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[Crayola227]

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I'm not aware of much (any) pippy vs KC action but I'm interested to hear more.

Your defense of FTB s post is also interesting to me.

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Sorry, that should have been "Pippy vs Kcough" or maybe just "not sure what to make of whatever it is that Pippy and Kcough are making of each other."

I said Pippy is always sketch, so then are you less sketch for finding her so? Maybe not. Are you less sketch if Pippy, who is generally sketch, thinks so? So I don't know how I should measure your guys' suspicions (or lack thereof if I'm misunderstanding?) towards each other, in my suspicion of either of you.

As far as FTB, it didn't occur to me that the PM mechanics possibly makes all info totally fluid through the chain, and pointing that out, and to be wary of wolves, seemed helpful to me. Didn't seem like a wolf would want to point that out, as wolves need trust and intel, too.

However, now that you challenged me, I remember the phrase I read that "wolves love a quiet village." Still, a lot of people hold that the best villager communication happens on thread, so FTB's caution is easily just good advice.

End of the day, it's pretty WIFOM on FTB's post now, but they're just not top of my list for a potentially useful comment.

 

[Crayola227]

Are these organized from least to most sketchy or vice versa?

It's funny, you asked for a table, and I was just doing a reread, quotes, and my comments on the quotes naturally fell into categories that I could just title with the name of the player...

There's 30 people, and I can do the huge table thing if we want, but the most I can say is what I can say about the people I've said. I haven't ordered them and I don't know who's sketchiest. I didn't have as much to go on when I picked kcough as sketchiest, and the dust that stirred up I think will prove useful, but not sure what to do with it now.

 

[Crayola227]

Just seems awfully early for a “I’m coming back to you if so-n-so flips village” kinda thing.

I agree with this, totally. One reason I haven't come off kcough.

Mansplaining an already-clear game mechanism is thoughtful?

Not buying it.

Lol, oops. I explain above why I thought it was so mind-blowing. Seriously laughing out loud about being dumb.

Sorry. I am oblivious to some things. And notorious for gender-bending. I mean, it isn’t really a game until I have voted for someone who isn’t even playing and butchered their gender at the same time.

With regard to CrayCray, it is meant affectionately, not insultingly.

I appreciate that! It's all good, I run with it now. "Only a douche picks their own nickname!" is something I heard once on SPN, I think.

 

[Animal Midwife]

It's funny, you asked for a table, and I was just doing a reread, quotes, and my comments on the quotes naturally fell into categories that I could just title with the name of the player...

There's 30 people, and I can do the huge table thing if we want, but the most I can say is what I can say about the people I've said. I haven't ordered them and I don't know who's sketchiest. I didn't have as much to go on when I picked kcough as sketchiest, and the dust that stirred up I think will prove useful, but not sure what to do with it now.

I think it'd be unreasonable for me to expect you have reads on all players when not everyone has checked in yet. It's just easier to figure out whether you think people are sketchy versus just misguided if you order your suspicions. It also makes it easier for others to evaluate you.

 

[SkiOtter]

"Only a douche picks their own nickname!" is something I heard once on SPN, I think.

Summerthelynx (summer for short, if I am allowed to choose me own nickname)

 

[Crayola227]

Ok but I don't even really know what you're saying here. Based on what I am reading, I think you're saying you find me sketchy, but that typically I am sketchy, so I am actually not sketchy?

Can you clarify, please?

Basically, I don't know what to make of you, but I can't regard someone finding you suspicious, suspicious in and of itself.

So kcough finding dy suspicious for calling you out and not allie... and kcough also thinking that was sketch... and me thinking it was sketch... is all almost meaningless to me in light of my limited meta on you, and the fact it's D1... maybe with time you'll show your true colors

 

[LyraGardenia]

I don’t get why Crayola not putting “lynch” is wolfy. Why would a wolf do that as opposed to a villager?

It is a non-event, as far as I’m concerned.

Personally I just thought her claim that she didn't know she had to put "lynch" was weird since she's played before. Not necessarily wolfy, but the explanation/excuse doesn't make sense.

 

[LetItSnow]

Personally I just thought her claim that she didn't know she had to put "lynch" was weird since she's played before. Not necessarily wolfy, but the explanation/excuse doesn't make sense.

Yeah. It is weird. But I couldn’t make it be wolfy. Yanno?

 

[WildZoo]

~slacker mod forgot to watch this thread too~

 

[cowgirl92]

Any other players sticking out to you?

Maybe greeney, fern and allie-simply because they came in pretty strong and then kind of disappeared. I need to do more research though, I'm feeling very ignorant about game mechanics and a little in the dark because of that. What are your thoughts?

 

[Animal Midwife]

Maybe greeney, fern and allie-simply because they came in pretty strong and then kind of disappeared. I need to do more research though, I'm feeling very ignorant about game mechanics and a little in the dark because of that. What are your thoughts?

I'm interested in greeney and staff because I feel they are avoiding questions.

 

[KCgophervet]

I don’t get why Crayola not putting “lynch” is wolfy. Why would a wolf do that as opposed to a villager?

It is a non-event, as far as I’m concerned.

I definitely missed a lot of posts again thanks to reading on my phone.

I didn't think it was wolfy. I was poking fun initially because I assumed the word just got misplaced somewhere due to technology. It was just super weird to me that she came back and said she didn't know she had to put it in. Like, what? This isn't your first rodeo. Idk if that makes her more or less sketch but it was weird.

Honestly I can't follow most of her post logic so I'm putting her on back burner.

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[dyachei]

I miss having my player lists handed to me by software ;-;

Pippy feels like she's aggressively trying to find *reasons* to vote people, not trying to wolfhunt in and of itself. Not that staffy is towny at all. Kind of feel like pippy is more likely than staff though. If pippy is a wolf, staff is town.

Crayola is basically neutral/null right now. She's not pinging me and this is very much in line with the last game I saw. However, I don't remember if that was a village or wolf game.

Kind of ok with LIS right now but I need private chat with him to be able to make a confident read.

kcough's vote on me is weird. I'm flabberghasted that actually trying to get activity in the thread is something she finds wolfy.

 

[dyachei]

I'm interested in greeney and staff because I feel they are avoiding questions.

staff still is IMO, don't think they've answered my question from yesterday still.

 

[Crayola227]

Spoiler: Table of Leans

Upper Peninsula “The Yoopers”
1. @genny
2. @fromthebox
3. @SoFloGryffindor
4. @LetItSnow
5. @Teepster87
6. @Coopah
7. @mmmdreamerz
8. @dyachei
9. @vetmedhead
10. @johnnaboo

Mackinac Bridge “Mighty Mac”
11. @DVMDream
12. @Melchizedek
13. @PippyPony
14. @cowgirl92
15. @Crayola227
16. @SportPonies
17. @greeneyegal92

Lower Peninsula “The Trolls”
18. @Jilary
19. @Animal Midwife
20. @Karabiner13
21. @katashark
22. @allieh8607
23. @SnowshoeDog143
24. @kcoughli
25. @staff_wielder
26. @TheGirlWithTheFernTattoo
27. @StayingPositive2017

Out of Service
28. @LyraGardenia

Spoiler: Table of Leans

Everyone needs a kick in the teeth with the tags.

Only ones that stand out to me:

Sketchy, in approximate order
Dy - defensiveness I find a touch wolfy
Kcough - similar, vote switch suspicious
Pippy - very torn here, seems sketch for all the straightforward reasons already stated, but that does the opposite of instill confidence in my read
Staff - comment seemed contrived, but I hesitate to go for the noobiest of noobs here
Greeny - earlier comment is off, hard to tell if wolf off or greeny off
johnaboo - liking lots of posts but not saying much... lurking.. could be nefarious vs nooby

Despite Dy rising higher on my re-read than kcough based on overall thread re-read feel, the vote switch of kcough is bugging me a lot, and it would be way too ironic for me to come off my vote for her for doing that by doing that myself (abrupt switch not based on much). Not to mention, with the "pressure" (not really pressure) on kcough, the back and forth with me, I think we're getting good interaction going, whereas Dy isn't really here to defend herself, which makes me feel bad. Maybe I should vote her to put pressure there, or maybe she's reading this and laying low, in any case, I'm not ready to change my vote. I'm not a huge waffler with votes, just thoughts.

Villagey - all based on their posts sounding typical to me, though many are few and of limited substance, based on very little evidence
StayPos
Fern
Snowy
allieh
kata
AM
FTB
LIS
VMH
AM
Mel
Kara

By rep or by habit, LIS, VMH, AM, Mel, allieh, I consider sneaky players and I am always wary of. StayPos and Snowy are simultaneously over and under suspected for being newer so I keep an eye on them. They are getting smarter by the game thread page. FTB I've never played with, but going off of our newly forged co-mod development relationship, they really know what they are doing, so should be watched for that. Suspect everyone.

MIA - missing in action, maybe have as many posts as some of the above, but I need more posts before I give them village lean
DVMD
genny
3M
Coopah
Jilary

DVMD, genny, Jilary, especially sneaky ones in this list.

Who the heck is this?
Gryff
Teep
cowgirl

 

[KCgophervet]

Following up on what I just kind of suggested in my response to LIS...I am agreeing with you a lot so far, which makes me a little nervous in conjunction with this post where you kind of just regurgitated my logic for switching to FTB. The last sentence of this also kinda sounds like wolfy KC.

I am interested to see how FTB flips; I may come back to you if she is village.

Right now I have a couple strong village marks for you (e.g. point about Crayola trying to push the "oh but I didn't know you had to put 'lynch' in a vote", because wtf was that about) but also a couple strong wolf marks, so I suppose we shall seeeee

Didn't realize you'd mentioned it before. I did see you switched your vote to her but didn't see your reason for it.

I do find it interesting that if FTB flips village, you'd suspect me when I'm using similar logic you used to vote for her.

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[Crayola227]

I miss having my player lists handed to me by software ;-;

Pippy feels like she's aggressively trying to find *reasons* to vote people, not trying to wolfhunt in and of itself. Not that staffy is towny at all. Kind of feel like pippy is more likely than staff though. If pippy is a wolf, staff is town.

Crayola is basically neutral/null right now. She's not pinging me and this is very much in line with the last game I saw. However, I don't remember if that was a village or wolf game.

Kind of ok with LIS right now but I need private chat with him to be able to make a confident read.

kcough's vote on me is weird. I'm flabberghasted that actually trying to get activity in the thread is something she finds wolfy.

My only wolf game was Trilt's Everday I'm Shufflin Music Thread I linked earlier in a megapost. So I'm sure I was village with you.

Lol, this last point you made on kcough has me swinging from you back onto her. Which was my first gut instinct before what she had to say and a re-read.

All this swinging gave me nausea. For realz. Going to sleep soon.

 

[dyachei]

My only wolf game was Trilt's Everday I'm Shufflin Music Thread I linked earlier in a megapost. So I'm sure I was village with you.

Lol, this last point you made on kcough has me swinging from you back onto her. Which was my first gut instinct before what she had to say and a re-read.

All this swinging gave me nausea. For realz. Going to sleep soon.

I'm just confused by it.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Villagey - all based on their posts sounding typical to me, though many are few and of limited substance, based on very little evidence
StayPos
Fern
Snowy
allieh
kata
AM
FTB
LIS
VMH
AM
Mel
Kara

You must really think I'm village. 😉

 

[KCgophervet]

I miss having my player lists handed to me by software ;-;

Pippy feels like she's aggressively trying to find *reasons* to vote people, not trying to wolfhunt in and of itself. Not that staffy is towny at all. Kind of feel like pippy is more likely than staff though. If pippy is a wolf, staff is town.

Crayola is basically neutral/null right now. She's not pinging me and this is very much in line with the last game I saw. However, I don't remember if that was a village or wolf game.

Kind of ok with LIS right now but I need private chat with him to be able to make a confident read.

kcough's vote on me is weird. I'm flabberghasted that actually trying to get activity in the thread is something she finds wolfy.

Dislike you misconstruing my vote for you.

I never thought you were sketchy for trying to get activity in the thread. I thought you were sketchy for pointing out that pip was defending staff but ignored Allie defending greenery. It felt contrived and not entirely genuine.

You were also acting differently than how I remembered you playing, though I conceded that it's been awhile since I've played with you. You addressed this point previously, which combined with my sketch dar pinging higher for someone else led to me switching my vote.

So many side eyes right now on certain people. I can't tell if I'm just being paranoid or they actually are being sketched out by me, but I'm really disliking all the falsehoods being put on me.

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[dyachei]

Dislike you misconstruing my vote for you.

I never thought you were sketchy for trying to get activity in the thread. I thought you were sketchy for pointing out that pip was defending staff but ignored Allie defending greenery. It felt contrived and not entirely genuine.

You were also acting differently than how I remembered you playing, though I conceded that it's been awhile since I've played with you. You addressed this point previously, which combined with my sketch dar pinging higher for someone else led to me switching my vote.

So many side eyes right now on certain people. I can't tell if I'm just being paranoid or they actually are being sketched out by me, but I'm really disliking all the falsehoods being put on me.

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It's not a falsehood. You said "However, I also agree with Mel that for dy this seems a lot of talk for Day 1 (but maybe her time in mafia has chaaaanged her? it's also been a bit since I've played with her I think...)."

That's activity in the thread. Sorry you disagree but I'm not spending my time here not trying to get people to talk (like staff, for one). So it's not false at all. Your inference was that me talking a lot in the thread was wolfy. And that's confusing to me. I'm in the thread to get activity going and have been responding to people and asking my own questions.

 

[Skimble]

Lynch Gryffindor

Because dat der's probably a buckless yooper. I enjoy that Escanaba is on the map.

Does anyone have a translator for this?

My only wolf game was Trilt's Everday I'm Shufflin Music Thread I linked earlier in a megapost. So I'm sure I was village with you.

Weren’t you chaos once too?

I’m a wee bit hungover from last night and I have another party to go to soon. I’d like to hear more from FTB, I know it is their first game back in years, so I’m less inclined to lynch him/her d1.

 

[dyachei]

However, you jumping on it being a "falsehood" is a touch defensive.

 

[KCgophervet]

It's not a falsehood. You said "However, I also agree with Mel that for dy this seems a lot of talk for Day 1 (but maybe her time in mafia has chaaaanged her? it's also been a bit since I've played with her I think...)."

That's activity in the thread. Sorry you disagree but I'm not spending my time here not trying to get people to talk (like staff, for one). So it's not false at all. Your inference was that me talking a lot in the thread was wolfy. And that's confusing to me. I'm in the thread to get activity going and have been responding to people and asking my own questions.

The vote was because it's out of character for you, not because I didn't want to see activity in the thread. That's 100% misconstruing what I said and you know it.

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[Animal Midwife]

Does anyone have a translator for this?

Some nice Yooper slang. Also, a reference to a movie that involves the main character having to shoot a buck before he becomes the oldest to have never done that. Basically, kata's calling SoFlo bad/jinxed.

 

[KCgophervet]

However, you jumping on it being a "falsehood" is a touch defensive.

Crayola earlier tried to say I said things I didn't say. She later recanted and said she embellished on her own.

It's not paranoid if they really are out to get you...

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[Crayola227]

Weren’t you chaos once too?

I’m a wee bit hungover from last night and I have another party to go to soon. I’d like to hear more from FTB, I know it is their first game back in years, so I’m less inclined to lynch him/her d1.

Lol, yes, I always forget that one. I was Chaos, but hilariously enough I managed to think I was village while everyone else apparently knew the truth I was too in denial about.

I was Dead and just tried my damndest to play villager but not let Kcough die.

Kcough, OTOH, was the true puppetmaster of evil.

Lol. Those days of party on party...

 

[dyachei]

The vote was because it's out of character for you, not because I didn't want to see activity in the thread. That's 100% misconstruing what I said and you know it.

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It's for the same freaking reason. One follows the other, so they aren't as separate as you want them to be. From my perspective anyway. So I'm asking you, why do you think that something out of the ordinary = wolf when I haven't played here for the better part of a year?

That's a reach if I've ever seen one. The fact that you're reaching on d1 isn't the issue. it's that you continue to reach

 

[dyachei]

Crayola earlier tried to say I said things I didn't say. She later recanted and said she embellished on her own.

It's not paranoid if they really are out to get you...

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I'm not voting you, I'm just confused by this. As I've said a few times. Who's misconstruing who now?

 

[KCgophervet]

It's for the same freaking reason. One follows the other, so they aren't as separate as you want them to be. From my perspective anyway. So I'm asking you, why do you think that something out of the ordinary = wolf when I haven't played here for the better part of a year?

That's a reach if I've ever seen one. The fact that you're reaching on d1 isn't the issue. it's that you continue to reach

If you're confused, ask for clarification.

I wasn't sold on it obviously, otherwise I'd still be voting for you. How is something out of the ordinary not equal wolf or potentially sketchy? People are usually playing as village, based on numbers. They start playing differently, it feels wolfy. I didn't realize you'd actually not even played here in over a year, I've just played so sporadically lately.

I don't like you stating I voted for you because I didn't like activity on the thread, because that's not at all what I said. But wolves would love to use statements like that to agree with and start up a lovely village lynchwagon so yeah I'm going to pick up on it and respond accordingly.

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[PippyPony]

Didn't realize you'd mentioned it before. I did see you switched your vote to her but didn't see your reason for it.

I do find it interesting that if FTB flips village, you'd suspect me when I'm using similar logic you used to vote for her.

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Why is that interesting? You piggybacked onto my reasoning real fast. So, if she is village I am going to look at you twice for parroting my logic. I don't know why that is odd. That is using data to interpret voting patterns. Honestly your swap was fast and you could easily claim you didn't see what I posted. It makes me nervous when people jump on to my votes real quick, the same way that it makes me nervous when people push hard to get me lynched early game.

For the record I still have more village points for you than wolfy points, which also is where I have dy right now if anyone is curious.

Also ngl may be a little intoxicated atm

 

[PippyPony]

I'm not aware of much (any) pippy vs KC action but I'm interested to hear more.

Also, truth. My stance on you right now is decidedly neutral -- I like most of the reads but I don't like a couple of the things about the delivery of those reads. Hence you are not my top concern at this time

 

[katashark]

Yeah i really just wanted to quote the movie Escanaba in da Moonlight @jillary

 

[katashark]

@Jilary

Yeah i really just wanted to quote the movie Escanaba in da Moonlight @jillary

 

[DVMDream]

So Pippy is already ringing wolfy to some.

LIS has already gender swapped.

Everyone is already finding dy wolfy because she hasn't played in forever and few know/remember her playing style.

And Crayola has jumped off the deep end already....

Seems like Day 1 of ww is going off about like normal...

Lynch Sport Ponies, because tradition

 

[Animal Midwife]

Unofficial Day 1 Lynch Tally
kc (1) - Cray
DVMD (1) - Sporty
Coop (2) - AM, SoFlo
Kara () -
AM () -
vmh (1) - Coop
greeney (2) - Fern, Kara
Fern (2) - vmh, genny
Pippy (2) - staffy, dy
3m (1) - Snowy
Jil (1) - jboo
Teep (1) - allie
SoFlo (1) - kata
dy () -
allie (1) - lyra
Cray (2) - LIS, cowgirl
Sporty (2) - 3m, DVMD
FTB (3) - Pippy, kc, Paws

23/28
lynch close in 3.5 hours

 

[LetItSnow]

***unlynch CrayCray*** ... has defended adequately nuff for D1, if a bit exuberantly, and has done pretty much what I asked by bring less self-focused and talking more about other players, so I can’t complain

Anyone know who hasn’t checked 8mat all to the game? Would like to get a vote or two piled on to encourage them to play, or to find out they don’t care and should be lynched anyway.

 

[Animal Midwife]

Anyone know who hasn’t checked 8mat all to the game? Would like to get a vote or two piled on to encourage them to play, or to find out they don’t care and should be lynched anyway.

8mat?

 

[Melchizedek]

First chance to sit down at a computer all day. Posting as I catch up.

Lynch Coop

I'm watching you.

Watching her what?

Watching her with my eyes

This was good enough for you AM?

 

[Animal Midwife]

This was good enough for you AM?

Good enough for what?

 

[Melchizedek]

so many people I don't know... easy to either vote them so I know who I'm dealing with that's left, or to leave the focus on veterans that I can analyze/maybe read better. Neither seems like good strat. Hate first day votes.

Something kcough had to say about the pip/dy/greeny/so many commentators/my head hurts/tally is everywhere debacle, raised my hackles a bit.

kcough

also I may not be as active as I have been in past, I'm really busy with work. It's hit or miss so I might be on more than I intend. We'll see.

I like how it's not a lynch, just my name in bold. Makes me feel special. Also, did not say anything about so many commentators or my head hurting or the tally being everywhere so... thanks for raising my hackles. Noted. (actually not noted because I am no longer dedicated enough to make spreadsheets, so mentally noted?)

lol, I thought that was all I had to do, name in bold. Didn't know it needed the word "lynch" in it.

In trying to paraphrase you in listing all the names in the "face off" I added in my comments in /backslash/ as my own joking commentary on it, to explain that I may not be getting all the names involved right, because per your own post there's like 4 people. I should have been clearer that was my own editorializing of the sitch and not yours.

I still find the statement "weird that dy pointed out Pip's subtle backing of staff but not allie's blatant backing of greeny" to be the statement that set me off.

Now that we've raised one another's hackles,

lynch kcough

Because I still find what I feel like is nitpicking this way.... sorta forced and more wolfy than villagery. I could be wrong. I'm willing to back off if anyone in the queersome 4some or anyone commenting on them, starts to seem more off.

My vote could go here. This is weird as all hell. Cray, you know how to lynch vote properly and instead of just saying oops I made a mistake, she get defensive.

If Cray has already responded to the above point, can someone condense her defense, I don't have the willpower to parse out her posts right now (not meant to be inflammatory towards you Cray, your posts do tend to be prolific.)

 

[Crayola227]

I don't like who is in the lead for lynch, and I don't like how many people are tied for second place. The fact that there are still 5 votes left to be cast doesn't make me feel much better.

I think the village needs to not lynch FTB, I don't know if the little "pack" of people voting there I should find more or less suspicious for voting there however (Pippy, KC, and Paws are always a bit to me). No offense to Paws, but it seems to me that she often bandwagon votes, villager or wolf, so I can't read anything there. I already said why I think FTB is not a top choice, but my insta-day-1 reads got nothing on all y'all's.

I think the village should consider not spreading their day 1 votes out so wide, because it gives us no good data points for later. Not that I suggest an unhelpful bandwagon for wolves to hide in either.

This is often the moment I would change my vote to do my bit to try to prevent a tie or last minute lynch waffle disasters. I've said more than enough about every player, especially the ones yakking it up.

I'd like to see some of the quiet people who made typical day 1 throwaway votes, share their thoughts on what has transpired and defend their choice, even if the choice is to do nothing.

I feel strongly enough about FTB not being a good lynch to come off KC to someone else. Not sure who, though.

 

[jaboo]

johnaboo - liking lots of posts but not saying much... lurking.. could be nefarious vs nooby

If by a lot you mean 3 posts, then yes. One of which was the squirrel pic. The other were posts I agreed with.

And I'm not saying much for a few reasons. 1) I am still trying to figure this game out. 2) From past games I've read, if a noob becomes too involved early on and use certain language (greeney in a recent game), they get sketchy written all over them.

 

[Crayola227]

My vote could go here. This is weird as all hell. Cray, you know how to lynch vote properly and instead of just saying oops I made a mistake, she get defensive.

If Cray has already responded to the above point, can someone condense her defense, I don't have the willpower to parse out her posts right now (not meant to be inflammatory towards you Cray, your posts do tend to be prolific.

TLDR upfront:
36 hours no sleep. Miss the obvious on my best days.

Long version:
I did just say, "oops, mistake," about the lynch vote wording mistake. The rest of the "defensiveness" was me actually responding to someone about players interacting in the game. For all that I'm reactionary and inflammatory, I'm really starting to feel that KC is misunderstanding not only me but others as well, to a point that I can't figure.

Honestly, I didn't get into the nitty gritty detail of the crazy jumble in my brain (can you believe it? I'm holding back...). I read Finn's mod post and something about the wording and example of the rule on how to place a lynch vote made me go, "Cool, I can save typing a word! Bold name should do it, not sure what +/- "lynch" adds. And to think, all those times we're typing "lynch" it's just for good measure! I wonder why everyone does that when you can...."

I'm going on 36 hours no sleep right now, and if you checked my posts, you'd see that was so. So that was a great "lightbulb" moment.

Lol, why would I purposefully do that as a wolf? So the answer is honest mistake of course, and I think it's silly to think such a slip is a good data point on affiliation. I mean, I get looking for anything out of the ordinary... but common sense, please.

 

[Melchizedek]

This one stood out the most for me. "Not standing up for her or anything but..." Psht that is totally standing up for someone. Not saying wolf, but definitely caught my eye.

Then of course we have the pip-staff-dy-mel face off. I do agree with Pip that it read noob to me rather than wolf, however I could see dy's point with the subtle-support being potentially too knowledgeable. However, I also agree with Mel that for dy this seems a lot of talk for Day 1 (but maybe her time in mafia has chaaaanged her? it's also been a bit since I've played with her I think...).

This slipped right past me until I read Dy's post calling it out. I called Dy alarmist and aggressive but I have never played with her before so I can't really speak to Dy's typical volume of posts or "a lot of talk for Day 1" and looking back at my posts I'm having trouble where you think I implied as such.
This bothers me because the rest of your logic I actually really like and was following well 🤔

 

[jaboo]

Unlynch Jilary

Lynch kcough

I can't really wrap my head around why kcough deflected. And those who are pointing fingers at others and citing nit-picky things seems like grasping at straws to me.

 

[Melchizedek]

Good enough for what?

Gryff made a very strange comment, you started a line of questions, Gryff answered with nothing convincing and you dropped the line of questioning a little too quickly for my liking.

 

[Melchizedek]

TLDR upfront:
36 hours no sleep. Miss the obvious on my best days.

Long version:
I did just say, "oops, mistake," about the lynch vote wording mistake. The rest of the "defensiveness" was me actually responding to someone about players interacting in the game. For all that I'm reactionary and inflammatory, I'm really starting to feel that KC is misunderstanding not only me but others as well, to a point that I can't figure.

Honestly, I didn't get into the nitty gritty detail of the crazy jumble in my brain (can you believe it? I'm holding back...). I read Finn's mod post and something about the wording and example of the rule on how to place a lynch vote made me go, "Cool, I can save typing a word! Bold name should do it, not sure what +/- "lynch" adds. And to think, all those times we're typing "lynch" it's just for good measure! I wonder why everyone does that when you can...."

I'm going on 36 hours no sleep right now, and if you checked my posts, you'd see that was so. So that was a great "lightbulb" moment.

Lol, why would I purposefully do that as a wolf? So the answer is honest mistake of course, and I think it's silly to think such a slip is a good data point on affiliation. I mean, I get looking for anything out of the ordinary... but common sense, please.

Okay fair enough I get sleep-deprivation and brain farts.

I'm skimming some of Cray's other posts, and the rest of it reads like her usual emotions-bleeding-into-the-game posts.

 

[KCgophervet]

I don't like who is in the lead for lynch, and I don't like how many people are tied for second place. The fact that there are still 5 votes left to be cast doesn't make me feel much better.

I think the village needs to not lynch FTB, I don't know if the little "pack" of people voting there I should find more or less suspicious for voting there however (Pippy, KC, and Paws are always a bit to me). No offense to Paws, but it seems to me that she often bandwagon votes, villager or wolf, so I can't read anything there. I already said why I think FTB is not a top choice, but my insta-day-1 reads got nothing on all y'all's.

I think the village should consider not spreading their day 1 votes out so wide, because it gives us no good data points for later. Not that I suggest an unhelpful bandwagon for wolves to hide in either.

This is often the moment I would change my vote to do my bit to try to prevent a tie or last minute lynch waffle disasters. I've said more than enough about every player, especially the ones yakking it up.

I'd like to see some of the quiet people who made typical day 1 throwaway votes, share their thoughts on what has transpired and defend their choice, even if the choice is to do nothing.

I feel strongly enough about FTB not being a good lynch to come off KC to someone else. Not sure who, though.

Are you able to pm with FTB? On my phone so not super easy to check roster. I'm just surprised you're going to bat for her so strongly based on one? post.

If she's chatting with you via pm and you think shes not wolfy based on that, at least that's something.

From the information available on thread though I find it pretty suspicious to vouch so strongly for someone based on so little. Options are a wolf who knows FTB is village and is trying to buy cred for herself when FTB flips that way, a wolf trying to save another wolf who's absent and not able to defend, or mason villager.

The majority of those options aren't great, so I'm actually considering switching to you.

I would like to hear from the players who haven't shown up or who have been minimally participating.

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[Animal Midwife]

Gryff made a very strange comment, you started a line of questions, Gryff answered with nothing convincing and you dropped the line of questioning a little too quickly for my liking.

Who said I dropped it? I'm not done with SloFlo if that's what you're implying.