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Are any schools doing in-person interviews this year?
UT Tyler and Texas A&M ( for its EnMed only)Are any schools doing in-person interviews this year?
Sam Houston as well.UT Tyler and Texas A&M ( for its EnMed only)
Also I think UIWSOM?
I think so, but why can't you use your computer speakers? You do need to be in a quiet place without background chat or noise.weird question but, it's fine to use AirPods during the interview right? Like they're not going to think I'm getting listening to answers directly from my international spy colleague or something. Sorry, first virtual interview so I have no idea.
I work from home and I've taken meetings just using my computer speaker, according to my boss it echoes occasionally which makes it difficult to hear me so I usually take meetings using airpods.I think so, but why can't you use your computer speakers? You do need to be in a quiet place without background chat or noise.
If only we had some insight into the minds of adcoms. I get my mind all over the place trying to figure out what certain schools are looking for, but in the end, I think we’re all just playing a waiting game. Best of luck and congrats on what you’ve got so far. I’m sure the other will come before you know it.Not sure if this is the right forum, but I have interviews with Baylor/UTSW/UTMB this cycle. I was complete with most places early-mid July. LM 75, IS, ORM. Decent ECs, nothing super special. Anyway, I feel like I'm a long shot at Baylor/UTSW, decent shot at UTMB. But I'd really love more interviews with places like McGovern/Tech/TAMU/Long as I feel like I'd have a better shot at those institutions. Is there a reason why I have interviews with more "prestigious" places and not some of the others? Am I overthinking? Is it way too early to be concerned about this? Please tell me if I am being too neurotic. I would just love some input. Thanks
Those schools will have several more months of interviews, you’re doing greatNot sure if this is the right forum, but I have interviews with Baylor/UTSW/UTMB this cycle. I was complete with most places early-mid July. LM 75, IS, ORM. Decent ECs, nothing super special. Anyway, I feel like I'm a long shot at Baylor/UTSW, decent shot at UTMB. But I'd really love more interviews with places like McGovern/Tech/TAMU/Long as I feel like I'd have a better shot at those institutions. Is there a reason why I have interviews with more "prestigious" places and not some of the others? Am I overthinking? Is it way too early to be concerned about this? Please tell me if I am being too neurotic. I would just love some input. Thanks
You’re overthinking it. Med school applications are a waiting game. The process is still early, and you’re already doing better than ~90% of applicants at this point.Not sure if this is the right forum, but I have interviews with Baylor/UTSW/UTMB this cycle. I was complete with most places early-mid July. LM 75, IS, ORM. Decent ECs, nothing super special. Anyway, I feel like I'm a long shot at Baylor/UTSW, decent shot at UTMB. But I'd really love more interviews with places like McGovern/Tech/TAMU/Long as I feel like I'd have a better shot at those institutions. Is there a reason why I have interviews with more "prestigious" places and not some of the others? Am I overthinking? Is it way too early to be concerned about this? Please tell me if I am being too neurotic. I would just love some input. Thanks
i’m in the same situation as you. i’m sure the mid tier interviews will come in due time.Not sure if this is the right forum, but I have interviews with Baylor/UTSW/UTMB this cycle. I was complete with most places early-mid July. LM 75, IS, ORM. Decent ECs, nothing super special. Anyway, I feel like I'm a long shot at Baylor/UTSW, decent shot at UTMB. But I'd really love more interviews with places like McGovern/Tech/TAMU/Long as I feel like I'd have a better shot at those institutions. Is there a reason why I have interviews with more "prestigious" places and not some of the others? Am I overthinking? Is it way too early to be concerned about this? Please tell me if I am being too neurotic. I would just love some input. Thanks
If it makes you feel a little better I am in the exact same situation verbatim. (Same schools want to interview me, same stats IS ORM, and I was complete a little later than you.Not sure if this is the right forum, but I have interviews with Baylor/UTSW/UTMB this cycle. I was complete with most places early-mid July. LM 75, IS, ORM. Decent ECs, nothing super special. Anyway, I feel like I'm a long shot at Baylor/UTSW, decent shot at UTMB. But I'd really love more interviews with places like McGovern/Tech/TAMU/Long as I feel like I'd have a better shot at those institutions. Is there a reason why I have interviews with more "prestigious" places and not some of the others? Am I overthinking? Is it way too early to be concerned about this? Please tell me if I am being too neurotic. I would just love some input. Thanks
About 15% of Texans end up going OOS and 85% stay in the best state.Hey guys im planning to apply next cycle and was wondering what type of people usually apply OOS if from texas? Im URM and have good EC but would want to shoot for a top med school but based on stats that say the many dont leave texas is that because not many texans apply los ?
Did you do the homework I suggested with LMSA and SNMA yet?Hey guys im planning to apply next cycle and was wondering what type of people usually apply OOS if from texas? Im URM and have good EC but would want to shoot for a top med school but based on stats that say the many dont leave texas is that because not many texans apply los ?
It’s all a matter of what you are looking for in a med school. Are you applying this year?just curious, but how would y'all rank all of the md schools+tcom? (not sure if this is the right thread to put this in- if not just lmk)
You can fit in anywhere, if you want to. Just don't start every sentence in a conversation with "Well, in California, we..."Are there any OOS students currently at a Texas school in this thread (either undergrad or med school)? I would love to hear how the adjustment to Texas was for you in terms of culture, quality of life, climate, etc...
I am particularly worried about being an "outsider" trying to make friends with lifelong Texans (i.e., people tend to make friends who are similar to themselves/their identities). I felt it during my first interview as the only OOS interviewee in a group of 20 people. People would talk and make references to some aspect of a shared culture (one person went as far as saying, "you wouldn't get this being from the North and all."). I definitely felt excluded and I want to know if that is something I might have to endure throughout med school. Other than that, my TAMU interview was amazing and I would still rank them over my several top-50 interviews.
So I'm a little different since I wasn't raised in Texas, visited a bunch because I was born here but didn't really have any friends in Texas until I started attending university here. I have NEVER felt like an outsider, no one has ever made me feel excluded and honestly they are more interested to learn about my life more than anything. I didn't even know what Whataburger or Buckee's were when I started school and I never got any hate, just some people who were excited to show me what they were.Are there any OOS students currently at a Texas school in this thread (either undergrad or med school)? I would love to hear how the adjustment to Texas was for you in terms of culture, quality of life, climate, etc...
I am particularly worried about being an "outsider" trying to make friends with lifelong Texans (i.e., people tend to make friends who are similar to themselves/their identities). I felt it during my first interview as the only OOS interviewee in a group of 20 people. People would talk and make references to some aspect of a shared culture (one person went as far as saying, "you wouldn't get this being from the North and all."). I definitely felt excluded and I want to know if that is something I might have to endure throughout med school. Other than that, my TAMU interview was amazing and I would still rank them over my several top-50 interviews.
I wouldn’t say any of them are necessarily harsh to reapplicants (granted they want to see improvement in the last application).I have an interest in extending my app to TMDSAS this cycle (I know it's super late, I got to it after getting my AMCAS schools in). Just wondering, are Texas schools harsh to reapplicants? Are there any Texas schools that are less harsh to reapplicants?
I am a reapplicant and I have 4 II to TMDSAS this year!I have an interest in extending my app to TMDSAS this cycle (I know it's super late, I got to it after getting my AMCAS schools in). Just wondering, are Texas schools harsh to reapplicants? Are there any Texas schools that are less harsh to reapplicants?
I don't recommend starting a TMDSAS app this late, especially as an OOS applicant. Why not?I have an interest in extending my app to TMDSAS this cycle (I know it's super late, I got to it after getting my AMCAS schools in). Just wondering, are Texas schools harsh to reapplicants? Are there any Texas schools that are less harsh to reapplicants?
In the 29% and 38% figures from May and June, how many schools did those applicants who got Interview Invites apply for in Texas schools? And is this graph only from OOS applicant data?I don't recommend starting a TMDSAS app this late, especially as an OOS applicant. Why not?
1. TX schools take at most 10% OOS into each class.
2. TMDSAS app will take at least 3 weeks to be verified and sent to schools, and that's after you write your 2 new essays and cut your AMCAS activity descriptions down to 300 characters each.
3. The biggest reason is that most of the interviews are extended to those who submit their applications in May, June & July.
The graph below is from 2019, but it displays the facts in a way that's easy to understand. Read this graph as: 29% of the interviews go to those who submitted their TMDSAS primary in May, and so on. IF you can get it submitted in September, you have a 6-7% chance of an interview.
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In conclusion, @majorlazer4196, I recommend you see how it goes this cycle with your AMCAS and AACOMAS applications.
If you are unsuccessful this year, you could add TMDSAS next year, but submit in May or June.
This is total applicants. The data isn’t broken down into how many schoolsIn the 29% and 38% figures from May and June, how many schools did those applicants who got Interview Invites apply for in Texas schools? And is this graph only from OOS applicant data?
I regret not preparing better for TMDSAS. The additional required essay that TMDSAS had for their primary application caught me off guard. I was so focused on AMCAS that I didn't focus enough on Texas schools and I really liked the geographical area.I don't recommend starting a TMDSAS app this late, especially as an OOS applicant. Why not?
1. TX schools take at most 10% OOS into each class.
2. TMDSAS app will take at least 3 weeks to be verified and sent to schools, and that's after you write your 2 new essays and cut your AMCAS activity descriptions down to 300 characters each.
3. The biggest reason is that most of the interviews are extended to those who submit their applications in May, June & July.
The graph below is from 2019, but it displays the facts in a way that's easy to understand. Read this graph as: 29% of the interviews go to those who submitted their TMDSAS primary in May, and so on. IF you can get it submitted in September, you have a 6-7% chance of an interview.
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In conclusion, @majorlazer4196, I recommend you see how it goes this cycle with your AMCAS and AACOMAS applications.
If you are unsuccessful this year, you could add TMDSAS next year, but submit in May or June.
It's still difficult to get an acceptance as an OOS student given 90% of seats go to texas residents. You typically need a very high MCAT to make up for it. TCU is private so you have as good a shot as anyone else!I regret not preparing better for TMDSAS. The additional required essay that TMDSAS had for their primary application caught me off guard. I was so focused on AMCAS that I didn't focus enough on Texas schools and I really liked the geographical area.
Though I did apply to TCU, which was the only Texas school available on AMCAS. So I still have sorta 1 egg in the Texas basket.
Yeah, TCU's private status is helpful to eliminate in-state preference. But the drawback of TCU is the private school-level tuition figure, $65k+ a year.It's still difficult to get an acceptance as an OOS student given 90% of seats go to texas residents. You typically need a very high MCAT to make up for it. TCU is private so you have as good a shot as anyone else!
I don't recommend starting a TMDSAS app this late, especially as an OOS applicant. Why not?
1. TX schools take at most 10% OOS into each class.
2. TMDSAS app will take at least 3 weeks to be verified and sent to schools, and that's after you write your 2 new essays and cut your AMCAS activity descriptions down to 300 characters each.
3. The biggest reason is that most of the interviews are extended to those who submit their applications in May, June & July.
The graph below is from 2019, but it displays the facts in a way that's easy to understand. Read this graph as: 29% of the interviews go to those who submitted their TMDSAS primary in May, and so on. IF you can get it submitted in September, you have a 6-7% chance of an interview.
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In conclusion, @majorlazer4196, I recommend you see how it goes this cycle with your AMCAS and AACOMAS applications.
If you are unsuccessful this year, you could add TMDSAS next year, but submit in May or June.
It's data from TMDSAS.What's the source of the data? TMDSAS or from some self-reported site?
One of my science classes was converted to non-science on TMDSAS too. When I asked my advisor about it, they told me to leave it because TMDSAS is very strict on what they allow to be classified as science, unless there's a clear mistake (i.e. OCHEM II has been classified as non-science). My guess is that if they changed it for you they would have to change it for everyone else they put it as non-science for. They probably don't want to do that. Anything that is social or behavioral science related, they'll reject. Mine wasn't even that and it got rejected. There was a lot of writing in the class, so they didn't consider it science and put it as English. I feel you.My TMDSAS sGPA is significantly lower than my AMCAS sGPA, by about .25. Should I communicate this to the schools somehow? TMDSAS denied every single appeal I gave them even when the syllabi showed that xyz class was biology/chem based.
It’s SO frustrating- my sGPA in TMDSAS is just barely below a 3.0 because some of my GPA recovery classes weren’t counted. One school looked past it but I doubt many others will.One of my science classes was converted to non-science on TMDSAS too. When I asked my advisor about it, they told me to leave it because TMDSAS is very strict on what they allow to be classified as science, unless there's a clear mistake (i.e. OCHEM II has been classified as non-science). My guess is that if they changed it for you they would have to change it for everyone else they put it as non-science for. They probably don't want to do that. Anything that is social or behavioral science related, they'll reject. Mine wasn't even that and it got rejected. There was a lot of writing in the class, so they didn't consider it science and put it as English. I feel you.
I don't know if TMDSAS schools will consider your AMCAS GPA unfortunately as they are calculated differently too (no +/- system on TMDSAS), but mine are different too if it makes you feel better. I think many people are in the same boat where AMCAS is higher.
Good question - I don't know the answer, but I don't think so.Does TMDSAS notify AMCAS when an applicant applies to Texas schools? Just wondering if other schools within AMCAS will know an applicant has applied to schools in the TMDSAS system or not.
It's data from TMDSAS.
TMDSAS started emphasizing earlier submission in 2017 or so, and produced the data charts to show applicants why it matters.
Reading these charts has driven earlier submission, so that recent years show an even more marked difference.
The 2019 chart I shared above is the last one I've seen produced by TMDSAS on this particular topic.
Are the numbers in late months so low because this emphasis was effective, and there are very few submitting a primary in September & October? Or is it because most schools are mostly finished sending out interview invitations by then?
The graphs show just numbers, not motives 🙂
I attached the graphs from 2016 and 2017 for anyone who's interested. Notice that the deadline for submission used to be October 1 and not November 1 as it is now.
Submission date is submission of your primary app to TMDSAS. You have more time to get your other supporting items in.Wow. Thank you. Does Submission Date equal to when everything is completed including LORs, secondaries, transcripts and such?
That's right. Many of the TMDSAS schools will send out pre-match offers on October 15th, some wait until November.So this cycle is the first time I've had an interview prior to prematch. In order to curb my expectations, when is the time I can hear back? I know prematch begins October 15th but does that mean I will not hear anything until, at least, that day?
Thank you. I submitted early, but school sent out committee letter really late - like in August late. So I got IIs from very low-ranking schools compared to my stats and ECs. Luckily I got As for all the IIs I had last cycle and am glad to be where I am.Submission date is submission of your primary app to TMDSAS. You have more time to get your other supporting items in.
And correct me if I’m wrong, OOS applicants do not create a rank list nor do we “pre-match.” OOS are simply offered an acceptance starting October 15th?That's right. Many of the TMDSAS schools will send out pre-match offers on October 15th, some wait until November.
Pre-Match offers can go out any time between October 15, 2022 and January 29, 2023.
McGovern and especially Long send out very few pre-match offers.
That’s right, OOS applicants are eligible for admissions offers beginning October 15.And correct me if I’m wrong, OOS applicants do not create a rank list nor do we “pre-match.” OOS are simply offered an acceptance starting October 15th?
I wish the TMDSAS handbook was more fleshed out for OOS scenarios.
So this cycle is the first time I've had an interview prior to prematch. In order to curb my expectations, when is the time I can hear back? I know prematch begins October 15th but does that mean I will not hear anything until, at least, that day?
I’d imagine, but there might be 1 or 2 schools that will send them on SaturdayRandom question but since Oct. 15th is a Saturday, will schools wait till the 17th to start announcing prematches?
It’s a fine art knowing how to manage the offers. Some people will get another acceptance they prefer over TCOM and then TCOM will move on to others they have on the WL.Can someone explain how TCOM offers so many acceptances and what that means? For Fall 2019, 460 acceptances were apparently offered for an entering class size of 230. Does this mean they had to extend all those offers upfront to approximate their target class size? Or is that how far in their waitlist they had to go before they got 230 individuals to matriculate? And do the other TMDSAS schools use a similar method to fill their classes? I read something somewhere about TAMU over-accepting at some point and I guess that's got me a little confused.
TCOM Admissions Statistics
TCOM Comparisons to American Association of Colleges of Osteopathic Medicine (AACOM) Member School Averages.www.unthsc.edu