Michigan State University (MSUCOM) Discussion Thread 2013 - 2014

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thanks for the super quick reply!

 

[MIDOHopeful]

I want my application in first week of June though

What does that mean???

 

[Ubiquinator]

I want my application in first week of June though

Pre-Dental? huh

 

[Redpancreas]

Missed the deadline, but got an extension to September 1st. I would suggest everyone who is late ask rather not sit back and not apply. My application was literally 2.5 weeks late without an extension. I didn't even have a good reason, I just admitted my fault and they gave an extension.

 

[MIDOHopeful]

Missed the deadline, but got an extension to September 1st. I would suggest everyone who is late ask rather not sit back and not apply. My application was literally 2.5 weeks late without an extension. I didn't even have a good reason, I just admitted my fault and they gave an extension.

That's cool. Good luck. Are you IS?

 

[Redpancreas]

That's cool. Good luck. Are you IS?

Yes.

 

[Shinobiz11]

Missed the deadline, but got an extension to September 1st. I would suggest everyone who is late ask rather not sit back and not apply. My application was literally 2.5 weeks late without an extension. I didn't even have a good reason, I just admitted my fault and they gave an extension.

That's great man, good luck

 

[BlondeDoctor3]

Rumor has it the first day they send out acceptance letters (via email) is September 4.

The next big grouping is in October and I believe they only send out the acceptances on Wednesdays.

So if anyone hears in the next few weeks LET US KNOW!! 🙂

 

[MIDOHopeful]

Is it fair to assume that if the first batch of acceptances is sent out on 9/4, then those who have submitted their secondary application and have been marked complete since July will find out if they have been accepted/rejected/waitlisted on 9/4? (This is of course if you consider that most people here are saying that applications will be reviewed in the order they were complete.)

 

[BlondeDoctor3]

Is it fair to assume that if the first batch of acceptances is sent out on 9/4, then those who have submitted their secondary application and have been marked complete since July will find out if they have been accepted/rejected/waitlisted on 9/4? (This is of course if you consider that most people here are saying that applications will be reviewed in the order they were complete.)

They do not reject you right away. If you don't get in or waitlisted they will send you an email at the end of March saying you are not in. 😡

They only accept a handful of people right off the bat.

 

[Ubiquinator]

They do not reject you right away. If you don't get in or waitlisted they will send you an email at the end of March saying you are not in. 😡

They only accept a handful of people right off the bat.

According to the last few years threads, MSUCOM send out a batch of acceptances every wednesday. sdn posts about 10 acceptances per wednesday so I would imagine the number is much higher, at least 40. 40+ acceptances per wednesday is more than a handful, at least in my eyes.

If you click back a few pages, Jay contacted an admissions officer. They stated they will be calling to send out acceptances rather than emails. Also, the date is supposedly the 5th according to the adcom.

 

[Chillywilly]

I submitted my secondary 7/2 and my LORs 7/10, but my application status check says that my LORs aren't received aka "incomplete." Is anyone else having this problem?

Also, does anyone know the class size for 1st year? and if they give preference to IS? I'm OOS.

 

[giantham]

I submitted my secondary 7/2 and my LORs 7/10, but my application status check says that my LORs aren't received aka "incomplete." Is anyone else having this problem?

Also, does anyone know the class size for 1st year? and if they give preference to IS? I'm OOS.

Anyone know if the stats for admitted students are the same for in-state or out-of-state?

 

[Ubiquinator]

I submitted my secondary 7/2 and my LORs 7/10, but my application status check says that my LORs aren't received aka "incomplete." Is anyone else having this problem?

Also, does anyone know the class size for 1st year? and if they give preference to IS? I'm OOS.

As far as LOR they take time become "complete" bc MSUCOM downloads them in batches. Give it 2 weeks.

Class size is 315.

Its a state school and 86% are Michigan residents. Although its a state school, its has been stated before as well as previous threads that the reason 86% are MI residents is a self-selection process. In other words, the adcoms arent giving preference to MI residents, the students who are applying are mostly MI residents. I have been told that the adcoms at MSUCOM select the most qualified applicants regardless of state of residency.

Hope that clears things up for ya.

 

[Ubiquinator]

Anyone know if the stats for admitted students are the same for in-state or out-of-state?

Refer to my post above giantham

 

[Albein]

As far as LOR they take time become "complete" bc MSUCOM downloads them in batches. Give it 2 weeks.

Class size is 315.

Its a state school and 86% are Michigan residents. Although its a state school, its has been stated before as well as previous threads that the reason 86% are MI residents is a self-selection process. In other words, the adcoms arent giving preference to MI residents, the students who are applying are mostly MI residents. I have been told that the adcoms at MSUCOM select the most qualified applicants regardless of state of residency.

Hope that clears things up for ya.

That sucks :/
I'm an OOS with GPA holding me back. I guess we'll see. I was really hoping to go here.

 

[Jayb82388]

According to the last few years threads, MSUCOM send out a batch of acceptances every wednesday. sdn posts about 10 acceptances per wednesday so I would imagine the number is much higher, at least 40. 40+ acceptances per wednesday is more than a handful, at least in my eyes.

If you click back a few pages, Jay contacted an admissions officer. They stated they will be calling to send out acceptances rather than emails. Also, the date is supposedly the 5th according to the adcom.

Yeah thats what i was told, however the disclaimer is that they have never done the calling thing before. so maybe they will decide not to do it as time gets closer.

My own interpretation: if they call everyone, seems like they wont be able to get out 30-40 phone calls every wed/thursday ....so i dont know how it will play out. For sure it will be that wed the 4th or thursday the 5th. She wasnt really 100% on their system this year yet (this was late july) so maybe they have it figured out by now.

As Ubiq said, past threads indicate large batches the first few weeks, i figure that trend will continue, just will be difficult to predict if msucom does in fact go through with calling every person.

Guess we will see!!

 

[michaelr1990]

I was reading through this thread and some people are saying different things about whether or not there is a rank order after your application is completed.

I just got an email from MSUCOM and they said that there is a ranking order.

 

[Member102918]

I was reading through this thread and some people are saying different things about whether or not there is a rank order after your application is completed.

I just got an email from MSUCOM and they said that there is a ranking order.

If you don't mind, could you copy and paste that email (or, if you don't feel comfortable doing that, PM it to me)? I've been trying to wrap my head around this "rank order" procedure, and it would be really helpful to see precisely how they define the rank order process in their own terms. Thanks!

 

[Ubiquinator]

If you don't mind, could you copy and paste that email (or, if you don't feel comfortable doing that, PM it to me)? I've been trying to wrap my head around this "rank order" procedure, and it would be really helpful to see precisely how they define the rank order process in their own terms. Thanks!

+1

Could you post that email or PM it to me as well.

 

[giantham]

I was reading through this thread and some people are saying different things about whether or not there is a rank order after your application is completed.

I just got an email from MSUCOM and they said that there is a ranking order.

Any chance they meant they're ranking based on order received? I'm curious about this as well

 

[Ubiquinator]

Any chance they meant they're ranking based on order received? I'm curious about this as well

Thats what I believe michaelr is talking about. MSUCOM has clearly stated there will be no ranking system this cycle (i.e. mcat, gpa, volunteer hours) like that last few years.

If you cant rank based upon merit, they either have to rank based upon date of completion or IS/OOS. Granted that MSUCOM does not necessarily give preference to IS, I believe they will "ranking" based upon date of completion.

Just my thoughts 😛

 

[Albein]

As far as LOR they take time become "complete" bc MSUCOM downloads them in batches. Give it 2 weeks.

Class size is 315.

Its a state school and 86% are Michigan residents. Although its a state school, its has been stated before as well as previous threads that the reason 86% are MI residents is a self-selection process. In other words, the adcoms arent giving preference to MI residents, the students who are applying are mostly MI residents. I have been told that the adcoms at MSUCOM select the most qualified applicants regardless of state of residency.

Hope that clears things up for ya.

Didn't realize it posted first time. Sorry!

 

[michaelr1990]

Thats what I believe michaelr is talking about. MSUCOM has clearly stated there will be no ranking system this cycle (i.e. mcat, gpa, volunteer hours) like that last few years.

If you cant rank based upon merit, they either have to rank based upon date of completion or IS/OOS. Granted that MSUCOM does not necessarily give preference to IS, I believe they will "ranking" based upon date of completion.

Just my thoughts 😛

Hey guys,

The e-mail from MSU simply said "There is a ranking order."

I'm sooooo confused now. O well just have to wait and see.

 

[Ubiquinator]

Hey guys,

The e-mail from MSU simply said "There is a ranking order."

I'm sooooo confused now. O well just have to wait and see.

I give up trying to figure it out then...

Acceptances start coming out in 15-16 days, thats all that matter to me haha

 

[WingsFan]

I give up trying to figure it out then...

Acceptances start coming out in 15-16 days, thats all that matter to me haha

This right here. There's been a lot of contradicting info posted on this thread, and I doubt MSU actually has everything ironed out and set in stone yet. What will be will be and we'll hopefully find out soon.

 

[Ubiquinator]

This right here. There's been a lot of contradicting info posted on this thread, and I doubt MSU actually has everything ironed out and set in stone yet. What will be will be and we'll hopefully find out soon.

Time will tell ay! Coming up on 2 weeks tomorrow!

 

[Shinobiz11]

Anyone know how much these guys factor in MCAT score. I know the average is 27 or whatever, but what if I have a 24 or 25?

 

[Jayb82388]

Anyone know how much these guys factor in MCAT score. I know the average is 27 or whatever, but what if I have a 24 or 25?

All depends on the other things....obviously the highly highly competitive applicants will have higher mcats, but just because you have a "lower mcat" doesnt mean a ton. GPA is huge, ECs, volunteer, etc.

lastly,
THIS WAITING THING IS TERRIBLE!!! haha

 

[Jayb82388]

Ps...it would be really awesome to know how many people they accept per wed/thurs (whichever one it is this year)....like does it start high then slowly go down? hmmmm so many questions, the wait is wearing on me! haha

 

[WingsFan]

All depends on the other things....obviously the highly highly competitive applicants will have higher mcats, but just because you have a "lower mcat" doesnt mean a ton. GPA is huge, ECs, volunteer, etc.

lastly,
THIS WAITING THING IS TERRIBLE!!! haha

For my own sake, I hope they love the MCAT more than anything else, but everyone's application has different balances of strengths and weaknesses that I'm sure they weigh equally. And I agree, waiting is killing me.

 

[Albein]

For my own sake, I hope they love the MCAT more than anything else, but everyone's application has different balances of strengths and weaknesses that I'm sure they weigh equally. And I agree, waiting is killing me.

Ditto, that and everything but my GPA :/

 

[Ubiquinator]

From past threads the break up has been 30% GPA, 30% MCAT, 40% Volunteer hours/primary app.

If you check out the last few years threads the first day acceptances go out to high gpa >3.8 avg mcat 26-28, and >1,000 volunteer hours. Just from what I've seen browsing 10' 11' & 12' threads.

 

[Albein]

From past threads the break up has been 30% GPA, 30% MCAT, 40% Volunteer hours/primary app.

If you check out the last few years threads the first day acceptances go out to high gpa >3.8 avg mcat 26-28, and >1,000 volunteer hours. Just from what I've seen browsing 10' 11' & 12' threads.

That's understandable. The most deserving applicants should get first acceptances. I'm just hoping a school takes a chance on me and I can prove them right. I really don't want to have to do SMPs. I guess we'll see what happens. Good luck all

 

[Ubiquinator]

That's understandable. The most deserving applicants should get first acceptances. I'm just hoping a school takes a chance on me and I can prove them right. I really don't want to have to do SMPs. I guess we'll see what happens. Good luck all

Avg gpa isnt sky high.. 3.5ish... SMP oh my. I dont know what your gpa is but SMP can be a kiss of death if you dont get >3.8. Risky..

 

[Albein]

Avg gpa isnt sky high.. 3.5ish... SMP oh my. I dont know what your gpa is but SMP can be a kiss of death if you dont get >3.8. Risky..

That might be my only choice, but we'll see. My cGPA I think was a 3.3 and sGPA was a 2.95 or 2.98. 29 mcat and a ton of volunteer hours.

 

[Ubiquinator]

That might be my only choice, but we'll see. My cGPA I think was a 3.3 and sGPA was a 2.95 or 2.98. 29 mcat and a ton of volunteer hours.

I think your cGPA is fine but your science gpa might hurt you.

Hope for the best though! Rooting for you Albein!

 

[Albein]

I think your cGPA is fine but your science gpa might hurt you.

Hope for the best though! Rooting for you Albein!

Yeah isn't that the one that's more important. I guess we'll see. I'm disappointed they don't interview because I feel I'd impress during an interview.

 

[Ubiquinator]

Yeah isn't that the one that's more important. I guess we'll see. I'm disappointed they don't interview because I feel I'd impress during an interview.

Yes, science gpa is weighed heavier than cumulative.

 

[Albein]

Yes, science gpa is weighed heavier than cumulative.

Makes sense. I guess we'll see how it turns out. Rooting for us all!

 

[Scrumtralescent]

How does MSU view extra LORs? I sent two already, but found out after that a strong LOR I have been waiting on would be uploaded to Interfolio tomorrow. Bad timing.

 

[Ubiquinator]

How does MSU view extra LORs? I sent two already, but found out after that a strong LOR I have been waiting on would be uploaded to Interfolio tomorrow. Bad timing.

Very negatively. To be blunt, they view it as the inability to follow directions. They state they ONLY want 2.

 

[lamborghiniMD]

lol stop trolling Ubquinator. I called a few days ago. they are understanding that most students send letter packets via VE. They fish out the 2 letters you stated on your secondary and ONLY read those.

 

[WingsFan]

Very negatively. To be blunt, they view it as the inability to follow directions. They state they ONLY want 2.

I'm assuming that if you sent all your letters through your school's letter service (all your letters for every school go into one virtual evals file), they won't pay attention to the letters that aren't listed on the secondary and it won't affect you negatively?

edit: thanks for the clarification lamborghini!

 

[Chillywilly]

lol no.

 

[Ubiquinator]

lol stop trolling Ubquinator. I called a few days ago. they are understanding that most students send letter packets via VE. They fish out the 2 letters you stated on your secondary and ONLY read those.

I guess the sarcasm wasn't obvious in my reply...

Try this. Sending more than 2 letters = automatic rejection. Did you catch the sarcasm that time? 😛

 

[Mmedran]

yeah isn't that the one that's more important. I guess we'll see. I'm disappointed they don't interview because i feel i'd impress during an interview.

+1

 

[Stoptheclot]

Curious OOS here, are there any current OOS (or knowledgeable IS) med students who could comment on the hefty 80k price tag on MSUCOM?? How in high heaven are you paying this back? From the great reputation of MSUCOM, it seems worth an investment but 320k+ debt is not appealing

 

[StudyShy]

September is just around the corner for y'all! 🙂

 

[bionerd89]

Curious OOS here, are there any current OOS (or knowledgeable IS) med students who could comment on the hefty 80k price tag on MSUCOM?? How in high heaven are you paying this back? From the great reputation of MSUCOM, it seems worth an investment but 320k+ debt is not appealing

I have the same question..I'm OOS and I want to come here but there is no way I can afford the tuition.