*~*~*~*Official TMDSAS Questions Thread 2020-2021*~*~*~*

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Refer to pages 44 to 46 in the TMDSAS handbook. If this still doesn't answer your question, message TMDSAS within the portal.
If you have not already hit submit on your app, the TMDSAS staff might be able to help you substitute your committee letter for one of the others.
If you already submitted, you can't retract a letter!


I have already submitted my application, so is there anything I can do? I think I need to submit the committee letter from school
 
So is there anything I can do? I think I need to submit the committee letter from school
As I suggested, ask TMDSAS on your portal.
How will this affect your app? Probably not as badly as you think. The schools are going to read your 4 letters anyhow.
There are not all that many TX colleges who do a committee letter.

The worst that will happen is the med school will know, "Hey, Texas Cattle University has a committee letter, I wonder why @fuzzadook didn't get one? We better ask them about that if we interview them." Also, unfortunately, it makes you look careless or clueless because you didn't know your school had a committee letter.
 
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also, does anybody know the requirements for letters? like A&M has on their website that they prefer professor letters (at least that's how I was interpreting it) and only want letters from research mentors/ advisors if I can't get professor letters. I couldn't find any clear guidance for the other schools.
MSAR may have info for each school regarding letters. However, TMDSAS recommends letters from people who can evaluate you academically and personally and I think schools will follow those recommendations.

I attended an undergrad that has a premed committee and does the committee letter/packet. I didn't use them and submitted individual letters and had no problems. However, I graduated back in 2016 so maybe the med schools weren't expecting a committee letter from me.
 
As I suggested, ask TMDSAS on your portal.
How will this affect your app? Probably not as badly as you think. The schools are going to read your 4 letters anyhow.
There are not all that many TX colleges who do a committee letter.

The worst that will happen is the med school will know, "Hey, Texas Cattle University has a committee letter, I wonder why @fuzzadook didn't get one? We better ask them about that if we interview them." Also, unfortunately, it makes you look careless or clueless because you didn't know your school had a committee letter.


That makes me feel a bit better. I sent a message to tmdsas through the portal as you suggested, but in the event that they can't delete it, should I contact the schools individually, or as you mentioned wait it out?

Also, is there any way that I can explain why i don't have the committee letter that makes me look less dumb for not having it haha
 
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That makes me feel a bit better. I sent a message to tmdsas through the portal as you suggested, but in the event that they can't delete it, should I contact the schools individually, or as you mentioned wait it out?
See what TMDSAS says. It might be best to just do nothing now. I doubt your college would mail it to all your schools, and it would just bring attention to your mistake.
 
Hello! I'm new to sdn, and I had some questions about the TMDSAS activities section. I've tried combing through previous posts, but I would still appreciate some clarification—I apologize in advance for any redundancy.

Club membership/leadership
From my understanding, if I were a member of a club and got promoted to a leadership position, it's okay to list them separately and split the hours, right? This is what I'm planning on doing: I will place my membership of ~35 hr under Extracurricular and Leisure, describing what I did and learned, followed by a statement of "promoted to X leadership position in Jan 2020." I will place my leadership position of ~64 hrs under Leadership, describing my duties more in-depth. Is this alright?

Research
I've been involved in multiple projects in the same lab. Each semester, my PI assigned me an additional project. I devoted less time to individual projects as I gained new ones.
Spring 2019: Project X (12h/wk)
Fall 2019: Project X & Y (~6 h/wk for each)
Spring 2020: Project X (3 h/wk), Y (6 h/wk), and Z (3 h/wk)
I'm listing each project as a separate research activity. I can count up the total cumulative hours for each project, but how would I go about stating the hours/wk for each with the most amount of accuracy?

For a research project that resulted in a presentation, do I talk about the actual research for the "short description" of the presentation? Or is it alright if I use that area to expand on the insights I gained from delivering the presentation?

For meaningful activities, do I need to state the name of the activity verbatim (i.e. can I simply state 1-2 words that refer to the activity)? One of mine is a specific research project with a long title, and I would like to save up on the characters...

Healthcare Activities
I volunteered in the ER in summer 2019 and spring 2020 (skipped fall semester), and I plan on continuing once the covid19 situation gets better. Would I list this as two separate activities given the two time periods, but with the same description? Or can I list it as a continuous activity from may 2019-oct 2020 with the proper number of hours, and later add it in planned activities? I also have this question about some of my other volunteering activities that have a break period (like summer break).

Thanks in advance!
 
Hello! I'm new to sdn, and I had some questions about the TMDSAS activities section. I've tried combing through previous posts, but I would still appreciate some clarification—I apologize in advance for any redundancy.

Club membership/leadership
From my understanding, if I were a member of a club and got promoted to a leadership position, it's okay to list them separately and split the hours, right? This is what I'm planning on doing: I will place my membership of ~35 hr under Extracurricular and Leisure, describing what I did and learned, followed by a statement of "promoted to X leadership position in Jan 2020." I will place my leadership position of ~64 hrs under Leadership, describing my duties more in-depth. Is this alright?

Research
I've been involved in multiple projects in the same lab. Each semester, my PI assigned me an additional project. I devoted less time to individual projects as I gained new ones.
Spring 2019: Project X (12h/wk)
Fall 2019: Project X & Y (~6 h/wk for each)
Spring 2020: Project X (3 h/wk), Y (6 h/wk), and Z (3 h/wk)
I'm listing each project as a separate research activity. I can count up the total cumulative hours for each project, but how would I go about stating the hours/wk for each with the most amount of accuracy?

For a research project that resulted in a presentation, do I talk about the actual research for the "short description" of the presentation? Or is it alright if I use that area to expand on the insights I gained from delivering the presentation?

For meaningful activities, do I need to state the name of the activity verbatim (i.e. can I simply state 1-2 words that refer to the activity)? One of mine is a specific research project with a long title, and I would like to save up on the characters...

Healthcare Activities
I volunteered in the ER in summer 2019 and spring 2020 (skipped fall semester), and I plan on continuing once the covid19 situation gets better. Would I list this as two separate activities given the two time periods, but with the same description? Or can I list it as a continuous activity from may 2019-oct 2020 with the proper number of hours, and later add it in planned activities? I also have this question about some of my other volunteering activities that have a break period (like summer break).

Thanks in advance!
@ss46 welcome to SDN

1. club
Choose only 1 category to put this club in. I would probably choose Leadership and then in the description talk about your length of membership and list what the club does.
Do not put the same activity in 2 different categories (see the TMDSAS guide).
i.e. the way you plan to do it is not correct
2. Research
List each of these 3 projects separately. This serves 2 purposes: it lets you have more room to describe each one, and it lets you get the hours exactly right.
If any of the research projects resulted in a publication, click “yes” and a drop- down space will open to allow you to list that super-long publication title.
3. Which meaningful activity it is will be clear from what you write. You don’t have to rewrite the title
4. Healthcare list your past one with appropriate dates and list it with a similar description in Planned Activities (start date October or November 2020.

proofread everything well and print-preview your app to proofread again before submission.
 
Hello! I had a couple of questions regarding the TMDSAS app.
1.) I currently applied for a tutoring position with a tutoring company and I am waiting to hear back from them. Should I enter this on the TMDSAS app and if so, under what section?
2.) I shadowed and volunteered in the same clinic. Should I list these as 2 separate activities?
 
Hello! I had a couple of questions regarding the TMDSAS app.
1.) I currently applied for a tutoring position with a tutoring company and I am waiting to hear back from them. Should I enter this on the TMDSAS app and if so, under what section?
2.) I shadowed and volunteered in the same clinic. Should I list these as 2 separate activities?
You can list searching for a tutoring job under planned or current activities. You don't know yet...
Shadowing and volunteering can be separate, as the descriptions will differ. In one you were a passive observer (and you want to clearly list shadowing hours to be counted) and in the other you presumably had some tasks or duties.
 
You can list searching for a tutoring job under planned or current activities. You don't know yet...
Shadowing and volunteering can be separate, as the descriptions will differ. In one you were a passive observer (and you want to clearly list shadowing hours to be counted) and in the other you presumably had some tasks or duties.
Thank You! I will go ahead and put this as a planned activity as I don't know when they will get back to me. I had a couple more questions regarding the tutoring position. For "Activity name" I would put something along the lines of" searching for a tutoring job" and for the description, I would explain what the tutoring job is supposed to entail if I receive an offer? Sorry for the redundant questions! I want to make sure I am entering this information the way it's supposed to be entered.
 
What would be the best way to classify a 'Q-drop' course? I went to UT Austin for undergrad and their 'Q-drop' option seems to be a unique system where it is essentially withdrawing from a class and the grade shows up as a Q on my transcript. I retook the course and got a better grade, but I am unsure how to classify my grade for the initial course- on p 28 of the TMDSAS handbook the options are 'Withdrew' or 'Quit'?
 
What would be the best way to classify a 'Q-drop' course? I went to UT Austin for undergrad and their 'Q-drop' option seems to be a unique system where it is essentially withdrawing from a class and the grade shows up as a Q on my transcript. I retook the course and got a better grade, but I am unsure how to classify my grade for the initial course- on p 28 of the TMDSAS handbook the options are 'Withdrew' or 'Quit'?
It’s essentially a withdrawal. UT Austin lets you use this "Q drop" a limited number of times, usually in the circumstance that it's near the end of the term, it's past the usual withdraw from the class date, but you sense you're in danger of failing. So it's a WIthdraw, past the withdraw date, no questions asked by UT.
You would call the first time a withdraw, say it's not the last time you took the class,then list your retake grade as Yes it's the last time you took the class..
 
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Thank You! I will go ahead and put this as a planned activity as I don't know when they will get back to me. I had a couple more questions regarding the tutoring position. For "Activity name" I would put something along the lines of" searching for a tutoring job" and for the description, I would explain what the tutoring job is supposed to entail if I receive an offer? Sorry for the redundant questions! I want to make sure I am entering this information the way it's supposed to be entered.
Use your best judgement
 
Does anyone know what date of submission they’re currently processing? I know it’s usually posted on their twitter @TMDSASSupport but it doesn’t seem like they’re doing that this year.
 
Does anyone know what date of submission they’re currently processing? I know it’s usually posted on their twitter @TMDSASSupport but it doesn’t seem like they’re doing that this year.

On the TMDSAS login page it says they’re processing apps from May 27th today


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Does anyone know what date of submission they’re currently processing? I know it’s usually posted on their twitter @TMDSASSupport but it doesn’t seem like they’re doing that this year.
This year they are putting the date progress counter on their TMDSAS page Here:
Apply
 
If we "double dip" activities (e.g. clinical research as both health care and clinical or a club officer position as both leadership and extracurricular) do we have to split up the hours or do we put the same amount of hours twice?

Let's say I have 200 hours of clinical research. If I put this in healthcare and research, should I do 100 hours each or 200 hours each?
 
If we "double dip" activities (e.g. clinical research as both health care and clinical or a club officer position as both leadership and extracurricular) do we have to split up the hours or do we put the same amount of hours twice?

Let's say I have 200 hours of clinical research. If I put this in healthcare and research, should I do 100 hours each or 200 hours each?
You may no longer list the same activity in 2 categories, except if it is healthcare and employment.
No double dipping on the others.
List your club officer under leadership then discuss your activities and years you belonged in the description.
 
You may no longer list the same activity in 2 categories, except if it is healthcare and employment.
No double dipping on the others.
List your club officer under leadership then discuss your activities and years you belonged in the description.

Can you put hours in leadership now? Read here you coudn't
 
Can you put hours in leadership now? Read here you coudn't
Actually you can't (that is, there is no drop-down box for the hours), but use your own judgement.
Is it more important to you to have a Leadership activity, or to be able to say how many hours you spent in the club?
But if you choose to list it as Leadership, you can mention the hours spent in your description.
 
Is there any place to put contact info for activities on TMDSAS? Just noticed it doesn't have that like AMCAS.
 
Is there any place to put contact info for activities on TMDSAS? Just noticed it doesn't have that like AMCAS.
It's not a required part of your activities on TMDSAS, but it might be important on the Research section, if you have any, to list your primary investigator/supervisor by name.
 
Is TMDSAS really behind on processing? I thought they're usually like 2-3 weeks behind but right now they are still on late May. Will this application cycle timeline be extended? I applied mid June hoping to get everything submitted in late June, but it seems like it might take until Mid July to get my secondaries. Is that fine or am I screwed?
 
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Is TMDSAS really behind on processing? I thought they're usually like 2-3 weeks behind but right now they are still on late May? Will this application cycle timeline be extended? I applied mid June hoping to get everything submitted in late June, but it seems like it might take until Mid July to get my secondaries. Is that fine or am I screwed?
You are fine!! Check your TMDSAS portal twice a week to see if they have sent you any messages or questions. Once transmitted to schools, most peeps are getting their secondaries promptly.
“Watch” all the TX school-specific threads here on SDN and you can catch the secondary prompts there and begin writing.
You got this!
 
You may no longer list the same activity in 2 categories, except if it is healthcare and employment.
No double dipping on the others.
List your club officer under leadership then discuss your activities and years you belonged in the description.

I am wondering about "academic recognition"? Suppose I work on lab research, and produce a paper from this, which is published in a journal. I am listed as the first author. Can I mention the hours doing research, under "research activities." And then list the paper under "academic recognition"? Since being a co-author counts as being prestigious, correct? Thank you
 
I am wondering about "academic recognition"? Suppose I work on lab research, and produce a paper from this, which is published in a journal. I am listed as the first author. Can I mention the hours doing research, under "research activities." And then list the paper under "academic recognition"? Since being a co-author counts as being prestigious, correct? Thank you
Your research and paper should go under research. If you have a pub, you will get more room to write about it.
Academic recognition would be more like scholarship, honors, awards, etc
 
Your research and paper should go under research. If you have a pub, you will get more room to write about it.
Academic recognition would be more like scholarship, honors, awards, etc
Ok thank you.
 
Had 2 questions:
  1. For transcripts, TMDSAS says do not send until requested. Does that mean we will get verified without transcripts?
  2. Is the optional essay truly "optional"? I can think of some things to write, but would rather not force it.
 
Had 2 questions:
  1. For transcripts, TMDSAS says do not send until requested. Does that mean we will get verified without transcripts?
  2. Is the optional essay truly "optional"? I can think of some things to write, but would rather not force it.
1. True, do not send until requested. TMDSAS will email you and message you on your portal. Verification involves checking your app for completeness, calculating your GPA in a variety of ways, categorizing your classes into pre-requisite categories, determining your Texas Residency status, among other things. Later on, when their work load slows down, they will get your transcripts from you and compare them to what you entered on the app, line by line.
2. It is optional, so if you feel you are stretching it, and your essay doesn't add anything to what you have said, you can omit.

3. You didn't ask this, but: After you submit, watch for messages from TMDSAS on your portal and respond if they ask for clarification about something on your app. These messages will probably be about 3 weeks after you submit.
Also watch for what they call the PCR (prescribed coursework review) in which your applicant liaison will message you in the portal, for you to check the way your courses have been classified. If you don't agree with something in it, you have 7 days to reply to ask for a review.

4. After you submit, keep logging in to your TMDSAS portal about once a week to check for messages and you can check the "status" of everything on your app.
 
Thank you wysdoc, I appreciate your help/advice. I had 2 more questions:
  1. Can you add LORs to TMDSAS after submitting like how you can with AMCAS? I'm trying to get a LOR from someone, but they still need to write it.
  2. How late is too late for OOS? Is there like an ideal complete date, for AMCAS September is usually thrown around.
 
Thank you wysdoc, I appreciate your help/advice. I had 2 more questions:
  1. Can you add LORs to TMDSAS after submitting like how you can with AMCAS? I'm trying to get a LOR from someone, but they still need to write it.
  2. How late is too late for OOS? Is there like an ideal complete date, for AMCAS September is usually thrown around.
Yes you can add letters later, 4 letters maximum.
Try to submit your primary by the end of July.
 
Hi all, question regarding OOS chances based on curiosity.

I have solid stats and excellent essays that have been reviewed by a former admissions officer, but no personal ties to Texas ......... though some professional ties!:

- I worked as a research associate (contractor) for UT Health and a few other Texas health systems
- I am now volunteering for UT Austin Dell Medical School (remotely), though I started after I submitted my primary (submitted on June 16th) so it's not mentioned anywhere on my application

Curious what the OOS applicant experience is, especially for people who have professional ties.
 
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Hi all, question regarding OOS chances based on curiosity.

I have solid stats and excellent essays that have been reviewed by a former admissions officer, but no personal ties to Texas ......... though some professional ties!:

- I worked as a research associate (contractor) for UT Health and a few other Texas health systems
- I am now volunteering for UT Austin Dell Medical School (remotely), though I started after I submitted my primary (submitted on June 16th) so it's not mentioned anywhere on my application

Curious what the OOS applicant experience is, especially for people who have professional ties.
You don’t have to have TX ties to get in as an OOS applicant, but you do have to have a strong well-rounded app and stats that are at or above the median for matriculants
 
You don’t have to have TX ties to get in as an OOS applicant, but you do have to have a strong well-rounded app and stats that are at or above the median for matriculants

Thanks for that info. I know Dell has a flipped classroom and I work in science education on researching & implementing the same kind of curricula changes in STEM. Do any other Texas schools use a flipped classroom? Would having that background be advantageous to applying to a unique program like Dell?
 
Thanks for that info. I know Dell has a flipped classroom and I work in science education on researching & implementing the same kind of curricula changes in STEM. Do any other Texas schools use a flipped classroom? Would having that background be advantageous to applying to a unique program like Dell?
TCU/UNTHSC and TX A&M EnMed track do for sure, and the other schools may use it in part.
 
TCU/UNTHSC and TX A&M EnMed track do for sure, and the other schools may use it in part.

Thanks! Do you think experience implementing a similar curriculum would be advantageous to emphasize in primary and/or secondary applications? Dell is one of my top choices due to their accelerated, active curriculum as well as the earlier clinical opportunities.
 
Thanks! Do you think experience implementing a similar curriculum would be advantageous to emphasize in primary and/or secondary applications? Dell is one of my top choices due to their accelerated, active curriculum as well as the earlier clinical opportunities.
I can give general information, but I won't tell anyone what to write :bag:. That's what makes each person's app unique!
You can write or talk about your teaching experiences in any part of the primary or secondary, or list of activities, that you find appropriate.
 
Howdy! A couple of questions, if you don't mind.
1. In which activity section does teaching/TA go? Extracurricular & Leisure? Employment? I wasn't paid anything. I simply undertook the position. I saw someone ask a similar question on this thread, but there's was more-so a job in a store than teaching/TA, so I wanted to ask.
2. For activity descriptions, are they a bit more matter-of-fact than on AMCAS? 300 characters is so limited. I recognize we have the 3 most meaningful, but I just wanted to get an opinion.

Thanks! 😀
 
Howdy! A couple of questions, if you don't mind.
1. In which activity section does teaching/TA go? Extracurricular & Leisure? Employment? I wasn't paid anything. I simply undertook the position. I saw someone ask a similar question on this thread, but there's was more-so a job in a store than teaching/TA, so I wanted to ask.
2. For activity descriptions, are they a bit more matter-of-fact than on AMCAS? 300 characters is so limited. I recognize we have the 3 most meaningful, but I just wanted to get an opinion.

Thanks! 😀

@LoopyKazoo
1. Kind of a tough one because none of the TMDSAS categories quite fit, but I would suggest putting it under Employment. You had job duties even though you weren't paid $$.
2. Yes, you do have to get to the point on the TMDSAS activities. You might have space to briefly say what you did and how you gained skills/ personal growth from it. And then expand in your 3 most meaningful space.

3. Folks that do the TMDSAS app first, then AMCAS, suddenly realize that they only have one big essay on AMCAS (the personal statement) and that all the great things they said in their "Personal Characteristics" essay and "Optional" essay will be left behind.
Clever applicants can use the bigger space (character count) available on the activity descriptions in AMCAS to bring across some of those points as they pertain to individual activities.
 
@wysdoc Thanks for your feedback! I've been working on TMDSAS and AMCAS side-by-side, so I think that this is a great idea about bringing over some of the wording from AMCAS. I'll work with it and go from there. Cheers!

Also, regarding entering coursework: I've read through the TMDSAS (and AMCAS) applicant guides and there seems to be a slight difference, correct me if I'm wrong. AMCAS asks that course titles be written "exactly as they appear on your transcript," while TMDSAS seems a bit more ambiguous. They mention something along the lines of, "Only abbreviate course titles when necessary. Use your best judgement." Does this mean that if a course title is abbreviated on my transcript, but I think spelling out some of the abbreviated words may be helpful to someone reading my course titles, I can go ahead and write out the course title in full? Even if the abbreviated version is what appears on my transcript? Obviously I can't change the course title itself, but I just wondered if I could write out the full title on TMDSAS.
 
@wysdoc Thanks for your feedback! I've been working on TMDSAS and AMCAS side-by-side, so I think that this is a great idea about bringing over some of the wording from AMCAS. I'll work with it and go from there. Cheers!

Also, regarding entering coursework: I've read through the TMDSAS (and AMCAS) applicant guides and there seems to be a slight difference, correct me if I'm wrong. AMCAS asks that course titles be written "exactly as they appear on your transcript," while TMDSAS seems a bit more ambiguous. They mention something along the lines of, "Only abbreviate course titles when necessary. Use your best judgement." Does this mean that if a course title is abbreviated on my transcript, but I think spelling out some of the abbreviated words may be helpful to someone reading my course titles, I can go ahead and write out the course title in full? Even if the abbreviated version is what appears on my transcript? Obviously I can't change the course title itself, but I just wondered if I could write out the full title on TMDSAS.
For the fastest verification, write your courses exactly as they appear on your transcript, for both apps.
AMCAS wants transcripts NOW before they will verify your app.
TMDSAS will ask you for them later (Aug or Sept) which will allow them to focus on more important paperwork right now, like getting your app checked and transmitted to schools!

And I suggest you polish off the TMDSAS first and submit it, instead of working on both apps at once.
Why? Early submission is more important for TX, and AMCAS is not going to transmit anybody's apps to schools until July 10th.
There are enough minor differences in the apps that you don't want to get confused.
The most I would do on AMCAS is request your transcripts and enter your recommenders so they can be notified, then save it and go back to it after your TMDSAS is submitted.
 
@wysdoc Great, thanks! I'll stick to how the course titles are written on my transcripts. I'm thankful to have gotten my transcripts in for AMCAS and will wait to send them for TMDSAS. Many thanks 😀
 
Hello @wysdoc! If we were a TA for multiple classes, should we list each of these separately (e.g., under employment) or group them all together? I ask because, in a similar vein, it seems that they prefer grouping leadership positions for one organization under one entry, so I was wondering if the same was true for teaching assistant positions. Thanks!
 
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Hello @wysdoc! If we were a TA for multiple classes, should we list each of these separately (e.g., under employment) or group them all together? I ask because, in a similar vein, it seems that they prefer grouping leadership positions for one organization under one entry, so I was wondering if the same was true for teaching assistant positions. Thanks!
On TMDSAS you can do it either way. If your TA jobs were quite different and you want enough space to describe them a bit and name the supervisor, split them up. This makes your start/end dates precise too.
If they were pretty similar, you can lump them together and be brief.
TMDSAS does not have a limit of how many activities you may list, just be sensible.
On AMCAS you are limited to 15 entries so if you had a lot, you would lump them
 
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Does anyone know when Texas schools are expected to start sending out interview invitations?
 
Is it normal that TMDSAS is still processing May 31? At this rate, June wont be transmitted till August. So the first batch of interviews will be going out to just like 10% of applicants?
 
Is it normal that TMDSAS is still processing May 31? At this rate, June wont be transmitted till August. So the first batch of interviews will be going out to just like 10% of applicants?
Processing right now is taking 3-4 weeks, but that time will drop down as the volume of new apps submitted begins to decrease.
The # of apps started (not everyone will ever complete their app, oddly enough) is well above last year at this time and a new record.
TMDSAS staff are working from home but they are keeping up quite well.
 
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