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Wtf.

I am so confused. I should be dead. Legit was reading the thread and saw the vote switch to me towards the end and thought “thank god, they’re putting me out of my misery” and I honestly have nooo idea why I’m still alive. So serious....swear on my kitties.
 
Major side eyeing those that jumped on me at the end. Wolves would have known I could die which makes me think this happened because of either a villager or potentially chaos mechanism. I am not a wolf.

Is it possible AM’s protection got redirected to me? I didn’t receive any notification though.
 
I was stuck in a damn parking lot for 2 hours. Seriously they had a football game getting out, a concert getting out and another concert starting all from the same damn parking area. It was a ****ing mess.
 
Seriously, wolves are probably scratching their head right now wondering why I didn’t die.
 
DVMDream said:
If teep isn't a wolf, you'll be wasting two lynches on rezzes which will allow the wolves that much closer to win.
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Or Teep is a wolf and we win the game.

Or you are a wolf and we win the game.

Or, sure, neither of you are wolves, and we end up losing or being closer to losing.
 
DVMDream said:
Either teep is telling the truth and we're both villagers or teep was rezzed by a wolf since no one is claiming his rez either. I have no way to tell other than to lynch teep. But damn if we're both villagers that really ****ing wastes two lynches for the village. Because as I'm seeing it now, no one is going to believe either of us.

Now I'm regretting asking to come back as it was worse for the village than I though it would be.
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Well. It's my fault, too. I bitched about someone rezzing you because a) I guessed there'd be a village rezzer, and b) I figured it was at least 50/50 you came back with your ability.
 
PippyPony said:
Sorry AM but I'm going to fully out the info I have on you.

So, for everyone who is not actually reading the thread:

AM is Mel's mason partner

They were protectors of each other while the other one lived

It appears they could be blocked or otherwise disrupted

I talked to Mel on D4 (I think? I'm all messed up by the night that didn't happen) at which point the suspicions I had about their role were confirmed.

vmh and I were the only people who knew the extent of their role

The weirdness that I was referencing is that they apparently had separate PMs in addition to a mason thread (AM you can confirm or refute this); it made Mel a little worried that she could be converted. I can quote it.

HOWEVER in my opinion today she has been acting entirely consistent with how she has been acting all game. Hence I do not think she was converted.
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So, Pippy for original and AM for convert?

Pippy would <totally> convert a mason, planning to later use that as evidence of villagerness.
 
I would appreciate it if wolves could kill me tonight; I am going into finals and have spent waaaay too many hours on this game over the last 2 days lol

Since the info is already on the thread anyways...

My ability is that I can PM people. I picked (in order):

AM
genny
Mel (also PMed with vmh extensively this day because of the open PMs)
MJ
Dubz

Other details, since we're getting to end game and I feel that it is less useful to conceal this stuff at this point in time...

- I was affiliation seered by genny on N2 (maybe N3? -- again, the night cancel is messing me up) via an item. That is the brief exchange I had with her on the thread about "the thing that happened" (I first thought I didn't get night results; turns out I hadn't seen them yet). So I started the game as village. Same general rules apply to me about being a convert, I suppose, but keep in mind that it would have been incredibly stupid for me to authorize kills on genny and mel given previous arguments I've put on the thread, and I have known about AM and mel since he brought up that he knew my role. --> So, not an original; decide for yourself if you think I'm a convert (but don't decide wrong 😛 )

- I gave MJ the info about Mel's role because vmh asked me to share her targets via PM channel; he agreed it sounded like chaos

- Dubz now knows MJ's role name. It is not particularly wolfy sounding imo

- I know dubz's role name. Am tempted to share it on the thread because it is skeeeetch despite her claims to the contrary

- Dubz & MJ both know my role name; I can guarantee it is not a sketch character.

- Sporty's protest of my dumb attempt to get someone to admit to being seered by vmh makes me want to lean her village (because I was also seered by vmh, on N1, and can confirm there was no seering message).
 
WildZoo said:
Scratch this actually, I did the math wrong. I still think it would be 4.
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Ok, ignore my previous comment.

4:1 is ok (but still stronger wolf-favor than I personally like). But when you had it at 3:1 ... ouch. That's overtly wolf leaning and unfair to the village.
 
Melchizedek said:
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For a pair of mods who claim to be so bloodthirsty there’s not a lot of dying in this game huh?
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It's like kaydubs has lost her edge.

Not surprised about kara, though. Lots of people throw down the mod-glove, but not many follow through.

Kaydubs has a history of following through, though. Which, as another mod that is willing to annihilate players, I totes approve.
 
allieh8607 said:
Wtf.

I am so confused. I should be dead. Legit was reading the thread and saw the vote switch to me towards the end and thought “thank god, they’re putting me out of my misery” and I honestly have nooo idea why I’m still alive. So serious....swear on my kitties.
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Thank you for pluralizing kitties so I didn't have to naughty-eye that one.

But seriously, is that the best you've got? "Huh, wow, how did that happen?" Like, has that defense ever worked for anyone?
 
PippyPony said:
I would appreciate it if wolves could kill me tonight; I am going into finals and have spent waaaay too many hours on this game over the last 2 days lol

Since the info is already on the thread anyways...

My ability is that I can PM people. I picked (in order):

AM
genny
Mel (also PMed with vmh extensively this day because of the open PMs)
MJ
Dubz

Other details, since we're getting to end game and I feel that it is less useful to conceal this stuff at this point in time...

- I was affiliation seered by genny on N2 (maybe N3? -- again, the night cancel is messing me up) via an item. That is the brief exchange I had with her on the thread about "the thing that happened" (I first thought I didn't get night results; turns out I hadn't seen them yet). So I started the game as village. Same general rules apply to me about being a convert, I suppose, but keep in mind that it would have been incredibly stupid for me to authorize kills on genny and mel given previous arguments I've put on the thread, and I have known about AM and mel since he brought up that he knew my role. --> So, not an original; decide for yourself if you think I'm a convert (but don't decide wrong 😛 )

- I gave MJ the info about Mel's role because vmh asked me to share her targets via PM channel; he agreed it sounded like chaos

- Dubz now knows MJ's role name. It is not particularly wolfy sounding imo

- I know dubz's role name. Am tempted to share it on the thread because it is skeeeetch despite her claims to the contrary

- Dubz & MJ both know my role name; I can guarantee it is not a sketch character.

- Sporty's protest of my dumb attempt to get someone to admit to being seered by vmh makes me want to lean her village (because I was also seered by vmh, on N1, and can confirm there was no seering message).
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And allie falls where in all of this? What do you think of allie after that last lynch?
 
LetItSnow said:
Thank you for pluralizing kitties so I didn't have to naughty-eye that one.

But seriously, is that the best you've got? "Huh, wow, how did that happen?" Like, has that defense ever worked for anyone?
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:shrug:
I literally don’t know how else to defend myself against this, my confusion is the honest truth. I’m not just trying to be cute here. If anything I’m glad I got you guys another cycle, I’m sure you’ll all lynch me again tomorrow and you will all be shocked that I’m a villager. Or wolves pull an idiot move and convert me tonight.
 
DVMDream said:
This late in the game, especially with no one really being 100% clear this doesn't work for me and shouldn't for anyone else. I asked the same LIS did....why?
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LetItSnow said:
(Which isn't to say you have to answer me, cause I can't force anything. But it does mean that without actual spelled-out reasons, I'm going to ignore the vouch or soft-vouch.)
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Simply because I would hate to see Teeps lynched and village lose because of it, here we go.

I was given the ability to affiliation seer two people as mayor. I looked into Dubz on night 1 (village), which puts Pippy's concern about her role name to rest. She started village at the very least. This is also why I said early in the game, "I don't like this WZ lynch."

I affiliation seered Teeps immediately after he came back. Also village. He was not resurrected as a wolf.
 
PippyPony said:
It is literally the main point of the role.

Mason - MafiaWiki
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For WW here, I've never seen a situation where a mason can't be converted. The purpose here for ww has been it is a group of villagers or two villagers that know each other started village but no guarantee what happens during the game.
 
SportPonies said:
Simply because I would hate to see Teeps lynched and village lose because of it, here we go.

I was given the ability to affiliation seer two people as mayor. I looked into Dubz on night 1 (village), which puts Pippy's concern about her role name to rest. She started village at the very least. This is also why I said early in the game, "I don't like this WZ lynch."

I affiliation seered Teeps immediately after he came back. Also village. He was not resurrected as a wolf.
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Thanks. Definitely helps.

But also questions why you haven't stopped Pippy's crazy on DubZ
 
SportPonies said:
Simply because I would hate to see Teeps lynched and village lose because of it, here we go.

I was given the ability to affiliation seer two people as mayor. I looked into Dubz on night 1 (village), which puts Pippy's concern about her role name to rest. She started village at the very least. This is also why I said early in the game, "I don't like this WZ lynch."

I affiliation seered Teeps immediately after he came back. Also village. He was not resurrected as a wolf.
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I buy this.

In my mind, then, we should be looking at:
- Allie
- MJ
- Possible LIS convert
- Possible DVMD rez-as-wolf
- Possible dubz convert
- Much less likely AM convert
 
DVMDream said:
Thanks. Definitely helps.

But also questions why you haven't stopped Pippy's crazy on DubZ
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I can't say that Dubz wasn't converted, which is part of why I've stayed quiet. I'm pretty convinced she's still village, but have been staying low to listen to what everyone has to say about it and make sure I'm not just completely disregarding Dubz as a possible convert.
 
SportPonies said:
I can't say that Dubz wasn't converted, which is part of why I've stayed quiet. I'm pretty convinced she's still village, but have been staying low to listen to what everyone has to say about it and make sure I'm not just completely disregarding Dubz as a possible convert.
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Makes sense but at least help Pippy's paranoia on the original wolf aspect for WZ.
 
LetItSnow said:
Ok, ignore my previous comment.

4:1 is ok (but still stronger wolf-favor than I personally like). But when you had it at 3:1 ... ouch. That's overtly wolf leaning and unfair to the village.
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I always mess up and do 1/4 instead of 1:4 because I'm a dumb. Usually correct it when I'm actually designing a game...usually 😉
 
DVMDream said:
Since forever. There's never been a rule that I've seen that says a mason can't be converted.
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LetItSnow said:
Like always. I can't remember a game here where a mason couldn't be converted. Specific to kaydubs or any other game. I definitely could be missing one, but at the very least, the majority of games don't protect a mason from conversion.
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You guys are just tag-teaming so much sketchy nonsense over the last 36 hours that I am seriously already tempted to go back to lynching one of you.

Let me enjoy my tunnel of dubz lol
 
PippyPony said:
You guys are just tag-teaming so much sketchy nonsense over the last 36 hours that I am seriously already tempted to go back to lynching one of you.

Let me enjoy my tunnel of dubz lol
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Dude we're WW old farts, we're going to have similar recollections of how the game ran in the good ol' days. 😉
 
PippyPony said:
The thing that I asked her to talk about and that you're already trying to shove down people's throats as sketchtastic? Nah I'm going to wait for her to say some more stuff, I think.

Why? Running out of candidates, are you? 😛
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You asked her to talk about something?

And I'm not trying to shove anything down anyone's throat... ???

I'm asking your thoughts on allie because you made a giant ****ing list about everyone but didn't include her. Why is that odd or sketchy?
 
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WildZoo said:
Why resist?
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Because on here, I have a constant reminder that we're all aspiring/current healthcare professionals and have some sort of couth.
If this was MafiaScum.net I would have absolutely gone ahead and made the joke.
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PippyPony said:
It is literally the main point of the role.

Mason - MafiaWiki
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First, MafiaWiki isn't necessarily how things have been classically implemented here.

Second, I don't see in that particular wiki entry where it talks about conversion.

Here, at least, it's typically been implemented to mean that you know that your mason counterpart started the game as villager.

But it has never, to my recollection, meant they can't be converted.

If you want to start arguing semantics with regard to the name of the 'role', fine, but getting back here to the reality of this game on this forum ... I cannot think of a time it inherently meant your partner could not be converted.
 
DVMDream said:
For WW here, I've never seen a situation where a mason can't be converted. The purpose here for ww has been it is a group of villagers or two villagers that know each other started village but no guarantee what happens during the game.
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I'm just going to quit responding and let DVMD speak for me.

Don't interpret this as me thinking she's village.
 
PippyPony said:
You guys are just tag-teaming so much sketchy nonsense over the last 36 hours that I am seriously already tempted to go back to lynching one of you.

Let me enjoy my tunnel of dubz lol
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If it helps, it's kinda creeping me out that I keep reading the thread - posting a reply to something - and then seeing that DVMD ninja'd me.
 
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