criticism of doing that... Ok, I guess it is, but I mean it respectfully, because it's not like I'm saying "I'm right", but ... I'm really tired of mods adjusting mid-game to balance. I get that as mods we kinda want to see our games come down to a closer finish, but by doing that we totally take away the fun chance for one side to just slaughter the other. It also takes pressure off either side to play well because, hell, the mods will just balance things out as we go! If the game is reasonably balanced from the beginning, and one side just happens to get off to a great start (*cough*by killing two wolves in the first two lynches*couch*), then personally I'd rather the mod just let it go. If the villagers stomp the wolves, they get bragging rights about an awesome game. If the wolves come back and win, they get bragging rights about how well they turned it around. If the mod keeps adjusting things to balance it out ... meh .... it doesn't mean much.



QFT.

i actually agree with most of what you said. If I made a role that "anyone that lynches the player is disabled that night" and all the wolves lynched that player, then I'd argue that all the wolves are disabled and can't do anything. If it is, like you described, I made a role that "anyone that lynches the player can't use their role for that night", then, well, any specific wolves can't do anything, but the wolves group can still kill. So, it does get to how you made the role up when you created it, and how you choose to interpret your rules. In my game, you were a very interesting situation in my rules... in fact, you almost had ended the game on N4. As you may recall, your character was the key to killing the alpha wolf, and you had received the key to killing them, but the trigger to allow you to kill them occurred the same night. When I made up the rules, I phrased it that it has to happen AFTER the trigger occurs, not simultaneously, and thus, you were converted by trema and not kill her. It so happened that the wolves were down and out there as well so I was glad I found that wiggle room in my rules, because if I wasn't looking for a way out, it would have ended all lame like. But, other little things like allowing someone to use an ability a night early, or changing something from every 4 nights to every 3 nights, etc, I think doesn't ruin things too much, so I'm not as upset about that... making up a new conversion, or reviving someone/bringing in someone (which I was before, in the office game, i missed sign ups, was allowed to join midway as a wolf) as a wolf because the wolf numbers were low does throw off the competitive balance and takes away a little bit. but this is just for funsies so either way I try not to get too worked up about it.

Oh, the intricacies of being a mod. I'm sure DocE is going to come on here and write a few novels worth of information (believe me, I've had some of those conversations with him, as he helped shape my modding and still find his games some of my favorite to play in). But I like that there is some variety in the way games are run, and I don't mind having the mods act as a dungeon master (i never played table top D&D, but, well, yeah) and weave us through a masterful tale.

That being said, lynch Lupin for now...
 
fecking hell..... bastardos! 😱 🙁


lynch DocE

for now.... because well I have no ideas at the moment and I want him to feel the love
 
Holy cow! I've missed a ton 🙁
Going to go back and read everything thoroughly. Man I miss the old SDN set up...
 
I gave you my role, what else would you like from me jojo?
Only thing I can think that might of put off dy, is I told her my ability, which is passive, but essential my death has "consequences",
MhX8nd
I figured this would be helpful if a wolf attacked me, but since I am revealing this now... probably not.
well, that might be why it doesn't add up to her... hmm
 
Don't know if it is a wolf or villager that has silencing powers, but it prevents posting and PMing, hence my absence yesterday. Guess you missed that post this morning of mine stating that. Anywho, no info to add. Not sure who to vote for yet.
 
well, that might be why it doesn't add up to her... hmm
For the second time this week... i will use my favorite vice presidential candidate quote (guess that candidate... any of you old enough?)

Who are you and why are you here?
 
Lynch the Intruder

And Lynch FF for saying "cow" (Really I have no reasons for this lynch or for anyone else right now...so waffles could be coming).
 
Day 4 Lynches:

Allie 2 (escalla, swings)
SOV 1 (DVMD)
FF 2 (Allie, SnS)
Lupin 2 (DocE, jojo)
Kaydubs 2 (LIS, Lissa)
Jojo 1 (SOV)
DocE 1 (Devyn)

Votes Cast = 11/20

Lynch Deadline 9 PM CDT, or earlier if I feel like it 😀
 
I'm going to throw it out there that my lynch for lupin is not on a whim. Their actions have repeatedly suggested something fishy. Neither being silent yesterday nor saying she was silenced this AM were used to make this decision. Its my gur feeling based on other comments made, voting pattern, etc.

And allieh isn't far behind, but doing enough "fishy" stuff in one day is more impressive than doing it in two.
 
Doesn't change that you're playing (through 1.5 days) like a wolf. But playing like one could also be just doing a really bad job at playing villager well. Really bad. But if people would rather go for Allie, be my guest. I have nothing but my own analysis and gut to go on.
 
You
1) voted rapidly for an innocent player
2) quickly changed your plans put info out there that incriminated an innocent player (my personal move du jour as a wolf is to pose as a seer and do that). You didnt attempt anything subtle to push it either, just straight out info dropped, which is generally only done by those noy afraid of being targeted
3) vaguely defended a wolf and ignored multiple people who were pushing for that wolf to get lynched
4) and voted for someone who (from everything Ive seen) not a single person felt was suspicious.

4.5) that person you voted for died the next wolf kill.

4.9) I just don't feel like youre analyzing yoir moves outloud the way I'm used to seeing you do.
 
And considering no veteran player thinks "purple" is evil, it would be a jump to automatically say to off a person for being purple. And I dont vuy the "purple and dangerous". She wasn't dangerous OR purple (except for her cape color)
 
You
1) voted rapidly for an innocent player I voted before anyone had anything to go on, and my reason was given as I frequently target group mates as a wolf.
2) quickly changed your plans put info out there that incriminated an innocent player (my personal move du jour as a wolf is to pose as a seer and do that). You didnt attempt anything subtle to push it either, just straight out info dropped, which is generally only done by those noy afraid of being targeted I had not checked some pm info before posting
3) vaguely defended a wolf and ignored multiple people who were pushing for that wolf to get lynched I never defended anyone and I usually don't bandwagon without solid evidence so I choose someone and see how they react to having a lynch vote
4) and voted for someone who (from everything Ive seen) not a single person felt was suspicious. See above

4.5) that person you voted for died the next wolf kill. As a wolf, I usually target someone who has made themselves standout and bait others into thinking they are a wolf, as in killing who they previously voted for as a lynch.

4.9) I just don't feel like youre analyzing yoir moves outloud the way I'm used to seeing you do.
Oh, I'm analyzing. It may not be perfect due to having three tests this week, but as you can see, every one of my moves has been thought out.

And as to the "purple and dangerous", that was the exact info I had. Make of it what you will.
 
Deadline is being moved up to 5:30pm Central! Get your votes in!
 
unlynch Lupin

not feeling doce's reasoning. Especially if purple and dangerous was in the description she got, and the mods said the first night that Green Lantern was the only hope of saving his "violet" something or other
 
Bah! I have made my case. Since deadline is moved up, I will state that two people know my role, even though one only knows my character, not my true identity. Gonna lynch swings due to thinking there is a wolf in that group. I would love to vote for Doc, but I doubt he is a wolf, just an ignorant villager.
 
unlynch Lupin

not feeling doce's reasoning. Especially if purple and dangerous was in the description she got, and the mods said the first night that Green Lantern was the only hope of saving his "violet" something or other

I think that "violet" is likely Star Sapphire (or one of them) - on and off love interest of Green Lantern.
 
I think someone brought that up already, though.

I'm torn. I think the info might have been perfectly legit - dyachei was purple and may well have been "dangerous"....Dangerous does not necessarily mean evil, although it sounds like Lupin interpreted it that way. Good characters can be dangerous as well.
 
Ugh internet keeps cutting me off.

I'm going to just have to go off of my suspicions. I don't have anything concrete atm to base my lynch on and am willing to waffle.

Lynch Allie
 
unlynch Lupin

not feeling doce's reasoning. Especially if purple and dangerous was in the description she got, and the mods said the first night that Green Lantern was the only hope of saving his "violet" something or other

Violet is the characters color (like a purple version of green lantern). The color is identification/power specific, not the same way raven happens to have a purple on grey color scheme. Also note: not the "color" of the role either. Raven was black.

No. I'm pretty sure that lupin had the snippet of info that there was a "violet" character and misunderstood it. Comic book nerds here knew what the mod meant, but a regular WW player would think that color = alignment. Its that mistake I'm all over.

Also dangerous? The mod even told us that raven talks to deceased players. That's not dangerous at all. This reeks of my own favorite technique: outing people for being "suspicious enough" on a partial seer.
 
I think someone brought that up already, though.

I'm torn. I think the info might have been perfectly legit - dyachei was purple and may well have been "dangerous"....Dangerous does not necessarily mean evil, although it sounds like Lupin interpreted it that way. Good characters can be dangerous as well.

In what way shape or form would a character that talks to dead villagers, controlled by a player who outed a wolf, ever be "dangerous." Maybe to the wolves.
 
I think its her really crappy defense of her logic that is making me even more confident that she didn't have a single believable reason to her actions day 1 besides having a bushy grey tail.
 
I have to leave for a whiskey tasting..... I am keeping my vote for now as DocE is being himself.... lol

Lupin has told me who she is since day 1 and it is not a wolf role. So I am not inclined to vote for her nor think she is being suspicious. I think you are reading into things that are not there right now DocE
 
How do you explain the pretty damn innacurate read then? I just don't buy it. That's all. I know if I'm a wolf I tell someone my role on day 1, PM1. And I do it because people somehow think that I can't possibly be making up a role (and telling you my actual power) as a wolf on day one. Saying she told you her role means nothing when I've successfully pulled it off as a wolf (once for the entire game without ever being questioned) multiple time for the very reason that people jumped to my defense for role revealing so early.

That's all. I'm done on the issue. When they're a wolf using you to aid their cause, I'll laugh. If they're not, I'll still not feel bad because hey really botched day 1.
 
I think that "violet" is likely Star Sapphire (or one of them) - on and off love interest of Green Lantern.
that was me... purple and dangerous very well could have been star sapphire, so until dyachei admitted to being a teen titan, I thought lupin's information might have been point to her being star sapphire.

http://teentitans.wikia.com/wiki/Raven

she looks kinda purple to me...
 
In what way shape or form would a character that talks to dead villagers, controlled by a player who outed a wolf, ever be "dangerous." Maybe to the wolves.

When I figured out who dyachei was I took the dangerous to be in relation to Raven's backstory. Raven is half demon, demons are dangerous. I don't know if I really buy the lupin vote. I think she was just trying to get her info out.

lynch swings
 
Lynch Allie. I get were DocE is coming from, but I can definitely see how Lupin could get the violet thing and think Raven.
 
Lynch Swings
I'm getting a weird/bad vibe from her posts

(I miss the "who replied" option we used to have. For now, you can go to person's profile and click "recent activity". You have to sift through ALL their posts, but it's the only way to see all their WW posts on one page)
 
I know this is basically pointless but if you lynch me you'll be lynching a villager. I'm useful. Don't lynch me.
 
Unofficial Lynch Tally

Allie 4(Escalla, Swings, FF, Dwin)
SOV 1 (DVMD)
FF 2 (Allie, SnS)
Lupin 1 (DocE)
Kaydubs 2 (LIS, Lissa)
DocE 1 (Devyn)
DrJojo 1 (SOV)
Swings 3 (Lupin, Hedgie, WS)
 
Lynch deadline has been moved up. It's now 1.5 hrs away. You don't have much time to convince people.
 
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