WildZoo's WWild ZZoo Part 2 - Game Thread

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Yeah i inferred from the context

I get your point about the benefits of signalboosting players early. But Clems’s blind agreement of your reasoning is just going to be a ping for me atm. I’d agree the sheeping would be far more problematic near EoD compared to SoD though.
Ehh, if you want meta content to not b pinged by that, in semifinal 3 from Champs, Clem (Nanook there) was town and opened with presenting another player as mayor and to sheep them. Thats why I think its not Alignment indicative cause it can come from any alignment from him.

Also I am talking too much and I didnt want that. So I'm going to shut up a little while claming that I have Skill Issue
 
Thanks for this response, it was helpful.

Pondering what that means.
How was it helpful if you're now pondering its meaning? If your question/AM's response was helpful in figuring out her alignment, wouldn't you have some interpretation rather than just more pondering? I feel like you're trying to look busy.
 
So do you not think sheeping you and not providing reasoning or thoughts of their own is Village?

Because if you take issue with my finding Clems behavior Wolfy, then you must alternatively see it as villagey, so I’m wondering why you think blindly sheeping you onto a vote for a villager is “villagey”?
I am NAI on Clem.

I think your reaction to Clem is Wolfy indicative.
So the fact that Clem is voting you and I feel your reaction/sus there in response is possibly fake, there is a world where the wolfteam is you/Clem. Too early to tell, but I am seeing more wolfy in you so thats where my vote is going to be.

Also, blindly sheeping someone without reading stuff is something I did more than once as villa. Also did it as mafia to mirror my Villa approach. So yeah, dont read it as wolfy in particular.

The last part about alternatives and stuff I dont follow much tho. But I think I explained my thought process regarding you and Clem here regardless so hopefully it is understandable
 
But ultimately, what wrong assumption could end up by the fact that people think you and MKG are unpaired?
It’s not the assumption that people think MK and I are unpaired. It’s the idea that “wolf MK wouldn’t joke vote me D1”

I don’t like misinformation being on the thread in any context. It causes confusion and for people to have improper foundations for their solves. I’m not going to come up with random hypotheticals for how misinformation on thread could play out. I just wanted to correct it.

But your clarification wasnt to correct me / shade me / try to lead into other direction, the goal felt more like 'Mkg and me could be paired still!' which isnt benefitial ffor you if you are Villa in my eyes.
I don’t like misinformation being perpetrated on thread. I’m not sure why you find that difficult to understand.
 
It’s just hard for me to believe that you can pile up as the 4th vote on someone based on a joke. Randomly voting someone without any votes yes. But she’s actively expanding a wagon here
Not sure how I feel about this post.
 
How was it helpful if you're now pondering its meaning? If your question/AM's response was helpful in figuring out her alignment, wouldn't you have some interpretation rather than just more pondering? I feel like you're trying to look busy.
I got a data point and I'm now considering that data point. AM proved to me last game that I am not good at reading her when she's scum. So I'm trying to be more thoughtful about how I interpret what she says.
 
I got a data point and I'm now considering that data point. AM proved to me last game that I am not good at reading her when she's scum. So I'm trying to be more thoughtful about how I interpret what she says.
your data point is whether she would truthfully answer if she's wolfed in 2 games in a row before?


.... wolves always lie in that situation then? or is that village!AM?
 
your data point is whether she would truthfully answer if she's wolfed in 2 games in a row before?


.... wolves always lie in that situation then? or is that village!AM?
I wanted to see how spicy/defensive her response was. If she decided to directly address the implication behind my question or just directly answer it.

I'm not... entirely sure how to interpret what I got just yet. But there were a range of responses she could have given, and I don't think I expected the one she gave.

You can be bothered by that if you like, but I don't know how else to get a feel for people than ask questions and think about their responses.
 
I wanted to see how spicy/defensive her response was. If she decided to directly address the implication behind my question or just directly answer it.

I'm not... entirely sure how to interpret what I got just yet. But there were a range of responses she could have given, and I don't think I expected the one she gave.

You can be bothered by that if you like, but I don't know how else to get a feel for people than ask questions and think about their responses.
I think I get what you're saying. It's not what she said but how she said it.
 
It’s just hard for me to believe that you can pile up as the 4th vote on someone based on a joke. Randomly voting someone without any votes yes. But she’s actively expanding a wagon here
to be faiiiiirrr theyre different jokes. so like we arent all sheeping one silly with malicious intent (or at least im not, sheesh)
we have a lot of time left in the cycle, and we're only 3 pages in, so for me at least the votes on zenge are not that serious of an issue rn
 
to be faiiiiirrr theyre different jokes. so like we arent all sheeping one silly with malicious intent (or at least im not, sheesh)
we have a lot of time left in the cycle, and we're only 3 pages in, so for me at least the votes on zenge are not that serious of an issue rn
Yeah there’s still a lot of time. So what you ‘re saying is your vote is not malicious (you re not wolf reading him) but either way you think he ll be fine so you re staying there?
 
I think santy is town and I feel like seeing where it goes
So do you have any other thoughts about the game, and it’s players? Is your only read that Santy is town, and you’re not even considering my or any other slots with your own thoughts or analysis?
 
So do you have any other thoughts about the game, and it’s players? Is your only read that Santy is town, and you’re not even considering my or any other slots with your own thoughts or analysis?
What's your take on the other votes for you?
 
What's your take on the other votes for you?
MK is joking. Genny is voting early to test reaction, like I’ve seen her do before (although this is unconfirmed, just my interpretation).

Santy is the only one who’s thinking he has a wolf and who’s vote, wrong though it may be is “true/real”.
 
I googled them and uh. No.
Somehow quokkas remind me of Zenge. I swear I can see them going "mmmmmmmmmidwife."
Wut? But they're such happy little fückers!

what-is-quokka.jpg
 
Also it's gonna be hard to remember "Khepri", but will be easier to search for later on than "Seven" at least.
 
Hey y’all! I’m having a migraine and forgot the game had started!
I also don’t particularly like the votes on Zenge but I can see how some of his posts would be sus to ppl who haven’t played much with him. I personally haven’t gotten any red flags from his posts.
ClemJ’s jokiness about being a wolf and jumping on Zenge’s vote, I feel less good about.
Explain Zenge to me, when you have a moment.
 
Explain Zenge to me, when you have a moment.
This is just my personal take but Zenge always comes off a bit cryptic to me. Like he’s said things that have felt like pocketing, or he’s made bold claims (once he hard claimed seer on his entrance post). He can be jokey but also analytical and loves to bluff or test reactions. He tends to also defend players he feels he can read well. In all these cases he was village; the one time I played with wolf!Zenge I was a nooby noob and did not pick up on it at all.

I’m not saying he’s lock village here, but his first few posts feel like typical Zenge vibe to me.

Also last time I played, a similar “mostly joke” wagon was started on D1 and he ended up being misyoten.
 
Zenge

p#6 is NAI, knowing that it is a joke. I like that Santy found it suspicious though as it's the same sort of thing I look for.
p#9 is town indicative I think. I think a wolf here with this kind of post would angle it more toward the fact that no one else was posting (I've seen wolves open in such a way a few times), but the center of gravity in Zenge's post is on himself. Like it doesn't have that forced pro-towny tone wolves have.
p#26 p#29 and p#31 do have an off vibe, but I'm not sure if they are off because of Zenge or Clem. But Zenge's tone here is different than his tone in his posts addressed toward others so far. I could see this interaction as either w/w or t who has more insight on Clem than me from previous meta, and thus genuinely finds Clem's opening suspicious. I will circle back to which way I lean after I read through Clem's posts.
p#61 this is another notable interaction. Lawpy is the first player Zenge has asked a question of. Why is Zenge interested in Lawpy's reads in particular at this time? @Zenge
p#75 Zenge asks AM about Lawpy. Is Zenge gearing up to push Lawpy. Let us see.
p#116 I find to be very town indicative. It makes a clarification that does not necessarily benefit wolf Zenge. Santy (I think) said that this could be wolf Zenge trying to tie himself to a towny, but I don't think so. It moreso looks unpairing in Zenge flipped wolf so I don't think w!Zenge makes that post in v!mkg world. Further, I don't think w!Zenge would feel the need to dismantle Santy's post unpairing he and his partner, so I don't think it's w!Zenge in a w!mkg world either. Hence, I think the post just comes from town.

I'm stopping the ISO here. I will do Clem and Lawpy next.
 
Oh, whoops. Is there a quick way to link posts by number?
 
Oh, whoops. Is there a quick way to link posts by number?
Unfortunately, the best way is to quote them. You can mass-quote and then insert, that's how we tend to iso here.
 
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Why is Zenge interested in Lawpy's reads in particular at this time? @Zenge
Not sure if you saw my response to Santy about this but basically, Lawpy specifically said MK was on his "dart board". From experience with Lawpy, his dart board usually includes a couple names, and since he only voted for MK, without mentioning the other names, I was curious to see who else was on his "dart board" who he wasn't voting for.
 
@Truenamer

I'd be interested in hearing more about your reasoning for the Santy vote
 
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