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[Dinashadow]

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The thing is SOV or I could've switched as well in addition to dubs switching which is why I don't understand why Zigs has hard cleared WZ on it. I guess that kind of makes Cray suspicious though.

 

[Dinashadow]

Am I reading this tie situation correctly from last night? It was a three way between Me, SOV, and Dubz and Cray would've been the tie-maker?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Day 9 Kara Makes the Prettiest Ombre Lynch Tally

dinamite (2) - sov, dubz
sov (2) - skim, dinamite
dubz (1) - zigzag

😏 Tie! 😏

SOV and Dina are in the lead!

5/6
Missing: cray

Deadline 10pm est (45 min)

Nope

Y'all can do what you want but don't blame me when you mess up what was laid out as good strategy. I'm staying where I'm at.

Omg. Tomorrow is LyLo either way unless we lynch a wolf today. Our numbers don't make a difference, the configuration of LyLo does. How is this not sinking in?

if I vote dubz we have a 3 way

for lulz

lynch dubz

So right here you made it:
Dina 2
SOV 2
Dubs 2 with dubs having voted for Dina, she could easily have switched over to SOV but she did not

yes and you could die
rng between you dubs, sov, dina, but then dubs could switch to sov

3 way and I'm the maker

here goes 2 of 4 villagers

unlynch dubz

lunch sov

Welp this probably ruined it

She clearly made 2 quotes here, she had TIME to switch before Lynch closed if she wanted, she didn't

Lynch closed results Pending

I was never going to intentionally go with a tie, and you all knew that

No, no we didn't. It would've been better if you did. And we explained that to you a bunch of times.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

The thing is SOV or I could've switched as well in addition to dubs switching which is why I don't understand why Zigs has hard cleared WZ on it. I guess that kind of makes Cray suspicious though.

SOV wasn't online, he said he was sick with the flu.

 

[Dinashadow]

SOV wasn't online, he said he was sick with the flu.

Yes, but I was and I could've switched to Dubz. So why not hard clear me too while you're at it?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

What about it, specifically, please? You keep posting these giant wall o quotes and with basically no commentary explaining what you in particular are gleaning from them. It's very cryptic. It's also a way for a wolf to appear to generate content.

No. I didn't have enough time to elaborate because of said test

OK I am not following you at all

Right, because you haven't played the vast majority of this game and you show up 2 min until Lynch closes so it isn't too suprising you have no ****ing idea what's going on

wat

I really can't tell if you have been being intentionally dense these past 2 days or if it's all a ruse. I really can't imagine someone not understanding what WZ explained to you several times before Lynch close yesterday

and was it actually 2/3 chance of dying? or was it 1/3? might have been worth staying where she was while I flopped for 2 minutes to get to lylo with more town cred, I dunno

I find your maths suspect

My math isn't suspect. If she tied it up between two people she would have a 2/3 chance of dying. Strange that you seemed to be incapable of doing math yesterday but all of a sudden my math is fishy

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

By the way, I highly doubt I'd go anywhere near lynching cray today. I don't find the argument that she's the wolf and left me alive for that reason very compelling. Possible, sure, but skimble was a better kill than me, she was more clear. I think pretty much any wolf would have left me alive here. Hell Mel probably told them before he died to make sure to take me to LyLo because that's how wolves win games 😛

Im not sure what the purpose of saying this is

do you mean you won't go near lynching cray? you can stay on dina, you don't need to switch

 

[WildZoo]

Day 9 Lynch Tracker

dina (1) - SOV
SOV (1) - skimble
SOV (2) - dina
dina (2) - dubz
dubz (1) - zig
dubz (2) - cray
dubz (1) - cray
SOV (3) - cray

Day 8 Lynch Tracker

contingencies
cray (1) - zig
cray (1) - zig
dubz (1) - zig

day start
dina (1) - dubz
SOV (1) - sporty
DocE (1) - dina
dubz (0) - zig
cray (1) - zig
sporty (1) - DocE
dubz (1) - sov
sporty (0) - DocE
cray (2) - DocE
DocE (2) skimble
SOV (0) - sporty
dubz (2) - sporty
cray (1) - zig
dubz (3) - zig
cray (0) - DocE
dina (2) - DocE
dubz (4) - cray
dina (1) - dubz
DocE (3) - dubz
dubz (3) - cray
DocE (4) - cray

Spoiler: D7

Day 7 (Drnk, so apologies for typos) Lynch Tracker

contingencies
Dubz (1) - sporty
zig (1) - sporty
sporty (1) - zig

day opens
MSU (1) - skimble
DocE (1) - dubz
dubz (1) - SOV
zig (2) - DocE
Dina (1) - dolphin
DocE (0) - dubz
MSU (2) - dubz
MSU (1) - dubz
DocE (1) - dubz
dubz (0) - SOV
DocE (2) - SOV
DocE (1) - SOV
dubz (1) - SOV
dubz (0) - SOV
dina (2) - SOV
DocE (0) - dubz
dubz (2) - MSU
dina (3) - dubz
MSU (0) - skim
cray (1) - skim
zig (1) - sporty
sporty (0) - zig
MSU (1) - zig
dina (2) - dubz
MSU (2) - dubz
MSU (1) - zig
cray (2) - zig
cray (3) - dina
dina (3) - cray
cray (2) - skim
MSU (2) - skim
dina (2) - SOV
MSU (3) - SOV
dubz (2) - sporty
dubz (1) - sporty
dina (3) - sporty
dina (2) - sporty
cray (3) - sporty
cray (2) - sporty
dina (3) - sporty
cray (1) - zig
MSU (4) - zig

Spoiler: D6

Day 6 Lynch Tracker

contingencies
Mel (1) - zig
mel (2) - sporty
SAR (1) - mel
SAR (2) - MJ

MJ dead - day open
SOV (1) - SAR
Mel (3) - SOV
Mel (4) - skim
Dina (1) - DocE
SAR (2) - MSU
SOV (2) - dubz
SOV (3) - dina
SAR (1) - MSU
Mel (5) - MSU
SAR (0) - Mel
SOV (4) - Mel
Mel (4) - SOV
SAR (1) - SOV
dina (0) - DocE
SOV (5) - DocE
SOV (4) - cheezit
SAR (2)- cheezit
mel (5) - craycray
SAR (1) - cheezit
SOV (5) - cheezit
skim (1) - dolphin
skim (0) - dolphin
cheezit (6) - dolphin

Spoiler: D5

Day 5 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:
coffee (1) - sporty
coffee (2) - zig
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (1) - zig
AM (1) - zig

day start - AM dead
coffee (2)- Dina
coffee (3) - zig
dubz (1) - SAR
skim (1) - dubz
SOV (2) - dolphin
dubz (2) - SOV
coffee (4) - MJ
skim (0) - dubz
le cheez (1) - dubz
dubz (1) - SAR
MJ (1) - SAR
cheez (2) - skim
dubz (0) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
covfefe (6) - MSU
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (5) - sporty
mel (3) - sport
coffee (6) - cheez
mel (4) - craycray
covfefe (5)- zig
chez (5) - zig
SOV (0) - dolphin
coffee (6) - dolphin
coffee (7) - DocE
cheezit (4) - dubz
covfefe (8) - dubz

Spoiler: D4

Day 4 Lynch Tracker

contingencies:

coffee (1) - AM
coffee (2) - Dina
sporty (1) - grebes/cray
cheezit (1) - sporty
mutts (1) - zig

day start

mutts (0) - zig
coffee (3) - zig
cheezit (2) - skimble
skimble (1) - dubz
MSU (1) - SOV
cheezit (3) - coffee
coffee (4) - SAR
coffee (5) - killer
SOV (1) - cheezit
coffee (6) - dolphin
cheezit (4) - mutts
~Dead mutts~
cheezit (3)
coffee (7) - MSU
cheezit (4) - MJ
cheezit (3) - covfefe
zig (1) - covfefe
SOV (0) - cheezit
zig (2) - cheezit
coffee (6) - dolphin
zig (3) - dolphin

Spoiler: D3

Day 3 Lynch Tracker

SOV (1) - AM
SOV (2) - Cheezit
dubz (1) - zig
sporty (1) - grebes/cray
sporty (2) - dubz
SOV (3) - SAR
killer (1) - SOV
capri (1) - dina
sporty (1) - grebes/cray
capri (2) - grebes/cray
MJ (1) - MSU
grebes (1) - skimble
cheezit (1) - dolphin
capri (3) - MJ
capri (4) - mutts
SOV (4) - barks
SOV (3) - AM
coffee (1) - AM
MSU votes for mutts but does not unlynch first
SOV (2) - barks
mutts (1) - barks
SOV (3) - capri
MJ (0) - MSU
mutts (2) - MSU
coffee (2) - killer
sporty (0) - dubz
dubz (0) - zig
mutts (3) - zig
coffee (3) - dubz
cheez (2) - koffee
SOV (2) - SAR
kovfefe (4) - SAR
SOV (1) - capri
covfefe (5) - capri
coffee (4) - dubz
coffee? (5) - sporty
sporty (1) - dubz
killer (0) - SOV
coffee (6) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
killer (1) - SOV
sporty (0) - dubz
cheezit (3) - dubz
coffee (4) - sporty
cheez (4) - sporty
killer (0) - SOV
mutts (4) - SOV
mutts (3) - MSU
cheezit (5) - MSU
cheezit (4) - dubz
mutts (2) - SOV
coffee (5) - SOV
SOV (0) - cheeez
coffee (6) - cheeeez
coffee (5) - SOV
sporty (1) - dubz
cheezit (3) - coffee
capri (5) - coffee
coffee (4) - cheez
sporty (2) - cheez
killer (1) - SOV

Spoiler: D2

Day 2 Lynch Tracker

capri (1) - dubz
snowy (1) - AM
zig (1) - skim
dubz (1) - zig
zig (2) - SOV
capri (2) - grebes
mpm (1) - dina
zig (3) - cheezit
capri (3) - killer
zig (4) - mpm
dubz (0) - zig
capri (4) - zig
mutts (1) - barks
grebes (1) - snowy
capri (3) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
coffee (1) - sporty
zig (3) - cheezit
SOV (1) - cheezit
snowy (3) - dolph
grebes (0) - snowy
capri (4) - snowy
snowy (4) - genny
capri (5) - mutts
zig (4) - capri
zig (3) - capri
snowy (5) - capri
capri (4) - zig
snowy (6) - zig
snowy (7) - coffee
snowy (6) - AM
SOV (2) - AM
snowy (5) - dubz
capri (5) - dubz
mutts (2) - MSU
capri (4) - dubz
snowy (6) - dubz

Spoiler: D1

Day 1 Lynch Tracker

killer (1) - sobsob
grebes (1) - AM
cheezit (1) - skilary
AM (1) - capri
AM (2) - MSU
MSU (1) - barks
capri (1) - grebes
dubz (1) - sportsport
AM (3) - dubz
dubz (2) - killer
barks (1) - zig
Killer (0) - sobsob
cubs (1) - sobsob
sobsob (1) - cubs
cubs (2) - mpm
sobsob (0) - cubs
AM (2) - MSU
dubz (3) - SAR
zig (1) - cheez
AM (1) - dubz
barks (2) - dubz
sporty (1) - genny
cheez (2) - dolphin
barks (3) - mutts
cubs (3) - MJ
barks (4) - snowy
coffee? (1) - cubs
grebes (1) - AM
snowy (1) - AM
sporty (0) - genny
cubs (4) - genny
dubz (2) - SAR
coffee? (2) - SAR
coffee? (1) - cubs
barks (5) - cubs
dubz (3) - dina
dubz (2) - sport
coffee? (2) - sport
genny (1) - MSU
barks (4) - dubz
coffee (3) - dubz
mutts (1) - coffee
coffee (2) - dubz
snowy (2) - dubz
capri (2) - bj
barks (3) - mutts
capri (3) - mutts
snowy (1) - dubz
zig (2) - dubz

 

[WildZoo]

Im not sure what the purpose of saying this is

do you mean you won't go near lynching cray? you can stay on dina, you don't need to switch

That was more to say that I don't really agree that cray should be the second party in the tie situation if we make a tie situation.

 

[WildZoo]

I thought finding an original was supposed to be easier than finding a convert

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Yes, but I was and I could've switched to Dubz. So why not hard clear me too while you're at it?

You didn't knowingly sit on making a tie all day. You were tied, you didn't make the tie. You couldn't have done anything about it. There's a difference there.

Cray posted the Lynch and Unlynch of dubs within a minute of one another, I don't see how you would've been able to react to it that fast or that you could've been happy the tie was diffused between 4 people and would just try and hope the coin toss was in your favor.

 

[Karabiner13]

D10 No time for Colors or Gifs Lynch Tally

cray (1) - zigzag
dina (1) - dubz
zigzag (2) - cray, Dina

Zigzag's in the lead!

4/4

Deadline 10pm est (~1 hour)

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

That was more to say that I don't really agree that cray should be the second party in the tie situation if we make a tie situation.

(as it stands)The way I figure it, if dubs is wolf (which I dont believe), she has already won the game. If dina is wolf, she has already lost the game. If it's cray, it could go either way.

 

[WildZoo]

I want to personally thank @Lawper for keeping the TOC up to date, because I have used it multiple times a day 🙂

 

[WildZoo]

quotes

Yeah but what if you're the wolf?

 

[Dinashadow]

You didn't knowingly sit on making a tie all day. You were tied, you didn't make the tie. You couldn't have done anything about it. There's a difference there.

Cray posted the Lynch and Unlynch of dubs within a minute of one another, I don't see how you would've been able to react to it that fast or that you could've been happy the tie was diffused between 4 people and would just try and hope the coin toss was in your favor.

There's really not much of a difference. I was on and saw what was going on. You can't say that it was too fast to react for me but not for WZ.

Responding to the bold part: the same could be applied to WZ.

You're twisting the scenario to fit whatever situation you've created in your head. Right now there is most likely going to be a tie between you and me with you as the tie maker. Process that for a second and see if you feel happy with that.

 

[WildZoo]

Putting the dead villagers on ignore to reread is great and all, but sometimes I wish I could put myself on ignore...

 

[WildZoo]

There's really not much of a difference. I was on and saw what was going on. You can't say that it was too fast to react for me but not for WZ.

Responding to the bold part: the same could be applied to WZ.

You're twisting the scenario to fit whatever situation you've created in your head. Right now there is most likely going to be a tie between you and me with you as the tie maker. Process that for a second and see if you feel happy with that.

I'm actually kind of confused what you should be getting credit for? I volunteered to be part of the tie situation. I could easily have said no or just not created the tie or whatever. I actually fully expected someone to jump to me when cray made the 3 way, which is why I said she had probably ruined it by doing that.

Also she can say it wasn't too fast to react for me because I posted between that vote and the close of lynch, so I could have moved lol

 

[Karabiner13]

I want to personally thank @Lawper for keeping the TOC up to date, because I have used it multiple times a day 🙂

No one ever thanks me in my games for this and I typically (unless I'm out of town) keep my TOC updated

 

[WildZoo]

No one ever thanks me in my games for this and I typically (unless I'm out of town) keep my TOC updated

Well, they are particularly useful when I'm making lynch trackers, which I don't do every game

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Right now there is most likely going to be a tie between you and me with you as the tie maker. Process that for a second and see if you feel happy with that.

I literally have already processed it. Read my quotes. I would prefer the tie be between you and cray because I know my affiliation. But I have also come to terms with the fact that it might be between us and if that's the next best I can do, then so be it. I really won't care if I am dead if I take out the wolf in the process

Your options are pretty straightforward.
- You either stay with my Lynch and I Lynch you and we both die. if you're a villager this would kill 2 villagers and village would lose
- You switch to cray and cray switches to you and you both die
- Or cray switches to you so you switch to cray and you and cray still both die

So pretty much no matter what, you're going to die. It's really a matter of whether you think I'm the wolf, or cray
I'm not voting for dubs. If she is the wolf, then fine, she can win.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Yeah but what if you're the wolf?

I didn't state that because I know my affiliation.

 

[Dinashadow]

I'm actually kind of confused what you should be getting credit for? I volunteered to be part of the tie situation. I could easily have said no or just not created the tie or whatever. I actually fully expected someone to jump to me when cray made the 3 way, which is why I said she had probably ruined it by doing that.

Also she can say it wasn't too fast to react for me because I posted between that vote and the close of lynch, so I could have moved lol

I'm not asking for credit. I'm just trying to get her to understand why it shouldn't hard clear you (which you aren't going to agree with obviously)

Yes but I'm saying the logic of me being happy it was being diffused between 4 people can be applied to you.

 

[Dinashadow]

I literally have already processed it. Read my quotes. I would prefer the tie be between you and cray because I know my affiliation. But I have also come to terms with the fact that it might be between us and if that's the next best I can do, then so be it. I really won't care if I am dead if I take out the wolf in the process

Your options are pretty straightforward.
- You either stay with my Lynch and I Lynch you and we both die. if you're a villager this would kill 2 villagers and village would lose
- You switch to cray and cray switches to you and you both die
- Or cray switches to you so you switch to cray and you and cray still both die

So pretty much no matter what, you're going to die. It's really a matter of whether you think I'm the wolf, or cray
I'm not voting for dubs. If she is the wolf, then fine, she can win.

Not necessarily. You'd be the tie-maker and in the tie therefore 100% of you getting lynched and 33% chance of me being lynched. Unless you have some kind of lynch avoidance?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Not necessarily. You'd be the tie-maker and in the tie therefore 100% of you getting lynched and 33% chance of me being lynched. Unless you have some kind of lynch avoidance?

You must not be following very well. The mods said 2 people will die, irregardless of who made the tie.

 

[WildZoo]

Not necessarily. You'd be the tie-maker and in the tie therefore 100% of you getting lynched and 33% chance of me being lynched. Unless you have some kind of lynch avoidance?

Pip already said she would kill two people (because more death) in this situation. So you would both die if the tie is between you and zig and she is the tie maker.

 

[WildZoo]

 

[WildZoo]

I am rereading but I'm pretty sure the conclusion I will draw will be "It's Dina if wolves were not fancy, its zig if wolves were very fancy"

 

[Dinashadow]

Pip already said she would kill two people (because more death) in this situation. So you would both die if the tie is between you and zig and she is the tie maker.

Ahh I have been under the wrong impression then. Hmm... makes me change my thoughts on zig a bit

 

[Melchizedek]

********************************************************************************

irregardless

*twitch*
********************************************************************************

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

Ahh I have been under the wrong impression then. Hmm... makes me change my thoughts on zig a bit

how so?

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

********************************************************************************

*twitch*
********************************************************************************

**** off

 

[WildZoo]

Ahh I have been under the wrong impression then. Hmm... makes me change my thoughts on zig a bit

Why? She's got no choice. You and cray are on her, if she's village she can self prez and still give the village a chance to win, if she's a wolf it doesn't matter, she's already lost.

 

[Dinashadow]

how so?

You being cool dying in the tie so far.

 

[Dinashadow]

Why? She's got no choice. You and cray are on her, if she's village she can self prez and still give the village a chance to win, if she's a wolf it doesn't matter, she's already lost.

Lynch isn't over yet

 

[WildZoo]

Lynch isn't over yet

I realize that

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

You being cool dying in the tie so far.

I'm fine with dying in a tie, I would just prefer it actually be with the wolf.

I am going to maintain my vote on cray for a little while to give you the ability to switch, but I will switch to you eventually if you don't change.

 

[PippyPony]

30 minutes remaining

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

ok...... because i'm not doing this in any particular order, i'm going to put my wolfiest feels in red.

i will say, i don't like the "chat" slip from dina. she was such a good player in the noob game, i feel like she could play that comment off and keep her cool and people would forget about it, but i would like to keep that slip in mind for the future. definitely set off sketch bells where I had not had any before.

mel: i don't know how to read my manator... and i can't tell if this:

is a subtle pocket attempt (i really have been super busy and i appreciate the village leans... last time someone was trying to back me up like this in a game though they were a wolf, not mel specifically, but it's on my mind). on the other hand, he also seems to be wolf hunting and posting a lot of analysis, which i like. currently sitting in neutral.

sporty: did an ISO, quoted stuff and posted some analysis on coffee when pushed for it, but still, not a lot from her and I feel like she is usually more active, especially as village. wolf feels

coffee set off feels for me D1 with her mechanics talk and over-explanations. hasn't seemed as sketchy to me since then. not sure what i think, especially when i consider her interactions w/ sporty. i don't think they are both wolves, and i have more feels for sporty right now, so i'll put coffee in neutral for now.

have we forgotten about the ziggy lynch?? i'd like to revisit this.

mutts: honestly didn't see the sketch until this
it doesn't make sense. not a lot of sketch. just moved her from village leans to neutral i guess

i don't know how to read dubz at all, so i'll just leave it at that.
same with SOV.

i'd like to hear more from killer (i know, that's ironic coming from me this game... but i feel like i don't have a lot to go on there). i ISO'd and she has 10 posts total, at least 3 are completely fluff, and pretty limited analysis happening in most others too. could easily be a wolf laying low.

same with skimble. 12 posts total, not a lot of depth in any of them. i feel actually more wolfy leans on skimble than on killer.

i'm probably forgetting something, but i hope that this post can start to make up for my lack of participation earlier.

FYI it will be the same for the next 2 days. discussing a possible sub situation. i'd love to keep playing since my schedule clears up after saturday, but i'll be gone all day and for lynch close tomorrow and saturday too, so i get that it might be more fair to you all to have a more active player take over 🙂

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

@Dinashadow would you like a deadline?

 

[Dinashadow]

I'm fine with dying in a tie, I would just prefer it actually be with the wolf.

I am going to maintain my vote on cray for a little while to give you the ability to switch, but I will switch to you eventually if you don't change.

You're going to switch to me no matter what (unless I vote cray which I don't think she's a wolf) which is why I've been hesitating all day. I have the same feelings about dying in a tie but I don't want to be the only one lynched when I know I'm village. You aren't down with voting for dubz and you don't want to listen to why cray and I think she isn't hard cleared.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm reading the zig/cheezit interactions again and idk, if those are fake they are beautifully done. Which leads me to believe them because I very easily picked up in cheezit's fake reaction to coffee's seer reveal.

 

[Dinashadow]

@Dinashadow would you like a deadline?

I have one but thanks

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

If anyone cares.... dont vote cray. I know its current at zero votes (one contigency pulled off of her), but there was some talk about this yesterday and I was hoping to see her response. At some level this is what she ALWAYS does. She checks in and then checks out and its just.... its just cray. I think the last time I saw her play much was when she was in warhammer and she had a raging nerd-on that game, so I get it. So she could be a wolf but, honestly, the slightly better math play is to leave her be until you have only one wolf left and then you can consider if she really seems more suspicious by being her usual highly inactive self.

She has been an inactive wolf before, but in those cases she got sniffed out eventually by process of elimination. but in this game? I just believe she is villager. Enough for me to suggest we dont jump down her throat for phoning it in. We can always come back to her because - and i admit this - its only a *slightly* better move to leave her be until closer to real end game.

2.5 hours left. No one has said anything of merit except that I now really don't buy the SOV complaint. I know I'm gonna get no traction at this point with zigzag or Dinah (you're all crazy to doubt me. #docepride). So I know I just talked about not lynching Crayola but.... Crap... Nothing of merit happened today. I guess taking out the inactive and hoping we are lucky like I said in my previous post works out. If no one is going to act I'm going to do the only move that seems logical among the people left (and among people you will actually believe me on )

Plus my vote for sport was mostly just for the amusement of the infinity-way tie.

Unlynch sport. Lynch cray

Are you smoking crack? While youre right about walls of text youre also missing my entire argument on her: she disappears in nearly every game. And once shes disappeared she is jist out of the game. Go back and see what I wrote very early today. I talked about all of this. I even said that her being silent once she misses a day is so common that I wouldnt (initially) suggest lynching her. But in a situaiton where no one except zigjag and dinah are calling out to me (and no one is listening to me on this), an inactive player is better than other options of people who seem to all be playing legit to me.

Because every time I talk about them I get **** from everyone top to bottom. Im not going to go teeth bared against them if everyone else is telling me im wrong because I know Im then late one to the game here. Im not getting lynched by people grumpy at me not listening to them to not go after dinah and zigjag.

you all keep calling me trying to vote pragmatically flip flopping I just dont get. Maybe I play differently than you all and I actually can be suspicious of one person but still think shaping the final decision is more important. But if you all want to see the old DocE, then you got it.

unlynch cray
lynch dinah

Time for old school DocE.

@Dinashadow, why were you out there throwing out super early and logic-free votes every day as if you were phoning it in for the middle of the game. But now when youre under the micrscope a bit from me youre suddenly around enough to post? Why the crappy play at the start of the day.

Hell Im not expecting an answer. I just want you to talk. Give me info. Let me know who you are and show your furry coat if you have one.

 

[ziggyandjazzy]

I have one but thanks

No, I mean before I switch to you and you lose all ability to flip the vote on to cray. I am maintaining my first position vote for now. Once I switch to you, I am not going back.

 

[Dinashadow]

Yeah you quoting long blocks of quotes mean nothing unless you put explanation behind it. I've re read the game thread already

 

[WildZoo]

Edit: I quoted this for links to more posts related to this discussion


I didn't see you follow up on this. What was your reason for calling it out?

If cubs is new and didn't know about retaliatory voting how does that make him more careful?




So many people haven't responded to lynch votes. People who jump to quickly to respond look... well, jumpy. What exactly is it that makes you think Barkley is being weird? I saw you mentioned her lack of response to you but I looked back and you didn't ask any specific questions that needed detailed responses.


What do you think of cubs now as you are voting for him.. do you think he is a wolf?


Barkley was lynched in the noob game, yes? Seems odd you have forgotten this so soon.

1. You did not track that properly. I said him being retaliatory is imo more indicative of noob than wolf. As a WOLF I think he would be more careful than he was with his vote.
2. I've outlined it several times. you can look back if you so choose.
3. I know she died at some point, idk how. I don't really keep track of those kinds of things, as noticeable in dead chat with other people where I have forgotten the roles other people had countless times. Don't really find it weird that I have "forgotten so soon" but I do find it weird you saying it like this.

Also have a hard time believing coffee and cheez would both gang up on the third packmate, on the same day.

 

[Dinashadow]

No, I mean before I switch to you and you lose all ability to flip the vote on to cray. I am maintaining my first position vote for now. Once I switch to you, I am not going back.

My response to you was sarcastic. Either I switch to cray who I don't think is wolfy and she votes me or I vote dubz and you vote me anyways

 

[Crayola227]

It has nothing to do with staying on the tie the last two minutes. She could've easily broken the tie way before those last 2 minutes. and she didn't. This hard clears her for me, you don't have to agree. It's my opinion.

I have really no idea what motivated you to break that tie or why you did it. And I am going to listen to SOV here and say that breaking the tie WAS wolfy. We would've been better off in endgame with that tie.


My vote for her is not just NKA, like I said.


"zero defense" dude I said I had a midterm, that I was attempting to study for before this bull****.
Yes, I explained my reason. I was anticipating a tie. And I formed a tin foil with you overnight. Could be wrong, could be right

OK, again, you've been pushed to offer something of more substance than the NKA. And the tie thing? Uh, OK.

DUDE zero defense was not you it was the person who said "oh hey yeah I'm off to surgery count me out for the day!" like literally 2 posts and an hour before you came on with your "preemptive" "village" work of trying to make a tie tonight

 

[WildZoo]

1. No I did. That's what I mean. He IS a noob, either way, so if he doesn't know one way or another, how is leaning less wolf than simply more noob?
2. I have gone back and is why I quoted dolphin's post. There is nothing other than "she seems different", didn't respond to your post (which didn't require much of a response), or tried to find a legit reason to vote MSU, which is a fair thing to do, and as you said you were doing the same thing.

What do you think of her more recent posts?
3. so be it

1. I would tend to think as a noob wolf one would avoid retaliation votes. But idk really. It didn't come off wolfy to me, and I found it weird that barks said it was retaliatory and didn't do anything about it
2. If you don't agree with it, don't agree. You don't have to follow. You going to vote btw? or just criticize other people's feels?

I don't really see much that she has posted of substance beyond my initial feels/anything to make me feel differently. She says she is voting for cubs for "self prez". Cubs doesn't seem wolf to me so I don't like it. Haven't seen any valuable reads really.