Yes I know, you are right. Which one you think is better? Would there any difference upon graduation; regarding the diploma's reputation?
How long have you been out of psychiatry residency?
😕 It is only a hunch, but I felt like Maimonides has more supportive environment than SUNY. I can't name it, but there is something I don't like about SUNY. I am not sure how logical it is to create a ROL based on how you felt on the interview day.
I would like to pursue fellowship training and work in an academic institution in the future. If there is no concern regarding location, where to put Penn State? There are lots of research opportunities, good faculty, Sleep research, mood disorders clinic, eating disorders clinic, etc. I can't decide between Penn State, SUNY, and Maimonides, how to rank them; my number 3-4-5 is changing on an hourly basis. Sorry, I kinda hijacked the thread.I would really appreciate any input.
i suppose it depends on what you are looking for. maimonides has a very nice program director who is very supportive of IMGs in general. i dont know who the training director is at SUNY anymore. it used to be goldfinger who was also the chair but i believe he was deposed. he was quite supportive of the residents to a certain extent too. i have seen residents from maimonides present at national conferences btw so if you are proactive about that sort of stuff it definitely seems doable. now i dont want to play down the fact that there are wild differences between residency programs on the whole, but in general residents who succeed are those who work hard, bring solutions and not problems to the administration, say "yes" to things (learning to say no is a more advanced skill), and don't wait for people to come to them with opportunities but create them. i would suggest ranking based on where you feel you would be most supported because ultimately that matters more than how much research is going on or what opportunities may or may not be on hand. it's NYC there are plenty of opportunities to get involved with projects somewhere if you have the drive and are willing to put the work in. i have residents and med students across the country working with me on various projects (including from SDN!) so you are not limited to what is going on at your program, only by your imagination and determination!
Hmm. I see.
When's the last time you saw an optometrist?
This is why you should not tell programs how you are ranking them until you have made your rank list (if at all). if the program director has any sense they will know things change and should not put much stock into such an email right after the interview. i would leave it be at this point, you may well end up there anyway! in the event you end up at your number one, unless you were really a highly ranked applicant at this other program, then they aren't going care/notice. if they do care and make a stink about it, then you lucked out by not ending up at a program with a narcissistic program director! since their ranking should not be swayed by how you plan to rank them, you do not have a moral obligation to tell them how you plan on ranking them now. the worst thing that could happen is you get black listed from said program in the future (which is a good thing!) just dont send anymore love letters to programs.
FYI - integrative care is like acupuncture, homeopathy, coffee enemas, reiki and that sort of thing. I think you mean integrated care which is about psychiatry working closely with primary care or specialist medical care. out of the programs you mentioned GW has the strongest reputation for CL - both inpatient and outpatient followed possibly by BI.
One of these things is not like the other :0
Sorry to bump my own post..
AFAIK, you will not find strong OUTPATIENT CL at most places in Boston. There are fledgling faculty trying to get things going, but it's not a strong point.
This is untrue w/r/t BIDMC. I'm sure BIDMC is happy to have hard working folks who simply want to be excellent clinical psychiatrists. That said, it's not a bad place to be for research.
None of these will hurt you at all.
Not if you'd strongly prefer to live in the NE.
Thank you, that's very reassuring. UIC is one of the 5 I have the most concerns about, mostly because 2 advisors at my medical school made very disparaging comments about it when I mentioned I was thinking of ranking it very highly. I really loved it but I'm concerned about the reputation it holds nationally, and whether it would hold me back at all if I wanted to practice back home out east in an academic setting.
Probably help a teensy bit--mainly by increasing your level of familiarity with your options.
primary care psychiatry is painful. id rather gouge my eyes out. but then general psychiatry is equally awful. embedded neurology, transplant, or psycho-oncology services are NOT integrated care though. embedding a psychiatrist in a clinic is usually co-location at best. in true integrated care models, there is a care manager who fields the referrals, they follow measurement based practice, provide time limited evidence-based psychotherapies, the psychiatrist does not see most of the patient, and makes recs based on chart review and discussion with the care manager, and only sees the more complex patients. ideally, there should be a consultation based model (i.e. psychiatrist doesn't treat, prescribe, manage pts) and participates in team meetings or is otherwise recognized as an important part of the multidisciplinary team.
