Once Upon A Time WW Game Thread

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wait i missed this, so how do we know that ffm is tamara?

EC said FFM was Tamara. Don't know where she got that info though..

 

[DVMDream]

But are we sure FFM is Tamara, is the question.

Jojo said mentioned he had not found his pair as of the first night (I believe). So IF rojo is Greg, either he found her last night or it was pure luck that they connected through group PM (if FFM is Tamara).

I was told from someone completely different that FFM is claiming to be Tamara. Hence, why I asked on the thread about Tamara and opinions on if she would/would not be a wolf. I am only on episode 5 of season 2.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

Yeah, I am Tamara. I am not a wolf. I have not found Owen/Greg yet. I am helpful to the villagers.

At least I am used to DVMD getting me killed when I am a villager.

 

[that redhead]

FFM pm'd me MY role, introduced himself as Tamara, and explained that they sound fishy but are not a wolf. Now, there are only a few ways he came across that information. If he was a wolf, then they already know my role. If he isn't a wolf, then we just outted a seer.

If it were another character, I might go with it. But as it is, Tamara seems like a strongly wolfy character in this series and I don't think it's worth risking her being a wolf (even if she were to have seering abilities).

Unlynch Jam
Lynch FFM

 

[hedgiehog]

Tamara has no redeeming qualities on the show. I truly doubt she could be a villager in this game.

Lynch FFM

 

[StartingoverVet]

The only way FFM could be Tamara and not a wolf is
1 - Just wasn't told he is a wolf, but he is.

2 - There is some completely messed up game mechanic. Outside of Cora, Tamara is the only 100% sure wolf I could think of.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

I was told from someone completely different that FFM is claiming to be Tamara. Hence, why I asked on the thread about Tamara and opinions on if she would/would not be a wolf. I am only on episode 5 of season 2.

jojo is the only one I told I was Tamara, prior to you asking about Tamara. When did that person say I claimed to be Tamara?

 

[hedgiehog]

I think Hedgie said she was only given one name.

I really think that it's because my character isn't super important in Storybrooke. In Fairytale land he has an arc in one of the episodes but in real world he's only talked about by other people.

 

[wldlfstdnt]

unlynch cuit, lynch FFM I cannot see how Tamara could not be a wolf in this game. She is evil in the show. No redeeming qualities at all. Her whole thing is she wants to destroy Storybrooke and magic.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

The only way FFM could be Tamara and not a wolf is
1 - Just wasn't told he is a wolf, but he is.

2 - There is some completely messed up game mechanic. Outside of Cora, Tamara is the only 100% sure wolf I could think of.

Yes, after this, we will need to refer to getting "Sgt Hulka-ed" as getting "Tamara-ed". I thought it was very SOV-esque.

What games have there been people who are wolves who do not know it, and are not linked with anyone from the get go, and cannot do any kills?

 

[556535]

Are there any other villagers out there who were only given 1 name, and no one to look for?

If no one steps up lynch FantasyFlyer

My character has his fairytale name and not his Storybrooke name. Of course that could mean nothing in relation to the curse being active or not.

Yeah, this was when we were trying to figure out whether everyone or only some people had both their Storybrooke and their Fairytale characters. Apparently some people's roles DO have both in the show but were only given one for this game.

 

[dyachei]

lynch ffm

 

[Minnerbelle]

FFM pm'd me MY role, introduced himself as Tamara, and explained that they sound fishy but are not a wolf. Now, there are only a few ways he came across that information. If he was a wolf, then they already know my role. If he isn't a wolf, then we just outted a seer.

That's weird. Wolves know who the villagers are just from the virtue of knowing who all the wolves are, but they usually don't know the roles of the other villagers. I think a wolf seer is more likely...

If Tamara is as evil a person as everyone says she is, then why would a seer drop that info onto thedrjojo. Why not just say s/he is the seer, and s/he now trusts you because you came back a villager?

Something's fishy. unlynch FF, lynch FFM

 

[Flim Flam Man]

That's weird. Wolves know who the villagers are just from the virtue of knowing who all the wolves are, but they usually don't know the roles of the other villagers. I think a wolf seer is more likely...

If Tamara is as evil a person as everyone says she is, then why would a seer drop that info onto thedrjojo. Why not just say s/he is the seer, and s/he now trusts you because you came back a villager?

Something's fishy. unlynch FF, lynch FFM

Yeah, it's fishy because I am a villager.

 

[Escalla]

Current lynch tally:
WS 1 - devyn
Jam 1 - Lupin
cuit 0
FFM 11 - EC, SOV, bbeventer, swings, allie, TRH, hedgie, wld, dyachei, Minnerbelle
FantasyFlyer 0

Waffles: 5

Looking for 17 more votes.

 

[Minnerbelle]

Yeah, this was when we were trying to figure out whether everyone or only some people had both their Storybrooke and their Fairytale characters. Apparently some people's roles DO have both in the show but were only given one for this game.

yeah... but are there any other villagers that are not looking for someone?

 

[hedgiehog]

In the show Tamara knew the identity of her fiancee before she technically met him. She set him up to meet her and fall in love with her because he is magical and she wants to eradicate it. It's possible that's how FFM knew rojo's identity. Tamara is also working for headquarters in the show and it's possible they have info on magical beings. HQ could be like a wolf seer.

 

[wolfspeaker]

Someone attacked me last night. 👎
No PMing today and no voting. 🙁

 

[AlorsOnDanse]

This is so confusing. I would have though Tamara was 100% wolf, but now I have some doubts. For now I will lynch FFM. Also not sure if this helps, but I received the poison apple the first day. I was told I could eat this delicious looking apple or feed it to someone else. Since the apple makes people fall asleep under a spell in the show I thought it would be interesting to try it on someone and see if different people reacted differently. It wasn't an attack on SOV just a random pick.

 

[AlorsOnDanse]

This is so confusing. I would have though Tamara was 100% wolf, but now I have some doubts. For now I will lynch FFM. Also not sure if this helps, but I received the poison apple the first day. I was told I could eat this delicious looking apple or feed it to someone else. Since the apple makes people fall asleep under a spell in the show I thought it would be interesting to try it on someone and see if different people reacted differently. It wasn't an attack on SOV just a random pick.

ooops lynch FFM

 

[AlorsOnDanse]

Someone attacked me last night. 👎
No PMing today and no voting. 🙁

That sounds like what happened to SOV so were you blocked? because we know the apple wasn't used on you so that means the apple didn't effect SOV at all.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

In the show Tamara knew the identity of her fiancee before she technically met him. She set him up to meet her and fall in love with her because he is magical and she wants to eradicate it. It's possible that's how FFM knew rojo's identity. Tamara is also working for headquarters in the show and it's possible they have info on magical beings. HQ could be like a wolf seer.

No idea of what/who HQ is. I was just told I can guess who Owen is every night, and that I can get role names every other night. I seered rojo N1 and communicated with him once PMing between groups was allowed. I (perhaps wrongly) chose to tell who I am in a gesture of good faith to show my allegiance was villager.

 

[thedrjojo]

That's weird. Wolves know who the villagers are just from the virtue of knowing who all the wolves are, but they usually don't know the roles of the other villagers. I think a wolf seer is more likely...

If Tamara is as evil a person as everyone says she is, then why would a seer drop that info onto thedrjojo. Why not just say s/he is the seer, and s/he now trusts you because you came back a villager?

Something's fishy. unlynch FF, lynch FFM

Right. Which is why I'm still no voting for him

eh, lynch ws

not like it's gonna matter

 

[AlorsOnDanse]

No idea of what/who HQ is. I was just told I can guess who Owen is every night, and that I can get role names every other night. I seered rojo N1 and communicated with him once PMing between groups was allowed. I (perhaps wrongly) chose to tell who I am in a gesture of good faith to show my allegiance was villager.

So you are saying that even though in the show you are trying to destroy magic and don't care if the people die in the game your powers could benefit the villagers? The only thing I could think off is that you could help send the town pack to fairytale land...

 

[Flim Flam Man]

So you are saying that even though in the show you are trying to destroy magic and don't care if the people die in the game your powers could benefit the villagers? The only thing I could think off is that you could help send the town pack to fairytale land...

Yeah, I am a seer, so that helps villagers.

 

[StartingoverVet]

That's weird. Wolves know who the villagers are just from the virtue of knowing who all the wolves are, but they usually don't know the roles of the other villagers. I think a wolf seer is more likely...

If Tamara is as evil a person as everyone says she is, then why would a seer drop that info onto thedrjojo. Why not just say s/he is the seer, and s/he now trusts you because you came back a villager?

Something's fishy. unlynch FF, lynch FFM

If I am a seer, I always tell people their role to prove it. That would apply to wolf or villager.

If FFM was a wolf seer, the best way to get someone's cooperation is to show their ability. (although wolf seers are not a very popular game mechanic).

 

[wldlfstdnt]

So you are saying that even though in the show you are trying to destroy magic and don't care if the people die in the game your powers could benefit the villagers? The only thing I could think off is that you could help send the town pack to fairytale land...

But in the show Tamara doesn't want to do that. SPOILERS: She wants to implode Storybrooke, killing everyone in the town and destroying magic. She doesn't have these grand ideas of keeping people alive. She has one goal and is willing to destroy anyone in her way

 

[StartingoverVet]

That sounds like what happened to SOV so were you blocked? because we know the apple wasn't used on you so that means the apple didn't effect SOV at all.

No... this is different.
I was blocked.
AND I was given the poisoned apple.

They were 2 separate events.
I was specifically told the apple made me lose my vote and my PMing ability.

The blocking just kept me home at night and I couldn't use my role.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

If I am a seer, I always tell people their role to prove it. That would apply to wolf or villager.

If FFM was a wolf seer, the best way to get someone's cooperation is to show their ability. (although wolf seers are not a very popular game mechanic).

If I am a wolf seer, I am not beneficial to wolves, since I am not connected to anyone and cannot kill nor provide input on a kill. And can only communicate with my group. So....

 

[that redhead]

It would be a pretty bold move for a wolf to identify themselves by name ("I'm Tamara") and not just mention they're a seer or something... :\ hrm.

 

[thedrjojo]

If I am a seer, I always tell people their role to prove it. That would apply to wolf or villager.

If FFM was a wolf seer, the best way to get someone's cooperation is to show their ability. (although wolf seers are not a very popular game mechanic).

show them the ability and admit to having a sketchy role? I dunno

I was willing to give him time to have it fettered out. Not going to happen now it seems.

 

[bbeventer]

No idea of what/who HQ is. I was just told I can guess who Owen is every night, and that I can get role names every other night. I seered rojo N1 and communicated with him once PMing between groups was allowed. I (perhaps wrongly) chose to tell who I am in a gesture of good faith to show my allegiance was villager.

This kinda makes sense. Now I am wondering if there is something else going on here. In the show Tamara does have a list of all the fairy tale characters, so it would make sense that in the game Tamara would be able to seek them out. But that could very easily be a wolf or a villager power.

 

[StartingoverVet]

What games have there been people who are wolves who do not know it, and are not linked with anyone from the get go, and cannot do any kills?

WWIldlife is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

Oh wells. Another ambiguous/confusing role for me.

I just hope the record will show that I am a villager after my lynch.

Mods, I don't care if you call it whenever you feel like it, to move things along. I am not going to change any minds, if I have not already. Then I can concentrate on work. :thumbsup:

 

[DVMDream]

show them the ability and admit to having a sketchy role? I dunno

I was willing to give him time to have it fettered out. Not going to happen now it seems.

Do we even know if there is a way to have it fettered out? Someone (I think it may have been you) even said that we have no way of knowing if there is an affiliation seer.

 

[AlorsOnDanse]

No... this is different.
I was blocked.
AND I was given the poisoned apple.

They were 2 separate events.
I was specifically told the apple made me lose my vote and my PMing ability.

The blocking just kept me home at night and I couldn't use my role.

Oh okay so the apple did that to you but killed someone else so it does effect people differently

 

[Flim Flam Man]

But in the show Tamara doesn't want to do that. SPOILERS: She wants to implode Storybrooke, killing everyone in the town and destroying magic. She doesn't have these grand ideas of keeping people alive. She has one goal and is willing to destroy anyone in her way

Does every game follow the show?

 

[StartingoverVet]

show them the ability and admit to having a sketchy role? I dunno

Really. I know I am going to be seered as a wolf quickly, so I would do whatever I can to establish cred before the role comes out. When you "confess" to someone early, it helps your credibility. A used to do that a lot back when people used to believe me.

I also did that when I have a sketchy sounding role as a villager though.

Doesn't work for me anymore in either scenario.

 

[Minnerbelle]

If FFM was a wolf seer, the best way to get someone's cooperation is to show their ability. (although wolf seers are not a very popular game mechanic).

yeah, i'm leaning heavily towards wolf seer.

seer someone in your group, pm him/her their role. let him/her know your evil role's name and swear up and down that you're a villager. that way, if another villager seers you with an item/role, you can try to have your group vouch for you. I mean, they have no other way of knowing other than your word that you're good.

if i were a villager seer, and i had a nefarious character role (but was somehow actually a villager), i'm pretty sure i wouldn't disclose it because i would be much more useful alive and wouldn't want to cast doubt

 

[wldlfstdnt]

Does every game follow the show?

No, not necessarily. What I am saying is I cannot picture why Tamara would be a villager. Gold/Rumple, Regina/Evil Queen. Both are debatable because they have their evil moments AND their good moments. Tamara is just murder and evil. She hasn't done a single thing to make her a good character, so I don't see why the Mods would make her a villager.

 

[Flim Flam Man]

It would be a pretty bold move for a wolf to identify themselves by name ("I'm Tamara") and not just mention they're a seer or something... :\ hrm.

I told him everything about my role abilities

 

[that redhead]

Oh okay so the apple did that to you but killed someone else so it does effect people differently

I was under the impression that the apple itself does not kill people - it just so happened that Nstarz was in possession of the apple when she was killed by the wolf (whose trademark happens to be apples?) That's my take on the situation.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Oh okay so the apple did that to you but killed someone else so it does effect people differently

I don't think the apple killed Nstarz, because someone said that Nstarz HAD the apple.
I think that was poetic license by MODs when the wolves killed Nstarz they just stuffed the apple(s) in her mouth.

I could be wrong.

Still the apple could kill others. I had some protection night 1.

 

[hedgiehog]

No, not necessarily. What I am saying is I cannot picture why Tamara would be a villager. Gold/Rumple, Regina/Evil Queen. Both are debatable because they have their evil moments AND their good moments. Tamara is just murder and evil. She hasn't done a single thing to make her a good character, so I don't see why the Mods would make her a villager.

👍 Pretty much just what I was going to say.

 

[thedrjojo]

Do we even know if there is a way to have it fettered out? Someone (I think it may have been you) even said that we have no way of knowing if there is an affiliation seer.

I dunno if there is a way to have it fettered out. Was willing to try to figure it out somehow

 

[devyn]

I am a bit torn here.... I have gotten bitten in the arse once lynching FFM in the Stripes game for an ambiguous seer role.... the character shouts evil on the page... but I wonder if the mods are twisting our arms here..... I am still thinking

If FFM was a wolf seer, the best way to get someone's cooperation is to show their ability. (although wolf seers are not a very popular game mechanic).

ummm.. what???? 😕 I call BS.... they are a huge game mechanic and are in most games.... so are you just changing up facts to fit your logic/argument as you see fit? 🙄

 

[that redhead]

I told him everything about my role abilities

Let's assume you're a wolf. I'm saying it would be a bold move to reveal yourself to a group member with your name (which you would already know to be fishy since you likely read up on your character) instead of just saying "Hey, I'm a seer so I know you're Bob." or whatever. It would be a lot safer as a wolf to keep your role title under wraps. Which makes me question that you are a wolf :\

I'm not familiar with the show, so my gut is that you aren't a wolf. But everyone familiar with the show is indicating that Tamara is definitely wolfy. So I'm torn...

 

[Flim Flam Man]

yeah, i'm leaning heavily towards wolf seer.

seer someone in your group, pm him/her their role. let him/her know your evil role's name and swear up and down that you're a villager. that way, if another villager seers you with an item/role, you can try to have your group vouch for you. I mean, they have no other way of knowing other than your word that you're good.

if i were a villager seer, and i had a nefarious character role (but was somehow actually a villager), i'm pretty sure i wouldn't disclose it because i would be much more useful alive and wouldn't want to cast doubt

I have been a wolf seer a couple times. Never tried to pass myself off as a villager seer. When I am a wolf, I try to stay under the radar. When I am caught as a wolf, I troll. When I am a villager, I defend myself vehemently. That is my MO.

The last few games have been especially cliquey imo, so I made an effort to ingratiate myself to one of the popular kids asap. I want to actually play a part in the game and not sit on the fringe twiddling my thumbs. Not as fun.

 

[that redhead]

The last few games have been especially cliquey imo, so I made an effort to ingratiate myself to one of the popular kids asap. I want to actually play a part in the game and not sit on the fringe twiddling my thumbs. Not as fun.

Aw jeez, now you're just making me feel bad 🙁

 

[DVMDream]

Let's assume you're a wolf. I'm saying it would be a bold move to reveal yourself to a group member with your name (which you would already know to be fishy since you likely read up on your character) instead of just saying "Hey, I'm a seer so I know you're Bob." or whatever. It would be a lot safer as a wolf to keep your role title under wraps. Which makes me question that you are a wolf :\

I'm not familiar with the show, so my gut is that you aren't a wolf. But everyone familiar with the show is indicating that Tamara is definitely wolfy. So I'm torn...

Boba Fett anyone?? (Ok, she didn't reveal that role she was investigated as such, but how long did it take people to FINALLY lynch her?)

I would say vast majority of the time, if the role sounds/seems evil within the theme of the show/movie/game then chances are good that the same role in WW is probably evil. There have been exceptions but those are few and far between.