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Day 4 Yeet Vote


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That there's something it'd be beneficial for mafia to block. And that may be that's leading to some gaps in clear thinking/reads.
I think the miller claim, which I believe is true, is also a reason to believe town has some good power (and specifically something that would get a false positive due to miller) to fight against scum. I think it means scum is also probably powerful so maybe roleblocker was the less important role?
 
Nah I'm convinced (thanks PSV, you're still a scum lean in my book but I buy your argument)

yeet mkg

Tell us your night target 🙂
 
here's where we're at:

SAR (2): fruitsalad, vampy
zenge (1): SAR
mkg (1): chic
No Vote: Zenge, PSV, KJQ, mad, mkg, genny​
 
I can’t reconcile mkg voting clem over SAR if mkg/clem are partnered. It makes no sense. They were voting me and probably wouldn’t have been scrutinized over their vote if it hadn’t changed so why be the final vote to kill their partner?

Unless mkg is 3p, I don’t see how I can believe mkg as bad at this point.
 
I just find it really weird that mkg is alive. So not only is a good question to ask “why greedy?” but in that same breath I’d say “why not mkg?”
This. I am sad, always the misyeet, never the murdered. But seriously it does make me eye a few people more, that maybe think I’d be easy to pocket and that somehow outweighs the risks of my role.
 
This. I am sad, always the misyeet, never the murdered. But seriously it does make me eye a few people more, that maybe think I’d be easy to pocket and that somehow outweighs the risks of my role.
got my whole hand in the peanut butter jar rn in solidarity for your accusation✊😔
 
Hey everyone, after looking through the game again, I wanted to share some thoughts and updates on where I’m at. I’ve been trying to piece everything together, and there are a few things that stand out to me.

Clem Wagon:

I’ve been revisiting the Clem wagon, and I think there’s an interesting possibility that the pack involved was MKG, SAR, and Clem. There’s a chance that Clem, knowing his playstyle of being inactive and not really pro-village, might’ve asked to be bussed at the end of the day to help save SAR and MKG. I don’t know if that’s something people considered, but it makes sense in the context of how things unfolded. Clem has been pretty low-energy and not giving much in terms of helpful contributions. I could see him realizing that the pack was in a tough spot, especially with the pressure mounting on MKG, and SAR being on the board, suggesting that SAR and MKG bus him to save themselves. It’s hard to say for sure, but that timing is definitely worth noting and something I am considering.

Greedy's Death:
The circumstances surrounding Greedy’s death are definitely something we need to think about. With the lack of any clear information, it’s hard to know exactly what we’re dealing with here. Greedy’s flip could have told us a lot, but now we’re left with nothing but questions.

Players I’m Watching:

KJQ & Vamp:
KJQ’s focus on inconsistencies in Vamp's D1 play feels like a bit of a stretch. It’s good to ask questions, but I’m seeing a lot of focus on minor details and not a lot of substance in KJQ's arguments. It’s almost as though KJQ is trying to build a narrative to fit a specific story. I’ll be watching KJQ closely, but for now, it feels like they’re just trying to force round pegs into square holes. Sure, you can make them fit but that doesn't mean it's correct.

MKG: As mentioned earlier, MKG’s jump onto Clem's wagon at the last minute could be a bus. It’s a little too convenient, especially since it came after her D1 wagon fell apart, and the other options were Clem and SAR.

SAR: I haven’t seen enough from SAR to feel confident either way, but I think it’s possible that SAR is part of the pack with Clem and MKG. If Clem was pushing for a bus at EOD, SAR could easily have been involved in that decision. However, I’m not fully convinced that SAR is the strongest scumread right now, but I’m still watching.

Fruit Salad: I’ve been a little uneasy about Fruit Salad’s passivity in the game. I agree with Chic, they’ve been engaging with what others are saying without offering much in terms of their own analysis or thoughts. It feels like they’re trying to stay in the background and not attract too much attention, which makes me wary. I’ll be looking for more of their interactions going forward.

PSV: PSV’s been pushing the KJQ tunnel a lot, and I think she's been a little overeager in trying to drive the narrative around that. I agree with Chic that PSV has been too focused on a specific line of thinking, and that kind of tunnel vision doesn’t sit well with me. I’ll continue to keep an eye on PSV as the game goes on.

Madrigal: I still haven’t seen enough from Madrigal to make any solid conclusions, but I’m still watching. Their level of engagement has been low from my perspective, and I’m curious to see if that changes.

I'd say Genny and Chic are probably my top town reads at the moment.
This is slander and you know it, I do not bus. The CYO with chaos was a special circumstances (for those not involved he fake claimed black goo, then fake claimed Judas. It did not go well) and I haven’t done it since. BRUH
 
Two pages behind again but wanted to address these before I forget

Do you think the Clem wagon was also pure? (I forgot if you answered that but I’m thinking you do think it’s pure, correct me if I’m wrong)
At this time, I'm leaning yes
So scum would have to be contained in:
Zenge, chic, vampy, fruitsalad

Can you tell me who you’re looking at from this list? Or put them in order from most likely scum to least from your POV? 3 of these 4 were in my PoE day 1 and vampy went to the bottom of my list overnight so I understand where you’re coming from.
Most to least scum:
Zenge
Fruit
Chic
Vampy

SAR, given that you're confused no one has tried to push you, what are your reads atm? (Alternate version of this question: who were you expecting to push you)

I wouldn't say I'm confused, my name has come up a lot recently. KJQ seemed very scum!SAR oriented early in the cycle but has cooled off some. I don't know if fruit has really laid out a case on me. I don't know why mads jumped on me last night when (as far as I see on thread), it was based on last game and not this one.

As for reads, see above
 
Day 1 Final Elimination Tally

Clem (4) -
genny, SAR, mkg, PSV
SAR (3) - mads, KJQ, GreedyB
mads (1) - fruitsalad
KJQ (1) - vamp
mkg (1) - chic

Not voting: Zenge, Clem
okay so lets say clem wago was pure, no bussing, all town votes. that leads mads, KJQ, fruit, me and chic are possible scum.

as much as this pains me to accuse, @madrigal01 pookie, why did you vote SAR? do you feel still strongly against them?
 
I think I might have more info to share but I’m not sure if my info is accurate because some of it is speculation based off of my own interpretation. I THINK I have reason to believe someone targeted me with an ability last night. At the moment, that’s all I’m going to say until I figure out what I am allowed to say past that, if anything. Please don’t claim if you did target me, that is not the reason for this post whatsoever.
 
okay so lets say clem wago was pure, no bussing, all town votes. that leads mads, KJQ, fruit, me and chic are possible scum.

as much as this pains me to accuse, @madrigal01 pookie, why did you vote SAR? do you feel still strongly against them?
You forgot zenge. I don’t think we can count him as being on the Clem wagon.
 
I think I might have more info to share but I’m not sure if my info is accurate because some of it is speculation based off of my own interpretation. I THINK I have reason to believe someone targeted me with an ability last night. At the moment, that’s all I’m going to say until I figure out what I am allowed to say past that, if anything. Please don’t claim if you did target me, that is not the reason for this post whatsoever.
Wait, are you implying actions are not silent?
That would mean whoever mkg targeted should be able to verify it, yeah?
 
Wait, are you implying actions are not silent?
That would mean whoever mkg targeted should be able to verify it, yeah?
But we don’t want the person to verify in case mkg can’t protect the same person twice I thought? Unless you think it’s more useful to town to out the info over protecting 1 person. I just don’t want us to give away too much info to scum here.

Again, I am not sure if I have this right or not. I don’t have any solid confirmation that actions, in general, are not silent. I just have reason to believe I was targeted by something last night. I don’t want to get into it until I have more understanding of what I’m allowed to talk about so just put a pin in this for a little while and I will come back to it as soon as I can.
 
But we don’t want the person to verify in case mkg can’t protect the same person twice I thought? Unless you think it’s more useful to town to out the info over protecting 1 person. I just don’t want us to give away too much info to scum here.
Only mkg would have this info so it's ultimately a judgement call on her part, but if there's potential reason to suspect actions aren't silent and someone could verify the flavor sounds plausible for bodyguarding...
 
I will say that if I was targeted by someone, I don’t know who it was. So I don’t know how loud/announcing roles work on this forum but I can say I don’t have definitive “this person visited you” knowledge. So from my knowledge, I don’t believe there is a blanket “all roles are loud” thing going on here. So going off on my own info, I don’t have reason to believe mkg is a loud bodyguard and that their target could confirm it. That’s why I don’t want anyone claiming things that might not be confirmable this way.
 
Usually you can't directly quote PMs/mod communication but discussing night results is okay. Can check the rules again for clarity to be safe though
 
It would be really funny (but not at all helpful) if I’m over analyzing way too hard right now.
 
I will say that if I was targeted by someone, I don’t know who it was. So I don’t know how loud/announcing roles work on this forum but I can say I don’t have definitive “this person visited you” knowledge. So from my knowledge, I don’t believe there is a blanket “all roles are loud” thing going on here. So going off on my own info, I don’t have reason to believe mkg is a loud bodyguard and that their target could confirm it. That’s why I don’t want anyone claiming things that might not be confirmable this way.
Yeah it varies depending on the mod, but if actions are "loud" then it might be something like "you felt someone's eyes on you in the night" or "you tried to leave your house but the door jammed!" So little hints at what might've affected you but not definitive and not tied to a person.
 
I’m narrowing down the logical possibilities. It’s logical that a doctor and a bodyguard do not exist together.
I think it could be balanced for both to exist.
 
Also I just realized, if we can’t talk about our PM with the mod in game, should all mech questions be asked in thread? Because I know I referenced getting an answer about how a bodyguard functions with a doctor but was I not supposed to say that because it wasn’t public?
 
6. Direct quoting or copy/pasting of ANY PMs is not allowed - this includes the flavor from your role PM and communications with the mods. Screenshots are not allowed. Fake copy/pasting, quoting, and screenshots are not allowed either. Communications with the mods should not be discussed - we do not exist in-game.
Okay just verifying the rule specifies direct quoting or copy/pasting is not allowed. Paraphrasing should be fine, as with mkg referring to herself as young hot Jeremy Renner.
 
This is slander and you know it, I do not bus. The CYO with chaos was a special circumstances (for those not involved he fake claimed black goo, then fake claimed Judas. It did not go well) and I haven’t done it since. BRUH
So, you're claiming that in a situation like the one I'm picturing, where you were on the board, and fake claiming bodyguard to survive, and SAR was also on the board, and Clem was there like "BUS ME BUS ME BUS ME" you wouldn't bus Clem with SAR to save help save SAR?

Because I feel like you would. I'm not saying "Oh MKG is a huge busser! She busses all the time!" I'm just saying in the scenario I'm picturing here, I honestly think you would.
 
Yeah it varies depending on the mod, but if actions are "loud" then it might be something like "you felt someone's eyes on you in the night" or "you tried to leave your house but the door jammed!" So little hints at what might've affected you but not definitive and not tied to a person.
Okay that’s honesty so helpful. Now I definitely think someone is loud and targeted me. It could be any alignment/role such as a town tracker/watcher or a scum role cop or whatever, but I do believe I was visited in some way last night.
 
So, you're claiming that in a situation like the one I'm picturing, where you were on the board, and fake claiming bodyguard to survive, and SAR was also on the board, and Clem was there like "BUS ME BUS ME BUS ME" you wouldn't bus Clem with SAR to save help save SAR?

Because I feel like you would. I'm not saying "Oh MKG is a huge busser! She busses all the time!" I'm just saying in the scenario I'm picturing here, I honestly think you would.
If Clem and I were wolves I would have jumped back on KJQ after vampy went there and told a pack mate to jump on with me. Unless you think Clem/me/KJQ is a thing??
 
Okay so actually after going over everything again…I might have reason to believe more than one person targeted me last night lol this is getting really fun
Sarcastic Dan Levy GIF by CBC
 
So I will just say now that I’ve confirmed I can rreference it - I did get a communication at the end of the night. I have no way of knowing if everyone gets one or not. But it is heavily implied in this communication that at least one if not more people visited me last night from my interpretation.
 
I have no reason to think mkg would chose to protect me so I don’t think that is a possibility.
 
Well anyway, I don’t want to go too far down this road so we can keep any town PR that visited me safe but I think whatever info people have gathered on me will clear me of the night kill. Because either I was tracked and it would prove I didn’t kill greedy or I was copped and I would be proven to be town. Either way, I do believe someone knows I’m town here besides scum who already knew. But if scum has a role cop, they know my role so I might need to reevaluate who was pushing me today to see if it makes sense.
 
Well anyway, I don’t want to go too far down this road so we can keep any town PR that visited me safe but I think whatever info people have gathered on me will clear me of the night kill. Because either I was tracked and it would prove I didn’t kill greedy or I was copped and I would be proven to be town. Either way, I do believe someone knows I’m town here besides scum who already knew. But if scum has a role cop, they know my role so I might need to reevaluate who was pushing me today to see if it makes sense.
Tracking/watching doesn’t necessarily clear you since another wolf could have made the NK. But cop certainly would. Going to chew on this a bit.
 
What do you think is the possibility?
Scum kill that was doctored?!
Huh? No I’m just saying I don’t think mkg used BG on me. I don’t think I was ever the nightkill target. I think I was targeted with other abilities because why would I be killed when it was looking like today would be me vs vampy. Why would scum take that away?
 
This is such an interesting choice
I mean in hindsight yeah, but I wasn’t around to see the night cycle. I village read her, along with like everyone else considering no one even had her as scum in all the GTHs so I thought she was a good person to protect
 
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