Okami WW Game Thread

[WildZoo]

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Well, when you chop the sentence up to change its meaning like that, yeah. Idk how I feel about that. Seems too obvious to do intentionally but I still find it hard not to be sus of posts that seem to be misrepresenting someone else’s words.

How did I change the meaning? I was specifically pointing out that she suggested that voting someone because they're hard to read is okay, and then later said that voting someone you find hard to read is a salt vote. I only chopped it to be clear about which part of the sentence I was referring to. I don't see how I changed the meaning of what she was saying at all.

 

[WildZoo]

Like I understand now Cray was referring to basing it on one game, because she clarified, but she admitted herself that wasn't clear in the first post (since she said past games plural), so I don't see how I was misrepresenting what she said.

 

[samac]

Fluff definitely meets my definition of LHF.

I don't bother to put votes on people that there is too much traction against voting any more these days.

Fluff isn’t the definition of LHF. She’s been misyeeted once. But that doesn’t matter much

Mid July

Interesting. I’m taking note of this because my first wolf game I fabricated salt towards AM for being at each other’s throats in the last game is played a long time prior to get a vote on the board.

My feelings on samac have changed but I haven't gotten around to doing anything about it

You do realize that between posts I'm responsible for another being's corporeal existence, right?

Mainly I’ve been more involved with fighting with you than anything else so I haven't had a chance to decide where to vote next

What’s changed? I’ve actually not been around much, a lot less than my usual village meta. Is it the drink pics? That’s my best pocketing technique.

The focus is because you and Dubz basically attacked me for saying I didn't see the point of/like the votes on True.

Which, I don't know the Aff of the 3 of you. Sure, TN could be a wolf. But it also occurred to me you and Dubz could be wolfing. The two of you on the same vote made me feel uncomfortable.

I walked that back a bit in light of Dubz' points, I no longer see the issue with her vote on True on terms of her explained rationale, however I agree with Visc it felt like she twisted my words. And it felt like you did as well. And if I wanted to decide your vote on True means little more than something that is part of a village agenda, being "misread" by you now is not really helping my read of you.

Would you and Dubz so boldly coordinate on True like this if you were wolfing together?

Well, why the hell not?

Ya know what would be a fun pack? AM, Dubz and me

Could we not veer into personal attacks? I'm trying to evaluate this game and I can't do it by idling sitting until yeet close. I need interactions and I'll get them wherever I can.

God I want to village read you but I’m scared of your pockets this early.

 

[WildZoo]

NO SPOILERS CAUSE THEN YOU ALL DONT READ EM

 

[genny]

Spoiler

i still don't read them, even without spoilers

 

[Animal Midwife]

Spoiler

i still don't read them, even without spoilers

Did you read this thread yet?

 

[genny]

Did you read this thread yet?

yes

 

[WildZoo]

The focus is because you and Dubz basically attacked me for saying I didn't see the point of/like the votes on True.

Which, I don't know the Aff of the 3 of you. Sure, TN could be a wolf. But it also occurred to me you and Dubz could be wolfing. The two of you on the same vote made me feel uncomfortable.

I walked that back a bit in light of Dubz' points, I no longer see the issue with her vote on True on terms of her explained rationale, however I agree with Visc it felt like she twisted my words. And it felt like you did as well. And if I wanted to decide your vote on True means little more than something that is part of a village agenda, being "misread" by you now is not really helping my read of you.

Would you and Dubz so boldly coordinate on True like this if you were wolfing together?

Well, why the hell not?

I mean, I actually don't think I would bother voting for True early if I were wolfing. I would have no reason to. He's a good pocket pal.

But besides that I don't feel like I attacked you at all? I was questioning why you were assuming what my vote meant and explained why it was there. I pointed out what felt like inconsistencies in what you were saying about d1 vote behavior.

I still don't understand what either you or Vis are saying I twisted. You even said in response you might not have been clear in the post I was questioning. Why now are you implying I maliciously misrepresented you instead of it just being a communication error?

 

[Crayola227]

Fluff isn’t the definition of LHF. She’s been misyeeted once. But that doesn’t matter much

Interesting. I’m taking note of this because my first wolf game I fabricated salt towards AM for being at each other’s throats in the last game is played a long time prior to get a vote on the board.

What’s changed? I’ve actually not been around much, a lot less than my usual village meta. Is it the drink pics? That’s my best pocketing technique.

Ya know what would be a fun pack? AM, Dubz and me

God I want to village read you but I’m scared of your pockets this early.

I don't know. Tone reads.

I've been ignoring them lately despite them being pretty accurate, because I have had too many axes to grind.

My definition of LHF may not match up with past games played I had no part in. I can only go by what I know and what I feel.

 

[Animal Midwife]

yes

Still feeling the same way about Cray?

 

[WildZoo]

Ya know what would be a fun pack? AM, Dubz and me

Wow it's a little early to be outting us like this, samac

 

[Crayola227]

I'm pocketed by Samac's hmms.

#### unyeet Samac ####

Also for the record the way to pocket this girl's heart is to seem like you are considering what I am saying.

 

[WildZoo]

I'm pocketed by Samac's hmms.

#### unyeet Samac ####

Also for the record the way to pocket this girl's heart is to seem like you are considering what I am saying.

Oh she did that to me once too but it was like...every post of mine in the thread

 

[Crayola227]

Wow it's a little early to be outting us like this, samac

As a pack it would seem too good to be true, but statistics means I cannot fully discount the possibility without further data points.

 

[WildZoo]

Me: "What the heck, where is PSV, she's barely posted at all"

...

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Me: "What the heck, where is PSV, she's barely posted at all"

...

Lurking...

 

[genny]

Still feeling the same way about Cray?

yes.

 

[Animal Midwife]

yes.

What's your read on Vis?

 

[genny]

What's your read on Vis?

neutral at best.

 

[Crayola227]

Pretty sure we’re tied, no?

Also Dubz’s salt vote doesn’t count because it’s not real.

Both Zuri and your votes seem to be real. So technically I’m in the lead.

Numbers is villains

Here Zenge mentioned thinking Dubz vote was salt. Just noting the posts that influenced my thinking

 

[Crayola227]

There's no one big red flag, just some combination of this stuff:


feels a little... off

Agree

I'm agreeing with TN more this game I think. Less wolf stink so far. Keep in mind this is based on very little.

 

[Crayola227]

Spoiler

I'm waiting for Cray to call out the emojis

Cray apparently missed many posts and is going back to get caught up

But funnily enough I did make a comment about emojis despite not seeing this post. Glad to see that I don't fail to be predictable on some fronts

 

[Crayola227]

😛

The crazy aunt tongue of sus

Credit goes to @PippyPony for that one. That was a game she was 3P, right?

 

[Crayola227]

inb4 Dubz voice

Yeet Zenge

Inb4

inb4

 

[Viscernable]

Reads on anyone else?

I’ve liked zuri’s posts. Z’s ~tone~ has bugged me a couple of posts.

 

[Crayola227]

I don't think either of these specifics are really relevant - I was just giving an example. It's not about the rest of the context. It's that, if you're looking to gauge a reaction, saying "I am looking to gauge a reaction" inherently changes that reaction. That's just science.

Oh the science

 

[Crayola227]

Oh I see, you don't think I'm smart enough to know that 😔

Ugh a pity inducing post AND pity inducing emoji. Double sus.

 

[Crayola227]

Taking some notes about your reaction, too

Ugh angelic emoji, super sus

 

[Crayola227]

W

I never characterized my vote as a salt vote.

Wait a minute, it was Zenge who did. But then you didn't seem to react to his doing it, only when I did and criticized you for it.

So, does this mean Zenge and TN are wolfing together? Or maybe WZ and Zenge, hence why she didn't call zenge out for it? And this other banter between them is just wolf theatre.

Or is Zenge subtly shading WZ and it's actually w/v?

Who here claims to read Zenge well?

Also where is fluff? Fluff feels lurky rn

 

[Crayola227]

Still trying to figure out where I said I was yeeting True for salt, or why my vote there was any less valid than AM's

Can you explain why when Zenge said your vote for True was salt, that you didn't step in to correct? Is this what you are claiming is part of a reaction test?

 

[Viscernable]

How did I change the meaning? I was specifically pointing out that she suggested that voting someone because they're hard to read is okay, and then later said that voting someone you find hard to read is a salt vote. I only chopped it to be clear about which part of the sentence I was referring to. I don't see how I changed the meaning of what she was saying at all.

The whole sentence was

Maybe I'm misusing the term, but I consider votes for players based on past games with no other explanation or for reasons of personally finding them hard to read, a "salt" vote of some type.

 

[Viscernable]

So, does this mean Zenge and TN are wolfing together?

I don’t see the connection, can you explain?

 

[WildZoo]

The whole sentence was

Yes, I know what the whole sentence was. I interpreted it as
"Votes for players based on past games with no other reason"
Or
"Votes for players for reasons of personally finding them hard to read"

That may not have been how Cray intended it to be read but that is how I read it because of how the sentence was constructed. Hence I responded to the part I took issue with.

 

[Viscernable]

Wait a minute, it was Zenge who did.

Also I missed this, where did he say that?

 

[Viscernable]

Yes, I know what the whole sentence was. I interpreted it as
"Votes for players based on past games with no other reason"
Or
"Votes for players for reasons of personally finding them hard to read"

That may not have been how Cray intended it to be read but that is how I read it because of how the sentence was constructed. Hence I responded to the part I took issue with.

Ahh okay to me it was clear what she meant because of the comma placement, but I see the ambiguity

 

[Crayola227]

I like how when Dubz asked the same question you answered it without issue, but when I asked you seem baffled by it.

Because yes, out of the gate means.... out of the gate. If someone posts it's possible to lean any given single post wolfy or towny and then place a vote for that reason. If they don't post, you can still place a vote.

Tips for getting the game started without defaulting to salt votes include the Lupin's rule of 5, Cray's rule of emojis, Chaos' theory of wolfy lack of humor, accusations of lurking/ghosting, the list goes on.

 

[Crayola227]

Pretty sure we’re tied, no?

Also Dubz’s salt vote doesn’t count because it’s not real.

Both Zuri and your votes seem to be real. So technically I’m in the lead.

Numbers is villains

This post

 

[WildZoo]

Can you explain why when Zenge said your vote for True was salt, that you didn't step in to correct? Is this what you are claiming is part of a reaction test?

My "How dare you" was both tongue in cheek and intended to be a correction. But yes I do sometimes find it interesting to be a bit vague about my initial votes.

 

[justafluff]

You don't think someone's initial reaction to something would be more pure than their later reaction after more context has been given?

If I had said "I'm looking to see how Zenge reacts" when I voted for you last game, you don't think you would have reacted differently?

I mean yes they know they're being scrutinized, but I think saying specifically that you're voting for a reaction changes the interaction going forward.

This is a good point but honestly, you all assume wolf!Zenge will react differently to a couple votes in the beginning of the game than village!Zenge

 

[Animal Midwife]

This is a good point but honestly, you all assume wolf!Zenge will react differently to a couple votes in the beginning of the game than village!Zenge

Do you feel this to be the case?

 

[WildZoo]

This is a good point but honestly, you all assume wolf!Zenge will react differently to a couple votes in the beginning of the game than village!Zenge

Well, wolf!Zenge is rather twitchy

 

[Crayola227]

I don’t see the connection, can you explain?

So, it has to do with asking the question, if saying the vote was salt wasn't true, under what conditions does that make sense.

I've explored Dubz is wolfy, it was a salt vote, but now she wants to shade me for that interpretation. But let's say she is village and this was a misunderstanding and it was misconstrued. I know I wasn't trying to misconstrue it. So what about Z?

Say Z is wolf and misconstruing Dubz' vote. Why? Makes sense perhaps they both wolves and that's why she didn't call out his interpretation but she did mine, and he wasn't trying to misconstrue her vote, but she decided for strat reasons not to call him out but she called me out to shade me.

OR

Because maybe WZ is village, and if TN and Z be wolfing together, then Z would have a motive of playing off WZ's vote, like, trying to imply to the class that we shouldn't take it too seriously. But what motive would a wolf Z have for misrepresenting WZ's village vote on TN if TN is village? More compelling if they be wolfing together.

Just my thought process, I'm not wedded to any of it as it could just be a bunch of misunderstandings. But we have to consider where village misunderstandings end and wolfy twisting begins.

 

[Crayola227]

My "How dare you" was both tongue in cheek and intended to be a correction. But yes I do sometimes find it interesting to be a bit vague about my initial votes.

I thought it was joking so I didn't see it as you actually disagreeing that it was salt.

Carry on peeps.

 

[Zenge142]

Also for the record the way to pocket this girl's heart is to seem like you are considering what I am saying.

 

[samac]

I don't know. Tone reads.

I've been ignoring them lately despite them being pretty accurate, because I have had too many axes to grind.

My definition of LHF may not match up with past games played I had no part in. I can only go by what I know and what I feel.

So is someone LHF if they get caught wolfing early?

Wow it's a little early to be outting us like this, samac

Oh my bad. I’ll wait until tomorrow.

I'm pocketed by Samac's hmms.

#### unyeet Samac ####

Also for the record the way to pocket this girl's heart is to seem like you are considering what I am saying.

Oh huh

Oh she did that to me once too but it was like...every post of mine in the thread

*scribbles furiously in notes to hmm everything from everyone all the time*

Tho dubz I usually like to snap read you village.
Why I no do that this game?
Be more village-y so we can blocc pls

 

[samac]

We know now
Forever

 

[Zenge142]

I’ve liked zuri’s posts. Z’s ~tone~ has bugged me a couple of posts.

This seems like it’s a frequent habit of yours to get sketched out by village!Zenge D1

 

[Zenge142]

Ugh angelic emoji, super sus

Can we get a post where you organize all the emojis from most sus to least sus?

 

[samac]

I kinda always wanna ready cray wolfy
Particularly when she votes me
but She’s feeling villagey RN tbh

 

[WildZoo]

Tho dubz I usually like to snap read you village.
Why I no do that this game?

Idk maybe you need to try harder??