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My theory was always that conversion severed the protection and that the redirect was fake. Like I said, just hadn't scrutinized the timing enough.
If teep isn't a wolf, you'll be wasting two lynches on rezzes which will allow the wolves that much closer to win.
Except it wasn’t. I’m a villager.Sweet one of my early suspicions was good.
If one of the rezzes is a wolf, it's DVMD
Either teep is telling the truth and we're both villagers or teep was rezzed by a wolf since no one is claiming his rez either. I have no way to tell other than to lynch teep. But damn if we're both villagers that really ****ing wastes two lynches for the village. Because as I'm seeing it now, no one is going to believe either of us.
Now I'm regretting asking to come back as it was worse for the village than I though it would be.
Sorry AM but I'm going to fully out the info I have on you.
So, for everyone who is not actually reading the thread:
AM is Mel's mason partner
They were protectors of each other while the other one lived
It appears they could be blocked or otherwise disrupted
I talked to Mel on D4 (I think? I'm all messed up by the night that didn't happen) at which point the suspicions I had about their role were confirmed.
vmh and I were the only people who knew the extent of their role
The weirdness that I was referencing is that they apparently had separate PMs in addition to a mason thread (AM you can confirm or refute this); it made Mel a little worried that she could be converted. I can quote it.
HOWEVER in my opinion today she has been acting entirely consistent with how she has been acting all game. Hence I do not think she was converted.
So, Pippy for original and AM for convert?
Pippy would <totally> convert a mason, planning to later use that as evidence of villagerness.
at risk of sounding like AM... ~reasons~Why's that?
Can you tell me how many games allow masons to be converted?
Lol yeah no.So, Pippy for original and AM for convert?
Pippy would <totally> convert a mason, planning to later use that as evidence of villagerness.
Lol since whenUm.... all of them?
20 person game, 5 wolves would be my upper limit based strictly on numbers and not taking ability balancing into account.
But like, what an ending right???![]()
Scratch this actually, I did the math wrong. I still think it would be 4.
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For a pair of mods who claim to be so bloodthirsty there’s not a lot of dying in this game huh?
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Wtf.
I am so confused. I should be dead. Legit was reading the thread and saw the vote switch to me towards the end and thought “thank god, they’re putting me out of my misery” and I honestly have nooo idea why I’m still alive. So serious....swear on my kitties.
at risk of sounding like AM... ~reasons~
at risk of sounding like AM... ~reasons~
at risk of sounding like AM... ~reasons~
Lol yeah no.
Lol since when
I would appreciate it if wolves could kill me tonight; I am going into finals and have spent waaaay too many hours on this game over the last 2 days lol
Since the info is already on the thread anyways...
My ability is that I can PM people. I picked (in order):
AM
genny
Mel (also PMed with vmh extensively this day because of the open PMs)
MJ
Dubz
Other details, since we're getting to end game and I feel that it is less useful to conceal this stuff at this point in time...
- I was affiliation seered by genny on N2 (maybe N3? -- again, the night cancel is messing me up) via an item. That is the brief exchange I had with her on the thread about "the thing that happened" (I first thought I didn't get night results; turns out I hadn't seen them yet). So I started the game as village. Same general rules apply to me about being a convert, I suppose, but keep in mind that it would have been incredibly stupid for me to authorize kills on genny and mel given previous arguments I've put on the thread, and I have known about AM and mel since he brought up that he knew my role. --> So, not an original; decide for yourself if you think I'm a convert (but don't decide wrong 😛 )
- I gave MJ the info about Mel's role because vmh asked me to share her targets via PM channel; he agreed it sounded like chaos
- Dubz now knows MJ's role name. It is not particularly wolfy sounding imo
- I know dubz's role name. Am tempted to share it on the thread because it is skeeeetch despite her claims to the contrary
- Dubz & MJ both know my role name; I can guarantee it is not a sketch character.
- Sporty's protest of my dumb attempt to get someone to admit to being seered by vmh makes me want to lean her village (because I was also seered by vmh, on N1, and can confirm there was no seering message).
Lol yeah no.
Lol since when
It is literally the main point of the role.Since forever. There's never been a rule that I've seen that says a mason can't be converted.
Thank you for pluralizing kitties so I didn't have to naughty-eye that one.
But seriously, is that the best you've got? "Huh, wow, how did that happen?" Like, has that defense ever worked for anyone?
This late in the game, especially with no one really being 100% clear this doesn't work for me and shouldn't for anyone else. I asked the same LIS did....why?
Simply because I would hate to see Teeps lynched and village lose because of it, here we go.(Which isn't to say you have to answer me, cause I can't force anything. But it does mean that without actual spelled-out reasons, I'm going to ignore the vouch or soft-vouch.)
Simply because I would hate to see Teeps lynched and village lose because of it, here we go.
I was given the ability to affiliation seer two people as mayor. I looked into Dubz on night 1 (village), which puts Pippy's concern about her role name to rest. She started village at the very least. This is also why I said early in the game, "I don't like this WZ lynch."
I affiliation seered Teeps immediately after he came back. Also village. He was not resurrected as a wolf.
I buy this.Simply because I would hate to see Teeps lynched and village lose because of it, here we go.
I was given the ability to affiliation seer two people as mayor. I looked into Dubz on night 1 (village), which puts Pippy's concern about her role name to rest. She started village at the very least. This is also why I said early in the game, "I don't like this WZ lynch."
I affiliation seered Teeps immediately after he came back. Also village. He was not resurrected as a wolf.
I can't say that Dubz wasn't converted, which is part of why I've stayed quiet. I'm pretty convinced she's still village, but have been staying low to listen to what everyone has to say about it and make sure I'm not just completely disregarding Dubz as a possible convert.Thanks. Definitely helps.
But also questions why you haven't stopped Pippy's crazy on DubZ
I can't say that Dubz wasn't converted, which is part of why I've stayed quiet. I'm pretty convinced she's still village, but have been staying low to listen to what everyone has to say about it and make sure I'm not just completely disregarding Dubz as a possible convert.
I always mess up and do 1/4 instead of 1:4 because I'm a dumb. Usually correct it when I'm actually designing a game...usually 😉Ok, ignore my previous comment.
4:1 is ok (but still stronger wolf-favor than I personally like). But when you had it at 3:1 ... ouch. That's overtly wolf leaning and unfair to the village.
Since forever. There's never been a rule that I've seen that says a mason can't be converted.
Like always. I can't remember a game here where a mason couldn't be converted. Specific to kaydubs or any other game. I definitely could be missing one, but at the very least, the majority of games don't protect a mason from conversion.
You guys are just tag-teaming so much sketchy nonsense over the last 36 hours that I am seriously already tempted to go back to lynching one of you.
Let me enjoy my tunnel of dubz lol
The thing that I asked her to talk about and that you're already trying to shove down people's throats as sketchtastic? Nah I'm going to wait for her to say some more stuff, I think.@PippyPony are you going to answer me on what you think of what just happened with allie?
ohhh man, resisting the temptation to be outright crass here.Let me enjoy my tunnel of dubz lol
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ohhh man, resisting the temptation to be outright crass here.
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The thing that I asked her to talk about and that you're already trying to shove down people's throats as sketchtastic? Nah I'm going to wait for her to say some more stuff, I think.
Why? Running out of candidates, are you? 😛
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ohhh man, resisting the temptation to be outright crass here.
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Since when have games around here followed the mechanics of roles as originally intended?
Because on here, I have a constant reminder that we're all aspiring/current healthcare professionals and have some sort of couth.Why resist?
Do you want me to go and pull literally every post I have seen in the past year about this role on this site? Because I will do it.Since when have games around here followed the mechanics of roles as originally intended?
Hell "masons" don't even always start as the same affiliation...
For WW here, I've never seen a situation where a mason can't be converted. The purpose here for ww has been it is a group of villagers or two villagers that know each other started village but no guarantee what happens during the game.
You guys are just tag-teaming so much sketchy nonsense over the last 36 hours that I am seriously already tempted to go back to lynching one of you.
Let me enjoy my tunnel of dubz lol