Panem et Circenses - Game Thread

[Animal Midwife]

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you don't believe the Spartacus claim?

I'm bothered by his behavior on thread still. I don't understand the mechanics.

 

[JustPaws]

Are you sure you want me to do this in mylo?

yes, but you can unlynch me after and vote whoever you want after.

 

[Animal Midwife]

yes, but you can unlynch me after and vote whoever you want after.

Unlynch MsP
Lynch Paws
Unlynch Paws
Lynch MsP

 

[JustPaws]

AM is it best that we all vote msp or do we want more than one option on the board? what is the count making you think mylo?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 5 Lynch Tally
MsP (5) - Paws, Stagg, Barks, AM, Lawpy
jboo (1) - cubs

6/10
lynch close in ~10 hours

 

[Animal Midwife]

AM is it best that we all vote msp or do we want more than one option on the board? what is the count making you think mylo?

If there's four wolves, we're at 6:4 right now. I think we do have to vote together. Particularly with these riskier tie mechanics.

 

[JustPaws]

Unofficial Day 5 Lynch Tally
MsP (5) - Paws, Stagg, Barks, AM, Lawpy
Paws () -
jboo (1) - cubs

6/10
lynch close in ~10 hours

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 5 Lynch Tally
MsP (5) - Paws, Stagg, Barks, AM, Lawpy
jboo (1) - cubs
AM (1) - jboo
Paws () -

7/10
lynch close in ~10 hours

 

[JustPaws]

@Ms Procrastinator wanna come on today and say anything???

 

[Animal Midwife]

If there's four wolves, we're at 6:4 right now. I think we do have to vote together. Particularly with these riskier tie mechanics.

At the very least, there should be no more than two wagons.

 

[cubsrule4e]

At the very least, there should be no more than two wagons.

Ill start the second.

unlynch jboo
lynch AM

Wolves need a mislynch, you yourself are bringing it up, then you cast suspicion on village leaning people like myself, even after knowing I have a highly likely village role. Unless village is really really bad, theres gotta be a wolf somewhere on the D1/D2 ziggy/mutts lynch and you conveniently qualify for both. Youre also the only one of the 3 people remaining from my original suspect list.

The MsP thing seems way too easy and opportunistic. I think village should at least put some pressure on AM and see how the votes start changing later.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Top suspects currently are Lawpy and Doggo. Barks may also be in there.

If you can Stagg are packmates and manufactured that tussle earlier in the game I s2g I will spontaneously combust

Also weirded out by this. And if it was legitimate before, may make him a good convert choice if there has been one. Yet at the same time also still weirded out by jboo for pointing certain things out. Wonder if she'll stay on the AM vote if it picks up steam.

 

[Barkley13]

The MsP thing seems way too easy and opportunistic.

How is it opportunistic?

 

[Melchizedek]

Day 5 More bloodshed! Official Lynch Tally
MsP (5) - Paws, Stagg, Barks, AM, Lawpy
jboo () -
AM (2) - jboo, cubs
Paws () -

7/10
lynch close in 9.5 hours

 

[Doggo Labs]

Why dolphin and jboo as village? Why is lawper the most wolfy?

And since we’re all sharing do you got anything?

I'm vanilla
With the wolfie there a tie for the top three, I'm getting feels about all of them. I'll go back and refind my reasons, but that'll have to be later in the day when I get to those.
Dolph and jboo because I haven't noticed a whole lot of sketch coming from them, besides when jboo pointed out the rojo. I will go back and reread through parts of the thread, again that'll be later in the day when I have time to sit down and go through it

 

[Doggo Labs]

I forgot to add this in
Lynch MsPro

 

[JustPaws]

I forgot to add this in
Lynch MsPro

Well now I definitely think this is a bandwagon

 

[JustPaws]

Sorry AM it feels wrong
unlynch MsP
Lynch Stagg

 

[Barkley13]

I’m debating switching to doggo

 

[JustPaws]

I’m debating switching to doggo

ohhh i thought about there too... but you're also on my sketch list....

 

[JustPaws]

Maybe I am so off I should be voting AM 😕😕😕

 

[JustPaws]

****kkkkk why did pippy die?

masons are like overglorifed vanillagers, basically, without more abilities, PMs, or items, the only data we can get is from the open thread, and that and the fact all I got are leans, doesn't help

I'm so tired, I'm not doing it anymore I AM NOT REPEATING MYSELF ON THIS, MY LEANS ARE MY LEANS AND THAT'S ****ING IT, THE END, NO MORE TO SAY ON IT

if you want to add something, great, but I have nothing more to add to my gut reads, if I think of anything more specific or I happen to have an answer to follow up questions you want to ask, fine, let's try

I don't have it in me to go back and see where the gut reads came from, so I really don't have anything more to say on it, go ahead and ask your questions, but I don't have answers beyond what I've said on each player already

unless someone wants to correct me about what's happened recently with AM's play, or anyone else I'm wrongly saying is village/wolf as far as you're concerned that I've laid out already

 

[dolphin106258]

Lynch stagg

I still think AM is village. And am fine with the Ms. P lynch because I just feel like we’re being ghosted by a noob wolf, which I’m 90% sure I’ve done in at least one of my wolf games. So I’m putting my option up, Stagg just feels most Wolfy to me right now.

 

[JustPaws]

really not liking your votes and thoughts this game, AM
I don't mean that personally, just that something feels really really off
it does feel like you're wandering, and not backed up well like you usually do

same with doggo and stagg, just feel weird to me this game
WZ and pippy weren't too far off meta, but still a touch different

barks and dolphin feel "too village to be true". I tunneled them in that vein for a whole game where they were village. Village might have won. So this is just a null read from me, I guess. Like... if someone seems village, that's village points, right? If the fact that they seem so village seems wolfy...

The rest I can vaguely recall, so that's not exactly reassuring

 

[JustPaws]

Stagg will twist your words when he wolfs. However, as a villager, doing so will fluster both villager and wolf alike, so it's a good way to see how someone reacts to their words being twisted and how they defend.

 

[Stagg737]

AM is it best that we all vote msp or do we want more than one option on the board? what is the count making you think mylo?

If there's four wolves, we're at 6:4 right now. I think we do have to vote together. Particularly with these riskier tie mechanics.

I'll give you all a secret piece of information. If there are 4 wolves left, then you're already at Lylo. I wonder how I know that 🤔

just feel weird to me this game

I feel weird too, I've never been Swiss before...

 

[JustPaws]

I feel weird too, I've never been Swiss before...

Sears.com 😕😕😕

 

[JustPaws]

then you're already at Lylo

your? not including yourself in the village count?

 

[JustPaws]

unlynch stagg
lynch msp

 

[Stagg737]

your? not including yourself in the village count?

Nope, per Mel I'm not included in any counts regarding parity. If you ask really nicely I'll give you my ability/night results, but you should already know one of them 😉

 

[JustPaws]

contingency lynch the booze

if that doesnt work then im going paws who has been acting stranger as the game progresses... whats with needing someone to vote for you? Looking back Im also curious how she seemingly joke lynched me to start the game and threw out those "statistics" about my % wolf/villager game ratio which has been established many times is meaningless, and no one seemed to call her out on that. The immediate cubs lynch could preemptively put the seed in other peoples subconscious even if she ultimately didnt stay on me, which it did and I was at the top of peoples lists for the first 2 days.

This whole section that tries to justify voting me makes no sense.
No one gives a shyte but me if I die, you are not teaching an effective lesson, this is just crap crap crap reasoning to go after me.

I don't care, my death and flip as a villager should be looked at closely after my flip. This doesn't feel like v vs v now.

 

[Stagg737]

Nope, per Mel I'm not included in any counts regarding parity. If you ask really nicely I'll give you my ability/night results, but you should already know one of them 😉

Though they may come later this afternoon, because in 20 minutes i start 2 hours worth of meetings.

 

[JustPaws]

Nope, per Mel I'm not included in any counts regarding parity. If you ask really nicely I'll give you my ability/night results, but you should already know one of them 😉

Very interesting. I bet I can guess two of them

 

[Stagg737]

Very interesting. I bet I can guess two of them

You should be able to guess all 3 if you were paying attention!

 

[Stagg737]

Is everyone having fun? Because I was told that's the job of my role, to make sure you're all having fun 🙂

 

[JustPaws]

Is everyone having fun? Because I was told that's the job of my role, to make sure you're all having fun 🙂

i certainly am. or am I? I can't remember 🙁😳

 

[JustPaws]

You should be able to guess all 3 if you were paying attention!

 

[Stagg737]

I'll give ya'll hints before my meeting (I'll tell later, but no one has asked nicely yet). I used my ability N1, N3, and last night. Could only use it 3 times in the game, so I'm Nuetrella now.

 

[JustPaws]

I'll give ya'll hints before my meeting (I'll tell later, but no one has asked nicely yet). I used my ability N1, N3, and last night. Could only use it 3 times in the game, so I'm Nuetrella now.

are you dead inside now?

 

[Barkley13]

Ah I’m gonna do it

Unlynch MsP
Lynch doggo

 

[JustPaws]

I'll give ya'll hints before my meeting (I'll tell later, but no one has asked nicely yet). I used my ability N1, N3, and last night. Could only use it 3 times in the game, so I'm Nuetrella now.

do you think its weird that no one has asked you for the results? I think it is...

 

[Barkley13]

I'll give ya'll hints before my meeting (I'll tell later, but no one has asked nicely yet). I used my ability N1, N3, and last night. Could only use it 3 times in the game, so I'm Nuetrella now.

I mean I got some weird results night three

 

[Stagg737]

are you dead inside now?

No, just enjoying my popcorn

 

[JustPaws]

OMFG YOU ARE SO HYPOCRITICAL

WHY ARE YOU SO FREAKING BLACK AND WHITE

WIFOM - MafiaWiki
Many times analyzing night kills, especially unexpected night kills, is considered WIFOM, as only the killers can say with certainty why someone died. At present, night-kill analysis is considered simply another possibly-reliable piece of evidence, neither useless nor authoritative.
NKA is fine, BUT AS I'VE SAID YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL AND BALANCED WITH IT. IF IT IS NOT MAKING SENSE OR GIVING YOU GOOD LEADS, THEN YOU SHOULD ABANDON IT BECAUSE

ONLY THE WOLVES KNOW FOR SURE WHAT THEY DID AND WHY

I'm of the opinion you're having a hard time telling which is which, just as you're seeing my stance on NKA overall and my questions to merely consider should they yield reasonable theories about Barkley, as inconsistent.

it's *this* example of your obsession with inconsistency and inability to grasp nuance that is making me lose my cool

YOU last game used NKA repeatedly as though it were authoritative. This game you are finding it hard to reconcile that while I do not find it authoritative, nor do I find it useless.

You are also calling people out for voting those who are not on or have not played in a while. Yes, these are sometimes used as ways that people will defend other players, BUT IT ISN'T BLACK AND WHITE. It does not mean that people are inconsistent in a way that matters.

I'll give you another example.

I intially defended that nav's vote didn't look good, mostly because I didn't like that people were voting her for saying "I hate all this math talk" "Oh wait I have something to say about it." That's totally natural. The contentious conversations we wish would go away are typically the ones someone has a hard time holding their piece on. It's an example of "Oh look you're not being consistent!!!!!!!!! let's vote you!" kinda vote THAT IS MAKING ME LOSE MY **** THIS GAME. Dolph can hate the math talk yet find it impossible to overcome an urge to reply. Both can be true. Neither is a sign of inconsistency consistent with a lie.

People will be inconsistent. The thing to determine is, is this consistent with them being TRUTHFUL or the way their brain works. To thine own self be true, adapted to WW, are they being true to themselves. Knowing that people will contradict themselves, be hypocritical, and that is NOT the surefire way to catch a wolf. It's the way in which they do it.

 

[Stagg737]

I think someone broke Paws...

That or Crayola kidnapped her and has taken over her identity...

 

[JustPaws]

Is this real life?

 

[Lawpy]

Ah I’m gonna do it

Unlynch MsP
Lynch doggo

I could see them as packmates

 

[Lawpy]

I miss the casual Pawsy but its understandable cause this game' been disappointing. My brain basically checked out after the WZ and Sporty flips

 

[JustPaws]

I miss the casual Pawsy but its understandable cause this game' been disappointing. My brain basically checked out after the WZ and Sporty flips

there is no escape from reality. OPEN YOUR EYES!

 

[Lawpy]

I think wolves are among mspro, doggy, dophin and Stagg. Its the feels