StardeWW Valley - GAME THREAD

[bluestoat]

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I can get the surface feeling that he's being wolfy, I just (from a meta standpoint) can't see him acting so wildly different from his baseline as a wolf. I believe him when he says he wanted to try powervillaging.

What's your image of his wolf meta?

 

[WildZoo]

What's your image of his wolf meta?

Tends to hang out in the background more, doesn't usually take the lead on pushing reads, a bit less uhhhh reactive? to things people say about/to him

 

[samac]

I'm pretty sure you're V, although I can't speak to Cubs.

In your case, your enthusiasm for not being a wolf anymore came across as very genuine to me

Calling us sus and v/v in the same breath is weird

Your interactions felt sus. Like in criminal minds WW (when I thought you were speaking in code or doing a lie detector on him). You proved out to be v/v then, so I am giving that a slight nod towards village. If cubs doesn't ping someone then I get a little worried about him.

you were wolf there tho so I’m not sure your interpretation of sus in that game counts for much

 

[Truenamer]

Calling us sus and v/v in the same breath is weird

That wasn't me, you're getting people mixed up.

 

[Truenamer]

I can get the surface feeling that he's being wolfy, I just (from a meta standpoint) can't see him acting so wildly different from his baseline as a wolf. I believe him when he says he wanted to try powervillaging.

I'm not getting strong wolf vibes from Cubs, but for the sake of argument, if you were wolfing wouldn't a great cover for changed behavior be "hey guys, I'm trying out a different style of being a villager this time, I'll be acting differently!"

 

[bluestoat]

I'm not getting strong wolf vibes from Cubs, but for the sake of argument, if you were wolfing wouldn't a great cover for changed behavior be "hey guys, I'm trying out a different style of being a villager this time, I'll be acting differently!"

*Flashbacks to Zenge*

 

[WildZoo]

I'm not getting strong wolf vibes from Cubs, but for the sake of argument, if you were wolfing wouldn't a great cover for changed behavior be "hey guys, I'm trying out a different style of being a villager this time, I'll be acting differently!"

Sure. It's enough for D1 for me though. I try not to get too deep into the WIFOM weeds unless I have to.

 

[Dana_May_B]

i just reread the thread because i thought that taking notes could help me gain some confidence with my reads! i have a few questions:

- why is zenge so high up on a lot of people's village lists? namely @potentialsheltervet , @cubsrule4e and @bluestoat i think are the three who said they are village reading him. im not wolf reading him or anything, i was just genuinely surprised seeing people village read him so quickly when i didn't have many notes on him

- @potentialsheltervet where would genny land on your reads list? you forgot to add her

- @Truenamer has your view of AM being 85-90% village changed since her kdswg yeet last night?

 

[Truenamer]

i just reread the thread because i thought that taking notes could help me gain some confidence with my reads! i have a few questions:

- why is zenge so high up on a lot of people's village lists? namely @potentialsheltervet , @cubsrule4e and @bluestoat i think are the three who said they are village reading him. im not wolf reading him or anything, i was just genuinely surprised seeing people village read him so quickly when i didn't have many notes on him

- @potentialsheltervet where would genny land on your reads list? you forgot to add her

- @Truenamer has your view of AM being 85-90% village changed since her kdswg yeet last night?

I'd like to state for the record that I am mostly joking about the AM read, I did the same thing at the beginning of the last game.

With that said, she doesn't feel any different. Maybe slightly more reserved.

 

[samac]

That wasn't me, you're getting people mixed up.

No, I know, it was bob. I was pointing out why I thought his comment was weird.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Let's see

samac and cubs still feel village, and I have more tentative village points for True, Zenge, and Barks.

I haven't felt The Genny Way (TM) but I'm not inclined to vote there today...just concerned that I haven't had the initial village feels that I got from her (and AM) very quickly last game.

The kdswg vote feels like false pings on sketchy nooblet behavior. AM and Dana's additions to that wagon felt off. I wouldn't think they're both wolves, but perhaps one or the other. Not voting Dana today because noob, unless I get triggered more.

Won't be voting for Bob, sporty is as sporty does, and stoat I keep changing my mind on.

Time to see how this feels

unyeet sporty yeet AM

I'll remember that.

 

[WildZoo]

I'll remember that.

Good

 

[Animal Midwife]

@WildZoo Why do you think Dana is Wolfy?

 

[Truenamer]

@WildZoo Why do you think Dana is Wolfy?

I'm not Dubz but she got a couple points in my books for her first few posts being a bit... frenetic?

 

[Animal Midwife]

I'm not Dubz but she got a couple points in my books for her first few posts being a bit... frenetic?

I'd like to hear from dubz, specifically.

 

[WildZoo]

@WildZoo Why do you think Dana is Wolfy?

Feel like I've already talked about it, but initial ping with the schedule overexplanation, additional ping with how she joined the kdswg wagon - felt like she waited to see if it was a generally acceptable vote before going there.

Could all be nooby nerves though so not enough for me to break my d1 rule.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Feel like I've already talked about it, but initial ping with the schedule overexplanation, additional ping with how she joined the kdswg wagon - felt like she waited to see if it was a generally acceptable vote before going there.

Could all be nooby nerves though so not enough for me to break my d1 rule.

Alright. I actually thought that all looked villagey for someone who just came off a wolf game.

 

[cubsrule4e]

i just reread the thread because i thought that taking notes could help me gain some confidence with my reads! i have a few questions:

- why is zenge so high up on a lot of people's village lists? namely @potentialsheltervet , @cubsrule4e and @bluestoat i think are the three who said they are village reading him. im not wolf reading him or anything, i was just genuinely surprised seeing people village read him so quickly when i didn't have many notes on him

- @potentialsheltervet where would genny land on your reads list? you forgot to add her

- @Truenamer has your view of AM being 85-90% village changed since her kdswg yeet last night?

Not really village reading, neutral at worst, maybe village side of neutral. Nothing really standing out to me. He's also been "caring" me at the appropriate normal rate lol.

 

[WildZoo]

Alright. I actually thought that all looked villagey for someone who just came off a wolf game.

Why?

 

[Zenge142]

given the fact that kdswg has posted only 3 times, i honestly dont have a strong opinion at all. but from their very limited posts, i have them more of a neutral lean than village.

heres what im thinking: im sensing the cubs/samac interactions are v/v and i am also kinda weirded out by kdswg's limited posts. i think its safe to place my vote here, knowing full well that im more than willing to move it if i get a good response from kdswg. i also have to admit that AM's reply to my post saying that voting earlier will help prevent a tie sounds like good logic to me, so that's why im voting even though im not too confident about this.

yeet kdswg

Can you clarify what changed between these two posts?

 

[SportPonies]

are you guys ready for a Sporty pbpa today?

I hope @Animal Midwife in particular is excited.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Why?

It makes little sense to come in that nervous when she succeeded last time and no one was talking about voting her. Looks more like she understands village disorientation for the first time.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I feel like theres a wolf somewhere in kds, dana, and stoat, not just for the "prior game" stuff, just the overall interactions between them. Call it feels I guess if you have to.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Samac samac
A thread attack
Better amp up your game
Cause cubs is Back!

 

[Dana_May_B]

Can you clarify what changed between these two posts?

yeah of course! i don’t want to come across as over explaining but here was my exact thought process:
i kept thinking back to what AM told me about placing an early vote actually helping to prevent a tie. in my head, i decided i wanted to place a vote, even if it wasn’t confident with it
looking at my options, i was thinking that out of the 3 main vote getters (kdswg, dubz and cubs) a vote with kdswg made the most sense for a few reasons
- i am village reading cubs so i don’t want to vote there
- samac and cubs, two people i am village reading, were the two votes already on kdswg
- i had no idea how to feel about dubz or the two people voting her (sporty and bob)

so yeah i didn’t feel comfortable or confident to say kdswg is truly wolfy, but i did decide that i wanted to place a vote and so voting for her made the most sense for me out of what options i saw. and like i said before, i’m more than willing to move if i see a compelling argument elsewhere

 

[cubsrule4e]

Why?

I know youre hesitatnt to vote kds, but do you have a read there? Still in neutrals? How do you feel about her (like if it were D2 would you consider a vote there?), dana (earlier said some slight feels with the pop ins but nothing really substantial), and stoat?

 

[potentialsheltervet]

Maeby. Jk. Yes it is. Best show ever!

Best three seasons of a show ever, and we don't speak of the rest.

Oh I forgot shelter. Uhhhhh.

Same

i just reread the thread because i thought that taking notes could help me gain some confidence with my reads! i have a few questions:

- why is zenge so high up on a lot of people's village lists? namely @potentialsheltervet , @cubsrule4e and @bluestoat i think are the three who said they are village reading him. im not wolf reading him or anything, i was just genuinely surprised seeing people village read him so quickly when i didn't have many notes on him

- @potentialsheltervet where would genny land on your reads list? you forgot to add her

- @Truenamer has your view of AM being 85-90% village changed since her kdswg yeet last night?

"Haven't seen enough of genny to form an opinion." I'd probably stick her in yellow for that reason.
Re: zenge, having wolfed with zenge the last game he just seems different. I can't exactly explain why but he seems somewhat bolder on thread, like he was more careful as a wolf.

 

[WildZoo]

I know youre hesitatnt to vote kds, but do you have a read there? Still in neutrals? How do you feel about her (like if it were D2 would you consider a vote there?), dana (earlier said some slight feels with the pop ins but nothing really substantial), and stoat?

I literally talked about all of them in my post earlier lol Dana has a couple wolf points, kds and stoat neutral

 

[WildZoo]

It makes little sense to come in that nervous when she succeeded last time and no one was talking about voting her. Looks more like she understands village disorientation for the first time.

I could see this but I'm not sure I could 100% attribute it to village disorientation given that wolfing in a regular game is going to feel different from wolfing in a noob game too.

 

[samac]

Samac samac
A thread attack
Better amp up your game
Cause cubs is Back!

I’m working as an ice storm rolls in
I plan on being back?
I think?
My goal is to get in and get out today.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I literally talked about all of them in my post earlier lol Dana has a couple wolf points, kds and stoat neutral

Oh, I shall go investigate.

 

[cubsrule4e]

I literally talked about all of them in my post earlier lol Dana has a couple wolf points, kds and stoat neutral

So the "false pings" on kds means a neutral read? Or leaning village?

 

[WildZoo]

So the "false pings" on kds means a neutral read? Or leaning village?

It means neutral. I think the things have been pointed out so far are NAI.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Maybe this could describe the current day/night cycle time oddity

Spoiler

 

[bluestoat]

It makes little sense to come in that nervous when she succeeded last time and no one was talking about voting her. Looks more like she understands village disorientation for the first time.

Imo that's just an easy tone for her to find, it feels like D1 in her other game too. NAI for me. Like, she went on my vote, but first had a post where she was hesitant to hop on it without more input from me. Could be a Dubz situation where (I'm told) she has similar voices as a wolf or villager.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Imo that's just an easy tone for her to find, it feels like D1 in her other game too. NAI for me. Like, she went on my vote, but first had a post where she was hesitant to hop on it without more input from me. Could be a Dubz situation where (I'm told) she has similar voices as a wolf or villager.

I didn't think she sounded particularly village in the noob game.

 

[bluestoat]

But I wouldn't wolf read Dana on spare information. Regarding Zenge @Dana_May_B I felt through the other game that he was wolfy-- maybe because of our D1 interaction where he pressed to know some of my reads without volunteering information of his own?-- and even when I accepted the Dubz vote trends as a weird tell, I was pretty openly like "uh feels like I'm choosing to ignore a wolf but the trend is what it is, must be village."

As strongly as he aroused that kind of suspicion, he just as strongly feels secure and "I'm a villager, moving on, looking for wolves" in this game.

 

[bluestoat]

I didn't think she sounded particularly village in the noob game.

A difference of opinion. Her D1 play did not catch any interest from me one way or another, similar to her style here. It was the evolution of her posts and tone that was more eye-catching. So for me, still NAI.

 

[WildZoo]

@Animal Midwife how are you feeling about the non-nooblets so far?

 

[Animal Midwife]

A difference of opinion. Her D1 play did not catch any interest from me one way or another, similar to her style here. It was the evolution of her posts and tone that was more eye-catching. So for me, still NAI.

I guess I'm just confused why this is even being brought up if you're not wolf reading Dana.

 

[bluestoat]

I feel like theres a wolf somewhere in kds, dana, and stoat, not just for the "prior game" stuff, just the overall interactions between them. Call it feels I guess if you have to.

Do you have better information on this? I am of course accustomed to being ~wolfy~ so I won't try to convince you otherwise unless you try to yeet me. However-- I simply don't see eye to eye with this list. None of these three are outside of my neutrals, so is there anything more than "vibes"?

Re: stoat: I accept aggro!stoat as what's pinging you about me. Allow me to help this condition by being even more assertive 😛

 

[WildZoo]

I'm coming for you @samac 😉

And to stoat: nice

 

[bluestoat]

I guess I'm just confused why this is even being brought up if you're not wolf reading Dana.

Aside from watching the conversation between you and Dubz with some interest: Because if I see rationale that I don't necessarily agree with, but which may produce more data if pressed, then I will push a little. Then I can see if something is said that changes my mind or if a viewpoint I haven't considered is on someone else's mind.

 

[Animal Midwife]

@Animal Midwife how are you feeling about the non-nooblets so far?

samac
Barks
cubs
Sporty
Zenge
Bob
genny
dubz

 

[Animal Midwife]

Aside from watching the conversation between you and Dubz with some interest: Because if I see rationale that I don't necessarily agree with, but which may produce more data if pressed, then I will push a little. Then I can see if something is said that changes my mind or if a viewpoint I haven't considered is on someone else's mind.

What did you gain from our exchange?

 

[bluestoat]

What did you gain from our exchange?

Not much. I was hoping for some insight that would push me one way or another on you or Dubz primarily, and secondarily on Dana if you had something really concrete for a village read. I am watching Dubz's reads with continued interest, but no personal desire to pursue the same track.

As it is: I snuffled around for interesting smells and didn't come up with anything new.

 

[Barkley13]

I feel like theres a wolf somewhere in kds, dana, and stoat, not just for the "prior game" stuff, just the overall interactions between them. Call it feels I guess if you have to.

Are you feeling more strongly about any of them over the others?

 

[Truenamer]

samac
Barks
cubs
Sporty
Zenge
Bob
genny
dubz

Very curious about your Dubz reasoning, she's near the top of my "probably village" list at the moment.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Very curious about your Dubz reasoning, she's near the top of my "probably village" list at the moment.

She knows better than to push me D1 for pushing someone she's not even village reading.

 

[cubsrule4e]

Are you feeling more strongly about any of them over the others?

Kds still feels more like the right vote, even though Aggro!Stout feels pingy as well. Dana is kind of an enigma floating around in there. I thought all these votes would bring out more of a kds defense, so still monitoring that.