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[potentialsheltervet]

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I have an assignment to do so instead I'm making to make a rough reads list. (in no particular order within groups)

G'day govna:
AM
JJJ
samac
Boq
Santy

Pip pip cheerio:
SAR
dya
Stagg
Clem
Nate
marmot

I say:
chic
shelter
genny
mayo

I think per gut feels, marmot is town. Nate and Clem probably town too. I know others town-read SAR so probably should leave her alone. I haven't really gotten any strong feels there anyhow. dya is a big question mark for me. Not sure how to handle their slot. Ditto for Stagg.
I really don't think everyone in my red category is the pack ™️ but that's kind of where I stand.

 

[Animal Midwife]

This is fair.
I don’t know what he’s doing tbh.
And hasn’t there been a game where I tried to go through all the possibilities and was just left with his enigma ass and he was wolfing? @Animal Midwife

Yes. That was that tiny game.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Do we think he’s doing it himself?

I thought he essentially admitted it?

 

[genny]

if any broadly town-read player (or otherwise, a player you think is comfortable in the game state) is not town/village, who is that most likely to be?

so we're just chucking the town core then? how do you manage to sound so village when you say things like this? you know who wants to push everyone back in the eel pool? wolves.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

so we're just chucking the town core then? how do you manage to sound so village when you say things like this? you know who wants to push everyone back in the eel pool? wolves.

ehhh this is a pretty village genny thing to say

 

[Animal Midwife]

I mean, mayo literally used words to vote so I'm, again, 90% certain it's self-induced.

 

[Stagg737]

Nate and Clem probably town too

Why?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

so we're just chucking the town core then? how do you manage to sound so village when you say things like this? you know who wants to push everyone back in the eel pool? wolves.

I explicitly said we don't have to do anything with the discussion, but we need to have it. Painting that as "chuck the town core" is silly. There's no other way to express that the gamestate is troubling and we need to at least consider alternatives.

If we do consider alternatives and then decide to stay the course, so be it. But we'd be very foolish to decline even asking the hard questions.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Why?

Gut instinct. I really can't do much better than that and I won't go down swinging for either one, but I just kinda get the impression they're not wolfing here.
Pressure there is whatever though because evaluating their responses would be cool. Except I doubt you'll get one from either tbh

 

[samac]

so we're just chucking the town core then? how do you manage to sound so village when you say things like this? you know who wants to push everyone back in the eel pool? wolves.

i think I’m having a hard time bringing everything together because we have 2 self inflicted village deaths.
I’m wanting to throw my reads list on its head, but this was only our first misyeet. Maybe it’s not time to go ape**** yet

 

[chicandtoughness]

Still trying to wrap my head around samac's supposed other tinkerer and what that means.

 

[samac]

Clem nate and marmot feel coasty and I don’t mean that just from a number of posts perspective and I don’t know if that’s normal for them.

 

[samac]

Still trying to wrap my head around samac's supposed other tinkerer and what that means.

I mean
Jay can confirm they exist

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I explicitly said we don't have to do anything with the discussion, but we need to have it. Painting that as "chuck the town core" is silly. There's no other way to express that the gamestate is troubling and we need to at least consider alternatives.

If we do consider alternatives and then decide to stay the course, so be it. But we'd be very foolish to decline even asking the hard questions.

To play devil's advocate, are we at that point yet, though? We've had technically one misyeet plus a jester. We couldn't really avoid the jester. Yeeting Veggie isn't ideal but that was the first official misyeet. We've had a lot of village deaths which is obnoxious but we do still have a rough consensus PoE (yeah, me included) and I'm not sure we're quite to the point of reevaluating consensus town reads.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Dumb mechanical question that I will ask anyway:

There was no night 0 kill. Should there have been? Earlier in the game some folks suggested there's precedent for that here. Have there been two non-kills in the first two "nights"?

 

[samac]

To play devil's advocate, are we at that point yet, though? We've had technically one misyeet plus a jester. We couldn't really avoid the jester. Yeeting Veggie isn't ideal but that was the first official misyeet. We've had a lot of village deaths which is obnoxious but we do still have a rough consensus PoE (yeah, me included) and I'm not sure we're quite to the point of reevaluating consensus town reads.

Hi child
Nice mind meld

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Clem nate and marmot feel coasty and I don’t mean that just from a number of posts perspective and I don’t know if that’s normal for them.

I can confirm Nate always feels like that. I know there was a game where he wolfed with Zenge and wound up getting yoten but I don't remember what felt different there.
I mean, Clem feels like Clem to me. Caveat that when you're Clemming it up I don't know how to read his aff
I would disagree that marmot is coasting actually.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Dumb mechanical question that I will ask anyway:

There was no night 0 kill. Should there have been? Earlier in the game some folks suggested there's precedent for that here. Have there been two non-kills in the first two "nights"?

I don't think there's any way to know the answer to this question.

 

[samac]

Dumb mechanical question that I will ask anyway:

There was no night 0 kill. Should there have been? Earlier in the game some folks suggested there's precedent for that here. Have there been two non-kills in the first two "nights"?

N0 is a mixed bag from my recollection.
Sometimes kills, sometimes not

 

[potentialsheltervet]

N0 is a mixed bag from my recollection.
Sometimes kills, sometimes not

HI MOM NICE MIND MELD

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To play devil's advocate, are we at that point yet, though? We've had technically one misyeet plus a jester. We couldn't really avoid the jester. Yeeting Veggie isn't ideal but that was the first official misyeet. We've had a lot of village deaths which is obnoxious but we do still have a rough consensus PoE (yeah, me included) and I'm not sure we're quite to the point of reevaluating consensus town reads.

I don't think we're at the hit the panic button and sound the alarm point yet, but we're certainly at the point of reconsidering our approach. Two misses in a row is not supposed to happen (I'm considering mkg to be a Day 1 miss). It can happen, and sometimes it does happen in games with rock-solid POEs. We should ask ourselves if that's how it usually works though. I tend to doubt we miss twice in a row if we're perfectly on the right track.

And I am usually someone who endorses keeping focus on a broad team hunting objective. We have to be dynamic in our approach as a village/town though, or we're liable to sleepwalk into a mess.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Clem nate and marmot feel coasty and I don’t mean that just from a number of posts perspective and I don’t know if that’s normal for them.

From the one game I modded, I expected more from marmot but I don't know if that's an outlier.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I mean
Jay can confirm they exist

I certainly received a thing.

It went bung, but I received it. I received two things, really.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I don't think we're at the hit the panic button and sound the alarm point yet, but we're certainly at the point of reconsidering our approach. Two misses in a row is not supposed to happen (I'm considering mkg to be a Day 1 miss). It can happen, and sometimes it does happen in games with rock-solid POEs. We should ask ourselves if that's how it usually works though. I tend to doubt we miss twice in a row if we're perfectly on the right track.

And I am usually someone who endorses keeping focus on a broad team hunting objective. We have to be dynamic in our approach as a village/town though, or we're liable to sleepwalk into a mess.

I see. I don't know if I agree on mkg being a miss per se given she wasn't voted out, but I suppose things were on that path. It's kind of hard to say.
imo I think the village core established atp is fine and the consensus PoE should continue to be evaluated. This is a larger ga

 

[chicandtoughness]

I mean
Jay can confirm they exist

I believe you. Totally possible but strange to have two tinkerers on town side. Which means your tinkerer could very well be a wolf tinkerer and tracing the items could give some insight. On the other hand, it's a jump to assume that so I don't know if it's something I should put brain power into.

 

[WildZoo]

Hi Dubz. The Steelers eat their own dandruff.

I hope Jay is having a little less fun than everyone else 😤

 

[potentialsheltervet]

hey, why did you post?
Anyway this is a larger game so I guess I don't really see it as a large failure. Certainly disappointing.

 

[Animal Midwife]

I don't think we're at the hit the panic button and sound the alarm point yet, but we're certainly at the point of reconsidering our approach. Two misses in a row is not supposed to happen (I'm considering mkg to be a Day 1 miss). It can happen, and sometimes it does happen in games with rock-solid POEs. We should ask ourselves if that's how it usually works though. I tend to doubt we miss twice in a row if we're perfectly on the right track.

And I am usually someone who endorses keeping focus on a broad team hunting objective. We have to be dynamic in our approach as a village/town though, or we're liable to sleepwalk into a mess.

I hesitate to call mkg a miss because you've seen how much wagons can change near EOD. We didn't even get to that point fiscal yesterday so maybe we would have gone after someone else.

 

[chicandtoughness]

I certainly received a thing.

It went bung, but I received it. I received two things, really.

Can you say more?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I hesitate to call mkg a miss because you've seen how much wagons can change near EOD. We didn't even get to that point fiscal yesterday so maybe we would have gone after someone else.

It's possible, sure. Who knows. I'm just kinda mentally truncating Day 1 at the moment shorty blew it up.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I certainly received a thing.

It went bung, but I received it. I received two things, really.

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Can you say more?

Already did. Lie detector and banana.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

It's possible, sure. Who knows. I'm just kinda mentally truncating Day 1 at the moment shorty blew it up.

I think that's the thing, though. D1 was jested so of course things would be in a kerfuffle at that point.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Already did. Lie detector and banana.

I doubt the latter's a tinkerer.

 

[chicandtoughness]

Already did. Lie detector and banana.

I gotchu, I misread your original post as if the banana was a consequence of the crazy infection fiasco. Did the eating do anything?

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I gotchu, I misread your original post as if the banana was a consequence of the crazy infection fiasco. Did the eating do anything?

It was tasty.

That's all I know lol

 

[samac]

The sneezing also scares me because there’s once I was infected with something that would kill me and everyone I PM’d with and AM saved all our asses
So like
What was that

 

[chicandtoughness]

I doubt the latter's a tinkerer.

Do people actually want to be this role though lmao.

... actually now that I think about it, we do have sand, a D0 death, and a stump.

So yeah. It checks out.

 

[samac]

It was tasty.

That's all I know lol

Omg someone is a fruit vendor lol

 

[chicandtoughness]

(inb4 everyone just chose named townie roles smh 🤣)

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Omg someone is a fruit vendor lol

Yes lol that's what I've gathered

 

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The sneezing also scares me because there’s once I was infected with something that would kill me and everyone I PM’d with and AM saved all our asses
So like
What was that

I thought it was very possible that I was poisoned and would die before I could break my silence. I was prepared to post my Jim Carrey rhino gif somewhere less pleasant.

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Do people actually want to be this role though lmao.

... actually now that I think about it, we do have sand, a D0 death, and a stump.

So yeah. It checks out.

Sure, I don't see why not.

 

[samac]

Sure, I don't see why not.

What have I learned this game?
I am a very very basic ass bitch and did not take full advantage of this theme

 

[potentialsheltervet]

What have I learned this game?
I am a very very basic ass bitch and did not take full advantage of this theme

Same 🙁

 

[Stagg737]

Current reads in order, the lower the better I feel about them:

Scum:
Clem
Shelter
genny

Sus leans:
PSV
Chic
Mayo

Marmot/Dy

Town leans:
Nate
SAR

AM/Santy

Presumed blocc:
JJJ/Boq/Samac


Molecular/Atomic wolf bag:
^ ^
(Dubz)
WWW

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Current reads in order, the lower the better I feel about them:

Scum:
Clem
Shelter
genny

Sus leans:
PSV
Chic
Mayo

Marmot/Dy

Town leans:
Nate
SAR

AM/Santy

Presumed blocc:
JJJ/Boq/Samac


Molecular/Atomic wolf bag:
Dubz

Clem at the very bottom?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Also I forgot to put Dubz on my reads list but I was going to just put her in a category saying "I hate sand"

 

[WildZoo]

Current reads in order, the lower the better I feel about them:

Scum:
Clem
Shelter
genny

Sus leans:
PSV
Chic
Mayo

Marmot/Dy

Town leans:
Nate
SAR

AM/Santy

Presumed blocc:
JJJ/Boq/Samac


Molecular/Atomic wolf bag:
Dubz

Jeez you could at least make me a more exciting color. I mean that one's accurate I guess but still...

 

[WildZoo]

Also I forgot to put Dubz on my reads list but I was going to just put her in a category saying "I hate sand"

:sadangry: