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I wasn't even voting for Weim today. What are you on about? And is it not valid to want to hear others thoughts?

What does the bolded mean?

Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you just sleep deprived? I had you as village in Dogs. Your post where I supposedly said "Idk about AM" had nothing to do with whether I thought you were wolf or village. Again, idk why we're even talking about this. You're wrong, get over it and prove you're not a wolf this game.

Do you still think Weim would be a decent vote seeing as you voted for her D1 with no reason other than "she's not around"?
 
it's kind of an unspoken rule to not lynch the quiet players until mid game, not really interested in piling onto someone who hasn't posted the entire day within the first couple days, and I think it's not really productive to take that seriously at this point... even if we went and said "let's lynch gwen" uh, there is nothing to evaluate, and if she flips village then you're going to feel guilty for lynching someone who isn't on to defend themselves. So with like moose and kara, yeah, those are kind of the same deals.

Since when? I don't remember this rule.
 
Do you think she's a villager?

MOOSE? I felt better about her from today’s posts and she flipped village. Kara stayed neutral which is more wolfy imo. You want to answer that question you avoided?

Eta- m to more
 
Frak this is why I can't do the quotes thing, by the time I collect quotes for a big box, I forget the context and what I wanted to say. This is why I typically hit reply to each message and immediately comment, and why I don't read everything to catch up to current and then comment. It flies out of my brain.

Wolf me has a fake narrative, so it's actually easier for me generate content that is not married so closely to the thread and individual posts, btw. I mean call it WIFOM all you want, I definitely do this as a villager (make comments about my gameplay and why it happens the way it does). Anyone can make an effort to do anything as a wolf with intention. The point I'm making here, is here are my thoughts, you decide what is probable. I posted a thing the last game discussing that by nature of the game WW, all things are possible, insert tinfoil hat. But some things are more probable than others, and successful villaging basically relies on one being able to tease that out.



I have notes, and since I'm not EXHAUSTED today like I was yesterday, I hope to make a good reads box and utilize that. Pretty excited actually. I wanted to reply here so I wouldn't forget and to let you know I see this and will get to it.



Lol except that time that AM got you lynch me at lylo and win the game. Not salty. Just a fond memory of one of our lylos together.



2. Lmao. What is this? It's like you took notes about what happened with WM and AM, and now think this is a good way to get an easy mislynch D2 without looking too suspicious. I find it suspicious on the tails of that discussion. I've never seen someone call for someone's death after so little analysis that you've offered so far.



3. Ziggy, you obsess a little much on how consistent people are being. Yes, that is one way to look for wolves. But villagers are inconsistent af because they are in the dark, and that actually makes it more difficult to be consistent. Apparently this instance of quotes with no comments was more confusing to me than when AM did it, and that confusion and annoyance and perception that this was happening more than I liked, prompted me to say something.

While I replied to dolph's post doing this, it wasn't actually directed at anyone specific, hence why I did not call anyone out by name by voting anyone. I'm not going to analyze every time I see someone pulling this game move. Sure, sometimes it's fine. Sometimes it isn't. But I want it to stop and not become a village habit.

Not to mention, when you go to quote someone's post only quoting someone, it doesn't actually show anything in the post. It's therefore annoying to get clarification by hitting reply and asking that person, hey, why did you quote these posts and say nothing? What are you trying to say?

Like, what is the problem here? Generally, if you quote people, you should be able to offer a few words as to why. Sometimes for brevity I don't reread the whole damn quotes, I just read what someone had to write about it, and reread the quotes if I need to.

Or is saving time and making communication easier for the crowd not a reasonable thing to ask villagers to do for each other?





Good for you, I guess.
1. you're having issues because I sound cocky? where? when? petty AF dude
2. that is super sketchy and not true. I have seen people vote for others with less analysis
3. nope, I'm not being obsessive. you're being hypocritical. You called dolphin out for doing something that AM did directly above her. At least be consistent
4. (the rest of this)
GET
OFF
MY
ASS

You have proven time and time again you are completely incapable of interpreting ANYTHING I say correctly. This doesn't even really warrant a response because it is just 100% wrong. You might get further in this game if you stopped to think that other people can see things a different way then you and not be illogical or wrong. I literally won village the last game, so don't even try to talk ****. I had a great plan and saw it through. And I was the one lynching a wolf at the end, you lynching a villager. But, oh, I would get further if I... UH NO I HAVE CONSISTENTLY GONE FAR IN GAMES LAY OFF

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and I corrected that I was not calling dolphin out for it specifically, ESPECIALLY when I said IN THAT POST that it was bad gameplay and I would go after the NEXT person who did it.

It was an example. It doesn't mean I was trying to crucify anyone in specific. Why do I say that? Because I see more players than Dolphin doing it.

So there is nothing inconsistent. When I have a thought in reaction to a post, I hit reply and share my thoughts. They are usually related to that particular post, but that doesn't always mean I'm criticizing that particular person. Just you misreading again with some sort of obsession on consistency that just isn't good.

Why do I say that? Guess what everyone, two players can do a thing, and a 3rd player may call out the 2nd and not the 1st. 100 reasons why this happens, not the least of which is just plain overlooking something.

It's reasonable to ask if someone is singling someone out, why this person and not that person. But sometimes a villager will reply "Just cuz this is what I did."

I STILL DO NOT SEE WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH SAYING "HEY EVERYONE QUOTING STUFF AND NOT COMMENTING, CAN YOU PLEASE SAY SOMETHING OF YOUR OWN WORDS"

This is what I'm talking about, Ziggy, that you don't seem capable of realizing I was not calling out AM or Dolphin as being wolfy or any such thing. I DO NOT LIKE THE OBSERVATION OF QUOTES AND NO COMMENT and to be frank I'm not even sure I'm registering who's doing it, beyond the fact that I hate seeing it. Universal statement. Just. Stop.

What is even wrong with you people right now?

As far as you being cocky, well, you just went ahead and did it right now.

Uh, you think it's some sort of statement of me sucking in my voting last game where I was voting at the end? Let's consider why I was voting a villager, aka YOU. Because YOU would not get off me. Because YOU couldn't understand what others seemed to, which is that Skim and SP were legit NK choices. Maybe that's not what you would do as a wolf. Kay.

As far as you being cocky, YOU easily could have lost us the game with the tie manuver. Because rather than relying on RNG to win the game for us, we could have won by voting Dina. I'm not saying the responsibility for that relies solely on you. But anyone who was VOTING A VILLAGER AT LYLO doesn't get to pat themselves on the back.

Which is freaking hilarious because I gave reasoning for voting Mel and DocE AND WAS CORRECT when there was every hurdle for me not to be correct (I was a sub in the game, it was very shortly before deadline, yet I was able to identify actual sound reasons they were wolves and correctly vote), yet was, AND YOU gave ME a hard time for patting myself on the back.

Which is rich, because it was only in response to all your freaking hate that I showed up late and got two wolves, that I even said blow me that game, and you were like try not to break your arm patting yourself on the back. And now look here you are patting yourself on the back for an RNG win. Mostly because you couldn't sway Dubz, btw. Do you not even see how anti-village your little pouty comment was, and why that put you on my radar?

Which brings me to another point, I was late to the game, and almost from the start, ASKED WHY DO WE THINK DINA IS A WOLF. So you not succeeding in getting me lynched, you not making the case for the ACTUAL wolf, does not to me seem like something to brag about. Good gameplay is both identifying wolves, and convincing villagers to vote with you. And it isn't winning a lylo by creating a tie and letting RNG do the rest. From what I can tell, we had 50% or more chance of a villager having died.

I'm not trying to crucify you for that game, but you're the one that brought it up just now, in the same breath of saying "I'm not cocky or arrogant." Lol.
 
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you just sleep deprived? I had you as village in Dogs. Your post where I supposedly said "Idk about AM" had nothing to do with whether I thought you were wolf or village. Again, idk why we're even talking about this. You're wrong, get over it and prove you're not a wolf this game.

Do you still think Weim would be a decent vote seeing as you voted for her D1 with no reason other than "she's not around"?

Sure looked like it to me, but agree to disagree I guess. I can prove I'm not a wolf, but that doesn't mean you're reading my posts.

I didn't vote her because she wasn't around. See my initial reasoning and I was waiting for her to come back and respond to it and the thread.
 
Hey @ziggyandjazzy @Crayola227 what is all this bickering about old games on thread accomplishing?

Y'all know it's literally impossible for a village of 1 to win, right?
The only reason I'm bringing it up, is because THIS game, but as part of a pattern, I'm seeing Ziggy use logic that she seems unable to consider another viewpoint on. I'm about to ISO and give examples from this game.
 
Why is everybody arguing about old games

It's stressing me out

Because I've said AM is sketchy to me and she said I've misread her in the past 5 games. Which is a straight up lie. No idea what she's trying to accomplish, but I'd rather hear some solid reasons from her for reads (which is starting to happen) than her try and defend by saying "you suck at reading me" and citing completely incorrect points as her evidence.

Sorry if it's stressing you out, but people posting opinions as facts or completely incorrect statements as facts annoys the f out of me and activates my salt mode. Especially when they're using those statements to side-step actual conversations.

Getting back to the game, still waiting for your top wolf reads...

Sure looked like it to me, but agree to disagree I guess. I can prove I'm not a wolf, but that doesn't mean you're reading my posts.

I didn't vote her because she wasn't around. See my initial reasoning and I was waiting for her to come back and respond to it and the thread.

I'm reading your posts and seeing things I don't like. You said it was a pressure vote earlier, so not being around was part of it. Forgot about the liking thing though, so my bad there. Where does she sit with you now? Why is Kara neutral to you?
 
For now

Contingency Lynch Kara

I need to do some re-reads, but I had another reason I thought she was wolfy and I'd like to hear more from @Karabiner13
How many tags do you think it takes to summon people? With bryndi she seemed to need like 6 I think for her to appear. hehe
 
@Stagg737 some of it was gut feelings at first from how your posts were coming across while rereading. This stuff specifically is the best “evidence” I have. I find everyone questioning AM for this(the quotes about Weim) sketchy, bc I believe she’s done this tons of times over that I don’t get why it’s such an issue. And I think I saw you bring it up again tonight like it hasn’t already been asked and answered, even by Weim.

I thought AM was saying overall that Weim has been on before liking things and then wasn’t on and she didn’t like that, not that I agree with lynching for inactivity but I know people do it, but AM seemed to allude to lurking more than straight up inactivity. But even if you don’t agree with AM son those points I feel like it’s painfully obvious at this point what her Playstyle is and how she operates, so overall it just feels like starting a discussion about nothing, coupled with my gut feels gave you my vote.
Why was it again that you were so set on Weim? Did you legitimately not find anyone else on board sketchy?



You're right, it's not abnormal for her not to like the leading lynch candidates and place her vote somewhere else. It is abnormal for her to leave a vote on someone who didn't check in at all on D1 instead of moving her vote to someone she actually found sketchy.

Do you actually want her lynched?

Most of the leaders were boring to me.

So I had this whole nice post typed with quotes and all and then they restarted the server and it all poofed -__- so I'll get back to that eventually but main points:

Ok well that was a crap load of random tangents.

Uhhh ironically the person I'm feeling best about is AM. She's definitely acting like herself.

Didn't love Stagg coming out with a blatant joke vote for sporty half hour before lynch close and then changed to a legit vote only 5 min before lynch close.

A few other pings but I'm going to have to go dig around again later, maybe tomorrow AM.

Sorry I've been MIA. I came off overnights from the weekend so checked this thread (and AM is right, I did like some things) before I went to bed this morning but legit forgot about this and also have been at work
 
it's kind of an unspoken rule to not lynch the quiet players until mid game, not really interested in piling onto someone who hasn't posted the entire day within the first couple days, and I think it's not really productive to take that seriously at this point... even if we went and said "let's lynch gwen" uh, there is nothing to evaluate, and if she flips village then you're going to feel guilty for lynching someone who isn't on to defend themselves. So with like moose and kara, yeah, those are kind of the same deals.
Exactly my issue with some of the games we play. It only encourages players like Allie (although she's been doing better lately), MJ, and others to continue ghosting and give us 0 things to evaluate them. If we got a little more ruthless with lynching inactives it'd force them to start participating and actually playing the game in a constructive way.

/personal frustrations with playstyles.

Even when it’s for someone you think is wolfy?
yes even then.
 
Also I think the way I typed one of my sentences as “I find everyone questioning AM sketchy” but I meant it in a way of this specific topic. I like to question AM all the time, so I definitely encourage that.
 
I mean, my vote was first and foremost about wolf-hunting. As I said, a Moose or Kara flip would give more info. Would I have voted AM if there was a chance she'd actually get lynched? Yea. Was there a chance she'd actually get lynched? No. Plus I'd rather not die stupidly like in the Hiking game pushing a lynch no one else wanted that was farther down my sketch list.



Just a possibility? Do you not VCA or look at who the lynched player interacted with?
LMAO

clearly I never do any VCA ever or look at lynched players actions, that's just for amateurs
 
I love greyhounds and tabby cats.



Thanks Cray I'll keep it in mind. He's been reading village so far and you thinking the same makes me more confident as I'm pretty sure Mel has said you're one of the only people who is good at reading him.

I am easily pocketed however...
You tryin to pocket me again or what
 
I am feeling better about Cray. Still not sure on Kara who has not been on all day so it's still D1 information on her.

I don't like where Ski was trying to go which seemed to be no where. She had her vote on me, claimed to be continuing thoughts on me from yesterday, but rejected every thought that I echo'd from her yesterday as her not saying it's sketch but it's just notes. So @SkiOtter if everything you said about me and everyone else yesterday WASN'T sketch, then what is?

ZJ - Lynch close write up made us aware we weren't supposed to be PMing anymore. Oops. Well, what's done is done but someone has been very actively trying to be agreeable and complimentary in PM today but not saying much on thread. Since we aren't any longer PM partners I feel that's worth sharing 😉

AM - this is day 2 of voting for somebody not posting on the thread for nearly the entire day. It concerns me. Her questions keep coming but yes, she can ask questions as a wolf just as easily. The concern is when they aren't producing wolves or answers.
 
Because I've said AM is sketchy to me and she said I've misread her in the past 5 games. Which is a straight up lie. No idea what she's trying to accomplish, but I'd rather hear some solid reasons from her for reads (which is starting to happen) than her try and defend by saying "you suck at reading me" and citing completely incorrect points as her evidence.

Sorry if it's stressing you out, but people posting opinions as facts or completely incorrect statements as facts annoys the f out of me and activates my salt mode. Especially when they're using those statements to side-step actual conversations.

Getting back to the game, still waiting for your top wolf reads...



I'm reading your posts and seeing things I don't like. You said it was a pressure vote earlier, so not being around was part of it. Forgot about the liking thing though, so my bad there. Where does she sit with you now? Why is Kara neutral to you?

I'm not side-stepping anything. You're the one that started wolf reading me with no context that I had to drag out of you.

No. The pressure vote was because I thought she's come back and we could talk. Weim is neutral to me. Kara neutral because I'm largely unfamiliar with her new village playing style and how it differs from her new wolf playing style. Mel says he see something there though so I'm just letting it play out.
 
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bein hypocritical again here
OMFG IT IS NOT HYPOCRITICAL

WHY ARE YOU SO FREAKING BLACK AND WHITE

WIFOM - MafiaWiki
Many times analyzing night kills, especially unexpected night kills, is considered WIFOM, as only the killers can say with certainty why someone died. At present, night-kill analysis is considered simply another possibly-reliable piece of evidence, neither useless nor authoritative.

NKA is fine, BUT AS I'VE SAID YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND BALANCED WITH IT. IF IT IS NOT MAKING SENSE OR GIVING YOU GOOD LEADS, THEN YOU SHOULD ABANDON IT BECAUSE

ONLY THE WOLVES KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THEY DID AND WHY

I'm of the opinion you're having a hard time telling which is which, just as you're seeing my stance on NKA overall and my questions to merely consider should they yield reasonable theories about Barkley, as inconsistent.

it's *this* example of your obsession with inconsistency and inability to grasp nuance that is making me lose my cool

YOU last game used NKA repeatedly as though it were authoritative. This game you are finding it hard to reconcile that while I do not find it authoritative, nor do I find it useless.

You are also calling people out for voting those who are not on or have not played in a while. Yes, these are sometimes used as ways that people will defend other players, BUT IT ISN'T BLACK AND WHITE. It does not mean that people are inconsistent in a way that matters.

I'll give you another example.

I intially defended that BJ's wagon didn't look good, mostly because I didn't like that people were voting her for saying "I hate all this math talk" "Oh wait I have something to say to Cray about it." That's totally natural. The contentious conversations we wish would go away are typically the ones someone has a hard time holding their piece on. It's an example of "Oh look you're not being consistent!!!!!!!!! let's vote you!" kinda vote THAT IS MAKING ME LOSE MY **** THIS GAME. BJ can hate the math talk yet find it impossible to overcome an urge to reply. Both can be true. Neither is a sign of inconsistency consistent with a lie.

People will be inconsistent. The thing to determine is, is this consistent with them being TRUTHFUL or the way their brain works. To thine own self be true, adapted to WW, are they being true to themselves. Knowing that people will contradict themselves, be hypocritical, and that is NOT the surefire way to catch a wolf. It's the way in which they do it.
 
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so cray you going to Lynch AM now or what? I think you said you would Lynch the next person to do this and so far as I can tell this is it
edit it didn't insert the post she made because there was no commentary, it's 1028
 
OMFG IT IS NOT HYPOCRITICAL

WHY ARE YOU SO FREAKING BLACK AND WHITE

WIFOM - MafiaWiki
Many times analyzing night kills, especially unexpected night kills, is considered WIFOM, as only the killers can say with certainty why someone died. At present, night-kill analysis is considered simply another possibly-reliable piece of evidence, neither useless nor authoritative.

NKA is fine, BUT AS I'VE SAID YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND BALANCED WITH IT. IF IT IS NOT MAKING SENSE OR GIVING YOU GOOD LEADS, THEN YOU SHOULD ABANDON IT BECAUSE

ONLY THE WOLVES KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THEY DID AND WHY

I'm of the opinion you're having a hard time telling which is which, just as you're seeing my stance on NKA overall and my questions to merely consider should they yield reasonable theories about Barkley, as inconsistent.

it's *this* example of your obsession with inconsistency and inability to grasp nuance that is making me lose my cool

YOU last game used NKA repeatedly as though it were authoritative. This game you are finding it hard to reconcile that while I do not find it authoritative, nor do I find it useless.

You are also calling people out for voting those who are not on or have not played in a while. Yes, these are sometimes used as ways that people will defend other players, BUT IT ISN'T BLACK AND WHITE. It does not mean that people are inconsistent in a way that matters.

I'll give you another example.

I intially defended that BJ's wagon didn't look good, mostly because I didn't like that people were voting her for saying "I hate all this math talk" "Oh wait I have something to say to Cray about it." That's totally natural. The contentious conversations we wish would go away are typically the ones someone has a hard time holding their piece on. It's an example of "Oh look you're not being consistent!!!!!!!!! let's vote you!" kinda vote THAT IS MAKING ME LOSE MY **** THIS GAME. BJ can hate the math talk yet find it impossible to overcome an urge to reply. Both can be true. Neither is a sign of inconsistency consistent with a lie.

People will be inconsistent. The thing to determine is, is this consistent with them being TRUTHFUL or the way their brain works. To thine own self be true, adapted to WW, are they being true to themselves. Knowing that people will contradict themselves, be hypocritical, and that is NOT the surefire way to catch a wolf. It's the way in which they do it.
not going to read this because I can guarantee I will find 0 utility in it
 
Exactly my issue with some of the games we play. It only encourages players like Allie (although she's been doing better lately), MJ, and others to continue ghosting and give us 0 things to evaluate them. If we got a little more ruthless with lynching inactives it'd force them to start participating and actually playing the game in a constructive way.

/personal frustrations with playstyles.


yes even then.
Again, here's a good example. Mel thinking Kara is a wolf, yet not liking a pile up of votes related to her lynch close to deadline, are not inconsistencies. This game is complex. People are complex. Honest smart or well meaning villagers are complex. People can hold two opposing viewpoints at the same time.

Would it be better play for Mel to ignore what he thinks might be a problematic pattern for deadline just because his favoured candidate is involved? Mel acknowledging that he could be wrong about a player he wants to lynch is not a wolfy sign of inconsistency per se. Smart villagers will always entertain the possibility they may be wrong and will be on the look out for anything they think is concerning, especially if it contradicts what they believe. Being open to being wrong is the only way to not get fooled by wolves you unwittingly trust. Because one of the only sure things to know in WW as a villager, is that someone you think is a wolf will turn out not to be, and someone you trust will turn out to be a wolf. Count on it. Be prepared for it.
 
not going to read this because I can guarantee I will find 0 utility in it
of course you won't, you're too closed minded which is exactly my problem with you

but I see you are so good at this game you have no reason to consider that your thinking is too simplistic when it's pointed out to you
 
and I corrected that I was not calling dolphin out for it specifically, ESPECIALLY when I said IN THAT POST that it was bad gameplay and I would go after the NEXT person who did it.

It was an example. It doesn't mean I was trying to crucify anyone in specific. Why do I say that? Because I see more players than Dolphin doing it.

So there is nothing inconsistent. When I have a thought in reaction to a post, I hit reply and share my thoughts. They are usually related to that particular post, but that doesn't always mean I'm criticizing that particular person. Just you misreading again with some sort of obsession on consistency that just isn't good.

Why do I say that? Guess what everyone, two players can do a thing, and a 3rd player may call out the 2nd and not the 1st. 100 reasons why this happens, not the least of which is just plain overlooking something.

It's reasonable to ask if someone is singling someone out, why this person and not that person. But sometimes a villager will reply "Just cuz this is what I did."

I STILL DO NOT SEE WHAT IS THE ISSUE WITH SAYING "HEY EVERYONE QUOTING STUFF AND NOT COMMENTING, CAN YOU PLEASE SAY SOMETHING OF YOUR OWN WORDS"

This is what I'm talking about, Ziggy, that you don't seem capable of realizing I was not calling out AM or Dolphin as being wolfy or any such thing. I DO NOT LIKE THE OBSERVATION OF QUOTES AND NO COMMENT and to be frank I'm not even sure I'm registering who's doing it, beyond the fact that I hate seeing it. Universal statement. Just. Stop.

What is even wrong with you people right now?

As far as you being cocky, well, you just went ahead and did it right now.

Uh, you think it's some sort of statement of me sucking in my voting last game where I was voting at the end? Let's consider why I was voting a villager, aka YOU. Because YOU would not get off me. Because YOU couldn't understand what others seemed to, which is that Skim and SP were legit NK choices. Maybe that's not what you would do as a wolf. Kay.

As far as you being cocky, YOU easily could have lost us the game with the tie manuver. Because rather than relying on RNG to win the game for us, we could have won by voting Dina. I'm not saying the responsibility for that relies solely on you. But anyone who was VOTING A VILLAGER AT LYLO doesn't get to pat themselves on the back.

Which is freaking hilarious because I gave reasoning for voting Mel and DocE AND WAS CORRECT when there was every hurdle for me not to be correct (I was a sub in the game, it was very shortly before deadline, yet I was able to identify actual sound reasons they were wolves and correctly vote), yet was, AND YOU gave ME a hard time for patting myself on the back.

Which is rich, because it was only in response to all your freaking hate that I showed up late and got two wolves, that I even said blow me that game, and you were like try not to break your arm patting yourself on the back. And now look here you are patting yourself on the back for an RNG win. Mostly because you couldn't sway Dubz, btw. Do you not even see how anti-village your little pouty comment was, and why that put you on my radar?

Which brings me to another point, I was late to the game, and almost from the start, ASKED WHY DO WE THINK DINA IS A WOLF. So you not succeeding in getting me lynched, you not making the case for the ACTUAL wolf, does not to me seem like something to brag about. Good gameplay is both identifying wolves, and convincing villagers to vote with you. And it isn't winning a lylo by creating a tie and letting RNG do the rest. From what I can tell, we had 50% or more chance of a villager having died.

I'm not trying to crucify you for that game, but you're the one that brought it up just now, in the same breath of saying "I'm not cocky or arrogant." Lol.
Literally what the **** are you even talking about. I could not have lost us the game with the tie maneuver. It won the game, even dubs said so. RNG didn't give us the game, dubs and my voting did.

And with that
Lynch cray

you're not even worth responding to at this point.
 
@Stagg737 some of it was gut feelings at first from how your posts were coming across while rereading. This stuff specifically is the best “evidence” I have. I find everyone questioning AM for this(the quotes about Weim) sketchy, bc I believe she’s done this tons of times over that I don’t get why it’s such an issue. And I think I saw you bring it up again tonight like it hasn’t already been asked and answered, even by Weim.

I thought AM was saying overall that Weim has been on before liking things and then wasn’t on and she didn’t like that, not that I agree with lynching for inactivity but I know people do it, but AM seemed to allude to lurking more than straight up inactivity. But even if you don’t agree with AM son those points I feel like it’s painfully obvious at this point what her Playstyle is and how she operates, so overall it just feels like starting a discussion about nothing, coupled with my gut feels gave you my vote.

There are other issues I have with AM's play so far. Some probably too tunnelly, some more legit. I'm slightly more comfortable with her tonight. I haven't seen anything confirmatory either way for me yet though, and she's still on my sketchy side.
 
Seems a bit hypocritical again, dontcha think
yeah, that was minutes before close, and you'll see I followed it up in my next post with my reasoning

COME OFF IT ZIGGY YOU ARE BEING RIDICULOUS IN HOW YOU READ THESE SITUATIONS

if I had tried to make it in one post, which is my intention and a good guide to go by, I risked missing deadline entirely

so I still gave a vote and shortly thereafter where it should be easy to find, gave a reason

it was only broken up because that's what was needed for the situation

but I can see you have a hard time with that
 
That wasn’t rhetorical

I would leave the tie, actually, unless I had a strong reason to believe one was a more powerful PR or modcleared. Nothing is ever worth killing any of your village read unless it's self-prez.
 
so cray you going to Lynch AM now or what? I think you said you would Lynch the next person to do this and so far as I can tell this is it
edit it didn't insert the post she made because there was no commentary, it's 1028
aha, see the problem when people don't make any comments when they quote things?

again, you're being literal, I said I would lynch the next person and it was clearly me dramatically trying to say STOP IT

also, you can't bother to read my posts but like to say as much, I am not going to do anything in this game because you suggest it, I don't trust your judgement whatsoever
 
I'm not step stepping anything. You're the one that started wolf reading me with no context that I had to drag out of you.

No. The pressure vote was because I thought she's come back and we could talk. Weim is neutral to me. Kara neutral because I'm largely unfamiliar with her new village playing style and how it differs from her new wolf playing style. Mel says he see something there though so I'm just letting it play out.

What context did you drag out of me again? Because as far as I know I still haven't written out my full reasons...

What if Kara flipped village? Wolf?
 
I'm going to start hitting everyone with a Get Along Stick, I swear.

I'm pretty sure I once wrote @Animal Midwife a four paragraph post about how much I hated her in one game. I definitely wrote several long, angry, bitter, capslocked, expletive filled posts to @PippyPony about how I wanted her dead in the same game where I wrote all that other stuff to AM!

And y'all are stressing me out with this meaningless argument about nothing

Y'all are stressing me out so much I looked up the damn hand clap emoji!

Edit and it won't even show up in this post! But I want you all to imagine the sound of phantom claps, because that is what is coming at you right now
 
What context did you drag out of me again? Because as far as I know I still haven't written out my full reasons...

What if Kara flipped village? Wolf?

Please write the full reason then. I assumed me not voting for the leaders was the issue.

If Kara flipped village, I'd be exactly in the same spot I am now. If she flipped wolf, I'd have some more village reads.
 
I'm going to start hitting everyone with a Get Along Stick, I swear.

I'm pretty sure I once wrote @Animal Midwife a four paragraph post about how much I hated her in one game. I definitely wrote several long, angry, bitter, capslocked, expletive filled posts to @PippyPony about how I wanted her dead in the same game where I wrote all that other stuff to AM!

And y'all are stressing me out with this meaningless argument about nothing

Y'all are stressing me out so much I looked up the damn hand clap emoji!

Edit and it won't even show up in this post! But I want you all to imagine the sound of phantom claps, because that is what is coming at you right now

Sooooooo, you ever going to answer my question?
 
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