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Also the whole "should we follow what AM's dying read was" is very interesting. If we were "avenging her death" we would Lynch SOV and trust Mel but... I just don't like that option
Didn't see you defend her much besides saying you didn't think she was a wolf. And you could wait until you killed mutts, the village vig.Would I have defended her or said so many times on thread I thought she was village if I knew she was unlynchable? Nahh I'd wait until that tidbit came out and then lynch her a second day to waste time.
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Also the whole "should we follow what AM's dying read was" is very interesting. If we were "avenging her death" we would Lynch SOV and trust Mel but... I just don't like that option
Didn't see you defend her much besides saying you didn't think she was a wolf. And you could wait until you killed mutts, the village vig.
This was discussed at length the last several pagesDo you think wolves knew mutts was village vig? Like there's some kind of seering ability among them?
Or. We could ignore everything an outted wolf says.We're looking at a bunch of WIFOM's and I figured this one was the easiest to start with.
Wow the TOC hasn't been updated??? 😱~ Reserved for Table of Contents ~
D1 - Tally | Cubs lynched
N1 - bryndy killed
D2 - Tally | Snowy lynched
N2 interlude - genny shot
N2 - mpm killed
D3 - Tally | capri lynched
N3 - barky killed
D4 interlude - mutts shot
D4 -
This was discussed at length the last several pages
She said SOVWasn't she thinking skimble today or did I read that wrong?
I think they took/borrowed her ability and that's how they knew...I have no indication they have an ability seer atm but I guess it's possibleDo you think wolves knew mutts was village vig? Like there's some kind of seering ability among them?
InteresanteHmmmm no I don't think I like this anymore
Unlynch dubz
Lynch mj
Also, Skim's in a lot of trouble.
When you catch up, I would like to hear your opinion on what went down with coffee last nightI really wanted to ask AM what she meant by this.
I haven’t read page 27 or 28 yet, so I’m missing a piece of the action, but from what I do know, I could support a coff? or Mel lynch today.
Lynch mel
Based on her response to me, I'm pretty sure she meant you would be one of her lynch targets soon (probably after SOV)I really wanted to ask AM what she meant by this.
I haven’t read page 27 or 28 yet, so I’m missing a piece of the action, but from what I do know, I could support a coff? or Mel lynch today.
Lynch mel
Wanted to see some reaction... I saw it.Unlynch wz. Lynch coffee
????Wanted to see some reaction... I saw it.
In a plain vanilla game I don’t guess there would be an alpha. Has to be one time.
Let’s kill the known wolf.
What was the plan you were referring to here? With the rapid vote switching on d3No. I have a plan
I'd still really like to lynch Coffee or SOV today. Preferably both soon.
Hmmmm no I don't think I like this anymore
Unlynch dubz
Lynch mj
Hey @Melchizedek maybe this is the WIFOM you should start withFor now I'd still like to lynch Mel
while I think things through more
See notes about this in an upcoming postThis is why I'm on Coffee today. Then if I lynch SOV after and I'm wrong at least I don't activate the grump 😛
Where are your feels at now? Besides SOV.I’m gonna go reevaluate every single person that’s alive in this game...so if you need me that’s where I’ll be. Ugh.
I don't like thisThat’s weird, I had the same feeling when I saw it at first, but was waiting for the write up.
Need to hear more from cray at some point. Which probably won't be until lynch close. Sigh.I have no idea what's going on, I didn't know the game was currently in progress when I took grebes' spot, I just thought it was about to start
anyone want to TLDR the thread for me?
Dunno how I feel about this one yetHonestly this keeps bothering me. She posted this ~10 mins after her post about not having ISOed yet, then is killed almost right after.
This wouldn't be as concerning if there was ANY context in this post. But to throw just a Lynch and then be shot feels exceptionally important to me.
Especially if we are able to utilize the context of the write up.
Could be nothing. Or everything.
Waiting for this still I thinkYeah the whole timing of it is just weird to me on top of not wanting to Not look into something like a sudden death, but I don't want to be tin foiling off the rails either.
Right now I'm trying to look into Coffee and Mel, as well as see if I can put anything together through voting tallies around those two.
I'm going to look into more tomorrow morning since I have the morning off and post updated reads/feels on others at that time.
Can't decide if honest village question or fellow wolfy setup lolOver the past 3 days have you only seered Ziggs? Are there villagers you'd like to confirm?
Currently looking back at Coffee, Mel, and SOV now. Will update in a bit.What was the plan you were referring to here? With the rapid vote switching on d3
What happened to your SOV feels?
Hey @Melchizedek maybe this is the WIFOM you should start with
See notes about this in an upcoming post
Where are your feels at now? Besides SOV.
I don't like this
Need to hear more from cray at some point. Which probably won't be until lynch close. Sigh.
Dunno how I feel about this one yet
Waiting for this still I think
Can't decide if honest village question or fellow wolfy setup lol
What happened to your SOV feels?
I don't like thisDo you know Ziggy’s affiliation to know who is lying
I think I’m caught up now. I would have switched to coffee after that late reveal as she wasn’t even voting for the person she supposedly seered and confirmed wolf. Mel believing that makes me even more comfortable with me vote for him.When you catch up, I would like to hear your opinion on what went down with coffee last night
Hey I read youSo since I have two exams to study for I'm going to do something I don't usually do this early in the game and just...put all my thoughts on thread. Because I need to disappear for a while and don't really have time for mind games and reaction tests and all that, and won't until Monday evening at the earliest.
The names with thoughts next to them are running thoughts since the beginning of the game. Player list afterwards is roughly in order from woof to villa (the spaces didn't exist when I typed it up but they fascinate me so I left them). And notes at the end are things I want to follow up on but probably don't have time for lol
2. @WildZoo - the biggest v...wait
4. @Dinashadow - why do I still have no clue here... +v for contingency on covfefe, +v for lynch tracker request, will see what she got from it actually. +v for actually following up on analyzing it.
7. @Skimble - a little echo-y, too many likes. w. Haven't seen anything to change my mind here really. lynching grebes when she seemed to have strnger feels for other players...weird.
8. @grebes4lyfe - voting could be w but i need to read posts < and I never did that. Might be subbing out? > Now cray cray. Fantastic. I'll probably lynch her at endgame.
11. @SARdoghandler - spreadsheet effort feels v, voting record though...hmmm
12. @StartingoverVet - my actual read is villa. SOV will do anything as a wolf but hell joining in the tie shenanigans is pretty loco.
13. @ziggyandjazzy - totes frustrated villa
14. @CoffeeQuestionMark - i always am suspicious of covfefe. Reaction felt villa the first time but holy disappearance when she was up for Lynch. W. <--hey i was right
15. @Melchizedek - have a weird feel. lynch if no woof produced in 24 hrs. AM is making me feel bad so I'll leave him alone for the moment. <--- still can't prove that he hasn't produced a woof because i won't let him lynch SOV lol but my soul feels he's a wolf, and my soul must be satisfied.
16. @dolphin106258 - posts feel v. Very v.
19. @Mad Jack - obvs vanilla if he says so
20. @SportPonies - i gave her a pass last game because extreme inactivity seemed not woofy sporty. not so this time. automatic lower wolfy. But also I feel guilty lynching her today? +v for thoughts i liked. what were they? I don't remember. +w because she hasn't tunneled me yet.
21. @MSUcvmHOPE - jailed apparently, don't have much else. still don't have much else. At all.
23. @killerleaf - got nuthin much, reads like her normal self
Covfefe
Skim
Cheezit
Grebes --> Cray
Sporty
MSU
Killer
SOV
SAR
Dina
MJ
zig
Dolph
Dubz
Reminder to myself to look at those capri voters again. Reminder to myself that AM wanted SOV and possibly Skimble lynched. Reminder to myself that she might murder me for lynching mel.
And a reminder to ISO MSU I guess. I need to study tho.
Other notes:
- someone probably already said this, but based on mutt's posts she definitely did not kill genny
- idk what to think of the chat slip from dina when it involved me
- no one ever bothers to try to read me. sigh.
- didn't mutts say something about not being useful until lynch closes? at some point? need to go back and look at mutts and barks posts. did barks get her ability stolen too?
- why is SAR so scared of activating my grump? does she knows she's wrong about SOV?
- kinda take back my comment about overpowered wolf pack because i forgot at most they'll be at a 1:5 ratio
- i don't like all the boring coffee votes. why don't people ever try to make things more interesting. probably at least one wolf on covfefe yesterday, but i don't think both of 'em
- missed before that mutts was a 1x assassin. if woofs stole her shot to use on genny, then she shouldn't have had another to steal. unless, rather than a thief, they had a mimic. hmmm. other option is they have their own assassin. it sounded like mutts was saying she was restricted to nighttime use, in which case a thief or mimic should have been restricted the same way. unless she just meant she was jailed that day? need a timeline
- good, zig pointed out the bit about mutts being jailed and barks still being very suspicious of her. I don't think anyone else was jailed the same day, so maybe thievery after all. need to check when that happened.
- conversion may not need a no kill night here...we just don't know
So since I have two exams to study for I'm going to do something I don't usually do this early in the game and just...put all my thoughts on thread. Because I need to disappear for a while and don't really have time for mind games and reaction tests and all that, and won't until Monday evening at the earliest.
The names with thoughts next to them are running thoughts since the beginning of the game. Player list afterwards is roughly in order from woof to villa (the spaces didn't exist when I typed it up but they fascinate me so I left them). And notes at the end are things I want to follow up on but probably don't have time for lol
2. @WildZoo - the biggest v...wait
4. @Dinashadow - why do I still have no clue here... +v for contingency on covfefe, +v for lynch tracker request, will see what she got from it actually. +v for actually following up on analyzing it.
7. @Skimble - a little echo-y, too many likes. w. Haven't seen anything to change my mind here really. lynching grebes when she seemed to have strnger feels for other players...weird.
8. @grebes4lyfe - voting could be w but i need to read posts < and I never did that. Might be subbing out? > Now cray cray. Fantastic. I'll probably lynch her at endgame.
11. @SARdoghandler - spreadsheet effort feels v, voting record though...hmmm
12. @StartingoverVet - my actual read is villa. SOV will do anything as a wolf but hell joining in the tie shenanigans is pretty loco.
13. @ziggyandjazzy - totes frustrated villa
14. @CoffeeQuestionMark - i always am suspicious of covfefe. Reaction felt villa the first time but holy disappearance when she was up for Lynch. W. <--hey i was right
15. @Melchizedek - have a weird feel. lynch if no woof produced in 24 hrs. AM is making me feel bad so I'll leave him alone for the moment. <--- still can't prove that he hasn't produced a woof because i won't let him lynch SOV lol but my soul feels he's a wolf, and my soul must be satisfied.
16. @dolphin106258 - posts feel v. Very v.
19. @Mad Jack - obvs vanilla if he says so
20. @SportPonies - i gave her a pass last game because extreme inactivity seemed not woofy sporty. not so this time. automatic lower wolfy. But also I feel guilty lynching her today? +v for thoughts i liked. what were they? I don't remember. +w because she hasn't tunneled me yet.
21. @MSUcvmHOPE - jailed apparently, don't have much else. still don't have much else. At all.
23. @killerleaf - got nuthin much, reads like her normal self
Covfefe
Skim
Cheezit
Grebes --> Cray
Sporty
MSU
Killer
SOV
SAR
Dina
MJ
zig
Dolph
Dubz
Reminder to myself to look at those capri voters again. Reminder to myself that AM wanted SOV and possibly Skimble lynched. Reminder to myself that she might murder me for lynching mel.
And a reminder to ISO MSU I guess. I need to study tho.
Other notes:
- someone probably already said this, but based on mutt's posts she definitely did not kill genny
- idk what to think of the chat slip from dina when it involved me
- no one ever bothers to try to read me. sigh.
- didn't mutts say something about not being useful until lynch closes? at some point? need to go back and look at mutts and barks posts. did barks get her ability stolen too?
- why is SAR so scared of activating my grump? does she knows she's wrong about SOV?
- kinda take back my comment about overpowered wolf pack because i forgot at most they'll be at a 1:5 ratio
- i don't like all the boring coffee votes. why don't people ever try to make things more interesting. probably at least one wolf on covfefe yesterday, but i don't think both of 'em
- missed before that mutts was a 1x assassin. if woofs stole her shot to use on genny, then she shouldn't have had another to steal. unless, rather than a thief, they had a mimic. hmmm. other option is they have their own assassin. it sounded like mutts was saying she was restricted to nighttime use, in which case a thief or mimic should have been restricted the same way. unless she just meant she was jailed that day? need a timeline
- good, zig pointed out the bit about mutts being jailed and barks still being very suspicious of her. I don't think anyone else was jailed the same day, so maybe thievery after all. need to check when that happened.
- conversion may not need a no kill night here...we just don't know
She said SOV
I like to exaggerate. Came across several posts that had reads on most people and then were like "Well I can't ever read wz soHey I read you
Nope 😛I've voted for you twice now. Does that count as reading you? 😉
TrueShe did, but also mentioned skimble would be in trouble but then she never got to really expand on that today because you know NK
It felt like a poorly executed attempt to clear him based on this exact line of thought.I just don't see Mel being a wolf in how it went down last night. Imo as a wolf it would be way smarter to wait and see how the reveal went and match other villager reactions. You know that if Ziggy flipped village we'd go for Coffee next and Mel would also look susp for leading the move away from Coffee then. Just doesn't seem like a good woof move to me. They knew Coffee was likely to go down, so I'd be suspicious of them trying to gain village cred of helping with that
It felt like a poorly executed attempt to clear him based on this exact line of thought.
Seriously read his posts after that reveal. They feel so insincere. And him bringing up the WIFOM that can't be solved reminds me of when he was converted in Colorado and wouldn't let go of Kara's outted posts.
I’ve posted my reads on you now. 😀I like to exaggerate. Came across several posts that had reads on most people and then were like "Well I can't ever read wz so"
I said I was gonna switch to coffee and did. The reaction I am talking about is not wz...but other players. I wanted to see what others would do today before a bandwagon to relynch coffee formed. That bandwagon is not forming, which I think it should so 8 moved back????
Her reaction being a change from skim to Mel? Not sure I'm following your logic there
Night 2 - Interlude
The skiers were all ready to hit the slopes in the morning. One skier in particular was excited to head up to Jay Peak, a resort in far northern Vermont, known for having low crowds and the heaviest annual snowfall of any eastern resort.
She had just put her skis into the cargo bin on her car...when all of a sudden, a shot rang out from deep in a nearby evergreen glade. The group of friends looked on in horror as one of their own bled out into the snow.
Dead is @genny , Jay Peak - Vanillager.
I was jailed last night through this lynch close- blocked and protected but somehow felt safe. Sound familiar?
I dont like sharing night results but yall are starting a train off of poor reads
Can you please ask questions before framing things incorectly ? Me calling capri sketchy is part of why I'm voting there - i never said shes sketchy but thats not why im voting there - that logic doesnt even make sense your making things up now.
So genny was killed n2, and this is also when mutts was jailed.Day 4 - Interlude
As the ski trip continued, the skiers began to get a touch of cabin fever. In order to liven things up a little bit, one skier suggested visiting the beautiful Lakes Region of New Hampshire, to visit Gunstock Mountain, a ski area with a flair for adventure. In keeping with the gun theme, most of the trails are named for guns (i.e. Pistol, Musket) or gun parts (i.e. Trigger).
The skiers arrived at the summit of the Hot Shot trail... but before they could swish down the slopes, another shot rang out from deep in a nearby evergreen glade, instantly killing the skier who had suggested they visit this mountain. A smoking gun could be seen tossed aside in the snow near the trailhead.
Are people actually packing heat at Gunstock? ...That doesn't seem very safe.
Dead is @muttmanager, GUNSTOCK - 1x Village Assassin
What was the plan you were referring to here? With the rapid vote switching on d3
I've never defended another player unless I knew they were lock clear village (besides maybe AM), and I never will. You're doing some impressive mental gymnastics to fit me into your theory.Didn't see you defend her much besides saying you didn't think she was a wolf. And you could wait until you killed mutts, the village vig.
Cool, Where would you be lynching if not for coffee? Its far enough into the game that we need something from you to analyze you not just votes. Do you have leans/reads for us?Lynch coffee
If it does doesn't die once...
I still wanna lynch skim but for the moment I'll
unlynch skim lynch cheezit
can't get over how fake his reaction to coffee felt, or how groce it is that he's encouraging us to do anything based on her fake seer results. It's the worst kind of WIFOM and impossibke to analyze.
Isn't it a little, idk...too on the nose for my wolfing?Hmm maybe since I had a good idea now I can have a bad idea
what if the wolves took mutts ability somehow, used it to kill her because they have a wolf that can only die that way (like unlynchable)? Hmmm... much speculation
Hey @Melchizedek maybe this is the WIFOM you should start with
Responding to Skim priorSPECIFICALLY I don't know between you and Mel and SAR. Mel started it and I saw it as tunnelling but I didn't like the reaction to SOV's response.
On the other hand, you followed Mel without giving a reason. And that seems normal enough, but it follows an attempt on snowy that didnt pan out... Which is fine and I thought snowy was a wolf too, except that the reasoning you gave for lynching her in the first place was weak enough to have you jumping off later. It just seems like you're directionless right now.
And SAR ALSO got on without reason, I don't recall her mentioning SOV before, and has been quiet which is normal but makes her harder to evaluate. She has mentioned me before but there is A joke about how if we can't pm each other how can we trust each other, so I can't tell if she's running with that and legitimately thinks I'm sketchy or running with that to put up a defense if it gets brought up.
I havent mentioned it before because I've been alone with my thoughts at work and am just able to now get it written out.
This was my thought process too.
These are two related posts. My question is if you find then both sketchy, but not necessarily both wolves, does that change your interpretation of the vote switch? I'm still under the belief that there was a wolf on Barks and with snowy flipped village I am wondering about my initial decision of ziggy as village. She seemed to be intentionally ignoring information last night and has been all over the place which was not like how she played in noob game, but I also am hesitant that I'm just being sensitive.
But, then again I don't like the SOV lynch right now and am also side eyeing people voting there.
The top was Coffee's response to AM. I'm still thinking about how I feel about her opinions on AM, Mel, SAR, and SOV from this. Seems like she is trying to take away AM's village credit for sure, possibly slighting Mel as well.My thoughts on Skimble is that I dont feel worried. I tunneled her in Pokemon and she is making more sense to me this game so don't want to vote there.
@WildZoo this was what Mutts had said about not being able to do anything till Lynch close. At the time I didn't want to draw attention to it. But never got to ask about it.You don’t have to vote Capri, just someone you think is wolfy.
I know lynching me would be bad for village - not willing to share more atm since I can’t do anything until lynch close
*im also no good dead
Unlynch killer
Lynch mutts
Just for fun
If you are village, which reading back the past day has eased my suspicions a little, I apologize for freaking out and ruining this opp for you.No. I have a plan
Still haven't looked into Mel's posts with more scrutiny yet.MSU sounds like a wolf to me. Staying there.
But literally everything Mel,says I think is wrong or misleading. That will be my next target, can’t keep on ignoring the off-ness of the play.
Coffee could've claimed seer to try to get the real seer to appear. You're getting no counter claim from me but NICE TRY.I've never defended another player unless I knew they were lock clear village (besides maybe AM), and I never will. You're doing some impressive mental gymnastics to fit me into your theory.
Cool, Where would you be lynching if not for coffee? Its far enough into the game that we need something from you to analyze you not just votes. Do you have leans/reads for us?
Isn't it a little, idk...too on the nose for my wolfing?
She claimed seer - Pretty good reason to waffle off in any scenario unless there's a counter claim
She "confirmed" my read on ZJ - Fine, I'll admit it, I got pocketed on this one. I was just so ready to lynch someone that I'd been (admittedly) tunneling on.
I was a counterwagon to her the day before yesterday, why wouldn't she vote for me hoping that my wagon would take off? Lord knows enough of you are ready to lynch me at the drop of a hat, and have said so 🙄