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PippyPony said:
Lest you forget, @WildZoo -- you are still on that "lynch before end game" list as well.

Thought it was kinda weird you stayed off of youngkal yesterday and I'm still seeing a lot of mechanics posts from you.

You & cray are probably in the same spot in my list now that I think about it: very very slight village as of now, but lynch in a couple turns if additional wolves have not been found.
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Not forgetting pip, you remind me like 5 times a day
 
I'm squinting at Weim a bit still because she presumably affiliation seered me and still felt the need to open a PM with me the next day to question me further.

I know I make some people nervous these days, but it seems like kinda a waste to go back over the same territory with a PM after already using an item on me. And she was acting all suspicious @ the beginning.

And -- it is slightly weird to me that dubz jumped to tracking. Could be a valid interpretation I guess, but almost felt like she had discussed it with Weim.

I'd also like to know who has been talking to who on which days.
 
PippyPony said:
And -- it is slightly weird to me that dubz jumped to tracking. Could be a valid interpretation I guess, but almost felt like she had discussed it with Weim.
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Weim also asked me, on thread, how I had come to that conclusion. I've talked to no one but the mods. RM said he liked me :naughty:

Also, if what weim posted is what her result was, I'm not surprised she didn't think it was enough to clear you. It's not like it outright says "Pip is village"
 
WildZoo said:
Also, if what weim posted is what her result was, I'm not surprised she didn't think it was enough to clear you. It's not like it outright says "Pip is village"
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No, I suppose not, but I sincerely hope a PM conversation with me would not be considered a better indicator of villageryness :laugh:
 
PippyPony said:
I'm mostly reminding others, because people somehow magically forget to lynch you when I'm dead.
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You do realize that you claiming I should be lynched every game doesn't actually mean it's true, right? 😉 If I were lynched every time you thought I should have been I'm perty sure that would be an additional...5? or so? Village lynches. And one wolf lynch.

I know I play along and laugh and whatever but it does get a little exhausting when it's every. Single. Game.
 
PippyPony said:
I dunno.

I mean, I kinda know. But uggghhh I am about to go to bed so I don't know if I have the energy for that fight right now.

Tl;Dr: I feel like she's been even more erratic than usual.

Details:
Her actual reads have felt ok, but her votes have not matched up well. Has swung pretty widely on a lot of her reads, while kind of following others' logic more than usual.

I am sketched by the selective edge to the teaching: didn't she say she was going to help Stella? But most of her instruction posts have been aimed at Lawper and she largely ignored Stella until tonight.

I'm probably still netting village on her but it's a very, very, very slight lean.
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All of your points are spot on.

I haven't gotten good sleep for the last 3 days or so. I'm definitely ragged. But I know that has no bearing on the game, but what am I supposed to say when someone says, "why are you stupider than normal stupid for you?" I go with the truth.

So that's why some fight is out of me. Interesting that people are reading me as less fired up. I've played enough WW in a row now not to fear death like I used to, and in general mellow as a villager. I only wolfed once and it felt like living with a stick shoved right up my ass for days I was wound so tight. By comparison being a villager feels fancy free now.

There *was* a selective edge to the teaching. My relationship to Lawper isn't legendary but it isn't exactly SDN stealth. Stella is my friend from outside SDN and was dragged here to learn to play with me.

But given what a noob handicap she seems to have, did she really need the stain of my dubious association??? I thought it best to avoid direct interaction with her and just play hard and give the thread all I have in an attempt to give her fodder to analyze or interact with. I defended her where I thought it was fair to defend her as her lynch for scared noobiness loomed large. Lawper, I just treated like Lawper. I even worried for him given that I've mentioned being partial to him.

I feel OK about my reads. But, I don't feel good about the votes. MA vote rationale sounded like a great vote on paper out of the gate to me. Before bed it seemed a lot weaker, but as I said, I didn't have much else and without better, I stick to votes, especially D1 votes that might have even a scrap of logic. I woke up to YK dead. Coop was my next choice from a gut feel.

The switch to Ny, whether you think that's good or bad, I think I've explained and it's clear where that came from. That's where I think you could say the voting history is not matching up.

Yes, I have done more logic-following this game as I have been more open about agreeing with people. Often I avoid open agreement to avoid looking wolfy and avoid tainting a good opinion with my sketch factor. I've done less avoidance this game to provide educational fodder, and I also give less fraks as I've said. I think it's fair to say I've made lots of "original" (is that the word for what I add?) Cray contributions.

I need sleep to tackle Capri and where the rest of this falls into place.
 
PippyPony said:
I'm squinting at Weim a bit still because she presumably affiliation seered me and still felt the need to open a PM with me the next day to question me further.

I know I make some people nervous these days, but it seems like kinda a waste to go back over the same territory with a PM after already using an item on me. And she was acting all suspicious @ the beginning.

And -- it is slightly weird to me that dubz jumped to tracking. Could be a valid interpretation I guess, but almost felt like she had discussed it with Weim.

I'd also like to know who has been talking to who on which days.
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Thank you for blasting me on how absolutely idiotic I am that I literally thought the LSD result I got about you was giving me zero information. I apparently still have PTSD from paranoidly over-reading-into my ability results in telenovela, which in the end turned out to be absolutely meaningless.. and therefore under-read-into the LSD result about you.

It was also weird to me that WZ jumped to tracking, which was exactly why I asked about that conclusion. And I've talked to no one but mods and you all game so. meh.

WildZoo said:
Also, if what weim posted is what her result was, I'm not surprised she didn't think it was enough to clear you. It's not like it outright says "Pip is village"
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That was my result word for word. And thanks for this, it makes me feel marginally less like an idiot.
 
PippyPony said:
Just think of this as ancient Egypt and you're like my beloved cat friend who I want to have killed when I die so we can be bffs in the afterlife.
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Stop trying to butter me up with cat metaphors 😛
 
WeimMama said:
Thank you for blasting me on how absolutely idiotic I am that I literally thought the LSD result I got about you was giving me zero information.
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Ehh sorry? Did not mean to imply idiocy. I agree it was strange wording that could have multiple interpretations.

I was just saying I don't know that I personally would have focused in on one person 2 nights in a row regardless of the vagueness of the response. Personal style choice for item use, I guess.
 
Coopah said:
So does that mean you don't think Ny is genuine? Because literally everyone has said she is. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM HERE?
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I'll go back and reread. I felt like she was twisting my words, like, conjured outrage. Listen, I've gotten outraged, and *gotten others outraged* plenty of times. This is kinda like the time I was convinced Mel wasn't being sincere and he wasn't and was wolf.

However, I'm being swayed about Ny. The *real* issue why I wouldn't retract my vote once it was placed - was that she made that comment that made me feel guilty. I had to wonder if I was being emotionally played, and that made me wonder if it was all contrived.

I'm really tinfoil hat on all possible permutations of wolf-wolf, villager-wolf, wolf-villager, that could be with Capri and Ny.

When all of the above happens, sometimes the best thing to do is just stick with where you are. So that's why I stuck. Tomorrow is a new day to see where to go next.
 
PippyPony said:
I'm mostly reminding others, because people somehow magically forget to lynch you when I'm dead.
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Lol, no worries I got your back if I outlive you. I almost lynched village WZ and lost the game for village (but didn't!) in that one game, LIS had to talk me out of it. And that was because I decided that her seeming too village to be true was reason enough. I won't forget.
 
PippyPony said:
Would kinda like to know who has talked to who this game.

Just to get a handle on information transfer.

You all know who I have talked to, so would be nice if that was reciprocated 🙂
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Kyocera, N1, with Stella. I wanted us to have a chance to connect so I could help her. As you might have guessed, clueless noob.
 
Crayola227 said:
I'll go back and reread. I felt like she was twisting my words, like, conjured outrage. Listen, I've gotten outraged, and *gotten others outraged* plenty of times. This is kinda like the time I was convinced Mel wasn't being sincere and he wasn't and was wolf.

However, I'm being swayed about Ny. The *real* issue why I wouldn't retract my vote once it was placed - was that she made that comment that made me feel guilty. I had to wonder if I was being emotionally played, and that made me wonder if it was all contrived.

I'm really tinfoil hat on all possible permutations of wolf-wolf, villager-wolf, wolf-villager, that could be with Capri and Ny.

When all of the above happens, sometimes the best thing to do is just stick with where you are. So that's why I stuck. Tomorrow is a new day to see where to go next.
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I get outrage, and I get that she made you feel guilty, I'm just wondering why that made you think she was a wolf? Because this isn't about lynching people who bug you, it's about winning as a team. Rage can definitely blindside you to some people, I'm asking that we take a step back emotionally and consider the facts. Capri, whom I have my doubts about but that is an aside, told us she had mod info that Ny was good, and you choose to still keep your vote there. Why? Was it to save your friend? I'm seriously wondering at your logic here. Was it because she made you mad? It's not only you, I'm looking hard at the other people on her lynch. You just seem like the only person whom I can interrogate because I know something of their reasoning behind the vote. I'm not saying you're wolfy... yet, I just want to know your thought process here.
 
@allieh8607 why were you still on Ny? Why are you trying to subtly let the other suspicion slide by when at the beginning of the day there was a bandwagon forming. Have you addressed any of the other concerns? @LetItSnow @PippyPony What were your original concerns about Allie for the D1 lynch cycle. How do you feel about her now?
 
Coopah said:
In fact he's liked every post on this page, the hell? Has Cray hacked LIS's account?
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I was just wondering that. I've heard it said most silencing restrictions include likes too, but I think I've seen it where it didn't.

Hmm, well, if it's not a restriction to like all the posts, he can let us know by not liking one of them. Or maybe like in morse code??
 
Crayola227 said:
I was just wondering that. I've heard it said most silencing restrictions include likes too, but I think I've seen it where it didn't.

Hmm, well, if it's not a restriction to like all the posts, he can let us know by not liking one of them. Or maybe like in morse code??
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Well that proves that, LIS is silenced but doesn't need to like everything. Thanks, LIS you don't need to continue we get it 😉

And yeah it's a little weird to open your alerts and see 13 likes in a line from the same person
 
PippyPony said:
She bussed other wolves HEAVILY in the noob game.

Like, led the lynch on one of them. Without us coaching her to do so. And bussed at least one other wolf in that same game.

Don't discount it as a possibility.
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Yes, But it's not like YK was super close to going down - she only had 2 votes on her. And with only probably 3 wolves in this game, the wolves wouldn't be so quick to bus D1. Like she could still be a wolf who did that, but probably less likely.
 
WildZoo said:
My point earlier was kal wasn't exactly doing anything to show she would be able to carry herself out of a lynch and not continue to be suspicious the next day (and the next and the next until lynching occurred). That woof was ripe for bussing. I'm not gonna eat my hat about it but I'd honestly be surprised if there wasn't a single wolf on that lynch.

Also don't forget capri was in a spot where he still had a joke vote sitting on pip and pip had just called him out about it. I'm thinking through the possibilities of what he could have done in that situation and most of them lead to badness/increased suspicion for a wolfy capri.
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Yeah but this is a small game.. how many wolves do you think there are. LIS would bus, but probably not start a bus with a small wolf team unless he didn't realize he was a wolf. Pippy is probably cocky about her *almost* two wolf sweeps of recent that she would defend a fellow wolf over bussing them. As I said, capri probably wouldn't risk breaking the tie to a wolf if it's a 3 wolf team. If it's a 4 wolf team, then maybe. But that is a pretty high wolf:village ratio imo. I'm guessing none of the wolves were on the YK lynch.
 
Crayola227 said:
Netflix and chill with Pippy gave you an STD that gives you green discharge. Between that and the Wizard of Oz or Hulk imagery, guessing there is a risk of conversion somewhere in this story.
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Wait how did you get conversion out of this??

Lawper said:
Sorry everyone for my lack of activity. Was busy with work much of the day and unfortunately fell sick in the same day. I'll be alright soon, but I wanted to share my thoughts on the game.

Regarding youngkal, I mentioned my thoughts regarding the initial votes on her as I thought her posts were joking and wasn't sure whether the votes were pressure.

However, when youngkal began to contribute, I noticed her posts were wolfy. Especially this post:



Sorry, but going after Pippy for bad reasons and throwing shade at others is a noob wolf move. youngkal's posts continue to get worse and her interactions with Pippy show that she basically contradicted herself in the process and ultimately got lynched for it.

Also note the following vote patterns by youngkal before being lynched:


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It looks like youngkal was trying to get LIS lynched in an act of self-preservation.

Basically, from the youngkal events, I doubt Pippy and LIS are wolves, since it doesn't make much sense to me. Pippy pointed out flaws and contradictions in youngkal's reasoning. And youngkal tried to go after LIS before dying, and it would be a pretty strong bussing attempt for one wolf to go after another like that, which seems unlikely to me.

Regarding Mixy's death, the wolves probably just killed her for cementing youngkal's lynch by adding a vote that couldn't be easily overcome, since it would require 5 votes on another player to save youngkal assuming no one in youngkal's wagon changed their votes.

I'll respond to D2 events in following posts.
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So you are now saying you didn't trust YK? You didn't even vote for her, did you?
 
WeimMama said:
Thank you for blasting me on how absolutely idiotic I am that I literally thought the LSD result I got about you was giving me zero information. I apparently still have PTSD from paranoidly over-reading-into my ability results in telenovela, which in the end turned out to be absolutely meaningless.. and therefore under-read-into the LSD result about you.
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This is the first thing I've found villagery about you.. But could still do this as a wolf...
 
Yeah coop's recent posts have seemed more village. Still in my neutral category at this point though.
 
And now for the KTSM morning news.

"Strangely enough, there were no deaths to report last night. Perhaps LeMastitisNow is lying low? We did, however, receive details regarding a missing person, but, due to concern for the victim's safety, we will be releasing details *ONLY* as advised by law enforcement.

In other news, the downtown clinic has plenty of openings for those interested in seeking an alternative lifestyle. And, yes, this is a shameless plug.

Stay safe out there! KayD out."

It is now Day 4. Lynch will close at 9 pm Central/10 pm Eastern/7 pm Pacific.

There are 12 players remaining.

Roster:
1. @Crayola227
3. @Lawper
4. @allieh8607
5. @WildZoo
6. @genny
8. @LetItSnow
9. @WeimMama
10. @PippyPony
12. @SnowshoeDog143
13. @nyanko
14. @capri1722
15. @Coopah

NPC: @Mad Jack

Dead: @Animal Midwife (Vanillager)
Dead: @youngkal (Wolf)
Dead: @MixedAnimals77 (Vanillager)
Dead: @Stella Mudd (Vanillager)
 
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