Vermont vs. Utah

[utila]

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I am currently accepted to Utah and Vermont Medical Schools. I am a resident of Utah and the tuition is roughly 30,000 cheaper a year to go to Utah. The means that I will have 120,000 more in debt to attend a different state school, plus interest. I went to Utah for my undergraduate and feel that I am ready for a change. I am not sure I am ready for that much more debt on top of the 120,000 Ill have after graduating from the University of Utah. I really want to get out of Utah in the worst way even though I love living here. My life is the best when it is full of change.
I also think it makes me a more interesting person to be trained in two different states and schools and dread the day when I say I did both undergrad and medical school at the U of U. I really would like to go to Vermont not only because I feel it is a better school but I just want a new place to climb, bike, hike, explore, and make connections and friends. I have lived here all my life and want change.
I would be extremely happy with attending the U of U and it is a pretty good school, I love snowboarding here, climbing, and backpacking not to mention all my family and friends are here. I currently love my life and would continue to do so I just have to weight the $$$$$$$$$$$$ vs. the safe decision.


Please offer any guidance, regarding the burden the additional debt will cause, and I know that I'll be a doctor no matter what school I attend, but the next 4 years of my life and the experience gained from living in a new location is very valuable to me just maybe not $120,000 valuable if it detracts from my future sanity. I hate debt and thrive on change. HELP ME!

 

[TheGoose]

wrong forum. Try the Pre-Medical student forum or maybe a moderator can redirect

 

[notdeadyet]

Moving to Pre-Allo...

 

[veaselhaufen]

I am currently accepted to Utah and Vermont Medical Schools. I am a resident of Utah and the tuition is roughly 30,000 cheaper a year to go to Utah. The means that I will have 120,000 more in debt to attend a different state school, plus interest. I went to Utah for my undergraduate and feel that I am ready for a change. I am not sure I am ready for that much more debt on top of the 120,000 Ill have after graduating from the University of Utah. I really want to get out of Utah in the worst way even though I love living here. My life is the best when it is full of change.
I also think it makes me a more interesting person to be trained in two different states and schools and dread the day when I say I did both undergrad and medical school at the U of U. I really would like to go to Vermont not only because I feel it is a better school but I just want a new place to climb, bike, hike, explore, and make connections and friends. I have lived here all my life and want change.
I would be extremely happy with attending the U of U and it is a pretty good school, I love snowboarding here, climbing, and backpacking not to mention all my family and friends are here. I currently love my life and would continue to do so I just have to weight the $$$$$$$$$$$$ vs. the safe decision.


Please offer any guidance, regarding the burden the additional debt will cause, and I know that I'll be a doctor no matter what school I attend, but the next 4 years of my life and the experience gained from living in a new location is very valuable to me just maybe not $120,000 valuable if it detracts from my future sanity. I hate debt and thrive on change. HELP ME!

Hey Buddy,

I went to your college, was accepted at both of these schools and also have an uncontrollable urge to leave utah.

UVM was a beautiful school with friendly students, nice facilties, in a nice city. I really liked Burlington. But, like Utah, I think Burlington is a fairly homogenous and is also quite sheltered. The only thing that I didn't like about it was the pre-clinical curriculum, but most other people seemed to really like it so whatever.

Anyway, I think you should definitely get the hell out of utah. BUTT, that extra debt load is definitely going to hold you back.

Here is what you do: Call UVM. Tell them how much you love them. Research their webpage and find all of their qualities that you fit in perfectly with. Make them believe that you will be the most enthusiastic, hard-working, amiable student who ever attended UVM. THEN you tell them that there is NOTHING more that you would like to do but attend UVM, but the debt difference is prohibiting you from attending. Make a lot of noise (but be polite and professional of course).

If they help you out==> you go to UVM

If they don't help you out ==> you consider what sort of specialties you can see yourself pursuing one day. If you are at all inclined towards pediatrics, FM, IM, Psych, you go to utah.

If you are interested in Surgery Stuff, Rads, Gas, whatever, then you go to UVM.

Good luck

 

[chessodoc]

Hey Buddy,

I went to your college, was accepted at both of these schools and also have an uncontrollable urge to leave utah.

UVM was a beautiful school with friendly students, nice facilties, in a nice city. I really liked Burlington. But, like Utah, I think Burlington is a fairly homogenous and is also quite sheltered. The only thing that I didn't like about it was the pre-clinical curriculum, but most other people seemed to really like it so whatever.

Anyway, I think you should definitely get the hell out of utah. BUTT, that extra debt load is definitely going to hold you back.

Here is what you do: Call UVM. Tell them how much you love them. Research their webpage and find all of their qualities that you fit in perfectly with. Make them believe that you will be the most enthusiastic, hard-working, amiable student who ever attended UVM. THEN you tell them that there is NOTHING more that you would like to do but attend UVM, but the debt difference is prohibiting you from attending. Make a lot of noise (but be polite and professional of course).

If they help you out==> you go to UVM

If they don't help you out ==> you consider what sort of specialties you can see yourself pursuing one day. If you are at all inclined towards pediatrics, FM, IM, Psych, you go to utah.

If you are interested in Surgery Stuff, Rads, Gas, whatever, then you go to UVM.

Good luck

I would say go to UVM for peds, FM, IM....they are higher ranked...like ranked 6th, lol.

I might have the same problem. I am waitlisted at Pennstate (my in-state school) and if I get in I would have the same dilemma. Tuition is only 27k vs. 50k...and like everyone else I loved like, everything about UVM (except the tuition)

 

[veaselhaufen]

Primary care rankings are even more meaningless than the research rankings. I was more concerned about the OP's ability to pay back debt if he/she chooses these specialties

 

[searun]

You should go to Utah for med school and not incur this tremendous amount of additional debt. I understand your desire for new experiences but the burden of this extra debt will limit your ability to have new experiences in the future. Actually 4 years passes very quickly when you are a busy med student Be practical. Get your MD degree from Utah and leave the state for residency. Go to New York, Boston, LA, or San Franciso for residency and experience life in the fast lane while you are a resident.

 

[phospho]

Hey Buddy,

I went to your college, was accepted at both of these schools and also have an uncontrollable urge to leave utah.

UVM was a beautiful school with friendly students, nice facilties, in a nice city. I really liked Burlington. But, like Utah, I think Burlington is a fairly homogenous and is also quite sheltered. The only thing that I didn't like about it was the pre-clinical curriculum, but most other people seemed to really like it so whatever.

Anyway, I think you should definitely get the hell out of utah. BUTT, that extra debt load is definitely going to hold you back.

Here is what you do: Call UVM. Tell them how much you love them. Research their webpage and find all of their qualities that you fit in perfectly with. Make them believe that you will be the most enthusiastic, hard-working, amiable student who ever attended UVM. THEN you tell them that there is NOTHING more that you would like to do but attend UVM, but the debt difference is prohibiting you from attending. Make a lot of noise (but be polite and professional of course).

If they help you out==> you go to UVM

If they don't help you out ==> you consider what sort of specialties you can see yourself pursuing one day. If you are at all inclined towards pediatrics, FM, IM, Psych, you go to utah.

If you are interested in Surgery Stuff, Rads, Gas, whatever, then you go to UVM.

Good luck

Awesome post, I completely agree... If your cost of attendance stays the same after you speak with Vermont, definitely go to Utah, unless you're shooting for an extremely competitive specialty - but even then, most of us have no clue what we want to specialize in since we're only premeds, so I would still go to Utah.

I would say go to UVM for peds, FM, IM....they are higher ranked...like ranked 6th, lol.

I can't think of one thing that could possibly be less important than primary care rankings.

 

[econdr]

I can't think of one thing that could possibly be less important than primary care rankings.

If you look at the methodology used by US News, none of those rankings seem all that relevant. (except for maybe the 6% or 8% of the survey that comes from interviewing residency directors).

http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/best-graduate-schools/2008/03/26/medicine-methodology.html