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The 7th gWWuest - Game thread!
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Black Kat
Im smol
As in from sure / unsure
Yeah figured.
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Also in the next cycle I think everything should be laid out on the table. I promise to reveal my secrets and if anyone else has any they should just throw them down in the next day cycle with where we will be. Not now. I just want that out there for people to ruminate on.
Mkay g’night
Yes.
I’d like one from you and moon actually
OKAY IF IM BACK SLAP ME I NEED SLEEP
And CG and SaR
Yeah probably
FINE FINE YOURE NOT MY DAD YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
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I’ve had to work all day rip
Please don’t forget your legacies thank you
I think this day cycle would be a good time for people to role reveal. Also I basically threw my prior reads out the window and re-evaluated everyone, mostly focusing on how AM treated them because at this point I firmly believe there is a wolf in the village reads. I highly recommend that you all do the same. I have posts incoming that have the interactions between AM and other players and one that evaluates who could be partners with each other and AM. The only players I left out of this were CG and SAR because I still think they are cleared by AM's presumed role copping of them.
basille - I really think she's village (or at least not a wolf) based on the interactions she had with AM. See AM and basille interactions post.
CG - I am considering clear due to the seer notification AND the way AM tried to get her voted out.
Clem - There is nothing unpairing him from AM with the exception of his reply to her question about a doctor to save her from the poisoning which I don’t fully understand but could be a reference to a PR? Please re evaluate him and try to figure out his role.
SAR - For now I still think the “eyes peering into your soul” claim is clearing. I wouldn’t vote her out.
moon - nothing unpairing her from AM. However, a lot of the other players who could be paired with AM (namely Clem, Kat, and chilly) I feel probably aren't paired with moon, mostly due to moon's read lists. Clem, Kat, and AM in particular are pretty much always in her town reads and I just don't think it's likely that wolf!moon puts all her packmates in townreads/townleans on D1. Also I feel like she soft RR'd earlier? Make sure you figure out her role. Proceed with caution, but I'd look into other players on this list first.
samac - there is nothing unpairing between Alex, samac, and AM, which is to be expected. I'm not saying samac is a wolf because of that; however, it would be smart to be constantly re evaluating this slot. I don't know that I would jump to voting samac out right now though. See if she lives through the night cycles and then decide.
Kat - I feel like she's softly unpaired from AM; however, I’d re evaluate her and potentially go back to the casino 2 game and see how she treated me and apop in that game. (For context we were all wolves together). I can't decide if how she treated AM is AI or not.
chilly - I am a little afraid they are TWTBW and I don't know that AM would go for 2 days kind of ignoring her packmate on thread. However, that doesn't change the fact that there is nothing unpairing between them and AM and I feel like they overall have been a little sketchy (re: read list stuff yesterday, namely about Clem). Also it is not lost on me that they did not go over yesterday even though they were tied and (correct me if I'm wrong) but there have almost always been a couple votes on them but they've never flipped. Just food for thought.
basille - I really think she's village (or at least not a wolf) based on the interactions she had with AM. See AM and basille interactions post.
CG - I am considering clear due to the seer notification AND the way AM tried to get her voted out.
Clem - There is nothing unpairing him from AM with the exception of his reply to her question about a doctor to save her from the poisoning which I don’t fully understand but could be a reference to a PR? Please re evaluate him and try to figure out his role.
SAR - For now I still think the “eyes peering into your soul” claim is clearing. I wouldn’t vote her out.
moon - nothing unpairing her from AM. However, a lot of the other players who could be paired with AM (namely Clem, Kat, and chilly) I feel probably aren't paired with moon, mostly due to moon's read lists. Clem, Kat, and AM in particular are pretty much always in her town reads and I just don't think it's likely that wolf!moon puts all her packmates in townreads/townleans on D1. Also I feel like she soft RR'd earlier? Make sure you figure out her role. Proceed with caution, but I'd look into other players on this list first.
samac - there is nothing unpairing between Alex, samac, and AM, which is to be expected. I'm not saying samac is a wolf because of that; however, it would be smart to be constantly re evaluating this slot. I don't know that I would jump to voting samac out right now though. See if she lives through the night cycles and then decide.
Kat - I feel like she's softly unpaired from AM; however, I’d re evaluate her and potentially go back to the casino 2 game and see how she treated me and apop in that game. (For context we were all wolves together). I can't decide if how she treated AM is AI or not.
chilly - I am a little afraid they are TWTBW and I don't know that AM would go for 2 days kind of ignoring her packmate on thread. However, that doesn't change the fact that there is nothing unpairing between them and AM and I feel like they overall have been a little sketchy (re: read list stuff yesterday, namely about Clem). Also it is not lost on me that they did not go over yesterday even though they were tied and (correct me if I'm wrong) but there have almost always been a couple votes on them but they've never flipped. Just food for thought.
AM's early take on basille. NAI.
Back and forth between AM and basille on the AM D1 katie vote. I kinda don't think noob wolf!basille questions packmate AM like this?
More chatter between AM and basille close to EOD 1 - I don't think this is a conversation that would be happening on thread between packmates. If basille really was AM's packmate, I think she wouldn't have to be asking for clarification on if the D1 vote was an election or a yeet. (Also worth mentioning here that basille was a bit confused about the "yeet" terminology - potentially because the resources she was looking at didn't use that term).
Some more gentle questioning between AM and basille - AM asks basille about apop, basille asks AM about her CG vote over genny. NAI.
The back and forth where AM tries to sus out if basille was having someone (older packmate) write posts for her. I know I've mentioned this previously but I just don't see a world in which AM was having this conversation with her packmate WHILE SAID PACKMATE WAS TIED FOR YEET CLOSE TO EOD. I'm actually not sure AM has this conversation with a packmate at all.
Back and forth between AM and basille on the AM D1 katie vote. I kinda don't think noob wolf!basille questions packmate AM like this?
More chatter between AM and basille close to EOD 1 - I don't think this is a conversation that would be happening on thread between packmates. If basille really was AM's packmate, I think she wouldn't have to be asking for clarification on if the D1 vote was an election or a yeet. (Also worth mentioning here that basille was a bit confused about the "yeet" terminology - potentially because the resources she was looking at didn't use that term).
Some more gentle questioning between AM and basille - AM asks basille about apop, basille asks AM about her CG vote over genny. NAI.
The back and forth where AM tries to sus out if basille was having someone (older packmate) write posts for her. I know I've mentioned this previously but I just don't see a world in which AM was having this conversation with her packmate WHILE SAID PACKMATE WAS TIED FOR YEET CLOSE TO EOD. I'm actually not sure AM has this conversation with a packmate at all.
So this starts all of the "not unpairing" stuff. Mostly just AM and Clem chatting, questioning each other, appearing like they're trying to solve. Basically everything that happens between AM and Clem is kinda soft/fluffy/halfway investigative stuff. Neither ever really takes a hard stance on the other or seems to try to investigate the other.
Discussion of Jay's town read on clem on D1
AM notes that clem is trying to solve and she likes it
AM and clem discuss the Katie vote and Katie's reactions to her wagon on EOD1
Clem asks AM for her case on katie. There are other discussions after this on if SAR is faking her post restriction, if Katie was bussed, looking for a vote count analysis, etc. etc. I didn't quote them all because none of them are unpairing and they all read kinda similarly to each other.
These are the two quotes that made me squint. Note the bottom one. This is the one I don't understand that could be in reference to clem having a PR?
Discussion of Jay's town read on clem on D1
AM notes that clem is trying to solve and she likes it
AM and clem discuss the Katie vote and Katie's reactions to her wagon on EOD1
Clem asks AM for her case on katie. There are other discussions after this on if SAR is faking her post restriction, if Katie was bussed, looking for a vote count analysis, etc. etc. I didn't quote them all because none of them are unpairing and they all read kinda similarly to each other.
These are the two quotes that made me squint. Note the bottom one. This is the one I don't understand that could be in reference to clem having a PR?
AM and Kat discuss CG and AM's reads on her. Not unpairing.
Kat once again asks AM for thoughts
Kat asks for thoughts about AM. I can't remember if she did things like this in casino 2 or not. That would be worth looking into bc right now I don't know how to read this.
AM and Kat discussion about me. Nothing unpairing.
Again asking AM for thoughts. I don't know if a wolf asks her partner for reads and thoughts so frequently? Unsure how to red this.
Discussion about 3p stumps. Tentatively NAI, though this does feel like a conversation they could have had in wolf chat instead of main thread.
Kat questioning AM towards EOD3 (i think). Regardless this was the day of AM's CG vote and discussion with apop. This is kind of good for moon specifically because I don't think wolf!Kat tags both of her packmates to ask about who they are voting for. I do think this exchange makes me lean village on Kat because I'm not sure that Kat questions packmate AM to this extent this close to EOD.
Kat once again asks AM for thoughts
Kat asks for thoughts about AM. I can't remember if she did things like this in casino 2 or not. That would be worth looking into bc right now I don't know how to read this.
AM and Kat discussion about me. Nothing unpairing.
Again asking AM for thoughts. I don't know if a wolf asks her partner for reads and thoughts so frequently? Unsure how to red this.
Discussion about 3p stumps. Tentatively NAI, though this does feel like a conversation they could have had in wolf chat instead of main thread.
Kat questioning AM towards EOD3 (i think). Regardless this was the day of AM's CG vote and discussion with apop. This is kind of good for moon specifically because I don't think wolf!Kat tags both of her packmates to ask about who they are voting for. I do think this exchange makes me lean village on Kat because I'm not sure that Kat questions packmate AM to this extent this close to EOD.
Moon's take on AM vs. katie. Not unpairing.
Moon and AM discussing stumps. Not unpairing.
The first moon read list which is what really made me start leaning village for her. Does wolf!moon put AM plus a packmate (atp Kat, Clem, Alex/samac, or chilly) in town/townleans on D1 and a bunch of villagers in wolfreads? I kinda don't think so.
Also worth noting that AM and moon have a conversation about this list.
Some more discussion like conversations between moon and AM. NAI.
Moon and AM discussing stumps. Not unpairing.
The first moon read list which is what really made me start leaning village for her. Does wolf!moon put AM plus a packmate (atp Kat, Clem, Alex/samac, or chilly) in town/townleans on D1 and a bunch of villagers in wolfreads? I kinda don't think so.
Also worth noting that AM and moon have a conversation about this list.
Some more discussion like conversations between moon and AM. NAI.
Some discussion of chilly's initial thoughts. Could just be friendly conversation or AM trying to get an interaction with her packmate. Undecided.
Discussion on D1. Note that there really isn't much discussion between these two at all after D1 which I could see being noob wolf! chilly mistake. This almost reads like AM prompting chilly to have a conversation. I do worry if chilly is TWTBW though.
Discussion on D1. Note that there really isn't much discussion between these two at all after D1 which I could see being noob wolf! chilly mistake. This almost reads like AM prompting chilly to have a conversation. I do worry if chilly is TWTBW though.
DID YOU MAKE ME RED
EXCUSE ME
Otherwise I don’t hate this list and I think we’re in a similar place in that we’ve got a lot more uncertainty than we should at this point in the game.
This is less detailed than everything else I have, partially because I didn't want to deep dive too much into a bunch of people who are not flipped and partially because I was really tired at this point 😅. I based it off of voting mostly and who overall has been in each other's POE. The red ones are possibilities and the crossed out ones I ruled out.
AM/Clem/Kat - nothing unpairing
AM/Clem/moon - I unpaired them because I didn't think moon would strong townread both packmates and wolf read only villagers as a wolf
AM/Clem/chilly - nothing unpairing, chilly's take on clem reads like unsure noob wolf trying to figure out how to read partner. clem never commits to a chilly vote and picked RDR over chilly.
AM/Clem/samac - Clem wanted to vote samac out
AM/Kat/moon
AM/Kat/chilly
AM/Kat/samac - nothing unpairing
AM/moon/chilly - it's interesting to me that moon never stayed commited on a chilly vote. I wouldn't say they are unpaired even though both sides have expressed sus of each other - that could be distancing.
AM/moon/samac - nothing unpairing
AM/samac/chilly - samac voted chilly in RDR/chilly tie
AM/Clem/Kat - nothing unpairing
AM/Clem/chilly - nothing unpairing, chilly's take on clem reads like unsure noob wolf trying to figure out how to read partner. clem never commits to a chilly vote and picked RDR over chilly.
AM/Kat/moon
AM/Kat/chilly
AM/Kat/samac - nothing unpairing
AM/moon/chilly - it's interesting to me that moon never stayed commited on a chilly vote. I wouldn't say they are unpaired even though both sides have expressed sus of each other - that could be distancing.
AM/moon/samac - nothing unpairing
YOU SCARE ME MOTHER
I watched you fool the entire village as woof in your champs game!! I must remain cautious!
They didn’t know me though, so I had that helping me.
I know it’s self meta, but there’s not a world where I sub in as a wolf and put in the hours I did in trying to understand the thread.
I would have just faked it, I wouldn’t have needed to. But I realize why you wouldn’t take my word on it.
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I don't often look at SDN on my computer and just got hit with all the beans and samac signature gifs in succession and I am absolutely tickled 
I've started writing my legacy, but I don't like it. Kinda just want to call samac, CG, and SAR not wolves and shrug for the rest of you tbh
Why are we all like this
@beans2020 Do you have the Casino link handy? I'd be interested in some Kat wolf meta.
That's very wrong
(I feel like I did see Kat wolf here or on SDN, but I don't remember specifics tbh)
Ty
FWIW I found the game I was thinking of on MU, from this year's Champs: https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/61989
Oh yeah I played that with her, but she was so busy I don’t know if it’s even comparable, but she was fairly obvious there
IDK if it's knowing Kat's alignment in Casino, but her first posts immediately seem scummier than this game - less inquisitive, more hedgy, more references to being busy (and mech, but tbf Casino seems like a really mech heavy-game).
Also she didn't look to sheep anyone in Casino. That plus everything else I was towning her for - maybe she could just go with samac et al as not wolf? 🤔
She did ask everyone to carry her in the semis but that’s kinda all she did. This doesn’t feel the same
I should look back at Casino as well (my memories are skewed since I was a wolf with her in that game) but I overall agree. That's why I've been village reading her up to this point.
Black Kat
Im smol
Fwiw I wouldnt use champs game as reference as my current mental state wasnt the best and the preassure of champs got to me really bad, But if you need it pls be my guest
I can give my take on how I usually wolf, and key points of my Casino game that's been my best so far, but Idk if it would be useful coming from me
If you want extra info or anything let me know I can point u to stuff
I think I’m here after ruminating for a bit cause although Clem tunneling me isn’t new I feel like he’s not engaging much with other worlds.
So this shall be my legacy I think.
Beans above SAR purely because I can SAR marching to the best of her own drums.
@CeeGee14 give me your reads list or so help me god
And does thread lock at 8 right? I will probably not be around right then
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Yes. 37 minutes for night action submissions
Anything anyone needs from me in case I croak?
I dunno that I have a lot to offer but happy to answer burning questions.
And I am reiterating, I’m on the side of cards on the table next cycle
And I am reiterating, I’m on the side of cards on the table next cycle
Black Kat
Im smol
What does the side card on the table mean?
Oh like I think people should reveal things to help narrow things down.
