We Can't Tell You Who WWe Are: Animorphs Game Thread

[Ceke2002]

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You need to rethink your logic. PMing isn't allowed during the day. The only way the role seer is going to be able to vouch me is by exposing themselves. Is that really a good move for the village?

Hmm, forgot about no pm'ing during the day (being in a different time zone it's harder to keep track), and you have a point, definitely don't want to force the role seer to reveal themselves, way too important to the village. I'll unlynch for now.

Unlynch RM

 

[Ceke2002]

Okay it's 1 am here, I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to be awake for (probably a while but in case of sudden sleep...)

Lynch Zensing

Based on feels. Nothing specific just feels.

 

[Saki Nishibi]

@SummerTheLynx Are you silenced again? Please like this post if your're silenced again.

 

[WildZoo]

Okay it's 1 am here, I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to be awake for (probably a while but in case of sudden sleep...)

Lynch Zensing

Based on feels. Nothing specific just feels.

Other members of the group can give their input but Zen revealed to our group last night and for now I believe her

 

[WildZoo]

@SummerTheLynx Are you silenced again? Please like this post if your're silenced again.

It seems to be related to his role and he can't PM either

 

[Ceke2002]

Other members of the group can give their input but Zen revealed to our group last night and for now I believe her

Okay, I'll Unlynch Zensing for fairness sake, because I might crash out and end up accidentally lynching a villager who seemingly can be vouched for. Although depending on who gives input, I do find the term 'other members of the group' to be an interesting turn of phrase, it has a certain wolfiness to it.

 

[StartingoverVet]

Re: silenced roles...

There are a couple of variations of what happens In A silenced role... Could someone with knowledge of source material chime in if these would fit any character.
1- they gather info that is nOT released until their death... I.e keeping a diary. Think Hellen Keller in history .
2- they don't actually start playing until killed....I.e. A ghost
3- they communicate only through another role.
4-they get sensitive info can't communicate but can vote.
5- nothing just an annoying role.

The reason I ask is if it is #2. Then we should lynch hi right away.
If it is #1 we should leave him to gather info.

I have also seen wolves act like they are silenced in a huge deception to not get lynched...and this is a typical grandiose play that STL would do. He might be a good target to investigate, cause I believe this is the most likely scenario

 

[StartingoverVet]

I am going to lynch wz

Cause I am stubborn partly, but more wondering how she knows anything about stl if he can't talk. Cause if she was linked to him, I wouldn't be answering questions so obviously but if he were a wolf lying, then she would know he was acting silenced.

 

[Ceke2002]

I am going to lynch wz

Cause I am stubborn partly, but more wondering how she knows anything about stl if he can't talk. Cause if she was linked to him, I wouldn't be answering questions so obviously but if he were a wolf lying, then she would know he was acting silenced.

I like your line of reasoning.

Lynch WZ

 

[Lupin21]

I am going to lynch wz

Cause I am stubborn partly, but more wondering how she knows anything about stl if he can't talk. Cause if she was linked to him, I wouldn't be answering questions so obviously but if he were a wolf lying, then she would know he was acting silenced.

It is obvious he also can't PM because we tried to talk with him last light and he could only give a . as a reply. Not that hard to figure out there.

 

[Ceke2002]

It is obvious he also can't PM because we tried to talk with him last light and he could only give a . as a reply. Not that hard to figure out there.

Okay, now that would make sense and explain WZ knowing about silencing when STL can't speak in PMs.

Unlynch WZ

 

[WildZoo]

I am going to lynch wz

Cause I am stubborn partly, but more wondering how she knows anything about stl if he can't talk. Cause if she was linked to him, I wouldn't be answering questions so obviously but if he were a wolf lying, then she would know he was acting silenced.

In addition to what lupin said, I also asked on thread yesterday in two separate posts whether his silencing was temporary or related to his role and he liked the latter post

 

[Ceke2002]

Re: silenced roles...

There are a couple of variations of what happens In A silenced role... Could someone with knowledge of source material chime in if these would fit any character.
1- they gather info that is nOT released until their death... I.e keeping a diary. Think Hellen Keller in history .
2- they don't actually start playing until killed....I.e. A ghost
3- they communicate only through another role.
4-they get sensitive info can't communicate but can vote.
5- nothing just an annoying role.

The reason I ask is if it is #2. Then we should lynch hi right away.
If it is #1 we should leave him to gather info.

I have also seen wolves act like they are silenced in a huge deception to not get lynched...and this is a typical grandiose play that STL would do. He might be a good target to investigate, cause I believe this is the most likely scenario

Hmm, okay, @SummerTheLynx You liked this post, so I'm assuming you agree with it to some extent, I'm also assuming with the bolded part that you're not saying we should necessarily investigate you, but should we perhaps be looking at someone within your (non) PM group?

If No then don't like this post, if Yes then hit like.

 

[WildZoo]

I agree it is a good idea to investigate him because he has certainly pretended to have post restrictions before

 

[Trilt]

Sad Little Lunchtime Lynchtime Tally
WZ (1) - SOV

1/20 accounted for.

 

[dyachei]

lynch sov

dont see a reason not to yet.

As for STL I'm kind of thinking I have an idea of who he is.

I wouldn't lynch him for it.

 

[Ceke2002]

I still have feels over WZ as well, despite the unlynching because sense was being made. That turn of phrase 'the group' just strikes me as being somewhat separate, or standing apart from; it's not 'our group', 'my group' (our village, my village, belonging sounding words), it's somewhat clinical in a way, not the sort of phrasing I'd expect a villager to use. A possible expression slip by a wolf? Is anyone else following my line of thinking?

 

[dyachei]

this is the book series with communication through thought-speak, isn't it?

 

[WildZoo]

I still have feels over WZ as well, despite the unlynching because sense was being made. That turn of phrase 'the group' just strikes me as being somewhat separate, or standing apart from; it's not 'our group', 'my group' (our village, my village, belonging sounding words), it's somewhat clinical in a way, not the sort of phrasing I'd expect a villager to use. A possible expression slip by a wolf? Is anyone else following my line of thinking?

Literally said our group in the same line.

 

[guisantes]

Unlynch WTF

Lynch RM

If @ResoluteMike is a villager then I'm sure whoever forced his role name can find someway to clarify that without necessarily outing themselves. If nobody comes forward then I'd put that as a high suspicion for potential wolf. At least right now that makes more sense to me than Lulzy game dynamics with WTF.

I'm not sure I'm following this line of thought ceke. Why does it mean a "high suspicion for a potential wolf"? If the person who now knows RM's role found out he was a wolf, I would hope they would've found some way to get that information out. Otherwise, it makes more sense to stay quiet. Can you explain your thought process here? It's quite possible I'm just totally missing something.

 

[Ceke2002]

Literally said our group in the same line.

Yes but doesn't mean it still wasn't a wolf slip the other time. If I was a wolf I think I'd tend to think of my pack as 'the group', I feel like wolf pack dynamics would be different to a villagers - in the way wolves thought about each other and their relation to the village.

 

[guisantes]

Also, @ResoluteMike the injury and the giving up of your role name were related right?

 

[Ceke2002]

I'm not sure I'm following this line of thought ceke. Why does it mean a "high suspicion for a potential wolf"? If the person who now knows RM's role found out he was a wolf, I would hope they would've found some way to get that information out. Otherwise, it makes more sense to stay quiet. Can you explain your thought process here? It's quite possible I'm just totally missing something.

Okay my thought process...

Claiming 'forced role reveal' to bolster villager cred could totally be a wolf trying to hide move. I lynched RM in order to see if anyone was able to clear him on behalf of who is now assumed to be the role seer, without actually revealing who the role seer is. If nobody stepped forward to vouch then I would have been working from the assumption that he was bluffing a forced role reveal for the aforementioned villager cred/hiding wolfiness. Then someone pointed out about not being able to PM at certain times, and that meant a potential likelihood that trying to get a vouch for RM's apparent role seerage may force the role seer to reveal which is definitely not good. So I unlynched.

Make sense now? 🙂

I tend to think out loud in these games.

 

[Ceke2002]

^^^ And don't worry, I don't think anyone can follow my line of reasoning half the time.

 

[Ceke2002]

@SummerTheLynx Just checking if you're following the conversation.

 

[dyachei]

this is the book series with communication through thought-speak, isn't it?

@SummerTheLynx

am I getting close?

 

[Skimble]

Also, @ResoluteMike the injury and the giving up of your role name were related right?

I thought he was saying the injury and forced reveal were related which makes me suspect he was forced to reveal by the wolf seer. I don't believe I've ever seen a villager seer cause injury, though when I was meowth (wolf) in trilt's pokemon game, I could seer and injure.

 

[Ceke2002]

Shoot, 3 am and I have to get to a doctor's appointment later today. I really need to try and sleep, especially because I'm all twingy neck pain-headachey-dizzy right now. I'm gonna have to pick a lynch any lynch, and so far the only two people I have feels on are WZ and RM, both for reasons which make sense in my head but are way too complicated for me to type out right now (just sort of patterns).

Okay RNG out of those two choices (hang on let me pull up my dice roller...9 dice, difficulty of 5, 3 separate autogenerated rolls per person in order of their numbering on the group list - 2 people only, this time I'll RNG the lynch the person with the lowest success count instead of the highest)

Lynch RM

 

[guisantes]

Yes ceke I understand your thought process now thank you! I'm not sure if RM bluffing is a very likely scenario, but I suppose it is possible.

And yes jil, I was thinking the same thing. I don't really think a seer who injures people is necessarily a benign-sounding role.

*edited for spelling

 

[Ceke2002]

I thought he was saying the injury and forced reveal were related which makes me suspect he was forced to reveal by the wolf seer. I don't believe I've ever seen a villager seer cause injury, though when I was meowth (wolf) in trilt's pokemon game, I could seer and injure.

Thank you for this last minute, holy bleep I was just about to log off and go to sleep piece of valuable insight. Wolf seer, I didn't even consider that. And now someone has just gone a jump ahead of RM or WZ (althought still looking in their general direction).

edited to add: Unlynch RM

Lynch STL

 

[dyachei]

I can think of a very good villager reason for STL's role based on the books. Not sure I would lynch there today

 

[Ceke2002]

I can think of a very good villager reason for STL's role based on the books. Not sure I would lynch there today

Can you explain? So far he's liking posts in a way that seems to indicate he has information, a silenced role can still be an information gathering role, it would behoove a wolf seer to act the part of a silenced villager seer (or similar), others have said in past games he's been known to play at being silent in order to hide wolf affiliation.

*shakes fist* Damn you WW, I need to sleep.

 

[ResoluteMike]

Also, @ResoluteMike the injury and the giving up of your role name were related right?

Yes, they were related.

 

[WildZoo]

Yes but doesn't mean it still wasn't a wolf slip the other time. If I was a wolf I think I'd tend to think of my pack as 'the group', I feel like wolf pack dynamics would be different to a villagers - in the way wolves thought about each other and their relation to the village.

Really not sure what you are trying to say but ok.

 

[dyachei]

Can you explain? So far he's liking posts in a way that seems to indicate he has information, a silenced role can still be an information gathering role, it would behoove a wolf seer to act the part of a silenced villager seer (or similar), others have said in past games he's been known to play at being silent in order to hide wolf affiliation.

*shakes fist* Damn you WW, I need to sleep.

it would be really weird for him to fake a silenced role. And it's kind of stretch to lynch him over that.

Basically, many characters can use thought speak. it may be that he will be able to communicate later or more directly.

 

[genny]

Yes ceke I understand your thought process now thank you! I'm not sure if RM bluffing is a very likely scenario, but I suppose it is possible.

And yes jil, I was thinking the same thing. I don't really think a seer who injures people is necessarily a benign-sounding role.

*edited for spelling

If RM was the only one injured last night, then it would seem very likely to me that the injury was caused by a wolf seer. Just wondering if there are blockers out there who can also injure, which is why I asked if anyone else was injured last night.

 

[WildZoo]

The grapevine still works even when most PMing only occurs at night! What RM describes sounds like an item I have heard of.

 

[Ceke2002]

Really not sure what you are trying to say but ok.

Thoughts out loud in the middle of the night, me clutching at lynch straws I think - trying to imagine playing as a wolf in order to catch a wolf, like how would my interactions and thoughts of myself and the larger group intersect if I was a wolf and not a villager.

Okay it's 3.30 am here, I'm giving myself until 4 am and then I definitely need to try and sleep (I can't rock up to the doctor's tomorrow looking like a bag lady on crack).

 

[WildZoo]

Thoughts out loud in the middle of the night, me clutching at lynch straws I think - trying to imagine playing as a wolf in order to catch a wolf, like how would my interactions and thoughts of myself and the larger group intersect if I was a wolf and not a villager.

Okay it's 3.30 am here, I'm giving myself until 4 am and then I definitely need to try and sleep (I can't rock up to the doctor's tomorrow looking like a bag lady on crack).

I would just suggest perhaps looking at how I play as a wolf, or how wolves typically play, rather than trying to apply how you think you would play as a wolf to my or anyone else's posts. Also getting some sleep is perhaps a good idea, it's good for the brain 😀

 

[Lupin21]

I still have feels over WZ as well, despite the unlynching because sense was being made. That turn of phrase 'the group' just strikes me as being somewhat separate, or standing apart from; it's not 'our group', 'my group' (our village, my village, belonging sounding words), it's somewhat clinical in a way, not the sort of phrasing I'd expect a villager to use. A possible expression slip by a wolf? Is anyone else following my line of thinking?

no, she means Zen sent a PM including everyone in the Dome Ship. Our group.

 

[Ceke2002]

it would be really weird for him to fake a silenced role. And it's kind of stretch to lynch him over that.

Basically, many characters can use thought speak. it may be that he will be able to communicate later or more directly.

Okay, I see your point, but we are talking about a potential wolf seer here - those things need to be napalmed off the face off the earth, downwind from the village, obviously.

So you're not feeling an STL lynch, who are you feeling lynchy towards (besides me for sheer annoyance )

 

[Ceke2002]

I would just suggest perhaps looking at how I play as a wolf, or how wolves typically play, rather than trying to apply how you think you would play as a wolf to my or anyone else's posts. Also getting some sleep is perhaps a good idea, it's good for the brain 😀

no, she means Zen sent a PM including everyone in the Dome Ship. Our group.

Okay, thanks...eyes now wandering away from WZ and going elsewhere (not sure where yet, they'll get there eventually).

 

[WildZoo]

I would just suggest perhaps looking at how I play as a wolf, or how wolves typically play, rather than trying to apply how you think you would play as a wolf to my or anyone else's posts. Also getting some sleep is perhaps a good idea, it's good for the brain 😀

Note that I'm not even sure how I play as a wolf, so whether or not that is a helpful statement would be up to other players...I'm not super familiar with my own meta 😛

 

[dyachei]

Okay, I see your point, but we are talking about a potential wolf seer here - those things need to be napalmed off the face off the earth, downwind from the village, obviously.

So you're not feeling an STL lynch, who are you feeling lynchy towards (besides me for sheer annoyance )

yes, wolf seers are bad. But they aren't the worst of the roles.

I feel like you're putting a lot of emphasis when it's a very, very small possibility.

I dont have a lot of good reads right now.

 

[Ceke2002]

yes, wolf seers are bad. But they aren't the worst of the roles.

I feel like you're putting a lot of emphasis when it's a very, very small possibility.

I dont have a lot of good reads right now.

Then besides an alpha wolf what is the worst of the roles in terms of village threat?

And yes I may be reaching, but I'm reaching in a way that makes sense to me and I really don't want to have to do a complete RNG for another lynch (feel like I did way too many of those last game, even if I did end up lynching someone else at the last minute). Also more people seem to be on the 'don't lynch the player who can't speak, let's just wait and see' side of things, so I'm also assuming STL is a safer lynch option in terms of also not inadvertently killing a potentially valuable villager. Right now I feel like he's either an important asset to the wolves, or an important asset to the village - just not entirely sure which one yet, so safe lynch, maybe get people thinking and talking, take things from there for future lynch reference.

 

[Ceke2002]

And that's me done at 4 am and officially heading to the land of 'please gods let me sleep!'. Sticking with the STL lynch for reasons explained above.

Kisses to my fellow villagers; boo hisses to the wolves.

 

[Lupin21]

Then besides an alpha wolf what is the worst of the roles in terms of village threat?

And yes I may be reaching, but I'm reaching in a way that makes sense to me and I really don't want to have to do a complete RNG for another lynch (feel like I did way too many of those last game, even if I did end up lynching someone else at the last minute). Also more people seem to be on the 'don't lynch the player who can't speak, let's just wait and see' side of things, so I'm also assuming STL is a safer lynch option in terms of also not inadvertently killing a potentially valuable villager. Right now I feel like he's either an important asset to the wolves, or an important asset to the village - just not entirely sure which one yet, so safe lynch, maybe get people thinking and talking, take things from there for future lynch reference.

So, this is very bad reasoning. STL could be a very important villager, or not. He cannot speak. It is early and the game and very easy to look into him a couple different ways. I imagine he got bombarded last night myself. Someone would speak up if they found something.

As to the dangerous wolves, they are all dangerous, but any wolf that has an extra kill power is usually the one I like to kill of as soon as possible, but most of the time you don't even know what their ability is until write-up, so that is not needed in wolf hunting for most of us. Sometimes there can be an ability seer, but they have to be careful because there are of course village counterparts.

 

[Devastating]

Was anyone else besides RM injured last night?
Looks like injuries aren't necessarily the result of not meeting a post quota.

There are definitely injurious abilities out there...just checked my PMs and a similar thing happened to me as with RM. I was slashed by a "vicious, hairy beast" to give up my affiliation.

 

[Ceke2002]

So, this is very bad reasoning. STL could be a very important villager, or not. He cannot speak. It is early and the game and very easy to look into him a couple different ways. I imagine he got bombarded last night myself. Someone would speak up if they found something.

As to the dangerous wolves, they are all dangerous, but any wolf that has an extra kill power is usually the one I like to kill of as soon as possible, but most of the time you don't even know what their ability is until write-up, so that is not needed in wolf hunting for most of us. Sometimes there can be an ability seer, but they have to be careful because there are of course village counterparts.

Okay, Miss still not sleeping is back in time to read this, and...mind changed, risk too great.

Unlynch STL

Damnit I'm gonna end up doing an RNG dice roll lynch, I wanted to try harder this game to read into things more and play better.

 

[Ceke2002]

RNG Lynch FFM