Fire Emblem: Three HoWWses Game Thread

[justafluff]

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Just some quick thoughts. Several people have confirmed that they were assigned to a "house" in their PMs. The mistake is assuming that houses = factions, which I think is a leap that you might be getting stuck in, zuri. The flavor and heck, the title of the game does seem to imply three warring factions that perhaps have wincons to eliminate other factions. But I also think the mods are chaotic enough they would purposefully lead us on with that in an attempt to get us to assume 3 factions + wolf 🤣 You could very well have house-mates that are in a different faction or are wolf or are completely 3p.

I don't mind stating that I have an additional wincon (in addition to eliminating all wolves), as I'm sure many if not most of you do as well. I don't think anyone should be hinting at what they are or faction-revealing right now though. The thing is, given the "traditional wolfpack" statement, more than likely no faction wins if wolves are alive, so yes, I actually agree with the experienced players saying we should focus on wolf hunts first, faction issues later.


If I were a wolf I would not be heavily doubling down on someone in day one, much less making such an obvious alignment with someone else, but that might just be my wolfy playstyle lol

Thanks for phrasing it this way chic. I’m the same. I just assumed that one of the factions is the wolf one, but it might not be like that at all. I have no indication that I have an exclusive wincon and I am planning to wolfhunt. This faction talk has confused me enough to regret that I mentioned anything at all and it seems not everyone is the same, so we can’t be drawing conclusions on unclear mechanics at this point.

But to clear up where I’m standing, I see Zuri’s point and yours and even Genny’s, and in fact I doubt wolf!Genny would show up and declare blatantly that we don’t need to worry about wolves.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I do hope to hear more from PSV tomorrow because I still don't really know who she's looking at.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Thanks for phrasing it this way chic. I’m the same. I just assumed that one of the factions is the wolf one, but it might not be like that at all. I have no indication that I have an exclusive wincon and I am planning to wolfhunt. This faction talk has confused me enough to regret that I mentioned anything at all and it seems not everyone is the same, so we can’t be drawing conclusions on unclear mechanics at this point.

But to clear up where I’m standing, I see Zuri’s point and yours and even Genny’s, and in fact I doubt wolf!Genny would show up and declare blatantly that we don’t need to worry about wolves.

Who are you thinking is a wolf then?

 

[justafluff]

Who are you thinking is a wolf then?

Sorry for the disorganized thought dumb but this is where I’m standing:
I got an earlier ping from Veggie, it felt like a noob wolfy thing to mention sus on Zuri within a post and then end up piling there without investigating further. I feel much better about wiisp…. No other particular pings. Maybe alley? She stood out to me as a bit hedgey. PSV does seem quieter but I don’t think that a wolfy tell of hers.

 

[Zenge142]

Maybe alley? She stood out to me as a bit hedgey.

Can you highlight what specifically you thought was hedgy?

PSV does seem quieter but I don’t think that a wolfy tell of hers.

What would you say is a wolfy PSV tell?

 

[zuriburi]

@zuriburi . Surface level read: 4 Experienced players [Wildzoo, AM, Wisp, Me] (from different backgrounds/communities even!) Are saying that the best approach is to not worry about factional stuff and just wolfhunt.

Are we all 4 wolves and rest of thread and manipulated rest of thread to make our approach seem like the 'correct' one?

The answer should be fairly obvious, we are talking with our knowledge and agree on it, so the core part about your push its simply wrong.

And talking about parts of your wincon or soing assumptions about other its still bad and not a good topic of discussion! You gave info about stuff that mentioned your wincon, making super easy to someone who maybe has a different one, to know you're not their ally. And its something that hinders wolfhunting because of that.

And I dont have to bring up WW logic (which there is on why it hinders scumhunting), the rules itself said that claiming affiliation was not recommended. So trying to angle a push based on mech assumptions will also bite you in the back and for that reason is something that cant be discussed, it is simply not worth to do it.

So like, if you still think AM or Dubz are a wolf, my recommendation would be to drop the tinfoil and read their post/tone/how do they treat other players and try fo find alignment indicative stuff there

Yeah this all makes sense and I’m definitely willing to admit I could be completely wrong about my theory.

At this point I don’t think DubZ is a wolf given that she actually addressed my argument directly. If I set aside my theory, my main reason for keeping my vote on AM is how defensive she got with respect to my vote and theory/accusing me of making stuff about her when I had quoted what I was talking about.

Also her response to me describing her votes and pressuring as random was really surprising because I didn’t think I was being accusatory to describe her first post being a chic vote before either of them had posted as random. She acted like that was an insult and also said that she had already just justified her vote on chic when she just hadn’t??? Like the reason she gave for her chic vote initially was that chic needed to make content?? I think it’s fine to vote to engage and pressure people, but it just doesn’t feel unfair to describe that as random and she acted like me saying that was just an attempt to get her to burn posts.

And then her response to my case seemed to be dodging the logic altogether and to insist that my case only would make sense if I gave up more information about my role which doesn’t feel like a villager trying to respond to a case but a wolf trying to twist it to their advantage.

All this said, me viewing all of these things as wolfy could very well be confirmation bias which is a very strong force for me in this game.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unyeet chic
Yeet zuri

 

[Wiisp]

how common is it for alleycat to solely react to posts for like 4 pages, and then finally officially enter the thread around the 240 post marker, and just fluff? its just weird to me that they were clearly reading, and entered with nothing

unless its common practice for them to mindlessly react to posts

 

[zuriburi]

Unyeet chic
Yeet zuri

Lol finally a vote that doesn’t feel random

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I do hope to hear more from PSV tomorrow because I still don't really know who she's looking at.

Me neither.

 

[Animal Midwife]

how common is it for alleycat to solely react to posts for like 4 pages, and then finally officially enter the thread around the 240 post marker, and just fluff? its just weird to me that they were clearly reading, and entered with nothing

unless its common practice for them to mindlessly react to posts

Not uncommon but she still needs to post more content.

 

[Wiisp]

zuri wont let this die how, just doubles down, its like tripping over poop, getting back up, and then tripping over it again

P.S: I used poop because the other word got censored

 

[zuriburi]

zuri wont let this die how, just doubles down, its like tripping over poop, getting back up, and then tripping over it again

P.S: I used poop because the other word got censored

💩💩💩

 

[zuriburi]

Actually, you are in my POE now.

could you explain why this post put me in your poe? Again probably confirmation bias here but I’ve been assuming that all the sus you’ve been throwing my way has been to get me to back off of making a case against you

 

[justafluff]

Can you highlight what specifically you thought was hedgy?

What would you say is a wolfy PSV tell?

I’m here now! I didn’t know the game thread had been posted yet

I like wisp and santy so far
April and AM feel normal
SOV is 🤷🏻‍♀️
Zuri is kinda odd
Fluff seems wolfy but I also thought that for the entire noob game so idk if I’ll ever be able to read her correctly 🤔
I also like Chica, her response to AM seemed spontaneous and authentic
Small ping from poppy

I guess the part referring to me. She calls me wolfy but backtracks saying she thought I was wolfy throughout the noob game, which is irrelevant to this game.

Re: PSV I don’t have a wolfy tell. I just know she’s usually more engaged but she might be busy irl. I just pointed out that she feels different.

 

[Animal Midwife]

could you explain why this post put me in your poe? Again probably confirmation bias here but I’ve been assuming that all the sus you’ve been throwing my way has been to get me to back off of making a case against you

It was the retconned reasoning paired with your handling of fluff that felt like deja vu.

 

[zuriburi]

It was the retroactive reasoning paired with your handling of fluff that felt like deja vu.

deja vu of last game when you weren’t playing or the previous games when I’ve been village? I just honestly don’t feel comfortable having much of a read on fluff either way because I feel too biased. And the inkling about the joke claim thing was more of a feeling at first and then something I did think through more in response to santygrass’s notes about fake claiming generally. I also was kinda following your lead throwing a vote out and seeing the reaction really. Eh anyway if you feel like the way I’ve been playing is wolfy I have definitely been playing This Way so there’s probably little I could do to convince you otherwise. In any case it seems pretty clear we aren’t aligned so it’s probably right for both of us to be yeeting each other.

 

[Animal Midwife]

deja vu of last game when you weren’t playing or the previous games when I’ve been village? I just honestly don’t feel comfortable having much of a read on fluff either way because I feel too biased. And the inkling about the joke claim thing was more of a feeling at first and then something I did think through more in response to santygrass’s notes about fake claiming generally. I also was kinda following your lead throwing a vote out and seeing the reaction really. Eh anyway if you feel like the way I’ve been playing is wolfy I have definitely been playing This Way so there’s probably little I could do to convince you otherwise. In any case it seems pretty clear we aren’t aligned so it’s probably right for both of us to be yeeting each other.

The game I wasn't playing. If it reminded me of your village play, it wouldn't make me suspicious.

You didn't mention the fakeclaim being bait until Santy already said it so I have no proof that was your plan. Nearly an hour after my original post, the only reasoning you gave for yeeting me was you said was my avatar was "suspiciously cute." Another hour goes by and you claim it was a test the whole time and my reaction is why you were actually yeeting me.

I also seriously doubt you were mimicking me given you spent multiple posts saying I was sus for voting when I did. In the rare world that you were, the fact that your doing nothing with the reaction isn't instilling confidence either. You haven't even said who you're suspecting outside of me.

 

[zuriburi]

The game I wasn't playing. If it reminded me of your village play, it wouldn't make me suspicious.

You didn't mention the fakeclaim being bait until Santy already said it so I have no proof that was your plan. Nearly an hour after my original post, the only reasoning you gave for yeeting me was you said was my avatar was "suspiciously cute." Another hour goes by and you claim it was a test the whole time and my reaction is why you were actually yeeting me.

And being kind of quiet and coy about why I’m voting the way I’m voting and then elaborating my rationale taking into consideration new evidence and thoughts as new things happen is wolfy but starting the game with “vote chic” is just good detective skills?

My death knight thing wasn’t a test exactly and I never claimed it was. I was just throwing something out that was mostly a joke to say something and then I developed my thoughts over time, some of which included your response to that claim which felt kind of out of character form what I’ve seen from you. I think I’ve been fairly clear and consistent about my thought process while you’ve been just pressuring and poking around and then responding to my pressure on youvwith arm-flailing and accusations of me lying and tinfoiling and ultimately this retaliatory yeet.

 

[Wiisp]

i read through the whole game, I have hard time deciding who is a low hanging fruit, not good at early game, and who is a wolf that is frozen/doesnt know what to do

probably never voting zori today

 

[Animal Midwife]

And being kind of quiet and coy about why I’m voting the way I’m voting and then elaborating my rationale taking into consideration new evidence and thoughts as new things happen is wolfy but starting the game with “vote chic” is just good detective skills?

My death knight thing wasn’t a test exactly and I never claimed it was. I was just throwing something out that was mostly a joke to say something and then I developed my thoughts over time, some of which included your response to that claim which felt kind of out of character form what I’ve seen from you. I think I’ve been fairly clear and consistent about my thought process while you’ve been just pressuring and poking around and then responding to my pressure on youvwith arm-flailing and accusations of me lying and tinfoiling and ultimately this retaliatory yeet.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're a wolf. Even ignoring the retcon of a retcon in this post, you've burned so many of my posts to force the discussion to keep looping back to this even when multiple people tried to redirect you to pursuits that involve talking about more than just me and the tinfoil.

You haven't answered any of my questions that would poke a gaping hole in your tinfoil nor responded to the inconsistencies on how your treating my slot. To put the cherry on top, you're now actively distorting my arguments because you've ran out of lies to based your push against me on.

I've also noticed you don't care about the other three voting for you. Only me. I wonder why.

 

[Wiisp]

Yeet Veggie
so im not going to sleep without a vote placed

 

[zuriburi]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're a wolf. Even ignoring the retcon of a retcon in this post, you've burned so many of my posts to force the discussion to keep looping back to this even when multiple people tried to redirect you to pursuits that involve talking about more than just me and the tinfoil.

I listened to those folks and set aside the arguments rooted in my theory and just reinforced my vote based on other examples of your behavior today, which is when you decided to vote me.

You haven't answered any of my questions that would poke a gaping hole in your tinfoil nor responded to the inconsistencies on how your treating my slot. To put the cherry on top, you're now actively distorting my arguments because you've ran out of lies to based your push against me on.

I don’t know what inconsistencies you’re talking about or questions that poke gaping holes in my theory. I do believe that DubZ and santygrass gave pretty good rationales for why my theory might not be true. You mainly asked me which other factions I was talking about and implied that my theory only made sense if I could name a faction that was a bigger threat than the wolves. And I was literally never arguing that there was another faction that was a bigger threat. I was picking on your claim that we didn’t know about other factions, because based on my read of the game at the time that claim made most sense from the pov of a wolf for whom all the other factions are just prey. I don’t see how naming factions supports or detracts from my theory or does anything but give players information they can use against.

I've also noticed you don't care about the other three voting for you. Only me. I wonder why.

I felt like the other votes on me were kinda randomly dropped by noobs getting bad vibes from all of the pushback I was giving the veterans. Like not a great reason to vote, but not explicitly wolfy. I felt like your vote was intended to shut me up.

Anyway, I’m definitely guilty of tunneling on you today, so I’ll log off for now and try to look at this whole thread with fresh eyes tomorrow and pay more attention to other players so you don’t have to waste your post count on me.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I listened to those folks and set aside the arguments rooted in my theory and just reinforced my vote based on other examples of your behavior today, which is when you decided to vote me.

Far from true. The same behaviors you said we're NAI earlier this cycle, you've now labeled as wolfy because there is no case without the tinfoil. And now you're falsely claiming OMGUS when I lineated several times, even prior to my vote, why your views haven't been villagey.

I don’t know what inconsistencies you’re talking about or questions that poke gaping holes in my theory. I do believe that DubZ and santygrass gave pretty good rationales for why my theory might not be true. You mainly asked me which other factions I was talking about and implied that my theory only made sense if I could name a faction that was a bigger threat than the wolves. And I was literally never arguing that there was another faction that was a bigger threat. I was picking on your claim that we didn’t know about other factions, because based on my read of the game at the time that claim made most sense from the pov of a wolf for whom all the other factions are just prey. I don’t see how naming factions supports or detracts from my theory or does anything but give players information they can use against.

If there isn't a faction that's you know is a threat, you argument isn't based on anything. There's zero reason to protect their identities if you think they'd make us lose by surviving. That's what I've said no less than five times already.

If you know those factions, you should have said something by now. And, if you don't know exclusive factions exists, again, where is this "We know other factions exist" coming from and why is me saying they matter less than wolves (if they matter at all) problematic in the world where you both know them and view them as nonthreatening?

I felt like the other votes on me were kinda randomly dropped by noobs getting bad vibes from all of the pushback I was giving the veterans. Like not a great reason to vote, but not explicitly wolfy. I felt like your vote was intended to shut me up.

1. SAR isn't a noob.
2. Everyone who voted you gave a reason. I don't see how you can paint that as random.

What I'm getting at though is why aren't not convincing them that they're wrong? You made a big deal about not changing my mind but how come you've decided they will always see you as wolfy too (when you don't think any are wolves)?

Have I ever voted people to shut them up or is that something wolves decide to do independently so I can't get too much information from their spew?

Anyway, I’m definitely guilty of tunneling on you today, so I’ll log off for now and try to look at this whole thread with fresh eyes tomorrow and pay more attention to other players so you don’t have to waste your post count on me.

I expect to see solid solving tomorrow that doesn't reference your tinfoil as reasoning even once.

 

[Zenge142]

OMG! I just had the forum eat like a thousand word post.

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[justafluff]

If there isn't a faction that's you know is a threat, you argument isn't based on anything. There's zero reason to protect their identities if you think they'd make us lose by surviving. That's what I've said no less than five times already.

If you know those factions, you should have said something by now. And, if you don't know exclusive factions exists, again, where is this "We know other factions exist" coming from and why is me saying they matter less than wolves (if they matter at all) problematic in the world where you both know them and view them as nonthreatening?

Sorry to jump in AM, but this again sounds like fishing. Whether you re a wolf or not, naming the factions benefits other factions in some way. And if you claim you have no idea about other factions then your role/ wincon is obv different than several of us, so I don’t know why you keep pushing on getting more info if you re village-aligned.

1. SAR isn't a noob.
2. Everyone who voted you gave a reason. I don't see how you can paint that as random.

SAR said Zuri seems the “scummiest” among 3-4 names, which isn’t much of a reason imo.
Veggie… I don’t even remember their reason but it didn’t make sense and it was an one-liner in the spectrum of “Zuri is wolfy”
Mothy literally gave no reason lol.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Sorry to jump in AM, but this again sounds like fishing. Whether you re a wolf or not, naming the factions benefits other factions in some way. And if you claim you have no idea about other factions then your role/ wincon is obv different than several of us, so I don’t know why you keep pushing on getting more info if you re village-aligned.

SAR said Zuri seems the “scummiest” which isn’t much of a reason imo.
Veggie… I don’t even remember their reason but it didn’t make sense and it was an one-liner in the spectrum of “Zuri is wolfy”
Mothy literally gave no reason lol.

Awful strong defense for someone who's "afraid of zuri."

Yes, naming exclusive factions benefits village. Hiding it hurts village. If outting exclusives is fishing fypov, you need to be yeeted before endgame.

 

[justafluff]

Awful strong defense for someone who's "afraid of zuri."

Yes, naming exclusive factions benefits village. Hiding it hurts village. If outting exclusives is fishing fypov, you need to be yeeted before endgame.

Sure, he’s a capable player and a very capable wolf so I joked im afraid of him. But I’m frustrated about this back and forth esp since the second point you made about the rest of the votes is simply not true.

I’m pretty sure DubZ and others advised against revealing more and focusing on wolfhunting, so I don’t get how naming factions is beneficial.

Btw I don’t need to survive to endgame since I’m not 3p. That’s something you and DubZ assumed and I never confirmed.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Sure, he’s a capable player and a very capable wolf so I joked im afraid of him. But I’m frustrated about this back and forth esp since the second point you made about the rest of the votes is simply not true.

It is true. Either you're doing the same thing you did in both of your last two games (remember the outcome?) or you're scum who's intentionally hindering gamesolving. Random =/= reasoning no matter how "weak."

moth did give reasoning btw and I fail to see how "he's wolfy" is a bad reason to vote someone.

I’m pretty sure DubZ and others advised against revealing more and focusing on wolfhunting, so I don’t get how naming factions is beneficial.

Yes, to zuri who is continuously pushing a flawed tinfoil and, as a result, yeeting me on refuted weak reasoning.

You truly don't see how naming an exclusive faction is beneficial?

Btw I don’t need to survive to endgame since I’m not 3p. That’s something you and DubZ assumed and I never confirmed.

I didn't say you were 3p. But yes, I will be yeeting you in the future if I keep seeing this pattern of behavior.

 

[alleycat03]

I'm here! Forgot to watch the thread RIP

My child has appeared!!

 

[alleycat03]

No, I was village in my noob game. I don’t think I was trying to play up the chaos? I was trying to be a helpful Padawan (for both villagers and woofs) but I don’t know if that came through to the ppl in manator/ tot chat

It did not. We thought you were the wolfiest wolf to ever wolf

Ergo why I do not trust my read of you now

 

[alleycat03]

Based on the wiki of characters, there are more than 3 categories/factions, no?

List of characters in Fire Emblem: Three Houses

The following page is a list of characters that appear in Fire Emblem: Three Houses. *From update 1.1.0 onwards, Jeritza is a free DLC character for the Crimson Flower route. He will appear as an NPC in earlier versions of the game. **Requires purchase of the Expansion Pass as of update 1.1.0...

fireemblem.fandom.com

Bold of you to assume any of us would read this

(but I do appreciate you sharing b/c I do not know what’s going on with the theme)

 

[alleycat03]

Ngl I also didn't know there were 3 houses. But also I don't feel like the game would be limited to just the 3 houses since there are at least a group of wolves as well

Umm until this post I thought it was “3 horses” not “3 houses” based on the thread name 😂

 

[alleycat03]

That is just so many people. This is why I haven't ever played a JRPG, and probably never will.

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What is JRPG
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[alleycat03]

Hi! I promise I haven't been lurking all day, I just had my interview at K-State. I am semi-caught up, but will read more when I get back later this evening. 🙂

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YAY I hope it went well!!
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[alleycat03]

To be clear, it wasn't because of the traveling or the alcohol 😉

Then what was it for?

 

[alleycat03]

Are you village reading April?

Neutral. I did just get to the exchange between her and Dubz about the factions and I’m pondering if I feel the same way Dubz did

 

[alleycat03]

Dubz pls you know that when I'm not understanding something, I genuinely don't understand it

Except that one time

But that was out of desperation

What are you referring to?

 

[alleycat03]

What questions were dismissed?

And I think you're wrong I've played a ton of games with 3ps, and several factional games, I've modded them too. Wolves don't come in like "Let's focus on wolfhunting guys!" when they have the opportunity to take advantage of things being more complex and confusing. They don't brush off attempts at tinfoiling because that stuff benefits them. If anything, letting everyone else talk about that and speculate gives them even more information.

Unless the wolf pack is 100% noobs (which is not what you're implying, since you think AM and I are wolfing), they know it's a faction game, they know there are going to be other wincons here. I can 1000% guarantee I would assume that there would be various wincons going on from the start. And I promise you I read my role PM lol

What was the last factional game @Animal Midwife ?

 

[alleycat03]

Me and Zoo are officially loverized masons, if u kill them I die too 🤗

What? Are you serious? Usually I wouldn’t ask that but I have no idea if this is just a typical joke for you or if you’re legit being serious 😅

 

[alleycat03]

I accidentally got us to the airport 2 hours early (upsetting the fiancé oops) and I’m still not caught up. Will be back in a few hours.

Yeet genny

 

[alleycat03]

Then what was it for?

Btw I figured out why you were yeeting her @WildZoo and I agree that it’s scummy

 

[Santygrass]

I'm going to do what is called a pro-gamer move

Unyeet genny
yeet Veggie

 

[genny]

@genny
is it possible to get u to post some real content?
you are overly fluffy, and it doesn't fill my brain with any good thoughts on your slot

here is a question, currently we have the highest trains, what do u think of my slot, and more specifically Nate's vote on me?

I’m generally fluffy. It gets me yeeted a lot.

As for your slot, I don’t think you’re an easy read from what I’ve seen of your champs play so I understand the caution. I would be very surprised though if you actually get yeeted today. Nate’s vote on you seems safe for him.

 

[SARdoghandler]

In any case it seems pretty clear we aren’t aligned so it’s probably right for both of us to be yeeting each other.

So you don't see any world in which you and AM are v/v? In your opinion, this is a scum/v interaction?

was just throwing something out that was mostly a joke to say something and then I developed my thoughts over time

Lol this is the exact thing I do as a wolf and it backfired on me every time

1. SAR isn't a noob.

 

[SportPonies]

*cracks knuckles*

I’m here to count posts.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Anyone who has played games I created or played with me knows I love mechanics. I am the anti-midwife. To me, the most fun is finding wolves through mechanics. Having said that, the discussion yesterday is off the rails and mostly a waste of space so early. If I were a wolf, I would just sit back and watch the village burn. No need to stick your neck out when everyone is distracted from the job at hand.
So to me, those who added little to the mechanics discussion are actually more suspect than those involved. Just as a presumption between 2 people equally suspicious or not.
so, let’s cut that out and focus on finding the bad guys.

having said that, I find it extremely weird that AM didn’t go off on her usual mechanics rant to the degree I recall her doing. Now, maybe she has mellowed in the past year, but that does put her on the more rather than less wolfy side, but I tend to be suspicious of her every game I play so not ready to go there yet.

im gonna stick with my PSV vote cause she has said little of value, and her reply to my yeet, was a joke.

 

[StartingoverVet]

I don’t envy you that job sportponies.

 

[SARdoghandler]

The funniest part to me about the post max is that there have been ~550 posts. So if Dubz has hit her max already then she is single handedly responsible for 1/5 posts in a post restricted game

#onbrand

 

[Wiisp]

OMG! I just had the forum eat like a thousand word post.

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#skillissue