Ranks the Texas (MD) Med School

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In Texas there is:
Baylor College of Medicine
UT- Houston
UTMB Galveston
UT-Southwestern
UTHSC San Antonio
Texas A&M
Texas Tech El Paso
Texas Tech Lubbock

Rank them please!

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Baylor>UTSW>UT Houston>the rest IMO
 
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UTSW>Baylor>UT Houston>UTMB>UTHSC>Texas A&M > Texas Tech Lubbock> Texas Tech El Paso

But they are all good school!
 
Baylor=Utsw> UT Houston > UT San Antonio = Utmb> Tamu > tech

Agree with this. I wouldn't say Baylor is better than utsw or the otherway around. They are both great schools and it comes down to personal preference.
 
UTSW > Baylor > UT-Houston > UT-Galveston > UT-San Antonio > Texas A&M > Texas Tech Lubbock > Texas Tech El Paso

my rank
 
And it begins.....

Baylor>UTSW>UT-H>UTMB>Texas A&M>Texas Tech> UT-SA


Baylor 1.5 curriculum, TMC, P/F and a diverse class that draws from all over the nation makes it the number one school in Texas. Now, when it comes to fit this is where they may waiver a bit.
 
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And it begins.....

Baylor>UTSW>UT-H>UTMB>Texas A&M>Texas Tech> UT-SA


Baylor 1.5 curriculum, TMC, P/F and a diverse class that draws from all over the nation makes it the number one school in Texas. Now, when it comes to fit this is where they may waiver a bit.

Why UTSA at end? Just wondering?
 
Texas schools have traditionally been ranked by their location...period.

Dallas/Houston/Austin will always be above San Antonio/Galveston/Temple which will all be above Lubbock or El Paso....

I hate students seeing get caught up in 'which school is better' or 'which residency is better'... At the end of the day, go somewhere that you will be 'happy' and is accredited...thats all that really matters.
 
What's the curriculum/class schedule like at UTSA? Trying to get any info out of their website is like pulling teeth. 😡
 
What's the curriculum/class schedule like at UTSA? Trying to get any info out of their website is like pulling teeth. 😡


I don't think they even know what it is going be like at the moment. However, they said it would be similar to UCLA.
 
going through changes next year, so no one is going to have a very good answer to that...at least not an experienced one.
 
It seems like everyone ranks A&M above Tech. Can someone please give me some opinions on that?
 
It seems like everyone ranks A&M above Tech. Can someone please give me some opinions on that?

FWIW, I liked Tech better than A&M. I think people like TAMU over TTech due to Scott & White vs. Tech's rotations in bumble**** Amarillo and Permian Basin.
 
I might rank Tech El Paso over A&M and Lubbock....maybe.
 
Baylor is on AMCAS and not TDDSASSS.

Therefore, Baylor is obviously the best.

I dislike baylor JUST because of that! I paid more to apply to Baylor alone through AMCAS than I paid to apply to 6 other Texas schools 😛
 
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UTSW > UTH > UTMB > UTSA

I'm not in a position to rank the other schools because I have not interviewed there.
 
Baylor 1.5 curriculum, TMC, P/F and a diverse class that draws from all over the nation makes it the number one school in Texas. Now, when it comes to fit this is where they may waiver a bit.

I will agree with all of these points except for the P/F.

Baylor has a ranked P/F system, which means your pre-clinical grades still technically matter. If Baylor had an unranked P/F system, that would be a huge plus ... but as it is, a ranked P/F system might actually be a negative in my book (unless I misunderstood the BCM students at my interview).
 
UTSW/BAYLOR
UTH
UTMB
TAMHSC
TTUHSC/FOSTER
UTHSCSA

SA last for being on probation. Tamhsc is rising exponentially. Expect it to pull even with utmb in the next two decades. I didn't like techs hospitals and foster is new but already doing quite well.
 
Personal rank (of schools I've interviewed at):

UTSW
UTH
A&M
Tech
UTMB
UTHSCSA
 
I will agree with all of these points except for the P/F.

Baylor has a ranked P/F system, which means your pre-clinical grades still technically matter. If Baylor had an unranked P/F system, that would be a huge plus ... but as it is, a ranked P/F system might actually be a negative in my book (unless I misunderstood the BCM students at my interview).



It is only ranked for AOA purposes. Otherwise your rank ect is not included in your letter etc. With a class reaching 200 it needs to have AOA (its an honor that should be given to the top of the class) even Yale has AOA (and they are very strict pass/fail).

Small schools like Pritzker,Stanford, and Mayo, do not need to differentiate from the top and the bottom of the class because at that point you are splitting hairs. (The top 3 students out of a 50 person class really?).

For what it is worth AOA at UTSW is a 3.6-3.7 or higher. On a +/- system this is not a joke to obtain (of course other things are involved).
 
From interviewing experience and location preference:

BCM> UTSW>> UTMB>> Tech at Lubbock> UTSA> A&M

Will know about UTH soon.
 
It is only ranked for AOA purposes. Otherwise your rank ect is not included in your letter etc. With a class reaching 200 it needs to have AOA (its an honor that should be given to the top of the class) even Yale has AOA (and they are very strict pass/fail).

Small schools like Pritzker,Stanford, and Mayo, do not need to differentiate from the top and the bottom of the class because at that point you are splitting hairs. (The top 3 students out of a 50 person class really?).

For what it is worth AOA at UTSW is a 3.6-3.7 or higher. On a +/- system this is not a joke to obtain (of course other things are involved).

Yale doesn't have AOA. Pritzker has AOA.
http://www.alphaomegaalpha.org/chapters.html

That being said, if you're going for AOA, I don't see how a ranked P/F system would be any less stressful than an A/B/Cwhatever system, but to each their own. We all operate differently 🙂
 
Really, Lubbock over San Antonio?

I'm not the only one that thinks so, at least based on this thread. Personally, the UTSA interview day was the most unexciting of all and the main building was really old/plain fugly (this is not a major deciding factor, though). Also, being interested in global health I was far more impressed by Tech's offerings.

Oh and yeah, probation.
 
Okay, so I have a somewhat off topic question, but I don't want to start a new thread and since a bunch of ya'll know about Texas medical schools maybe ya'll could help.

So lets say I don't pre-match at UTSW and UTH and on my match list I put UTH as 1st and UTSW as 2nd, and I happen to match with UTH on match day. Would I be out of the running for UTSW completely?
 
Okay, so I have a somewhat off topic question, but I don't want to start a new thread and since a bunch of ya'll know about Texas medical schools maybe ya'll could help.

So lets say I don't pre-match at UTSW and UTH and on my match list I put UTH as 1st and UTSW as 2nd, and I happen to match with UTH on match day. Would I be out of the running for UTSW completely?

Yes.
 
I would agree UTSW = Baylor >>> the rest.

The inevitable decision between UTSW and Baylor remains a tough one
 
I would agree UTSW = Baylor >>> the rest.

The inevitable decision between UTSW and Baylor remains a tough one


I would not agree with that. Baylor and UTSW are very different in feel. If you are looking at ranking yeah it appears like a hard desicion. However, if you actually interview at both of the schools you can see that they are like night and day. TMC vs. Dallas very different feel. 1.5 curriculum vs. Traditional very very different. Even the teaching is very different where Baylor has a more clinical focus and UTSW more basic science. Public vs. Private..I mean come on.

Before I interviewed I thought they would be very similar but afterwards I realized they could not be more differ
 
I would not agree with that. Baylor and UTSW are very different in feel. If you are looking at ranking yeah it appears like a hard desicion. However, if you actually interview at both of the schools you can see that they are like night and day. TMC vs. Dallas very different feel. 1.5 curriculum vs. Traditional very very different. Even the teaching is very different where Baylor has a more clinical focus and UTSW more basic science. Public vs. Private..I mean come on.

Before I interviewed I thought they would be very similar but afterwards I realized they could not be more differ


yes i agree. they are obviously different. But being in a position like i am in now where i am holding offers to both, i'm finding it difficult to say one is better than the other except that UTSW offered me substantial $$$ making it better in my book 😀
 
I would not agree with that. Baylor and UTSW are very different in feel. If you are looking at ranking yeah it appears like a hard desicion. However, if you actually interview at both of the schools you can see that they are like night and day. TMC vs. Dallas very different feel. 1.5 curriculum vs. Traditional very very different. Even the teaching is very different where Baylor has a more clinical focus and UTSW more basic science. Public vs. Private..I mean come on.

Before I interviewed I thought they would be very similar but afterwards I realized they could not be more differ

After seeing multiple posts of yours, you seem like the typical naive premed who thinks a very tiny difference in clinical opportunities is going to have a dramatic difference on your career path. Let's be serious, medical school is medical school. And when you're talking about schools like UTSW and Baylor, the difference is almost negligible in terms of what is a better school. Some people believe a stronger basic science background is what is essential in a medical school because they get plenty of training during residency and fellowship anyways. That is not to say that UTSW isn't strong clinically; in fact, I would say it's just as strong or stronger than Baylor if you look at the hours of clinical experience 3rd and 4th year students get as well as how much responsibility they're allowed. But of course, you're probably in that 99% of people who judge clinical strength based on how pretty the facilities are. In the end, the choice between UTSW and Baylor really comes down to gut feeling, because you honestly can't go wrong with either school.
 
After seeing multiple posts of yours, you seem like the typical naive premed who thinks a very tiny difference in clinical opportunities is going to have a dramatic difference on your career path. Let's be serious, medical school is medical school. And when you're talking about schools like UTSW and Baylor, the difference is almost negligible in terms of what is a better school. Some people believe a stronger basic science background is what is essential in a medical school because they get plenty of training during residency and fellowship anyways. That is not to say that UTSW isn't strong clinically; in fact, I would say it's just as strong or stronger than Baylor if you look at the hours of clinical experience 3rd and 4th year students get as well as how much responsibility they're allowed. But of course, you're probably in that 99% of people who judge clinical strength based on how pretty the facilities are. In the end, the choice between UTSW and Baylor really comes down to gut feeling, because you honestly can't go wrong with either school.


I am just saying my thoughts on the schools. The schools are very very different. I think anybody who interviewed at both would agree. When it comes to residency placement Baylor has a stronger reptutation and a wider reach. Why? Becase they draw from students all over the country. UTSW main focus is to create superior TEXAS clinicans this is resonated in their mission statement. They are BIG on creating primary care physicians because that is what is needed in Texas. Baylor is a little more open in regards to allowing students to venture to different specialities etc. this is illustrated in their match list. I have interviewed alot of places in and out of Texas. Each school has their own feel and sometimes this is the only thing that seperates one school from another. However, let me assure you this is not the case for Baylor and UTSW. The school are just too different to compare. They both will produce great physicians but the curriculum, environment and overall mission statements of the schools are just too different to say that the differences are small. I do not think the schools would appreciate you saying that they are all alike. All the schools have their unique personality especially in Texas.

It is just my opinion that Baylor is a best school in Texas, and I gave my reasons. If you think they are equal you can give your reasons why you believe so.
 
I am just saying my thoughts on the schools. The schools are very very different. I think anybody who interviewed at both would agree. When it comes to residency placement Baylor has a stronger reptutation and a wider reach. Why? Becase they draw from students all over the country. UTSW main focus is to create superior TEXAS clinicans this is resonated in their mission statement. They are BIG on creating primary care physicians because that is what is needed in Texas. Baylor is a little more open in regards to allowing students to venture to different specialities etc. this is illustrated in their match list. I have interviewed alot of places in and out of Texas. Each school has their own feel and sometimes this is the only thing that seperates one school from another. However, let me assure you this is not the case for Baylor and UTSW. The school are just too different to compare. They both will produce great physicians but the curriculum, environment and overall mission statements of the schools are just too different to say that the differences are small. I do not think the schools would appreciate you saying that they are all alike. All the schools have their unique personality especially in Texas.

It is just my opinion that Baylor is a best school in Texas, and I gave my reasons. If you think they are equal you can give your reasons why you believe so.

👍 Great post
 
When it comes to residency placement Baylor has a stronger reptutation and a wider reach. Why? Becase they draw from students all over the country.

Do you happen to know if Baylor has posted their match list anywhere?
It's really hard for me to make a comparison between the two schools in terms of residency placements if there aren't two lists to compare :laugh:

In 2011, UTSW matched ~46% of their students to OOS residencies, compared to ~50% for BCM, which is a small enough difference that I wouldn't immediately discount UTSW's reach compared to Baylor. The most popular OOS residencies for UTSW students appeared to be Case Western (7) and Barnes-Jewish (6).

http://www.bcm.edu/medschool/matchday/2011.html
http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsr.../center-times-online-match-day-2011-list.html

It is just my opinion that Baylor is a best school in Texas, and I gave my reasons. If you think they are equal you can give your reasons why you believe so.

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I loved everything about Baylor. We'll see if they love me back :laugh:
 
Do you happen to know if Baylor has posted their match list anywhere?
It's really hard for me to make a comparison between the two schools in terms of residency placements if there aren't two lists to compare :laugh:

In 2011, UTSW matched ~46% of their students to OOS residencies, compared to ~50% for BCM, which is a small enough difference that I wouldn't immediately discount UTSW's reach compared to Baylor. The most popular OOS residencies for UTSW students appeared to be Case Western (7) and Barnes-Jewish (6).

http://www.bcm.edu/medschool/matchday/2011.html
http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsr.../center-times-online-match-day-2011-list.html



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I loved everything about Baylor. We'll see if they love me back :laugh:

LOL! The Infamous Baylor match list. I have repeatedly asked current students and administrators to get a copy of the match list. All i keep hearing is the number of people matching to which areas. It's an interesting situation. UTSW on the other hand gave all interviewees a copy of the 2011 match list, all the numbers etc. Everything needed to make a decision. Would be nice to have the same info about Baylor, as i do of other schools i've been accepted to.
 
In Texas there is:
Baylor College of Medicine
UT- Houston
UTMB Galveston
UT-Southwestern
UTHSC San Antonio
Texas A&M
Texas Tech El Paso
Texas Tech Lubbock

Rank them please!

After being associated with multiple of those schools, I would argue that ranking them is highly subjective. Tiers are more appropriate.

Tier 1 - Baylor, UTSW
Tier 2 - UTH, TT-Lubbock, UTMB, UTSA
Tier 3, Texas A&M, TT-el paso, TCOM

There is a previous thread where I detailed my thoughts.
 
LOL! The Infamous Baylor match list. I have repeatedly asked current students and administrators to get a copy of the match list. All i keep hearing is the number of people matching to which areas. It's an interesting situation. UTSW on the other hand gave all interviewees a copy of the 2011 match list, all the numbers etc. Everything needed to make a decision. Would be nice to have the same info about Baylor, as i do of other schools i've been accepted to.

I have no doubt that Baylor matches well (you would have to assume so, given their insane Step 1 averages). I'm just curious exactly what type of OOS residencies they're matching into. If Baylor students are getting into the same range of residences as UTSW students, then I think the comparison between the two is a moot point .... on the other hand, if they're ALL matching into MGH/UCSF/whatever, then I think it's a point worth considering :laugh:
 
I have no doubt that Baylor matches well (you would have to assume so, given their insane Step 1 averages). I'm just curious exactly what type of OOS residencies they're matching into. If Baylor students are getting into the same range of residences as UTSW students, then I think the comparison between the two is a moot point .... on the other hand, if they're ALL matching into MGH/UCSF/whatever, then I think it's a point worth considering :laugh:

Very similar to UTSW. No school makes it that easy. I have friends that graduated from Baylor that had a tough time matching, and they were excellent applicants. Baylor is a good school, but it is not a golden ticket.
 
Do you happen to know if Baylor has posted their match list anywhere?
It's really hard for me to make a comparison between the two schools in terms of residency placements if there aren't two lists to compare :laugh:

In 2011, UTSW matched ~46% of their students to OOS residencies, compared to ~50% for BCM, which is a small enough difference that I wouldn't immediately discount UTSW's reach compared to Baylor. The most popular OOS residencies for UTSW students appeared to be Case Western (7) and Barnes-Jewish (6).

http://www.bcm.edu/medschool/matchday/2011.html
http://www.utsouthwestern.edu/newsr.../center-times-online-match-day-2011-list.html

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I loved everything about Baylor. We'll see if they love me back :laugh:


Yeah, I have yet to ever see a Baylor match list. And also, Baylor only has to take 70% in-state applicants as opposed to UTSW's 90%, so the reality is that a greater majority of UTSW students do not WANT to go to OOS residency. What I do know, is that USNEWS reports UTSW having higher residency program director rankings than Baylor.
 
Yeah, I have yet to ever see a Baylor match list. And also, Baylor only has to take 70% in-state applicants as opposed to UTSW's 90%, so the reality is that a greater majority of UTSW students do not WANT to go to OOS residency. What I do know, is that USNEWS reports UTSW having higher residency program director rankings than Baylor.



They are both great schools. Just very different in feel,curriculum,funding, and environment. Either you place UTSW in front of Baylor because of preference or Baylor in front of UTSW. If we are talking about school ranking in creating good physicians then this is my ranking.

UTMB=UTSW=Baylor=TTU=TTU-EL PASO=UT-Houston=UT-SA=Texas A&M=TCOM


Every school in Texas can create you into a superior and great physician because they have the resources to do so. We are lucky to be in a state where all of the schools are top notch. You really can't go wrong. 👍
 
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