Once Upon A Time WW Game Thread

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DVMDream said:
I did not ask that pairs be forced into the open.

I simply looked at WS' defense from last night when she was up for lynch: It consisted of: "Someone can vouch for me." and "I don't want them to vouch for me though." Followed by stating that her role isn't all that important. I can understand, to an extent, the not wanting the person to vouch, but if that is going to be the case, you need a different defense then, I do not trust people on just what they say. Anyone can say, "Well, someone can vouch for me, but I don't want them to reveal themselves." Seriously... it isn't a defense at all.

It has nothing to do with her being WS, I would have said the same thing to anyone who did this or came up with this type of defense (or lack of defense, IMO). I have played in games with WS before where we were having to PM with each other and work together, so yes, I can work with her and be unbiased, but the wishy-washy defense last night is odd to me and that is the reason for my vote.
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This. That is how I felt about the defense yesterday
 
Frozenshades said:
Is 10,000 pennies acceptable?
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I read that as something COMPLETELY different 😱:naughty:

Honestly, I agree with DVMD regarding WS. WS said we don't want to lynch her (which is commonly used to stress that the person has a relatively important role) but then said she doesn't have an important role. Her only defense is her pair, but if her role isn't important and she were truly concerned about protecting her pair but not dying, she could have role revealed (I've done so in much more dire situations, haha). But if she's truly in a pair, I think it's best to leave her for a couple of rounds and revisit later.

So I'm going to lynch Jam because she's a tricksy wolf. I understand why people are posting that they're busy, but I don't think that clears anyone from suspicion.
 
StartingoverVet said:
Did anyone get a poison apple last night? I was thinking that the apple was actually a wolf attempt on night one, but I survived ( I think I know why but prefer to keep that a secret).

If no one got an apple then I assume nstarz was killed with it...if someone did then my theory is disproven.
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Nstarz told me via PM that they had the apple yesterday
 
StartingoverVet said:
I don't think devyn or DVmd can be impartial when it comes to WS. Not sure if we want to force every pair into the open....
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I call BS....

If WS had given a proper defense I would have been more than open to unlynching her.... and not lynching her again today.... but the whole saying someone can vouch for you - feck anyone can say that.... without that person ever having to come forward.... that is in essence vouching for yourself..... the person who can vouch for her could have easily come forward originally said "do not lynch WS" and left it at that... no need to role reveal or anything, but instead WS made sure that we now know whoever she is connected to has an important role whilst she has a ****e one... I just don't understand her logic....

sorry I have unlynched her in past games where she has given me a proper defense... this is not a proper defense...
 
DVMDream said:
Open question to all:

Tamara, wolf or no?
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I think yes, definitely wolf. SPOILERS: In the show she is the fiancee of a character that is semi important. I think he is important, but people might disagree. BAD THINGS TAMARA DOES: She shoots said fiancee and opens a portal to try and transport/kill Emma and him. She is trying to rid the world of magic as it does not belong in this realm. She KIDNAPS Henry! All things lead me to think WOLF
 
DVMDream said:
Open question to all:

Tamara, wolf or no?
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I think she's a Wolf.

In the show, she's deceptive, calculating and wants magic for her own personal gain at any cost. She's not afraid to kill people to get what she wants either.

And she's got LAZAH-BEAMS :poke:
 
I mean honestly, there is no way Tamara could NOT be a wolf in my eyes. Torture, killing, and all around bad news.
 
thedrjojo said:
I dunno what to make of it, but i'm willing to wait for time to figure it out and save a useful villager, when killing a wolf wouldn't end the game now...
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😕

Seriously... you have watched the show, correct? What does your GUT say.

I know what the hearsay is by the way. Remember... wolves can have that ability too. Also, from what I have read and what I have been told about Tamara (I don't see how she would have that ability AND it be benefiting villagers, but stranger things have happened).
 
thedrjojo said:
I dunno what to make of it, but i'm willing to wait for time to figure it out and save a useful villager, when killing a wolf wouldn't end the game now...
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This reasoning makes no sense to me.....

a wolf lynch is a wolf lynch..... doesn't matter what point in the game it happens... it is always good... it reduces their numbers....


I don't know the character, haven't gotten to the point where she makes it into the show, but if most people agree that she is not a good person and would be a wolf... then I woud think she would be a good person to lynch rather than a random lynch
 
thedrjojo said:
I dunno what to make of it, but i'm willing to wait for time to figure it out and save a useful villager, when killing a wolf wouldn't end the game now...
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How could Tamara be a villager? She is against ALL of Storybrooke. She wants to DESTROY it all. Spoilers: SHE SHOOTS HER FIANCEE AND TRIES TO KILL EMMMA! How does that equal villager? Spoilers: The season finale is she and Greg kidnap Henry and bring him to Neverland That is all no bueno!
 
devyn said:
This reasoning makes no sense to me.....

a wolf lynch is a wolf lynch..... doesn't matter what point in the game it happens... it is always good... it reduces their numbers....


I don't know the character, haven't gotten to the point where she makes it into the show, but if most people agree that she is not a good person and would be a wolf... then I woud think she would be a good person to lynch rather than a random lynch
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I'd rather kill a random villager than someone who is either a powerful villager or a wolf. The person playing tamara came to me, I didn't go to them. Yes, a wolf can do that, but so can villagers with bad sounding roles. The information given though was 100% correct. I was willing to let it go until I could find out more information...
 
I agree with Wld on this, I dont see how Tamara or Greg could be anything but wolves.
 
bbeventer said:
I agree with Wld on this, I dont see how Tamara or Greg could be anything but wolves.
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yeah tamara and greg are totally against the people in storyville.

Gotta lynch them.

The only way they aren't wolves is if you have to wait a few days and then they turn into wolves. Either way....

It makes no sense they could be villagers or even neutral in this game.
 
thedrjojo said:
I'd rather kill a random villager than someone who is either a powerful villager or a wolf. The person playing tamara came to me, I didn't go to them. Yes, a wolf can do that, but so can villagers with bad sounding roles. The information given though was 100% correct. I was willing to let it go until I could find out more information...
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This is kind of the point I was trying to make... does it really make any sense for Tamara to be a "powerful villager"??? Really? Being honest with yourself... does it?

Could she be a powerful wolf?

Think about it.
 
StartingoverVet said:
yeah tamara and greg are totally against the people in storyville.

Gotta lynch them.

The only way they aren't wolves is if you have to wait a few days and then they turn into wolves. Either way....

It makes no sense they could be villagers or even neutral in this game.
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Thank you! I can see no way they can be villagers. They were strictly introduced to do evil. Doing evil= not villager
 
I think I have this figured out..

Hey JOJO? Are you Greg?

I think the mods made Greg and Tamara a pair, but ONLY Tamara is a wolf.

See, I did something similar in Dexter, where of the 2 kids, 1 was convertible and 1 wasn't hoping that the one converted would trick the other. And that happened. And it HAPPENED TO ESCALLA our mod. She was the unconvertible one who stuck up for Dyachei who was converted. I thought about this as a role as well.....

So Greg is told he is a villager, told he is a pair with Tamara,and she has kick-*ss powers. Of course he would defend her, no?

And Greg is more a pawn on the show. he is anti-regina more than anti-town, he has been manipulated by whoever they work for.

Tamara is the more pure evil one.

Jojo... give up your counterpart if you are greg.... I could believe you are innocent, but not tamara.

Anyway... that is my theory.
 
thedrjojo said:
Of course I am... I'm standing up for Tamara right now... I'm not Tamara, or a wolf...
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So you don't think that someone defending an evil character in the series is suspicious. :eyebrow: I just don't see how Tamara could be a character on the good side. Please explain to the group what good you think Tamara could do?
 
StartingoverVet said:
I think I have this figured out..

Hey JOJO? Are you Greg?

I think the mods made Greg and Tamara a pair, but ONLY Tamara is a wolf.

See, I did something similar in Dexter, where of the 2 kids, 1 was convertible and 1 wasn't hoping that the one converted would trick the other. And that happened. And it HAPPENED TO ESCALLA our mod. She was the unconvertible one who stuck up for Dyachei who was converted. I thought about this as a role as well.....

So Greg is told he is a villager, told he is a pair with Tamara,and she has kick-*ss powers. Of course he would defend her, no?

And Greg is more a pawn on the show. he is anti-regina more than anti-town, he has been manipulated by whoever they work for.

Tamara is the more pure evil one.

Jojo... give up your counterpart if you are greg.... I could believe you are innocent, but not tamara.

Anyway... that is my theory.
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I'm not Greg...
 
StartingoverVet said:

Lynch FFM

Tamara has to be a wolf.
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But are we sure FFM is Tamara, is the question.

Jojo said mentioned he had not found his pair as of the first night (I believe). So IF rojo is Greg, either he found her last night or it was pure luck that they connected through group PM (if FFM is Tamara).
 
StartingoverVet said:
I think I have this figured out..

Hey JOJO? Are you Greg?

I think the mods made Greg and Tamara a pair, but ONLY Tamara is a wolf.

See, I did something similar in Dexter, where of the 2 kids, 1 was convertible and 1 wasn't hoping that the one converted would trick the other. And that happened. And it HAPPENED TO ESCALLA our mod. She was the unconvertible one who stuck up for Dyachei who was converted. I thought about this as a role as well.....

So Greg is told he is a villager, told he is a pair with Tamara,and she has kick-*ss powers. Of course he would defend her, no?

And Greg is more a pawn on the show. he is anti-regina more than anti-town, he has been manipulated by whoever they work for.

Tamara is the more pure evil one.

Jojo... give up your counterpart if you are greg.... I could believe you are innocent, but not tamara.

Anyway... that is my theory.
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I think your reasoning is sound. Poor Greg just wants to find his dad, and kill Regina.

Lynch FFM
 
that redhead said:
But are we sure FFM is Tamara, is the question.

Jojo said mentioned he had not found his pair as of the first night (I believe). So IF rojo is Greg, either he found her last night or it was pure luck that they connected through group PM (if FFM is Tamara).
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wait i missed this, so how do we know that ffm is tamara?
 
I completely agree there is NO way tamara isn't a wolf.
lynch FFM
 
that redhead said:
So you don't think that someone defending an evil character in the series is suspicious. :eyebrow: I just don't see how Tamara could be a character on the good side. Please explain to the group what good you think Tamara could do?
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FFM pm'd me MY role, introduced himself as Tamara, and explained that they sound fishy but are not a wolf. Now, there are only a few ways he came across that information. If he was a wolf, then they already know my role. If he isn't a wolf, then we just outted a seer.
 
I think I'm gonna go with lynch FFM. Never got far enough in the show to be introduced to Tamara's character so I'm trusting the opinions of others here but there are enough people screaming that Tamara is evil and thought to be a wolf so I'll trust those people.

Also suspicious of DrJojo who would rather kill a random villager than a wolf..hmm..
 
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