Once Upon A Time WW Game Thread

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that redhead said:
Let's assume you're a wolf. I'm saying it would be a bold move to reveal yourself to a group member with your name (which you would already know to be fishy since you likely read up on your character) instead of just saying "Hey, I'm a seer so I know you're Bob." or whatever. It would be a lot safer as a wolf to keep your role title under wraps. Which makes me question that you are a wolf :\

I'm not familiar with the show, so my gut is that you aren't a wolf. But everyone familiar with the show is indicating that Tamara is definitely wolfy. So I'm torn...
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Because of watching the show, I do find it highly unlikely that Tamara is a villager. She is evil in the show. But there is always a possibility that the Mods made her a villager. I wouldn't know why they would do that though. Between Tamara and Greg, I would say Greg is more likely a villager. He is all about revenge and his father, whereas Tamara is purely looking to destroy magic.
 
wldlfstdnt said:
Because of watching the show, I do find it highly unlikely that Tamara is a villager. She is evil in the show. But there is always a possibility that the Mods made her a villager. I wouldn't know why they would do that though. Between Tamara and Greg, I would say Greg is more likely a villager. He is all about revenge and his father, whereas Tamara is purely looking to destroy magic.
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And you are sure that magic is good? Seems to me the people who practice magic in the show are bad or questionable (Cora, Queen, Rumplestiltskin).
 
devyn said:
the person who can vouch for her could have easily come forward originally said "do not lynch WS" and left it at that... no need to role reveal or anything, but instead WS made sure that we now know whoever she is connected to has an important role whilst she has a ****e one... I just don't understand her logic....
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Here's the logic. Plain and simple. If that person came on and said "do NOT lynch WS", wolves may think I have an important role. They kill me. They see I do not have an important role. They think, well maybe the other one does, then. And they kill my partner. Both of us dead, bam.

This way, only one of us dies so early, even if you lynch me.

AlorsOnDanse said:
That sounds like what happened to SOV so were you blocked? because we know the apple wasn't used on you so that means the apple didn't effect SOV at all.
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SOV said he was blocked. Mine said I was attacked. Said nothing about an apple 😕

AlorsOnDanse said:
Oh okay so the apple did that to you but killed someone else so it does effect people differently
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Do we know for SURE that the apples in NStarz mouth were from the THE apple? Or could there be that item AND Regina's kills are apples in the write-up? (refresh, someone else beat me to it, ha)
 
Flim Flam Man said:
And you are sure that magic is good? Seems to me the people who practice magic in the show are bad or questionable (Cora, Queen, Rumplestiltskin).
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Emma does magic though.
I am leaning to just give FFM one more night because I do find it odd that a wolf seer would reveal their role and their ability.... choices.
 
wolfspeaker said:
Here's the logic. Plain and simple. If that person came on and said "do NOT lynch WS", wolves may think I have an important role. They kill me. They see I do not have an important role. They think, well maybe the other one does, then. And they kill my partner. Both of us dead, bam.

This way, only one of us dies so early, even if you lynch me.
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Yes, I figured that part out. However, saying "I can be vouched for, but I don't want them to vouch for me," is NOT a defense. There is no maybe it is, it could be, it might be.. .that is NOT a defense. There are other ways to defend yourself without your partner saying that they vouch for you, those ways have been mentioned in the thread.
 
Flim Flam Man said:
I have been a wolf seer a couple times. Never tried to pass myself off as a villager seer. When I am a wolf, I try to stay under the radar. When I am caught as a wolf, I troll. When I am a villager, I defend myself vehemently. That is my MO.

The last few games have been especially cliquey imo, so I made an effort to ingratiate myself to one of the popular kids asap. I want to actually play a part in the game and not sit on the fringe twiddling my thumbs. Not as fun.
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I dunno about the cliquey thing or how things have gone the past few games because I haven't played at all. But I need to go to work soon, and will be gone throughout the rest of the lynch period.

I do feel kinda bad though, and I don't have time to go back to previous games to verify what you say about your MO as a wolf seer... but it's enough for me to unlynch FFM for now.

Since I still haven't heard of anyone that is a villager who is NOT looking for someone, lynch fantasyflyer. Like I said, I'm leaving, so I won't be able to change my vote even if someone else pipes up.
 
wolfspeaker said:
Here's the logic. Plain and simple. If that person came on and said "do NOT lynch WS", wolves may think I have an important role. They kill me. They see I do not have an important role. They think, well maybe the other one does, then. And they kill my partner. Both of us dead, bam.
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Or role reveal and the wolves determine you aren't worth killing at the time and save yourself and your partner. Just sayin.
 
bbeventer said:
Emma does magic though.
I am leaning to just give FFM one more night because I do find it odd that a wolf seer would reveal their role and their ability.... choices.
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Agreed. I think that giving it one more night may help us in distinguishing the truth. My gut is telling me that FFM is being honest... but maybe it's reverse-logic? Maybe FFM outed himself so that we would all agree "it's un-wolfy" to do so and thus eliminate suspicion? 😏

Decision, decisions...
 
DVMDream said:
Yes, I figured that part out. However, saying "I can be vouched for, but I don't want them to vouch for me," is NOT a defense. There is no maybe it is, it could be, it might be.. .that is NOT a defense. There are other ways to defend yourself without your partner saying that they vouch for you, those ways have been mentioned in the thread.
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That's why I quoted Devyn's post and not yours. She said she didn't see the logic in it.

If I had needed to, I would have role revealed. But, I was around and at 30 minutes til, I didn't need to.

So, instead of lynching me again and again trying to force it out of me, investigate me.
 
DVMDream said:
Doesn't the mad hatter technically use "magic" as well?
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yeah. and using the beans is using magic etc.

Magic is not evil, it just has consequences.

This Tamara thing is bothering me, because if she isn't a wolf, then what makes a wolf in this game.

Not hard to see Escalla/Kaydubs making it hard to figure who the bad guys really are in a show where most of the characters have more than one dimension.

IDK.... I am keeping my vote. Although FFM is playing this well if he is a wolf.
 
Flim Flam Man said:
And you are sure that magic is good? Seems to me the people who practice magic in the show are bad or questionable (Cora, Queen, Rumplestiltskin).
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No, not all magic is good. But the fairy and Emma use magic and they are good. The good people mine fairy dust to allow for good magic. Tamara wants to rid the whole world of all magic and she is willing to kill innocent people who stand in her way
 
FantasyFlyer said:
Agreed. I think that giving it one more night may help us in distinguishing the truth. My gut is telling me that FFM is being honest... but maybe it's reverse-logic? Maybe FFM outed himself so that we would all agree "it's un-wolfy" to do so and thus eliminate suspicion? 😏

Decision, decisions...
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If in the end FFM is a wolf and pulls it off, I will award him a trophy for WW's Largest Testicles.
 
Haven't caught up at the zoo but
###lynch ffm###
 
Minnerbelle said:
Since I still haven't heard of anyone that is a villager who is NOT looking for someone, lynch fantasyflyer. Like I said, I'm leaving, so I won't be able to change my vote even if someone else pipes up.
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Are you only lynching FF because shes not looking for someone? Because my role doesn't have a pair either.
 
Current lynch tally:
WS 3 - devyn, rojo, Dwin
Jam 3 - Lupin, dyachei, TRH
cuit 0
FFM 9 - EC, SOV, bbeventer, swings, allie, hedgie, wld, Alors, wildcat
FantasyFlyer 1 - Minnerbelle

Waffles: 5

Looking for 14 more votes.
 
And my role pm said I was looking for Owen, not Greg. If that matters (looks like they are the same person, but one is storybrooke one isn't.)
 
Thank you to whoever healed me! 😀

I don't trust the FFM thing. Tamara HAS to be a wolf, from what I have seen in the show(I haven't seen ALL of season 2 yet, though)

Lynch FFM
 
Frozenshades said:
He told me his role. Unless he's blatantly lying which I don't think is the case, he's neither Greg, nor a wolf.
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At this point that seems about right. I just found it strange for him to be defending so wolfy of a character and saying that he'd rather lynch a random villager than a wolf. Even if FFM is a wolf, my impression is that Rojo is not complicit in the trickery.
 
Flim Flam Man said:
And my role pm said I was looking for Owen, not Greg. If that matters (looks like they are the same person, but one is storybrooke one isn't.)
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He goes by Greg as an adult while in Storybrooke because Regina knew him as Owen
 
thedrjojo said:
I dunno what to make of it, but i'm willing to wait for time to figure it out and save a useful villager, when killing a wolf wouldn't end the game now...
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You'd rather pass on a highly-suspected wolf and your argument is "because it's not game-ending"? That's ... weird. Wouldn't you want to take out the wolf <and whatever its role is>??? Even though wolf numbers are the primary concern, don't forget they (often? usually? sometimes?) have abilities to boot. Letting them continue to use it... I dunno. I think you'd have to have a strong reason.

that redhead said:
I read that as something COMPLETELY different 😱:naughty:
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Wow TRH, I didn't peg you as a closet perv. 🙂

wolfspeaker said:
Here's the logic. Plain and simple. If that person came on and said "do NOT lynch WS", wolves may think I have an important role. They kill me. They see I do not have an important role. They think, well maybe the other one does, then. And they kill my partner. Both of us dead, bam.

This way, only one of us dies so early, even if you lynch me.
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Ok, but I think you're missing the point. Saying "someone can vouch for me" and "please don't vouch for me so that you stay hidden" is just silly. You aren't vouched for because you CLAIM someone can vouch for you. You're vouched for because someone actually DOES. Anyone can claim to have someone vouch for them. (For the record, nobody can vouch for me, and to add onto that other tangent ... I'm not 'looking' for anyone.)

So if you don't want this person to out him/herself, then don't even bring it up. Instead, opt for something like role-revealing and just leave out the whole vouching sideshow.

Anyway, back to FFM. I dunno... the vast majority have said "no way Tamara can be a villager" ... whenever this happens and we're waffling, I think "how badly do I want to risk being Boba Fett'd?"

lynch FFM
 
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that redhead said:
I've brought up that suggestions but she has continued to ignore it :shrug:
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So did DVMD. But at this point it makes sense: WS isn't looking likely to be lynched right now, so why role reveal. I was just saying that back <then> the right choice would have been to role reveal, not to pull the whole "vouching" shell game.

Although .... gotta admit, it appears to have worked.
 
LetItSnow said:
So did DVMD. But at this point it makes sense: WS isn't looking likely to be lynched right now, so why role reveal. I was just saying that back <then> the right choice would have been to role reveal, not to pull the whole "vouching" shell game.

Although .... gotta admit, it appears to have worked.
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Only cause we have something better, still my vote for tomorrow. Until I hear otherwise... the whole defense and now her "attack" today... just all of it seems really odd.
 
that redhead said:
At this point that seems about right. I just found it strange for him to be defending so wolfy of a character and saying that he'd rather lynch a random villager than a wolf. Even if FFM is a wolf, my impression is that Rojo is not complicit in the trickery.
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Yeah. He told me about his thoughts on Tamara before it was outed to everyone as being FFM. I don't know what to think at this point. Though unless something happens it looks like the masses have made up their mind about offing FFM anyway.
 
LetItSnow said:
Ok, but I think you're missing the point. Saying "someone can vouch for me" and "please don't vouch for me so that you stay hidden" is just silly. You aren't vouched for because you CLAIM someone can vouch for you. You're vouched for because someone actually DOES. Anyone can claim to have someone vouch for them. (For the record, nobody can vouch for me, and to add onto that other tangent ... I'm not 'looking' for anyone.)

So if you don't want this person to out him/herself, then don't even bring it up. Instead, opt for something like role-revealing and just leave out the whole vouching sideshow.


lynch FFM
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MY point in saying someone can vouch for me, was for people to back off, rethink things, and investigate me. Thankfully, they did back off. Since that lynch, something has been in the works, that should come out on thread sometime in the next 24 hours or so(depending on when people check PM's), to confirm that someone can vouch for me)

You really think I would leave it at "someone can vouch for me, but nobody really can" for the rest of the game? :laugh:

I just like to be a little more sly about things. Wolves don't need to be in the know :meanie: There's no need to role reveal or out someone else(even a connection), when there are other ways to go about it, behind the scenes. 👍
 
Finally got caught up. I'm on my phone so it's too difficult to quote people to reply to...

I also only have one character name, and am not looking for anyone (at least not to my knowledge).
I have not seen the last few episodes of season 2, but I agree with everyone that at least so far Tamara is one of the least ambiguous characters, and is evil, so lynch ffm.
 
wolfspeaker said:
MY point in saying someone can vouch for me, was for people to back off, rethink things, and investigate me.
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Ok, but it's about as meaningful a defense as "Hey all, I know you're voting to lynch me, but I'm not a wolf. Kkthxbai."

I mean ... by saying you can be vouched for but not actually letting it happen ... what have you done? Nothing.

wolfspeaker said:
You really think I would leave it at "someone can vouch for me, but nobody really can" for the rest of the game? :laugh:
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Until you do otherwise, I can't determine my actions based on what you claim you might do. I'm with DVMD ... barring some other obvious vote tomorrow that would cause me to change it, my contingency vote will go in for you. You're just doing too much hand-waving with no actual substance.
 
Current lynch tally:
WS 3 - devyn, rojo, Dwin
Jam 3 - Lupin, dyachei, TRH
cuit 0
FFM 12 - EC, SOV, bbeventer, swings, allie, hedgie, wld, Alors, wildcat, WS, LIS, tuckervet
FantasyFlyer 1 - Minnerbelle

Waffles: 8

Looking for 11 more votes.
 
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